I'll just ask this here, because I don't know where

I would posit Captain America's retardation in Generation Kill.

>>34017071
You have the right to refuse unlawful orders but you better be damn sure you are in the right and can prove it.

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>He was dumb enough to go enlisted
If an officer simply doesn't like you, its fairly easy to find a way to fuck you under Article 89 and then you have a criminal record for the rest of your life.

Enjoy.

>>34017105
>damn sure
Even then, you will be inconvenienced for a very long time and you will be speaking to JAG for a very long time.

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SNCOs carry more respect than Senior Officers so a salty Sgt or above would slap the shit out of them.
If you get a retarded order from an officer you either chin it off completely or give your closest SNCO a glance before proceeding.

>>34017124
You are full of shit. A SFC is not going to go to a "senior officer" and get in to a dick measuring contest with them. There are plenty of infantry officers who would love to skull fuck you given the chance.

That being said you may be referring to a CSM vs butter bar but i've seen plenty of LTCs who I though would be pencil pushers who wanted to be boots no the ground every chance they got.

So no, Senior NCOs don't always carry more respect and frankly most of them are hardly breaking functionally retarded. Most of the time Senior NCOs are people who needed an extra daddy figure through life thus the reason many of the good E5/E6s GTFO and do something with their lives.

>>34017071
this reminds me of ol' b&e. he wasn't an officer, but sure as shit got away with it. true story too.
>be csm dickcheese
>former ranger from 1st batt
>assigned to a big army light infantry unit
>walk out of battalion one day
>decide to check out the soldiers' barracks
>see an open window on first floor
>*instant hatred*
>time to go full retard
>climb through window
>no joe, no problem
>find an ipad
>*gibsme dat*
>open room door
>see roommate is still in barracks
>"what are you doing specialist?"
>roommate has valid excuse
>"well if you see your battle buddy tell him i was in his room."
>"and if he should come find me a s a p!"
>leave the suite through the hallway door.
>walk down the barracks hallway
>duty soldiers see me
>call at ease
>"you need to do a police call right now."
>"inspect the barracks for any security issues."
>"and if you see corporal so-and-so, let him know i need to see him asap."
>flash the ipad and give duty joes a nod
>leave the barracks and go back to work
>wondering when corporal so-and-so is gonna show up
>lieutenant jerkoff says an mp patrol car is here
>wonder what that might be about
>an mp questions me about corporal so-and-so's room
>i tell him everything
>they ask if i have his ipad
>i say yes
>instantly cuff me and take me to mp station
fucker refused to give the ipad back. would only give it back after he learned he'd spend the night in lockup. corporal so-and-so got instantly demoted for conduct unbecoming of an nco after calling the mp's. never got his stripes back. csm dickcheese is working on his 30 year mark.

>>34018199
>hardly breaking functionally retarded
my old psg word for word. holy shit that man had issues.

>>34018258
What a piece of shit

>>34017115
>very easy

No.

We had a fucked up captain and company first sergeant. Once a dude they were picking on for weeks for no particular reason muttered the words "request mast" (idk what they call it in the army) all faggotry ceased that instant. As long as you have witnesses, more importantly witnesses that are sergeant and above they're fucked.

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>>34018258
Was that supposed to be a greentext?

>>34017071
What would probably happen is that the highest ranking NCO would take charge and proceed to lead everyone in combat while the rest of the bunch politely ignores the boot-ass Officer freaking out.

>>34018258
how is that conduct unbecoming of an NCO?

He reported theft.

If he actually fought it he would have been ok.

Base doesn't have a legal section for no reason.

>>34018258
I'm either retarded or this was confusing as fuck to read. Also, I wish Captcha would stop telling me to identify gas stations.

>>34020317
Its both, and those gas stations you're identifying will be used to replace your taxi job.

>>34017071
As mentioned earlier in the thread, unlawful orders not only can be refused, one has a duty to refuse them.


Remember, every task you are told to do by a higher ranking person in the us military becomes law that you must follow if it a legal order. For those wondering how hard it wojld be to tell the difference vetween a lwful and unlawful order, in short It is obvious if you are told to do something illegal.

>>34020257
he fought it, but apparently he was "ordered" to go see the smaj. so instead of seeing the smaj he called the mp's, which killed him. just goes to show if you're wrong but have a shit ton of time in, you're right.

>>34020196
Requesting mast is the usmc gift to the enlisted men, can mention two stories in particular.

One of the two stories a uva almost got involved.

>>34018258
This is the longest and most confusing story I've ever read.