Post the most insane Cold War thing you know of. Hard mode:

>>34007788
"Dead Hand" is pretty interesting. I can't say I know too much about it, though.

>>34007788
Why would the CIA fund the modern art movement? Seems like it backfired considering the extreme leftist culturally suicidal attitudes that the Wests art culture has.

>>34007825
>Why would the CIA fund the modern art movement?

To troll the soviet union, basically.

It was a "Look at how advanced and cultured we are with our avant garde abstract art, compared to those retarded socialist realism "artists" in the combloc" kind of thing

>>34007825
Isn't that the purpose? To destroy the classical and orthodox arts of the Commie states since they're required for their propaganda artists?

>>34007788

>No Project Pluto

Well there goes all the fun.

I vote for Acoustic Kitty.

>>34007825
To give the middle finger to authoritarian dickwads like you by showing off that America has totally free expression, and the people can paint whatever the hell they want without it having to be approved.

Get fucked, commie.

>>34007959

You fell for the cool aid. There's a difference between freedom and insanity.

For instance beautiful works of art like classical paintings are amazing. They take time and patience to make. Only the greatest artists can make those.

Then special snowflakes like yourself who could never come close to that, decided that since you could never come close to achieving those standards of beauty, then your talentless ass was going to create a whole new worthless line of "art" where everyone is a winner yaiii.

And then you force that disgusting shit on the rest of humanity and have the audacity to call others communists.

>>34007993
You really don't understand what freedom is, do you comrade? See in free republics we like to allow people to express themselves, even if it looks like dogshit or we don't agree with the message. Because you see comrade, in a free society both shit "degenerate" modern art and beautiful traditionalist art can exist at the same time. From your backward freedom hating retardation and your reddit spacing, I think you need to go back to /r/the_donald

Would MK-Ultra qualify?

>>34007825

Here's a great write-up of the CIA's involvement.

TL;DR it was to show how constrained the (highly propagandistic) soviet realisim style of art was, and make people question how representative of reality it was.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

>>34007788
>Post the most insane Cold War thing you know of.
Does communism count?

Actually the technology that came from the Strategic Defense Initiative is still out there in some form or another and sort of proves that if you really dump fantastically insane amounts of cash into a 'thing', you really can make the future.

>>34008059

I've never been on Reddit but it's obvious you have. You're free to be a disgusting degenerate no one is preventing you from expressing your low I.Q., your lack of talent, or degeneracy. That's the beauty of America.

What you don't seem to get though, is that communists like you want to force your lower form of life/intellect as the new norm.

the one where we tried to nuke the moon and aliens vaporized the nuke when it entered space

747 turned into a cruise missile truck. carrying dozens of cruise missiles internally on rotary racks.

Concorde variant that is a nuclear cruise missile platform. Fly over the Nordic countries at Mach 2, launch, and boogie back home.

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>>34007788
I liked the one with the nuclear reactor powered bomber that would endlessly circle the northpole in case it needed to nuke Russia.

Also that cannon that fired nuclear warheads.

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Project Orion, a spaceship powered by nuclear bombs.

Legend has it that Curtis Lemay himself approved plans for a massive "battleship" version before the project was cancelled.

Several tests with models using conventional explosives were conducted, and results were favorable.

https://youtu.be/Q8Sv5y6iHUM

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>>34008198
>muh degeneracy
he whines as he posts on a website for people who jack off to cartoons.

On the topic of the thread, there were a bunch of pretty wacky VTOL proposals in the '50s.

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>>34007788
Project Pluto and it super sonic low altitude missile or SLAM
Nuclear powered ramjet rocket that would stay up and gliding over the pacific or Arctic for months at a time carrying 15 750 kiloton bombs.

>>34008112
This doesn't make sense, because, as the article said, most Americans disliked modern art bc it sucked fat dick, and the only reason they would dislike commie art is because its commie shit, but objectively, the concrete and steel monolithic art of the commies is objectively better by far. If anything, it was a communist cultural subversion to destroy american art, which worked way well. Have you been to lacma? it's fucked.

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>Nobody has mentioned the motherfucking Lockheed CL-1201
It's features include:
-support facilities for 22 fighters
-thrust is supplied by four turbofans the size of a medium-sized aircraft
-storage space for a couple hundred soldiers and their own related logistics.
-above 16000ft, switches to nuclear power

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>>34008307
Anon, you don't get it. It's not powered by nuclear bombs, they invented fucking /nuclear shaped charges/ for use with it.

>>34008198
Shoo, back to where you came from

The CIA once spent $20 million on a cat with an implanted microphone. On it's first mission it immediately ran into traffic and was killed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_Kitty

>>34009092
should have asked one of the girls in the secretary pool about cats. anyone that is a cat owner, would tell them that cats are near impossible to train.

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>no mention of chicken-powered anti-commie nuclear mines
>people thought it was an april fool's day joke when files were declassified

this fucking thing

>Hey guys, what if we took the AIM-9... and stuck a nuke on the end! You could use it to blow up LOTS of enemy fighters at once!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamondback_(missile)

>>34008441
I'm a fucking child, but the thought of a dozen fws standing on end with an announcement like "erected for takeoff" makes me giggle like an idiot

>>34009145
pigeon guided anti ship bombs/missiles were developed during ww2 by the americans.

they worked really well in simulation, but cancelled because it was too absurd.

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>>34008971
>external tactical fighters

they were really planning on putting a bunch of sabres on the wing pylons

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>>34009231
>sabres
Don't be ridiculous. This is the space age - we're using Starfighters.

>>34007993
Post your art then fag

>>34007959
Go to an art college and paint some nigger being put through a blender and tell me how it goes.

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>>34008246
>>34008307
>>34008971
>>34008978
>>34009181

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>>34008490

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>SDI program sounds scary
>you know what would be a good idea to counter that ivan? Shoot the SDI sattelites down with a fuckhuge orbital laser
>FUND IT

they then proceeded to build a test platform that may or may not have had the 1MW laser and launched it with the 3rd biggest rocket platform mankind has ever come up with (Energija, the Saturn V and N1 being the other two). Because it was so fuckhuge and the energija had no payload fairing they had to strap it to the side, with engines pointing retrograde. Everything proceeded as planned but the payload didn't spin around 180° after decoupling from the central stage, preventing it from reaching orbital velocity. It burned up and crashed somewhere into the pacific.

>>34007788
SLAM? NEPA/ANP?
those are fun

Another funny soviet cold war space story is their use of nuclear reactors (not RTGs, fission reactors) for their RORSAT radar sea reconaissance sattelites. Because they were flying so low the drag of solar panels would have reduced their service live to much, so they went for BUK reactors (they later developed TOPAZ and TOPAZ II ones). The US only tested one fission reactor in space because it was deemed an unnecessary risk, no such thing in soviet russia. Suprisingly no core crashed into earth during launch or due to orbital decay (yet), the reactor cores were all ejected to safe parking orbits and are still circling earth. The reactor coolant (NaK eutecticum) however was vented into space. The approximately 130kg of it, dissipated as small droplets, make up a significant part of space debris that is giving people a headache today.

>>34009065
>>34008441
fuck off atifa faggots

>>34007993
t. Kant

>>34008059
People like you are the reason the US government needs to collapse.

CIA cock suckers are pretty much communist in a different form.

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>we shouldn't try to build a supersonic prop plane, sounds like a bad idea
>y tho?

>>34009092
So, 50 yrs later, the fmr director revealed that the cat actually went to live on a farm. (Or was it The Farm?) Traffic accident was a total cover story. Classified Kitties FTW.

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stop bitching about philosophy and post more insane cold war shit

>huge ground effect vehicle
>lets strap 6 AShM launchers to its back while we're at it

>>34007959
unessesary response to the post you responded to.

>>34008059
criticizing people's dumb shit doesn't mean you are not allowing it.

>>34009527
This might be the best thing I've read this week.

>>34009214
WW2 stuff allowed?

My favorite story are the bat bombs. Intended to fuck with the zipperheads wooden cities it was intended to strap small timed incendiary bombs to more than a thousand bats per cluster bomb (each bat had its own comfy segment in those), drop them over cities, have them hide in attics and whatnot and then start fires all over the city at the same time. During testing some bats escaped and set fire to large parts of the Carlsbad Army Airfield Auxiliary Air Base in New Mexico, that was the only thing they ever burned down. The project was moving to slowly and was cancelled, like some others, to focus on the quick race to fission weapons to end the war.

>>34009416
One burned up over canada.

I like the nuclear powered wiretap that was put into place by a submarine.

>>34009527
i feel like we should weaponize this somehow.

just imagine a police standoff. you evacuate the area and bring in the supersonic turbo prop on a stand. spin it up by remote and everyone in the area is incapacitated.

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>>34008059
Okay, someone wanna tell me what the fuck "reddit spacing" is? I've seen that mentioned before.

>>34009683
Double spacing. You're from reddit unless your posts are eyerape textwalls.

>>34009648
just read up on that. Compromised by an NSA guy that was "exceptionally bad at personal finance" for less than 70 thousand bucks. I'd have assumed that info on a project like this would be worth several orders of magnitude more.

>>34009717
Traitors typically have no idea how underpaid they are. Aldritch Ames comes to mind.

>>34009735
instead of selling secrets like that for pocket change i'd rather start cooking drugs if i had no moral backbone and a dire need for money, at least i wouldn't face live in prison or execution for that. Selling your country(men) for ideological reasons or a shitload of cash, i can undertstand that to some degree. But for the price of a modest car?

>>34007825
Western art culture was infiltrated by the Soviets back in the 50s. McCarthy did nothing wrong.

>>34009527
This is so good

>>34008971
That's some Ace combat tier shit

>>34009181
>putting a nuclear warhead on a heater
enjoy blowing up your own plane

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>>34009145
"It does seem like an April Fool but it most certainly is not. The Civil Service does not do jokes"

PEK PEK PEK PEK PEK

>>34009279
If you say its representative of how blacks get fucked daily by racism than you'd be golden.

Its all about marketing dumbass.

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>>34007788
Ithacus SSTO. A massive single stage to orbit rocket that would have been used, among other things, to ferry troops to Vietnam.

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US Army moonbase plans

>1964: 40 Saturn launches.
>January 1965: Cargo delivery to the moon would begin.
>April 1965: The first manned landing by two men. The build-up and construction phase would continue without interruption until the outpost was ready.
>November 1966: Outpost manned by a task force of 12 men.
>This program required a total of 61 Saturn I and 88 Saturn II launches up to November 1966. During this period the rockets would transport some 220 tonnes of useful cargo to the Moon
>December 1966 through 1967: First operational year of the lunar outpost, with a total of 64 launches scheduled. These would result in an additional 120 tons of useful cargo.

>Two nuclear reactors would be located in pits to provide shielding and provide power for the operation of the preliminary quarters and for the equipment used in the construction of the permanent facility. Empty cargo and propellant containers would be assembled and used for storage of bulk supplies, weapons, and life essentials.

>The base would be defended against Soviet overland attack by man-fired weapons:
>Unguided Davy Crockett rockets with low-yield nuclear warheads
>Conventional Claymore mines modified to puncture pressure suits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Horizon

>>34009702
this is a newfag meme

>>34009416
I can't find the specific article but I recall hearing that Russia did research into nuclear gas thermal rocket engines. One possible variant included a spin stabilized radioactive core that could only operate properly if it was kept spinning. If it stopped for any reason your spaceship would suffer an instant and impressive catastrophic failure.

>>34010099
>I'll shit fury you're dead kiddo

>>34010078
>ywn live in a world of army moonbases, NASA exploring Jupiter in 1976 with Orion, and retro futuristic nuclear powered cars

What's the point?

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>>34010078
Well that's just about the most fucking incredible thing I've ever heard. "Where were you stationed when the war broke out?" "The moon."

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>>34007788
>ywn be so mad that you use your ship like a trireme

>Soviet frigate intentionally collides with USS Yorktown to push it into international waters 1988

>>34008307
Project Orion needs more recognition.
If it worked, and it seems very likely that it would, it would have been very very effective.

The biggest issue with space travel today is that it takes a fucking lot of effort to get a little bit of mass into orbit. But with Orion, you can get some real heavy shit up their relatively easy.
And that's not even mentioning the speeds you can get going with a spaceship propelled by Orion.

The craziest thing is that Orion didn't need a breakthrough to work. We had everything we needed to try it out. And we still do

>>34010178
And we never will. Goddammit. The Orion drive remains the one plausible way to get to the outer solar system

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>>34010165
>ywn shoot down a biplane w/ an AK in back of a huey

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>>34007993

>>34010233
>ywn destroy jets with a biplane

>>34010224
Fucking greens, I swear.

>>34010224
Never is a long time
Maybe in a hundred years or so, once the Cold War isn't as fresh in people's minds, nations will accept the use of nuclear testing again.

>>34009527
>a plane so loud that it literally gave people seizures
>constant VISIBLE sonic booms

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>>34007788

"Star Wars." Reagan's plan to shoot down Russian missiles in space.

Would have cost billions of dollars, so obviously Congress vetoed that shit.

>>34010330
Being an aerospace engineer in the mid to late 40s to early 50s must have been amazing. All the funding you could wish for to actually put shit that was as crazy as these late German plane designs together. With the XF84 they probably knew that it would never work out but thought along the lines of "what the heck, they're funding it, let's see how ridiculous it gets".

I think and hope that many scientists and engineers that were responsible for incredibly cruel, groundbreaking, laughable or devastatingly effective weapon systems just wanted to satisfy their naive joy of taking a concept and pushing it to the edge of what is possible.

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>>34010372
the Soviets assumed that the US would make good on its promise of orbital weapons, so they designed an xboxhueg laser called Polyus and tried so send it into space so they could fry burger satellites with it. The launch failed, so Polyus never became operational for obvious reasons.

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>project orion

Ever heard of the Doomsday Orion design? No guns, no casaba howitzer launchers, no crew...just one remotely activated kamikaze nuke large enough to fry all of Russia.

Yield estimates vary from 8-12 to 50 gigatons.

>>34010419
>>34009341
Kinda sad, they got so close. I bet the guy that fucked up the reorientation sequence of the payload is self-flaggilatinf to this day, if his engineering colleagues didn't beat him to death with his keyboard. Surely one of the most expensive software errors in history.

>>34010433
They probably would've countered that one with the nuclear 50 ton relativistic speed copper EFP someone mentioned in one of these threads. Anyone have the screenshot/pasta? Saw it this week I think.

>>34010372
Regan looks like a TV president. It's been so long since his term that he's fallen into myth. (or maybe that's why he was elected) He looks like a television lead with old-man makeup on.

I can't put my finger on who he looks like though. Old man colbert maybe.

>>34010064
>Carrier-to-orbit-to-theater in one trip
That's so retarded the Space Marines would deep six it for being a waste of resources. Why can't we live in that world?

there some shit out there that we still don't know much about


ever read about the salt mine research? No, of course you haven't. Real Cave Johnson stuff, you know.

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Imagine how much more advanced we would be if the Cold War never ended (but never erupted into WW3).

We'd be advanced as fuck and still hate commie fucks

Kill me....

>>34009527
holy shit that's beautiful

>>34007788
Gaybomb

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>he thinks week old used tampons in an exhibit is art

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>>34008971
each of it's main engines is wider than a medium jet transport like a c-17

>>34010698
Lmao faggot we won the cold war why are you upset?

>>34010748

>we won the cold war

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqHv0xgOlc

You naive fool

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>>34010748
>we won

>>34010713
>he thinks a picture of some dead chick from hundreds of years ago is art

>>34010772
>>34010780
Antifa fuck off

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>>34009341
>>34010419
>>34010449


Well, there's lot of theories about Polyus.

One the Launch was in fact a sucess, and USA and URSS strike a deal and ended militarization of space, russians later burned him into Orbit for good.
Second one is that Launch was saboted by US Government.
And the Third one that myself belive is true, that both American and Soviet Space Militarization was pure bluff, and Soyus was just a empty metal shell.

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>>34010790
>point out the obvious fact we're fucked in the ass by debt caused by kike bankers makes me antifa

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Do all the attempts at creating a single-stage-to-orbit orbital spaceplane count?

Attempt #1: X-20, result: never built

Attempt #2: NF-104a, result: half-successful (suborbital, used as a trainer)

Attempt #3: Space Transportation System, result: half-successful (not an SSTO)

Attempt #4: X-30, result: terminated due to budget cuts

Attempt #5: X-33, result: scrapped after fuel tank ruptured during testing

Attempt #6: X-51, result: successful but only used for missiles

And now the gov't is going at it again with the XS-1.

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>>34007900
>$20 million project to spy on enemy agents with a cat
>cat gets run over by car on first deployment
Amazing

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>>34010160

>ywn be an old veteran in a bar circa. 1983 telling people about the war in '69 and about how Kremlin Joe beseiged your moonbase until you gave him a taste of your Davy Crockett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skiNUaOS3mg

>>34010415
My grandfather turned down a chance to design airplanes after the Korean War. No wonder he ended up an alcoholic.

>>34010472
You can't aim those. They are wells with a nuke at the bottom.

>>34010415

The Golden Age of Scientific Discovery is long over friendo. Shame

>>34010995
Yeah, one the one hand its nice to reap the benefits but if you want to go into research it's only incremental improvements nowadays, unless you're some one in dozens of millions genius. The times were the government set up labs with your average engineers that pushed rocket fuel or metallurgy research forward with little more than trial and error must've been nice and incredibly satisfying for the people working there.

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I want a game where all of this crazy Cold War shit came to fruition in the 60/70's.
>Fighting reds on the moon equipped with the cutting-edge M14.
>National Guard troops with M1s and bazookas holding off soviet paratroopers and glider tanks.
>Counter attacks into the USSR involve deploying from CL-201 with B-36s overhead and TV-8s rumbling by
>Little partisans Carrie and Jimmy with daddy's old hunting rifles taking potshots at officers and commissars.
It could be cool.

>>34010433
>single stage Teller-Ulam hitting the gigaton range
yeah nah m8

The Orion-class Space Battleship looks pretty damn rad but sending that thing to space using nuke propulsion would blanket huge areas under EMPs.

>>34010433
Why has pulsed fission propulsion gotten no attention in the last few decades, when it's the obvious solution for getting large payloads into orbit at the start of the space industrial age?

Is it just "muh treaties" crap?

>>34011144
>get nuked and all other running servers get nuked by >>34010433

>>34011144
>USS Iowa provides fire support with nuclear shells

>>34011229
>Starts bright patriotic and spangley and optimistic
>Becomes 'war is hell' slogging in second half as the nukes touch down

>>34007788
Project "fuck the moon" A119. The idea was to detonate a warhead on the moon to see the damage, and to strongarm the Soviets by saying "Look what we can fuckwads" a la Hiroshima/Nagasaki. We settled on landing on the moon instead.

>>34009434
>not being a Nazi = being a commie
Are you fucking dense

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>>34011262
>not spelling out "fuck off commies" with nukes on the surface of the moon

>>34011163
>EMP
STFU and learn high energy physics. It wouldn't be that big of a deal.

>>34010787
>>34010713
>he thinks

I never was able to verify if it was true or not, but the story goes like this:
>KGB is too good at prosecuting disdidents, theyre still out there but they arent doing anything to target themselves
>so they set up anonymous complaint departments
>person enters a room where there is a table, some pencils, and paper
>sit at the table and write your anonymous complaint, as long as you want it to be, then drop it in the slot
>next to the table was a mirror and behind it was an X-ray machine running full tilt.
>the idea was repeat users with long complaints would get cancer
>ended up not working because soviet citizens didnt trust their government enough to use the "complaint department"

>>34011289
Explain it to me like I'm five.

>>34011285
>the USA didn't make a massive American flag with a nuke pointed at a tiny hammer and sickle pointed in such a way on the moon's surface that it was clearly visible too every nation affected by the Warsaw pact
Why even live desu

>>34011222
Because its actually not very efficient. All it does is move a lot of mass, but not very well. It would have taken something like 300 detonations just to reach orbit.

If you can think of any plausible reason for detonating 300 nukes in your own atmosphere for any purpose other than warfare let me know.

>>34011413
giant middle finger to low background steel faggots

>>34007825
The replies of everyone else are part of it, but it was also because leftists intellectuals had the same nasty habit back when that they do today of declaring themselves commies. "Modern art" gave such people something to get into that seemed creative and subversive to the establishment that wasnt communism. It made russia look drab and uncreative dominated by "the man."

Modern art let liberals jerk eachother off over how subversive and edgy they were at "stickin it to the man" whilst actually accomplishing very little and infact unwittingly working for the man all along. It was also a part of an overall effort to turn the counter culture movement towards pusuing mindless idiotic consumerism and pleasure seeking instead of subverting government and culture.

>>34011368
EMP is when a magnetic pulse inducts a current in a metallic surface. In order for EMP to induct enough current on a surface it has to be both fuckhuge powerful and the surface has to be really big. (Were talking about a nuclear weapon only being able to induct like a millionth of a volt.)

Shit like powerlines would blow transformers because a millionth of a volt being generated per meter of surface area multiplied by tens of thousands of meters of powerlines adds up and fries trasformers.

Other than that nuclear generated EMP is pretty weak, and building more powerful nukes doesnt even work very well to modify the effect because nukes dont actually GENERATE EMP. They just fuck with the earths magnetic field and so a nuke EMP is based more off of how powerful earths magnetic field is than it is the nuclear weapons yield.

>be USSR
>have an embassy
>eventually figure out exactly who was an actual embassy worker and who were spies
>fire everyone BUT the spies
>spies suddenly have to run an embassy by themselves as to not arouse "suspicion" even though they knew they had been found out
>hilarity ensures as well trained spies have to do menial ambassadorial busywork to keep the embassy functioning

>>34011562
That sounds like a rob schnieder film

>>34011510
So basically the solution would be to launch the ship from a remote area in order to avoid damage to the electrical grid?

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>>34009181
nuclear-tipped AAMs were a thing for a while, not some rare prototype

Both Soviets and US had deployable models.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie

It was meant to destroy formations of bombers at long-range. The yield on the warheads were quite small so the fighter could get away in time.

>>34010419
"Congress is the greatest ally of the Soviet army" ~ Former Soviet KGB agent Vasili Mitrokhin

>>34011144
It's called Fallout

>>34011643
>has gay suits instead of cool ass nuclear tanks

>>34011395
We see the same side of the moon everywhere on earth, it doesn't need to "face" anywhere as long as it's on the half locked to our orbit.

>>34011643
But Fallout takes place afterward and is more a survival thing. It's not a commie vs USA war. Some of the shit in there is based on real stuff but not much.

>>34011584
>>34011584
No, the goal would be to not launch it at all and damage your entire country by dumping retarded amounts of fallout into the upper atmosphere where it could drift thousands of miles.

>>34011725
Fallout from fusion bombs is small when they aren't detonated in ground contact, and fallout created by ground contact detonations doesn't travel very far.

We detonated thousands of atmospheric weapons with essentially zero health effects for people who weren't in direct contact with the testing locations.

An Orion launch would be perfectly safe, though I don't think that we should launch from atmosphere with one anyways because we are about 30 years from being able to make low background steel again, and an Orion launch would push that back some.

No, we should use electromagnetic launching or laser and ballast boosting to reach orbit, chemical rockets to leave orbit, and Orion drive for interplanetary or interstellar work.

>>34011510
So close and yet so far.

First, an EMP induces a voltage in a conductive loop, not a surface. The larger the area the loop encloses, the greater the voltage spike. And it's generally more than a millionth of a volt per square meter of area. It's generally enough to cause transient spikes on integrated circuits. So it won't cause direct damage to most computers, but might make them crash because their internal state gets fucked up. But if the chips are at an angle to the blast. If a nuke detonates in the upper atmosphere directly above you, a phone on the table might crash while one in your pocket is fine because the chips in the phone on the table took the EMP directly while the one in your pocket received a much smaller spike proportional to the sine of the angle of attack.

Transformers are a high risk area, mostly because the power lines leading into them are massive loops. That means they have to deal with massive voltage spikes, which could damage substations and/or leak into lower level grids to fry some electronics directly hooked to wall sockets.

Last, EMP is does interact with the geomagnetic field, but that's a tertiary level thing. What happens is the gamma and x-ray burst from a nuke ionizes particles in the upper atmosphere, causing electrons to get knocked away at high speed. A moving charged particle radiates electromagnetic radiation proportional to its velocity, and those electrons are moving very fast. The electromagnetic spike they cause is EMP. Eventually, the earth's (very weak) magnetic field causes these particles to begin to spiral towards the north pole (which is technically the south pole, but that's a long physics lesson). In the spirals they make, more energy is radiated because they appear to be moving back and forth rapidly. But the effect is diminished because the electrons are all out of phase with one another so rather than a pulse, you get noise. This will effectively jam comms with satellites and low frequency radio.

>>34011790
TL;DR, EMP is primarily a function of the interaction of high energy radiation with the upper atmosphere, and causes problems with long loops of conductors.

>>34010780
obama

>>34011811
Much appreciated man, I knew a bit but clearly not the nitty gritty details.

Point is still the same though, EMP from nukes is a pretty small byproduct. Real EMP threat would be something solar on the level of the carrington event. (Massive solar EMP in victorian era fried the telegraph system and started thousands of fires). An even bigger event actually just barely missed us a few years ago. Came close enough to fry satellites and would have fistfucked our tech on a global level right back to the 18th century.

>>34011368
This
>>34011510
wasn't me, and he's mostly right, but he overstates certain factors and misses others. EMP isn't caused by the nuke fucking with the magnetic field, it's caused by radio frequency output of the bomb inducing current in wires the same way that an antenna receives a signal. The problem is that most nuclear weapons are going to be used down where they will interact with a lot of atmosphere, which reduces the amount of emitted radiation in the microwave bands and increases the amount of radiation in the infrared bands, and infrared radiation can't induce current in metal.

So to get strong EMP effect, you need a couple things. You need radio line of sight to the initiation, you need massive and long antennas, you need delicate electronic gear attached to those long antennas without surge voltage protectors, you need to detonate the nuke high enough that you don't lose most of your photon emission to the infrared and visibile spectra, and you need to detonate the nuke low enough that your radio and microwave emissions aren't ameliorated by the distance square law and earth's atmosphere.

Copper phone lines are the most vulnerable possible infrastructure, and represented the source of most of the "Starfish Prime" casualties, the next most vulnerable installations are electronics or lightbulbs on long runs of powerlines without any breakers or voltage steps anywhere (like out of date street lamp circuits). Third are transmitters or receivers with lengthy antennas and no surge protection (which are also important for lightning damage mitigation).

Things like cars, planes, tanks, ships, and battery powered microelectronics, are actually very resistant to EMP damage.

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>>34009840

>McCarthy did nothing wrong

This truth needs to be spread more

>>34007959
Just because you CAN shove spaghetti-ohs up your cunt and call it art, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

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Both of you faggots go to >>>/pol/ this thread is for experimental shit. To get things back on track T-12 Cloudmaker. Would it have worked had it been deployed in Korea of Vietnam?

This thread shall not perish from this Earth.

>>34009527
>This fucking plane
If I remember correctly, this had so many problems that it had an air turbine for backup power and it was used for almost every flight.
Also, the first test pilot said to the ground crew or the designer that "You aren't big enough and there aren't enough of you to make be get back in that thing".

>>34012166
I remember reading somewhere that the ground crews had issues with detached retinas as well as the brain damage induced siezures.

>>34010843
Northrop-Grumman now has posession of and the rights to one of the functioning emdrive prototypes that was built by a US citizen. I suspect we'll need to add that to the list soon.

>>34012291
Proof:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/63ad2u/announcement_of_who_has_my_1701a_emdrive/

>>34010078
you know, orion would have been literally perfect for that job

>>34010078
I wonder if this was the inspiration behind Battlezone
that game was fucking great

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>>34010415
Fun fact, the sr71 project began the same year the last P51 was retired from the military. (F51 at that point)
And as for the pushing concepts.... pic related. The early days of jet powered Vtol.

>>34011395
The US did plan to nuke the moon in an area where the explosion would be visible anywhere it was night. Basically the metaphorical equivalent of this flag thing and kind of like a bird threatening other birds to stay away.

>>34008307
>>34008978
And if you replace the tungsten with polystyrene, you get a beam of hot plasma going at least 1Mm/s.

>>34007788
>ctrl+f
>no rods from gods

really /k/? Taking telephone poll sized depleted uranium rods and putting them in orbit, just to deorbit them to slam them into cities at crazy speeds? its the perfect weapon.

>>34012769
>depleted uranium
Fuck no. They were never depleted uranium. Those would burn up on entry. There's a reason why it's tungsten. It's also stupidly expensive and hardly accurate.

>>34011861
Yeah, it really annoys me when SciFi is going so well, and then mentions how a nuke's EMP knocks out a ship's electronics or something. In vacuum, if it's powerful enough to do that, it's powerful enough to damage the ship from direct effects.

>inb4 Chernobyl, Ukraine

>>34012833
GET OUT OF HERE, STALKER

>>34012767
>relativistic nuclear powered plasma cannons
>by the time you see it coming it's too late to dodge
That's fucking metal.

>>34012769
Except it's not. Leaving aside >>34012790 's correct assertion it wouldn't be depleted uranium (that stuff burns nice and hot) you get out of a kinetic weapon no more than what you put in. When an Abrams fires a Silver Bullet, it contains somewhat less kinetic energy than the propellant contained in chemical energy.

Unfortunately for the Rods from God concept, rockets are much less efficient. To move an object to orbit from just below orbit takes some amount of fuel. But you have to lift the object and that fuel to that point, which takes fuel which you have to get to just below that point which takes fuel and so on. Point is that the yield of the impact is a tiny fraction of the fuel you expended.

But the efficiency of the launch vehicle can't matter all that much, right? Well, maybe not. But you're still only talking about getting a rod up to speeds where it's kinetic energy is a couple of times its mass in TNT, max. And there's a limit to how much mass it's practical to launch at once, so you're looking at the equivalent of a 20 ton bomb at most (and that's probably optimistic).

So we can hit an enemy with the equivalent of a MOAB in a few minutes? Still nice, huh? Nope. Two problems: First, orbital mechanics means that projectile is coming in at a shallow angle. You can't just drop it right down. That would take a lot of fuel and nearly as long a burn as it took to get it into orbit. It would also use up most of the kinetic energy of the projectile. So it's only useful against flat terrain. And then impactors tend to act like bunker busters. They'll make nice little holes with a big dust plume and shake the ground a lot. That's about it. No massive explosion or sub-nuclear boom. Just a hypersonic crack, and a deep, narrow crater.

>>34009864
please stop trying to subvert /k/ with your nupol tactics that failed there. You have to go back.

>>34012791
Not to mention that nukes only have EMP via interactions with earths atmosphere. In a vaccume its just heat light gamma radiation and x-rays. And nuclear detonations dont propagate for shit in space.

>>34010472
Are you talking about the Russian nuclear cannon that was supposed to shoot copper faster than .1c to fight ayys?

>>34010472
>nuclear EFP

I need to know more.

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>>34013049
found it

>>34013091
>two times the speed of light

>>34013142
Retard

>>34012576
boi she T H I C C

>>34013142
>double digit percentage of c
>means v > .1c

Where the fuck did you get 2c from that image?

>>34013142
>double digit PERCENTAGE

>>34013149
>>34013165
>>34013194
no bully ;_;

>>34009565
ekranoplanes are pure

pure

>>34013091
imagine making a version of this that can be aimed
that would be the definition of meme cannon

>>34013091
It its simplest explanation, the soviets figured out how to fist-fuck an alien space ship by digging a hole. This is pure fuckin awesome!

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>>34009527

Arguably doesn't qualify as Cold War until you start reading into it more. If you want to go down the rabbit hole, there's days worth of reading about this and all the related stories and people on the internet.

https://www.wired.com/1993/01/inslaw/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inslaw

>>34009341
>It burned up and crashed somewhere into the pacific.

There was a lot of that going down in the CCCP.

>>34013330
Is earth considered to be middle east tier by ayy lmaos?

Is this why they've never made contact?

>we jihad now

>>34013382
>explorer glorsnark, your findings?
>space lord xixa, they.... they invented thermo nuclear weapons before they learned how to cure cancer.....
>what?
>they just really, REALLY like killing things.
>lets put up a 100 lightyear buffer zone around their planet and hope they kill themselves off before they discover spaceflight.
>they already have lord
>make it a 200 light year buffer zone.

>>34007788
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER

>>34007959
modern art is commie

>>34013420
Well I would have thought creating nuclear reactions would be easier than stopping random cells growing in the most complex things in the known universe.

I remember watching the TV show sworn to secrecy as a kid where the Soviet army proposed a "doomsday weapon" to Khrushchev.

Basically an unmanned ship filled with radioactive material would circle around the arctic endlessly, monitoring radiation levels in moscow. If it went above a certain level it'd detonate and spread the radioactive material into the atmosphere and create a nuclear winter.

Khrushchev thought it was crazy and killed the project before it made it past paper.

>>34008971
more info you cunt. Where are the other diagrams?

>>34013499
The idea is supposed to be that we prioritize killing others over curing disease.

>>34013513
Thats not how nuclear winter works. Nuclear winter is from dust and ash that gets kicked up into the atmosphere by the warhead impacts blocking out sunlight.

Its not even an agreed upon theory, many climatologists have made pretty good arguements that its bullshit or would only last for a season or two.

>>34010449
Actually that dubious honor goes to some mars probe that cost a billion and a half. Somebody wrote the software for metric but mission control was using imperial measurements.

So just because one guy wrote meters and the recieving party assumed yards a fucking decade of engineering and funding from multiple nations burned up in mar's atmosphere.

>>34013582
well tell that to the soviets

>>34013665
Oh wait, you can't.

>>34013582
>would only last for a season or two.
well that would be enough to kill billions
if you loose a good junk of theworld wide food production you will see a lot of people starving and even more die in the food wars

>>34012790
>>34012909
Ah shit. All the stories I've read hype it up to be this awesome nuclear sized explosion from orbit with little to no detection. Hurr durr I'm retarded, should've done more research

Also, totally forgot it was tungsten and pulled depleted uranium out of my ass

>>34013582
>>34013513

Careful with that nuclear winter talk lads. Else you'll summon the destroyer of worlds.

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What a 1GT "simulated" detonation on my hometown. For you Project Orion fans out there

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The US may of had the Soviet's beat in tech thanks to the free market and competition but the KGB completely out-fucking-skilled the CIA on the regular thanks to their absolute lack of due process and morals, even compared to the CIA.

And thanks to Soviet inner government surveillance it was almost impossible to infiltrate the KGB.

>>34014026
this
the official Soviet governmenet didnt give a shit about human rights so we onely can imagin what the KGB did

>>34010807

That beret is aesthetic as fuck. so is that camo pattern

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>>34011239

hnnnnnnnnng

>>34013091
The US made one. When we tested it we could. not. track. the. disk. calculations say it fucked off into space at a percentage of c.

>>34011771
Look up the rates of thyroid cancer among people in the mid west. The close you get to the nuclear testing fields, the worse it gets.

>>34014140
That was an unplanned sideproduct of an underground nuclear test though. Now imagine what would happen if you specifically designed something something to launch shit, using a bigger bomb.

>>34013375
Not really, their space program had its shit together

>>34013605
I'd have thought that this one was note expensive/wasted more ressources. I mean the launch platform alone had like three times the payload and an experimental orbital defense laser station probably isn't much cheaper to built than a mars probe either.

>>34011460
That is startlingly acute, actually. Well done anon. I'd suggest anyone in this thread who thinks that sounds interesting to watch this documentary. I'm not a shill, I think, but this is a hell of a piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aLQPNPlK5M

>>34007993
>"I don't understand modern art therefore it's stupid"
There's a difference between art and draughtsmanship. A copy of real life, with 'correct' colours and proportions, is not necessarily good art. A robot with a camera can take a photo and achieve a perfect depiction of a subject; so can person, with enough time and effort with a paintbrush. The difference is, the camera cannot distort and adapt and play with the image to convey emotions or a story. The big problem with the Communist system was that it controlled free will and thought; modern art defies these restrictions, so artists can express themselves whether the work looks 'nice' or not.

>>34011144
>I want a game where all of this crazy Cold War shit came to fruition in the 60/70's.

That's the entire premise behind Red Alert games.

>>34011144
I want the next Battlefield game to be based on real Cold War shit from the 60's or so. Like T-55s and M-60s duking it out, nuclear artillery and landmines, F-104s vs MiG-19s, unguided nuclear air to air missiles, M14, G3, FAL vs AK-47, even more tactical nuclear weapons, troops being deployed from ekranoplanes, and all of the crazy shit that was actually either in service or practicable in time of war in like 1973.

>>34011861

>An even bigger event actually just barely missed us a few years ago. Came close enough to fry satellites and would have fistfucked our tech on a global level right back to the 18th century.

Jesus Christ.

>>34014026

t h i c c

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>>34014459
> Battlefield Vietnam
> Battlefield Bad Company 2: Vietnam

They were pretty great especially with all the mods and you could select music in game even multiplayer and play it aint me from your bitchin huey or chinook or F-4 phantom.

Damn i feel old

Anybody know if the first bfv will work on win10

>>34013420
kek

>>34014455
Problem with Red Alert is that nearly none of the designs resemble real prototypes. Shit kind of went off the rails once they brought in time travel as as a plot point too.

>>34010224
Bullshit. We would defo use it if we had a safe reliable way to get all the initial mass out as far as, say the moon, BEFORE unleashig nuclear hellfire. Its the whole requirement of a land launch due to the sheer mass of the thing that id the problem

>>34013513
Fucking hell, this is probably the craziest thing I've read in this thread.

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>>34008971

>>34013091
Ayylmao IED

>>34008490
Dumbass

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>>34010091
It really isn't. Reddit has formatting rules for how you post. If you don't follow the rules your post get's deleted. Because of this Redditors are easy to spot because of their subconscious habit of formatting their posts like they're on Reddit. Hence; Reddit Spacing

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>>34010233
>Air America
Fuck yeah it is

>>34013436
It said it was classified, some what kind of things have they done with it

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>>34007788
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_weapon

pic may be related

>>34014758
Except a large number of people who have been posting on 4chan and other forums have been formatting like that since before leddit existed. They continue to post like that because they want people to actually read their posts rather than ignore the impenetrable block of text.

>>34010224
I don't understand how a nuclear weapon could propel mass in space if there is no atmosphere to displace move mass in the opposite direction. Seems like basic newtonian physics would prevent it from moving.

Or was it supposed to vaporize matter off the spaceship? I don't see how that would work either.

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Ekranoplan? Anyone? Just me? Maybe my dad?

>>34014549
>Anybody know if the first bfv will work on win10

I got it installed and it works fine (it's in 4:3 so you have to edit some config file)
Still often play it with friends and it's good fun

>>34008198
>I d-d-don't use r-r-r-reddit. n-n-no w-w-way!
>continues using reddit spacing like a pleb
Whatever you say newfriend.

>>34010178
Too many people are irrationally scared of nuclear power. Coal kills more each year than nuclear accidents ever have. People are still having kittens over Fukushima even though no one of sight has been killed by fallout, it's to the point where they've totally forgotten about the tsunami that killed thousands of people at the same time.

>>34015031
The spacecraft poops out a small nuclear shaped charge, it explodes and shoots atomized tungsten towards the spacecrafts ass. When it hits the baseplate it shoves the spacecraft forward. Think of it like moving toys around in your yard by hitting them with your bb gun.

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>>34015039
This shit was fucking HOT

>>34014414
This reminds me of that pasta from some anon doing an Arts course in college that happened to sculpt a huge dragon out of a tree trunk, only to have it exposed next to some shitty styrofoam carving of a man sucking himself.

>>34015111
fearmongering has killed nuclear power, people are convinced it poisons the air they breathe. Obsolete RBMKs and greedy jews not protecting their backup power generators from floods on the fucking shoreline on an island that sits on 4 tectonic plates are hardly representative of the industry. It's completly save, it just has to be done properly.

Fukishima however is a complete fuck up. It will probably be harder and more expensive to clean that one up than chernobyl.

>>34015039
>>34009565

>>34015111
Nuke devices are ok up to a point, if you've got the common sense to keep fucking morons away from it and generally put it somewhere away from anything you might not want irrevocably fucked.
Generally most accidents are a result of some mouth breathing dumb shit pulling something out or adding too much of something in, not doing maintenance and other acts of human idiocy.

If you can remove those two factors from the equation your risk goes down by a huge amount.

>>34010808
>the US is fucked by debt
No, that isn't how it works. Debt for a country isn't the same as debt for you or me.
If you owe the bank a million, you're in trouble, if you owe it a trillion, the bank's in trouble.
No one is going to collect on US debt anyway....

>>34015169
to bring this back to cold war stories

>Generally most accidents are a result of some mouth breating dumb shit pulling something out
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1#Incident_and_response
In this case, pulling something out just a bit to far. The reactor was intended to heat and power arctic bases. When they pulled out the control rod just a bit to far during maintenance it went critical. All three guys died, one was nailed to the ceiling of the confinment by the control rod that the steam explosion shoved out of the reactor.

So another important part of reactor safety is designing them to be safe. I think we figured that part out by now though.

>>34015167
>Harder and note expensive to clean
Residents could move back right now, with no additional cleaning. It's just irrational thinking that means people won't return.

To expand, people ought to do some reading and realise that Chernobyl can't happen in western reactors. No shit things go wrong when you let the night shift disengage safeties and carry out experiments in the reactor.

>>34015169
I'd say the risk of nuclear power is already acceptable. We burn coal (for example) on a daily basis that we know kills thousands each year, that's considered acceptably risky.

>>34015265
i didn't mean the town of fukushima, you're right, they could go back. The problem is the reactor itself, because the core has melted through the fucking containment. They're having a hard enough time to prevent it from contaminating the groundwater at the site right now. In difference to chernobyl it won't be dealt with after building a nice concrete coupola over it, they need to dig it out to make it long term safe.

>>34015197
US debt also has fixed repayment terms. If someone tried to "call it in" early they'd be told to fuck off.

>>34010807
>Let me tell you something, I'm from Gaza and I say Kill Em All!

>>34015132
Eh... so if the bomb threw a projecticle wouldn't the bomb need to propel equal mass in the opposite direction?

A bb gun uses stored energy from when you cocked the lever and its just a spring that tosses a bb.

Just seems like a really inefficient rocket.

>>34014140
>calculations say it fucked off into space at a percentage of c.
It probably vaporized in the atmosphere.

>>34013091
For what conceivable purpose? What would the Russians even shoot with this?

>>34014758
Wanna know how I know you're a newfag?

>>34013605
Just goes to show you that all science and engineering should be done in imperial units

>>34010995
There is no longer a common enemy to push science workers to care about the national good instead of their own hyperinflated egos

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>Troop carrying space plane atop an air-dropped, air-launched ICBM
What what what ?

>>34015535
Ayys

>>34015031
>>34015507
Most of you reaction mass in an Orion Drive is photons. That's why your peak speed is so high.
>>34015132
Wrong.

>>34015687
>everyone should use the objectively worse system because muh nationalism
I love America too, but Imperial is shit. Shit!

>>34015801
But how would they lure the ayys directly overtop this?

>>34015809
>you see Ivan, if cannon is built beneath Red Square, ayylmaoski will aim for landing on capital first, then kaboom

>>34014140
The Casaba Howitzer concept was developed after this test showed that nuclear weapons could do this kind of thing.
>>34015527
That's what XKCD guy thinks, and he's probably right, but it was still moving somewhere between .06c and .17c based on the high-speed video.

I say we sink a couple thousand in the moon to protect our orbitals.

>>34009145
I... plz explain

>>34015809
You make thousands of them and fire off the ones that are in the right place.

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>>34009527
>visable continuous sonic boom

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>>34013091
This is videogame-level of awesome.

>>34015205
>The scientists questioned the [former operators of SL-1]: “Did you know that the reactor would go critical if the central control rod were removed?” Answer: “Of course! We often talked about what we would do if we were at a radar station and the Russians came. We’d yank it out.”

>>34015507
>need to propel equal mass in the opposite direction?
Equal energy, yes

The efficiency of a rocket solely depends on the velocity of the exhaust gas, there is no need for atmosphere to "push against". Rocket engines get more effective the lower the ambient pressure, because there's less stuff around to slow the exhaust gas down. Chemical rockets achieve exhaust gas velocities of a few thousands m/s, a nuke propells particles at double digit fractions of C. It's a hell of a lot more efficient than any other engine we have even thought of right now (except reactionless drives but we dont really know if those work to begin with).

>>34015924
Equal momentum

Photons count

>>34015802
no, you're wrong. They specifically designed bombs with tungsten reaction mass. Photons are almost irrelevant

>>34007825
>Why would the CIA fund the modern art movement?

Money laundering.

>>34009563
That is literally what every parent tells their kid. She died, Jim.

>>34015809
earth rotates, m8. its basically a deflection shot, you just gotta time it right

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>>34013436
>The weapon was able to produce doughnut-shaped rings of plasma and balls of lightning that exploded
>mfw

>>34015968
>earth rotates, m8
prove it, ball cuck.

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>>34015990
right here. I wrote that myself

>>34015849
The mine's electronics got to cold to function in the winter. One solution was to lock a live chicken in there with enough food and water to last a few weeks, since the body heat would keep the batteries functional.

>>34015935
The tungsten disk was meant to cause the bomb to release it's radiation (photons) and plasma in a cigar shaped discharge, ensuring that more of it struck the pusher plate than would if the bomb was unrestrained.

The disk is oriented parallel to the pusher plate, so the tungsten is mostly not going to hit the pusher plate, therefore (despite what Wikipedia spoon feeds you) the tungsten isn't reaction mass.

>>34016041
allright, i'm going to trust the guy from the bhutanese woodcarving forum that doesn't provide a coherent explaination over what wikipedia spoonfeeds me

>>34010107
>>>34009416
>I can't find the specific article but I recall hearing that Russia did research into nuclear gas thermal rocket engines. One possible variant included a spin stabilized radioactive core that could only operate properly if it was kept spinning. If it stopped for any reason your spaceship would suffer an instant and impressive catastrophic failure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaseous_fission_reactor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_core_reactor_rocket

>catastrophic and instant failure

Your gutless faggotry is why we can't have cool things any more.

>>34016061
I gave you a coherent explanation, you just either can't understand it or distrust it.

But that's on you, not on me.

>>34010372
>Would have cost billions of dollars, so obviously Congress vetoed that shit.

Congress didn't veto shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_Defense_Agency

Given that the Norkers are building ICBM's to reach Hawaii and Commifornia RIGHT NOW, I suppose it's a good idea we kept up with that shit.

We all owe Reagan a huge debt.

Always thought the Vulcan was pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WL46N60ZWI

Video related, that fucking AOA.

>>34016078
that isn't a coherent explaination, you simply stated something that goes against a source without even trying to falsify it.

>>34016078
shut up cuck

>>34016003
>I claim this guy proved it, therefore I proved it
Have you ever done this little "experiment"? Thought not.

>>34011152
>>>34010433
>>single stage Teller-Ulam hitting the gigaton range
>yeah nah m8


Not the pulse units. The B41's. Of which it had 200.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B41_nuclear_bomb

>>34011222
>>>34010433
>Why has pulsed fission propulsion gotten no attention in the last few decades, when it's the obvious solution for getting large payloads into orbit at the start of the space industrial age?
>Is it just "muh treaties" crap?


The Green Religion has declared all things Nuclear to be HARAM.

NO SPACE FOR YOU.

>>34016110
Yeah I have, same outcome.

>>34016030
Holy shit. Link?

>>34013436

>Classified in 1993
>No word on it since

If they didn't get it fully functional, it sure seems like they learned a lot from that project.

>>34013893
>What a 1GT "simulated" detonation on my hometown. For you Project Orion fans out there


I am ashamed to share a home state with a gutless faggot like you. For fucks sake, you live within driving range of Oak Ridge and you're such a wimp?

I am ashamed of your existence.

>>34010064
God how I wish someone would make a vidya with shit like this in it.

Somebody needs to make a "Popular Mechanics" video game.

>>34016145
You were measuring the curvature of a hill.

>>34015793

Basically the Dreamchaser but with an air launch. Not exactly stupid if you REALLY need to get 1,000 troops to XYZ location really fast. It was seen as cheaper than making a hypersonic transport aircraft.

>>34016343
If the earth were flat there would be no hills. Checkmate faggot.

>>34016369
I never said the earth was a perfectly flat plane. I refuted your assertion that the earth is a spinning ball. Obviously hills exist, if you left your basement once in a while perhaps you would even see one for yourself.

>>34016383
Hills are created due to the rotation force of the earth pulling land outwards from the ball shape, if it were flat as you say the rotation would create a pushing inward circulation force that would create giant holes instead.

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>>34009527
Lost my shit

>>34015850
>plan backfires
>instead of sending thousands efps gorillions of miles per hour at ayys the ussr is launched in space
>all ayys are swatted back into ayystan by the ussr flying at gorillions of miles per hour
>ussr goes away forever and a new ocean is formed in the hole below
>the ocean of hopes and dreams

>>34014758
Nah, reddit shitposting is what made some people take notice of it. Everyone else just has a basic understanding of English and how to use a paragraph like decent humans. Unless it's green text, nobody wants to read a wall

>>34016213
kerbal space program has been around for 5 years or so

>>34011152
Third stage fusion is the payoff. Efficiency through the roof.

>>34016415
>Hills are created due to the rotation force of the earth pulling land outwards from the ball shape,
That's the most retarded thing I've ever read.

>>34016343

I desperately want to force flat-earthers into space suits and launch them into orbit with no way back down safely.

Maybe, just maybe, they'll finally get it before they run out of air.

>>34016115
I'm talking about the giant warhead in the nose.

>>34015049
Reddit spacing is spacing after greentext, basic formatting is not Reddit

>>34016726
Your inclination to resort to violence just shows how weak your position truly is.

>>34014758
Im a mobilefag, and so my blocks of text are a lot longer than others. Which is why 'I' double space

>>34016798
It mostly frustration due to an someone not acknowledging basic fact. Like how you when you talk to a toddler and it is too stupid to understand why it is in trouble. But don't worry honey bunch I won't get all scary violent on you ;)

>>34011262
holy shit the mental image of that is hilarious
>we're going to nuke the moon to show we can

>>34016726
No, theyd just declare it to be a hologram or some shit then chant "nananana earth is flat nanananana I cant hear you nananana" until their air ran out.

>>34010698
Living in the cold war ducked though. Sure it was the last time there was real patriotism in the country, but there was also a REAL fear handing overhead. Not the "muh terrorists" fear, but a tangible competent enemy capable of killing a nation at the drop of a hat fear. Actual superpowers at each others throats

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>>34015039
Sips??

>>34009781
>$70k
>modest car
Im sitting in a car i bought for $1700, the fuck you mean modest

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>>34015904
Men after my own heart.

>>34008246

Fake as fuck.

>>34017008
the first payment he recieved was something along the lines of 15k bucks, that's modest for a new car i'd argue. It can get two orders of magnitude more expensive if you're willing to

>>34017101
To be fair, that was a bit more money back then.
Still a pretty low price for treason, though.

>>34017113
yeah it's just semantics at this point. 70k$ in 1980 would be 200k today but that still doesn't sound reasonable at all

>>34017135
Everyone has a price, turns out his was just pretty cheap.

>>34016927
Aww, thanks sweetie.

>>34017090
Dumb as fuck.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upshot-Knothole_Grable

>>34016798
>flat earthers can't handle free spaceshuttle rides.

LOL.

>>34009527
fucking filename

>>34017426
>"with no way back down safety"
>implying that doesn't violate the NAP

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>>34016383
>flat earther telling others to leave their basement

>>34014026
>may of
REEEEEEEEEEEE
IT'S MAY HAVE MOTHERFUCKER

>>34013551
>>34008971
>Span: 1,120 feet
Gross weight: 11.85 million pounds
Endurance: 41 days
Reactor output: 1830 megawatts
Crew: 845
Tactical fighters carried (AAC variant): 22
Lift engines: 182

>Power was derived from the heat generated by a nuclear reactor and transferred to four jet engines where it would superheat the air passing through to provide thrust. The craft would be capable of staying airborne for long periods of time. At low altitudes the jets would burn conventional aviation fuel. In order to get airborne in the first place it required 182 additional vertical lift engines.

>>34013349
>Stars'n bars in the window

>>34008059
you can make shitty art all you want, and i can call your art shit all i want

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>>34010433
>gigatons
Excuse me I have to change my now cum-soaked underwear

>>34011725
Just send a shop-vac up after the rocket to get rid of the fallout.