Gear Queer Thread /gq/

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any body ever be owned one of these cheap Chinese helmets? they claim to have level 3 protection but I'm skeptical because of the price

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>>33969145
is a helmet even worth it.

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Is the Banshee still the best budget plate carrier, or is there something better? I've been out of the loop for a while, and my plates are sitting around gathering dust for 2 years with no carrier.

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>>33969211
buy from Ukraine my dude

Its the new hot meme

>>33969254
they changed how they make them if you can find an old one for like $150 then they are pretty dope.

>>33969271
To be fair that ukie helmet was most probably made in china and just relabeled. Doubt they can even make shit like that themselves.

>>33969221
Pros:
-protects you from grenade fragments
-gives you level 3 coverage for your skull, anecdotal evidence suggests it can resist glancing blows from intermediate rounds
-saves you from banging your head on shit
-the most comfortable way to wear night vision

Cons:
-heavier and hotter than no helmet
-extra expense
-makes you look like a fag

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>>33969221
I mean you already own plates, and protecting the part of your body that is required to keep functioning is a pretty big plus

>>33969271
Is Ukrainian shit any good? And how expensive is it?

>>33969280
So what's the current favorite for best cheapest plate carrier?

>>33969282
Ukraine has a serious defense industry.

Ferro Slickster or Mayflower?

>>33969315
>So what's the current favorite for best cheapest plate carrier
BFG LMAC on clearance for $160

>>33969254
Like another poster said if you can find an older one sure but for best budget I would say gove AWS Inc a look. They make good stuff and have a 6094 style carrier.

If you have the cash right now I would say look into this

http://m.ebay.com/itm/USED-MULTICAM-MSA-PARACLETE-SOHPC-SPECIAL-OPERATIONS-PLATE-CARRIER-SIZE-LARGE-/132181034618?hash=item1ec69a867a%3Ag%3AvI4AAOSwrhBZC2xP&_trkparms=pageci%253Ae0d53e20-398e-11e7-a1b9-74dbd180b59b%257Cparentrq%253A0d067c0f15c0aa46a9188e8afffa4093%257Ciid%253A4

Paraclete makes good stuff(still did after they were bought by MSA) if it is your size I would say jump on it.

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>>33969282
why wouldn't ukraine be able to make helmets?

Its not that hard and the main difference between the ukraine helmet and the china brand china is that the ukie is tested to a standard in Germany where as the china is just made and sold to amerifats who larp

>implying that im not larping

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>>33969306
-protects you from grenade fragments

>i will never encounter hostile grenades while in gear in my civilian life

-gives you level 3 coverage for your skull, anecdotal evidence suggests it can resist glancing blows from intermediate rounds

>could be nice

-saves you from banging your head on shit

>i just dont bang my head

-the most comfortable way to wear night vision

>tfw i can't afford night vision.

>>33969309
yeah i just think its unlikely i will ever need it. Its on the list of shit that would be neat to have but i doubt i will ever be shot while already wearing gear and it just becomes less and less likely the more we talk about the specifics of what a helmet would protect me from.

i honestly wouldn't even wear my plate carrier once i left my home or vehicle during SHTF.

>>33969327
>hoosier
>giving larping advice

There is no one in here more qualifed to give larping tips.

>>33969315
well A2grip bought one and shot the piss out of it. I think it did better then the CPG shit. I paid like $290 shipped and I am waiting for it to show up. Might be mid next week i'm hoping.

>>33969317
A serious indusrty of renewing soviet garbage.

>>33969357
Modernized soviet garbage isn't complete garbage. The only reason we don't see Ukraine fielding a modern military is because of years of intentional mismanagement and corruption at the hands of Russian infiltrators.

>>33969378
>кляты мocкaли

>>33969393
>vows of mossali
What does this mean?

>>33969378
>years of intentional mismanagement and corruption at the hands of Russian infiltrators.
Ahaha, you can't be serious. Mismanagement and corruption is par for the course in practically every post-Soviet shithole. Ukraine is no exception.

>muh Ukraine will be a superpower by 2030

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>>33969343
bb warz my guy

6mm case less is the future

>>33969402
>muh Viktor dindu nuffin
Some day the Ukrainian military will eclipse the Russian military, and the vatnik butthurt will be glorious.

>>33969417
Ok there Taras.

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>>33969327
So you say these guys should be capable of making helmets?

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>>33969468
well if a pack of filthy gooks can do it, so can a bunch of retarded slavs. Like i stated, making Kevlar helmets is not hard.

>>33969468
If they can make missiles and satellites i'm sure they can manage a few ballistic helmets.

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>>33969409
>rifle manlet

Amirite?

>>33969309
Where do I find that /k/ Georgia flag patch?

Custom made?

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>>33969601
Custom made for a meet

>>33969211
Revision high cut helmets aren't much more than that and are most likely better made

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>>33969609
would you operate with me large one?

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>>33969677
I'll operate with anyone who doesn't ND into a steel pole and almost dome me

>>33969409
Enjoy not being able to go prone comfortably....

>>33969692
good luck with that, thems some pretty high standards my friendo

>>33969697
uh going prone is just fine. thanks though?

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>>33969692
kek who did that shit.

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>>33969708
>>33969798
Some retard at my schools marksmanship club
Bullet went through my hair
Hence, helmet

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>>33969813
Thats impresssive

>>33969813
fucking a pham. closest thing i have had to a range mishap was a piece of spall from a steel pistol target embedded it's self in my lip like 50 yards away at my local range. I can't imagine how shook i would be if it was was fucking round grazing me head.

>>33969341
>i honestly wouldn't even wear my plate carrier once i left my home or vehicle during SHTF

I think it's time for you to leave now.

>>33969844
>>33969849
Yeah, it was with my sig too, fuckin ching chang said "he was tired and gun was too sensitive"

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>>33969863
make me pham, i will make it a lot further than you innawoods.

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>>33969881
some fucking zipperhead almost killed you with your own gun?

>>33969883
Doubt it, I actually have running water all through out my woods. While you die of dehydration, dumb beard man.

>>33969901
>he still things California is in a drought
>he thinks the norcal mountains were ever effected by it

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>>33969897
Yep

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>>33969920
after the first time it kinda stops bothering you. Anymore im used to it but I do make sure that I lower my risk of being shot when possible

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>>33969920
i completely understand the helmet then pham

>>33969901
>>33969911
this was yesterday

>>33969932
A E S T H E T I C
I wasn't actually all that bothered, mostly cause I wasn't aware of what happened until later. I thought the thing through my hair was ceiling dust because we had this one indian guy who never aimed

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Best AIWB that doesn't have a fucking 8 week wait like G-code? I'm looking at m3 tactical kydex. Might pick up one of his owb holsters with the drop on in too.

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help me /gq/

i need an ultra small and flat molle pouch. should have zippers and be horizontal kinda like pic related but a lot smaller. the smallest poches i can find are dip pouches but those are round. any ideas?

>>33970219
pls be in London

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Serious question. Want this rifle and pc to be a truck rig I carry around just. in. case.

But I'm worried about ceramics getting to hot sitting in my car during a southern summer? Is there anything I can do to keep them cooler while sitting in the back seat? Should I just get steel?

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>>33969813
dirty camo mixer

>>33970623
Keep the air conditioning on full time.
Short of that they'll be fine

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Any reputable shotgun rigs besides SOE's?

>>33970800
>2017
>shotgun

>>33970805

pls no bully

>>33970800
Just throw the shells into pockets, not like you can go high speed with a tube-fed shotgun anyways.

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>>33970800
why not get a chicom and some esstac shotgun cards and tie them down to the chicom loop with some paracord

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>>33970847
what about a quiver of tube speedloaders?

>>33970875
Sure thing if you're into comp shooting.

>>33969341
what radio pouch is that senpai

>>33970899
7.62 tactical extended baofeng pouch

http://762tactical.com/molle-compatible-baofeng-uv-5r-radio-pouch-extended-battery.html

>>33969145
As far as Plate Carriers go, hows BDS tactical? Any good or are they shit?

Also, looking for some operator shirts with a DCU pattern. Any advice on where to find those or is that a unicorn?

>>33970988
dude go to fucking EBAY and GOOGLE and research this shit. If you never see anybody here talking about it, its not something we have experience with or its not worth talking about.

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>>33969315
>Is Ukrainian shit any good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXnCBrV61uc
>And how expensive is it?
Cheap, go to the manufacturer site for a discount.

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>>33969911
>still thinks cal is yadda yadda

I don't pay attention to what's going on on the other side of the country. I didn't even know your 'state' was still part of the union. I assumed you lived in a free state like az.

But what happens when shtf during a drought? You die like the jihadist scum that you are. Do you literally just own plates to larp in?

(This is what I woke up to this morning)

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>>33971035
>you right now

>>33970988
they're unicorns, but on the bright side you can make one yourself for cheap if you want one so badly.
OPERATOR TIER OPERATORS used to modify their own uniforms with additional pouches, velcros and such before ACU cut was a thing:

http://www.specwargear.com/retro/RAID.html

Just buy an extra set to rip away the pouches you need from and put them on the one you plan on using.

>>33971076(you)

>>33971076
>right now

That's Johnson all the time.

JPC should be here soon.

How do you guys configure your PCs?


I'm thinking of keeping 3 Mags in the Kangaroo Pouch (Duh).

Should the IFAK go on the side or in front?

Also, what are the best mag pouches to go with, and are dump pouches a necessity?

>>33971115
Configure it to your needs. Mag pouches are what you are quickest/best with. They all hold mags.

>>33971115
Try to keep as much shit off of it as you can. Armor is already heavy enough as it is. I have 3 mags and a tourniquet on mine(sometimes a hydration pack too), everything else is on my belt or in a pack.

>>33971115
I like to run 3 mags in the front, but I also have the BFG triple mag pouch molle'd on my mag pouches so I can have 3 more mags if needed, or use it to hold multitools or other stuff. Have a tournique pouch under my right arm. Radio pouch under my left arm. Hydration on back.

IFAK, 1 mag pouch, holster, 2 pistol mags and utility on my belt.

>>33970740

...but what if I step into a building for like half an hour, shit gets really hot really fast...

>>33971069
>I don't pay attention to what's going on on the other side of the country.

>I didn't even know your 'state' was still part of the union.

sarcasm can only cover up so much of your ignorance.

>But what happens when shtf during a drought?

are you really this stupid?

>You die like the jihadist scum that you are

serious this meme is old as fuck, you think that because i have a beard that i am a fucking jihadist? do you not see how fucking stupid that makes you sound?

>Do you literally just own plates to larp in?

do you literally think you are some operator who is gonna be a hero in some SHTF storyline.

>(This is what I woke up to this morning)

looks like a shithole

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>>33971197
>he has a beard in 2017

>>33971115
>How do you guys configure your PCs?
100 yards of rope
10 gallons of water
4 quarts of CLP
2 rifle mags
1 pistol mag
Some scuba gear

Best place to mount a fixed blade knife on PC or belt?

>>33971165
Incredibly stupid question incoming.

What Belts do you guys use that are rigid enough to hold all this gear?

Any recommendations?

>>33971211
you seem pretty hung up on this, maybe you can't grow one.

>>33971236
Please stop posting.

>>33971233
You forgot the noose :^)

>>33971197
Man, I understand why you don't trip, you're such a touchy bitch. I never claimed to be aware of your oh so parched lips, so yes I was ignorant of it. Do you know what the political climate in ky is like? No, because you don't give a fuck, just like I don't give a fuck about what is going on in your socialist state. And no I don't think I'm some hero operator, I don't even have plates, but if I did, I would wear them so if for some reason someone shot me in the chest, I wouldn't die immediately. Do you need to have the wambulance sent straight to your location? Is steam shooting out of your ears? I see how you will actually die in shtf, it would be from complications due to mass frustration because mummy couldn't tie your velcro boots fast enough.

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>>33971236
i use an ares gear aegis

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>>33971236
>Any recommendations?
Ronin Tactics
>>33971115
>Should the IFAK go on the side or in front?
Personal pref, it shouldnt interfere with other gear and it should be able to be grabbed by either hand in a number of dumb positions
>Also, what are the best mag pouches to go with
This is asking /o/ which car is best car.
>are dump pouches a necessity?
no

>>33971284
I ignore you faggots every day for months and the one time i respond i am a touchy bitch.

>>33971233
>some scuba gear

Willing to trade that for a ruger lc9 ?

>>33971236
ATS war belt with suspenders and riggers belt with cobra buckle. Inner belt is a de santis velcro duty belt that is used as a normal belt and holds the war belt in place.

http://atstacticalgear.com/ats-war-belt/

http://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/cb-31BV.html

http://www.lapolicegear.com/desantis-trouser-inner-belt.html

>>33969324
Ew LMAC a shit. It comes with fucking MOLLE Stix to hold the side plate pockets in ffs. Sure it's $160, but then you have to immediately upgrade the cumberbund to either the buckles or Velcro.

Literally anything BFG sucks except their slings and I've owned a lot of BFG because it kept getting recommended to me and looked functional but never was. MOLLE Minus, TKN, Micro TKN, LMAC, Ten Speed, all sold or in the junk pile.

>>33971129
>>33971275
Hey Johnson, instead of being a whiney, holier than thou kike, why don't you just answer simple questions about what gear you recommend?

Is it that hard to understand that when someone asks for recommendations, out of genuine curiosity, that they are in fact unaware of the knowledge they're asking about?

I know I'm not experienced with gear, to be fair, 95% of the population of this board is and it's not a knowledge base one can reasonably be expected to know about.

TLDR; Stop being a contrarian faggot and just ignore questions you aren't going to give a useful answer too.

>>33971284
>i don't even have plates
>if for some reason someone shot me in the chest, I wouldn't die immediately

If you don't even own plates then i don't understand your autism. You think i am stupid for not wanting to be weighed down when rucking through wooded mountainous terrain. Have you ever even worn plates?

>>33971322
Also I got all this used on ebay for like super cheap.

>>33971341
LMAC is fine. You can upgrade the molle sticks with something a little more secure if it bothers you, but I haven't had any problems with it.

>go to buy First Spear AAC to replace my issued PC for deployment
>8-10 week lead time
>we leave in like 3-4 weeks
>they only tell me after I place my order

Emailed customer service that I want cancel my order, but still really annoying. Not sure what I am gonna do for PC situation. Like the Aero is exactly what I want, but does not come in coyote. The MMAC is great, but isn't releasable, and the AVS is also great but doesn't support 6x8 side plates

>>33971343
How about you fucking do your research like the rest of us? Where do you think we came from? We read what other people said. Look at you, just starting out and demanding that people just answer you. Gear? What the fuck do you even want gear for ? You want to play dress up. Gear takes time, i have 6 plate carriers and only care for 2 of them. I have every type of pouch out there and found I don't really care for anything but mags and an IFAK. Get what you think you want and practice. Its expensive, you will waste a ton of money and find out that what A2 says doesn't work for you so you try what blue says and then you realize both are wrong and you try what [other trip] says and so forth. How about you fucking go out, find what you think you want and try it out then come back with results? Or should I just tell you get a [generic plate carrier] get a 3 shingle kangaroo mag pouch, get an IFAK pouch and a water source VIOLA you are a Larperator enjoy yourself. Same as cold weather gear, what fucking makes you warm use it.


(you)

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>>33971292
This is the second time you have acted this way towards me and it's only the second time ive ever said anything slightly negative towards you, except for trolling on your bathroom gear.

>>33971354
No, I haven't, and I wouldn't buy them if I only bought them to larp and take pictures on here.

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>>33971377
Also the newer LMACs have a different kind of molle stick for attaching the side pockets.

Looks like all of gq has their menstruation cycle timed together pretty well.

>>33971388
You can totally take your issued side plate pouches and run them through the sides of an AVS.

>>33971399
Cheap but it works, I like your setup anon, keep it up.
>>33971403
I will give love to anyone who needs it bby

>>33971390
>this buttmad

Topkek my dude.

If newfags don't ask people questions then how are they supposed to learn?

>>33971419
>If newfags don't ask people questions then how are they supposed to learn?
By doing "research" on google and making the same mistakes that johnson did.

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>>33971419
>If newfags don't ask people questions then how are they supposed to learn?
Lurk moar or atleast pace out your questions

>>33971391
The problem is your severe autism, not me.


>No, I haven't, and I wouldn't buy them if I only bought them to larp and take pictures on here.

i bet you are the try hard faggot who started the "operator general"

>>33971377
>MOLLE Stix are fine
No theyre not. They literally broke while I was setting it up out if the box.
>Just upgrade
Thats fucking retarded because a) it's supposed to be a deal. That means not needing to immediately spend $30 on their overpriced buckles and b) it's entirely unacceptable for someone with their reputation and price to be holding your plates on with plastic sticks.

>>33971430
fuck off /GQ/ is the place for people to ask question

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>>33971236
Crye low pro belt

Wish I had gone for the firstspear since the buckle is better imo, but meh.

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>>33971388
Havent looked for a dealer that sells FirstSpear? I never bought gear from firstspear, but the dealers ive bought from took 1-2 days to ship.

>>33971430
>yeah just don't ask people what's proven to work for them, you should suffer through buying gear and waste money on things you would have otherwise discarded as options because they were sub par for other people

In literally every activity I get involved in, be it camping/backpacking, fishing, building ARs, etc..., there are things that are universally known as the right way to do things, and before I get into gear, I want to make sure I'm doing things correctly.

So a question about, for example, what mag pouches people prefer, isnt really unreasonable at all.


I would Lurk, but when someone is just starting off it's difficult to ascertain exactly what to begin looking at.

We've literally all been there in literally every hobby and people that get mad at newcomers for daring to ask questions from a position of ignorance are faggots.

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>>33971441
Are you sure you didn't have it set up wrong? Because in my experience it's been very reliable.

There is a velcro patch inside the top loop on the PC that holds the stick in place. The lip on the bottom of the stick prevents the side pocket loops from slipping off.

>>33971470
>the buckle is better imo
Im shocked that its not some sort of cobra buckle

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>>33971499
So you just took up a trip and decided you needed to be known by such just because? Whats the point you are trying to prove, you are new? We do this all the time. I'm giving you the answers. Get gear you think is right based on what you read here and then fucking practice with it and find out for yourself what works best. Here is one of my plate carrier. Go from here.

>>33971517
On top of that nothing I bought is really "garbage" or sub par, in fact everything I have is perfectly viable. To me personally I just don't fucking use it because it doesn't work best for me. What flavors you like are the flavors you like. I don't like yellow plate carriers I think they look fucking stupid so I buy green ones. Doesn't mean the yellow one is any less than mine. You get it? Its literally all up to what fucking works for you. Make mistakes, resell on ebay or do whatever. That's how everybody with "good" shit here is.

>>33971517
I know how generals work lad; I tripped on /arg/ for a time and this is already more cancerous then they are.

Also

>Tripfag telling another tripfag not to trip because they weren't providing quality content, while at the same time defends not giving quality content to a newfag.

I'll lurk and shit but god damn no wonder people don't get into gear.

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>>33971503
Yeah, I wouldnt mind it too much, but more or less every time I use it with my plate carrier I'll have the buckle open partially, if not some times completely. Plan on switching them out when I get a chance.

>>33971436
Yeah because I'm the one who posts the same 500 pics of myself all geared up.

My autism was triggered when you suggested that your lard ass, with your kek worthy Alice frame(which you could have saved your money by not buying plates and an ocpc and got a good pack) will survive in the woods longer than me. I already live in the woods, there is no bugging out for me, I grew up playing in this shit, and you had to go out every weekend and "practice bushcraft", mister leet operator survivalist.

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That's it tho! If I'm going to post here I'm going to get along.

I'm just gonna wait until my JPC gets in to make any more PC related posts.

>>33971545
you don't know anything about me, where i grew up, or what i have done.

>>33971554
then go back to /arg/, they have gear there too fucking ask them. General threads aren't part of /k/ they are meta theres no fucking rules in them.

>>33971486
Who did you buy yours through? I haven't found anyone who stocks a lot of First Spear.

>>33971545
>Yeah because I'm the one who posts the same 500 pics of myself all geared up.

yet you still post in these threads regularly

I wanted to get a tac vest to hold spare mags and sidearm, keep it ready in the closet in bedroom.

My biggest fear is home invasion, would I have time to actually react to sound, get it on and get into position? I'm in like a 700 sq foot apartment.

Opinions?

Would it even be necessary? I always have a 60 round in the AR15, is that enough to fend off a home invasion?

>>33971620
Not worth it.

>>33971620
you will probably fire less than 10 shots

probably a lot less than that

I don't think there's ever been a home invasion that actually required more than one mag change in a rifle.

If you're going to wear something for a home invasion, it should be body armor.

>>33971620
3 to 4 rounds is the average

>>33971604
NorseGear, Norwegian site. They provide FirstSpear and Crye to Norwegian SOF, but they recently started selling stuff in Sweden and Poland. Also think Skdtac has some stuff.

>>33971417
Apologies for being a dick and putting signature confirmation on the slickster but I do that for anything I sell online.

>>33971672
You're a fucking asshole.

>>33971689
I mean yes
But I would expect people to do it if they were sending stuff to me, so also no.

>>33971653
I looked on SKD, that's where I bought the soft armor backers for use with the vest no one seems to be stocking the AAC period or Strandhogg in my manlet size, I'm gonna shoot the CS another message to see if the have the Strandhogg in Coyote/SM in stock.

>>33971706
I love buying shit from people and they put a fake return and the name "Johnson". Please tell me you dont do that crap too

>>33971627
>>33971640
>>33971641

Makes sense when thinking about it, I guess they no one is some Rambo, fearless killing machine and would haul ass out of there the second the homeowner shot back.

Thanks for the feedback anons. :^)

>>33971713
no
I printed the label through paypal so It's A2's name and my name/ address for the return

I do signature confirmation but that's as bullshit as I get.

>>33971724
you're just covering your ass. it's a little over the top but fuck it. if your carrier isn't a faggot you can usually just leave a signed note and they'll be like "ok"

>>33971706
What the fuck is wrong with you? People have fucking jobs, they can't just sit on their ass all day and wait for the mail.

>>33971724
I've had like 4 people from /k/ pull that shit and I did lose mail once. Feels really bad.

>>33970875

Modern day Robin Hood. Get like a benneli m4, and a quiver of those speed loaders.

>>33971736
>implying I'm a NEET
I have a job too, and I'm there when the mail comes.
If I miss mail I go by the PO after work and see if they have it, if not I ask them to hold it instead of redelivering the next day so I can pick it up after work then.
>>33971739
See, that's what makes that shitty.
The most I'll do is the wrong name on the return address, but I realized that was stupid and stopped it a while ago.

>>33971770
Its expensive stuff so I understand the signature thing though. Its reasonable. We had a remington 700 disappear through the mail once, signature was forged on the other end but because of having a signature in general it was found and all sorted out. I guess its a little different in this case but hey. They can prove somebody got it.

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The trip fag purse swinging is great

Also what plate carrier is this and where do i buy it? Doesnt look too complicated so it should be pretty cheap r

>>33971810
LOOK HE SAID IT !! HE SAID IT!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>33971810
Looks like some Condor airshit(just look at the guy top right, not even wearing a proper combat shirt).

>>33971810
its a condor, all those guys in pic are airsofters. i mean ffs the bottom left fat fuck is eating ice cream

>>33971825
Kekarooni

>>33971770
>I have a job too, and I'm there when the mail comes.
Where I live the mail comes in the middle of day and most people can only make it to post office on week ends due to their shitty hours.

>>33971035

>don't go on a fucking internet website, dude go to fucking INTERNET WEBSITE and INTERNET WEBSITE and research this shit.

>>33971555
Yeah just like how you know you're gonna make it a lot further in the woods than me. We're full of assumptions, huh?

>>33971605
Yep I sure do, and I don't post pictures of me wearing milspec gear either, so how does that make me the operator wannabe?

>>33971089
Thanks Anon.

>>33971035
Sorry I triggered you buddy

>>33971864
>milspec gear

hahahhaahahaaha

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>>33971824
>he said it
>what did he mean by this


>>33971825
>>33971832
Since its condor it should be cheap right? Also my buddy whos in the army said that condor is just as good as cry. Is this true?

>>33970800

What about a belt setup?

>>33971905
>Is this true?
yes

>>33971913
Thanks i fogured you would be paying for the kry name

>>33969341

>just dont bang my head

Wow ok, great idea. While I'm at it, how about I
>just dont get shot

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>>33970800
alice shotgun rig

>>33969324
All gone, I ordered a medium one got sent a shipping number and then 5 fuckingg days later they tell me they are all out of medium and that they won't do anything but refund me. FUCK BLUE FORCE GEAR

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>>33971931
>just dont get shot

>>33971938
This site has some.

http://www.theoutpostarmory.com/nsearch/?q=lmac

>>33971932

>go ask alice

>>33971938
Wait, so you ordered something, didnt get it, and didnt get a refund?
Err....just dispute it, theyll be blackmarked

>>33971961
The sale price doesn't show up until your on the items page*

Where's the cheapest place to buy HSG, gear?

>>33971888
So are you trying to say that a 6094/ocpc isn't milspec?

>>33971997
ware git?

>>33969211
You are right to be suspicious. They are NOT level 3A.

https://youtu.be/TxxKbyvvMpg

>>33971972
I did get a refund. Just mad that it takes them basically a work week to tell me they aren't actually sending me what they had sent me a tracking number for. It's annoying.

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wat

>>33972042
shiieeeet

>>33971961
THey are charging 120 dollars more then what BFG was selling them for. Not worht it at that price. Might just get a mayflower

>>33972068
IT'S A TRAP

>>33971990
there is that ignorance again, I do not own a 6094. And it wouldn't matter if i did, because "milspec" doesn't fucking mean anything. you own a cat tourniquet. COMBAT APPLICATION TOURNIQUET, it was designed for military use and its manufacturing & materials were are to military specification "milspec". They are used by EMTs and police and other first responders as well. Are you and them all larping with your combat tourniquets or are you just utilizing something the military also uses?

my plate carrier is a shellback tactical banshee you fucking idiot.

>>33972076
Did you click on any of them? They're selling for $155

>>33972068
We r anonymus

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>>33969145
So what's your favorite softshell? I'm in the market for one atm.
I'd prefer something in either coyote brown or an NWU variant, but I'm cool with multimeme if that's all there is.

>>33972134
multicam is the future

>>33972157
multicam is trash and will be forgotten as a relic of the GWOT

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>>33972176

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>>33972157
>>33972176

Embrace the guac.

>>33972201
What is this? Diarrheacam?

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Current Pre PC loadout.

5 Mags in a 5.11 Chest rig

2L of water, A med kit, DEET, a hammock, and Space blanket in my pack.

Hypothetically I could fit a bunch more into the pack but I don't usually keep it ready to go.

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for those of you that keep your sidearm on your rig, where do you attach it? On a larger PC I would just stick it on the chest, but with the smaller ones it's a challenge to find room for the mag pouches.

After some experimenting I found I like it tucked under the left arm (facing out).
>see pic

>>33972243
Some people arent a fan of chest/cross draw due to the flagging risk if they swing past a buddy to left/right.

If you really want it part of your gear you could try a drop hanger off a side panel.

>>33972243
Get a MOLLE belt, put it there

>>33972084
YOUR right thanks anon. I think I'm gonna take it as a sign and just get the mayflower apc instead

>>33972286
what is this drop hanger you speak of?

>>33972397
Manhole cover carrier?

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>>33972342
k

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>>33972409

so out of curiosity, where did you guys get your ceramic/steel plates and how much did you pay for them?

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>>33972377
Duty drop/drop hangerl/belt drop/belt hanger/(combination of the aforementioned words) is an adapter for a holster system that is designed to lower a holster below a belt line so it doesnt interfere with a carrier. If you put it on a carrier it might drop it to your belt line or around there.


>>33972491

>>33970219
pls b in Texas

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>>33972491
life and liberty gear
hesco brand level IVs, 7.8lbs
$130
blease do not buy steel

>>33972491
Amazon.com (I shit you not)
$200 for a set of IV ceramics and it even came with 2 big sheets of Kevlar and a trauma pack.
It was some suspicious Israeli company and amazon took it down after a couple of days.

>>33972409
That's Crye Precision's original Chassis plate carrier

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>>33971399
No.

>>33969624

i want that patch bro

>>33969211
>FMA
They make bretty okay non ballistic replicas of Ops Core brain buckets for Airshit use but I'm pretty sure the NIJ Rating in the EBay listing is bullshit.

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>>33972409
Liquid armor.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/ffw3.htm

has eotech fixed their problems or at least mitigate it?

>>33972793
No, they just changed their logo.

>>33972814
rmr it is then, thanks

>>33969495
it's not like the chinese make good helmets. they'll catch the rounds but have fun with the BFD.

>>33972832
I hope not for your main optic

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>>33970609
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N

>>33971540
Legitimately just lurk and see everyone post their carriers every thread. Watch garandthumb on yt if you just want to copy someone else's setup. But unless you have a specific question don't ask. Ifak on belt, side if you must.

>>33972872
its for a range toy 7in ar pistol

so yeah

im going to old school smg it with an 1 point sling far out

>>33972932
So why is the choice between Eotech and RMR, again?

>>33972932
>range toy
ok that's cool

>1 point sling
ew

>>33972959
>>1 point sling
>ew
its a fucking 7" pistol lad stop being a walking meme for 21 seconds

>>33972932
Why you doing the 1-point sling push technique? I know it works decent for AKs, but your AR has a handy dandy buffer tube waiting for a blade tech brace.

>>33969145
I have that exact vest, but I'm upgrading to a Stich Profi Defender 2.

>>33972979
Only walking meme is you and your single point sling tb h f am

>>33973025
im not that guy, ar pistols are fucking gay
but come on

>>33972956
no irons and i prefer the look for it.

>>33972998
>Why you doing the 1-point sling push technique?
yep or i might just go for that too but fucking atf might change their ruling again

>>33973049
If you like meme optics, I might suggest a Meprolight for something fullsized that isn't an Eotech while giving you a similar reticle.

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>*blocks your path*

I heard you think camo mixing is bad anon
we can't have a platform for hatespeech in this utopia

>>33971501
thats not a molly stix, this is: https://store.itstactical.com/molly-stix-pair.html

They are held on by a little clamp in the top, and exposed I could see it being an issue, plus they are prone to snapping. But they hold the rear of my cummerbund in place on both my IOTV and my plate carrier I bought, and they work well in that role. I wouldn't want to use them on the side of my cummerbund though

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>>33973116
>not rotating the image b4 posting

Ronin Senshi vs Tyr Gunfighter, what does the extra $50 get you?

They both use inner belts + cobra buckles, have the slim MOLLE bits, they Tyr has a bigger adjustment strap, I guess?

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>>33973215
>not roasting me on the shitty setup
>shitty gun
>cheap carrier
>shitty old helmet
>shitty top
>shitty hunting gear balaclava
>FUCKING DIGICAM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

you fags might have to deal with me in these threads from here on out thanks for the you though bud

>>33973314
>implying aesthetics matter to a bullet

it's functionality I'm after my friend

>>33973223
based on the reviews it seems like the senshi is supposed to be stiffer which may be nice for holster stuff

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to anyone who bought a Ukrainian helmet, how long did it take for him to ship it?

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>>33973364
fair enough

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>>33973472
disturbingly fast desu
be advised if you're getting it from stan_sprinter on ebay he'll label it as a $39 replica helmet to avoid customs issues
and it seems to have worked

>>33973506
cool thanks

>>33969211
those have a backface deformation of about an inch so i you get hit in the head you probably won't die but will be eating from a straw for the rest of your life.

That being said, my country's special naval warfare units use them for inexplicable reasons.

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>>33973024
I mean one is a plate carrier and one is an armor carrier. Two different uses really. What made you get the Defender?

>be browsin' Crye website
>oh look a new armor system
>click on LVS
>see LVS™ OVERT COVER (MAG POUCH)
>only $95.70
>Multicam in medium available
>boner.jpg
>imagining all the sick shit i'll be doing wearing the thang
>add to cart
>checking out
>read fine print
>it's just a fucking cover for the base vest which is $700+
fucking fuck

I just had an idea. Could a non-newtonian fluid theoretically be effective as body armor?

>>33973871


>>33972763

>>33973506
>>33973573
>>33973472
Mine went in the mail April 26 and was at my door on May 4.

>>33973871
Pretty sure a bullet is moving to fast
>>33973879
That would mean you know exactly when to activate the armor before you get shot

We'll need to come a long way in material science for this stuff to work

what's the best full set up i can get for $80?

>>33973897
>full set up

?????

>>33973917
like, all the gear

>>33973897
go to a junkyard and buy an old engine block, then hide behind that.

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>>33973881
ty redfam

>>33973927
what if i need to move?

>>33973940
spend another $5 at harbor freight and put casters on it

>>33973923
Go to a surplus store and get some ALICE gear.

>>33973947
awesome, thanks.

>>33973839
i mean what did you expect? a level IIIA vest for $100?

>>33970875
Would operate with

Woodland LBT 1476A for the memes? Only $99 rn

>>33974028
>Woodland
no

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>>33972082
My bad, I forgot you were using a shittier design of an outdated concept to larp and take pictures. With that whole point being that all I have is a couple chest rigs, that have purpose, while you have a plate carrier with plates, which you have stated you do not intend on using when it would be of most use, yet you accuse me of being a fantasy operator. And of course all while you imagine that if shtf you are going to ruck out ten miles and live in/off the wilderness.

>>33974114
actually i was going to ruck to my cabin which has a well, stored food, and solar.

I collect gear because it's a hobby. I shoot guns because it's fun. I called you a fantasy operator because you seem to think that its the only point in having gear.

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Why are flannels so damn /fa/ with tactical gear

>>33974182

What's up with your battle belt and shit dude?

>>33974228
dan is notoriously retarded

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>>33974182
did they ever tell you when your PC is coming

>>33974228
What battle belt?

>>33974246
Yes, should be in before next Wednesday.

>>33974182
because comfy and gear belong together

>>33974144
I have a truck. When I need to go to town to get something, or when I go to work, I drive it there. I use it for it's intended purpose. Would you call me a fantasy race car driver?

>the only point in having gear is to be a fantasy operator.

I'm speaking specifically about YOU OWNING BALLISTIC PLATES AND SAYING YOU WOULDNT USE THEM IN A SITUATION (compared to the rest of your entire life) THAT WOULD HAVE A DECENT LIKELYHOOD OF YOU GETTING SHOT AT.

If it's just a hobby, why wouldn't you get training plates? What's the point of buying cheap, heavy ceramic plates(that you say are too heavy to leave your house or your vehicle with them) that you plan on never using if the situation arises that you could use them? Don't get me wrong, I HIGHLY doubt I'll ever have to really use my gear, and hope I won't ever have to, but you can be damn sure if I think there is a big enough threat for me to feel the need to pick up my ar, or bug out, or anything like that, I'm picking up my fucking micro fight as well, I'm not going to just leave it laying because it weighs 4 extra pounds, or because its uncomfortable compared to not wearing it.

>>33974358
seriously dude what is wrong with you?

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>>33974397
Idk, my doctor won't return my calls. He's the fifth one I've went through.
None of those ass holes will admit, that their stethoscopes are just for larping.

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>>33971322
>>33971236
Bump for another ATS War Belt.

It is more on the budget side, but mine has been working pretty well. Of course get a nicer one if you can. I kinda wish I had sprung for the HSGI one.

>>33971541
Cute cat. Nice belt. Why is everyone putting their IFAK on the back?

>>33971672
Way to go....

>>33972221
Not bad. One thing you definitely want to start doing is mentally separating your operating gear, and your Bug/out/ gear.


>>33973506
Any chance these are going to dry up soon?
I want one but can't afford it right now.

>>33973897
>>33973923
>>33973927
>>33973940
>>33973947
>>33973951
Both of you stahp pls.

>>33975082
>Any chance these are going to dry up soon?
no, they are new production you goober
>Why is everyone putting their IFAK on the back?
He doesnt know lmao

>>33973897
Alice pack and LBE

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>>33969145

>>33973896
IIRC there has been testing done on this subject

>>33975082
The TL;DR on Hiking/BugOut/Survival setup vs a SHTF setup is basically just going with a chest rig instead of a PC, and bringing a cooking setup with some shelter and more weather proof clothing right?

What's a solid rainproof jacket to bring in conjunction with gear?

>>33977733
Both of you are so fucking dumb it's ridiculous.

>>33975388
I know they're new production I didn't man dry up in that sense. I meant like stop being successfully imported because of ITAR or something.

>>33977733
It depends on so many things. Don't have any hardshell recommendations sorry.

>>33978237
Recommend a rain jacket asshole.

>>33970800
Get a 12g bandoleer, cut it to 4-6 shell strips.
Sew/Gorilla glue velcro to them.
These will fit into most mag pouches that will hold STANAG magazines. Find a chest rig/platecarrier with female velcro on it and you're good.
There's also this:
http://www.beezcombatsystems.com/Tactical-Shotgun-Shell-Chest-Rig-BCS-CR-TS.htm

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>>33974182
damn bro go eat a cheeseburger or something

>>33978299
>Recommend a rain jacket
trash bag with arm holes or dead bird

>>33978398
>he doesnt tape shoipping bags together
Fucking leaf.

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>>33970565
HALP

>>33971913
>>33971928
Is Crye really that bad?

>>33978520
well I'm not sure if you'd find one with a zipper but you could try looking for document/map pouches. Those are the smallest and thinnest pouches I can think of.

>>33978531
Crye is a good company.

Just realize that around 75~80% of the price is the name.

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Is there a helmet even on the market that can correctly stop 5.56 from penetrating your skull?

>>33978650
Yes

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WHAT WEAPON SHOULD I USE TO REMOVE THIS? HOLY SHIT THE ANTICHRIST IS UPON ME

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Indestructible phone cases for being innawoods?

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>>33978559
>document/map pouches
not a bad idea. any recommendations?

>>33979050
No, pocket is fine

>>33978531
No it's not. You're just indeed paying somewhat of a premium because of MUH LARPING TIER 1, and because of their manufacturing/marketing model.

Also, expect a few months between the order and the actual delivery of your items.

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>>33969282
>To be fair that ukie helmet was most probably made in china and just relabeled. Doubt they can even make shit like that themselves.
Yeah, sure doubt one of the world's largest arms exporters have any capability of designing and making defense equipment. Being able to do that and therefore maintain their largest export would be stupid.

>>33969254
No, they're way overpriced these days. Save for an APC or a JPC for the best entry-level plate carrier.

>>33969468
Yes, a country that has been making military equipment for years should be able to make a ballistic helmet regardless of your shitty old image.

>>33979199
buy an NVG yet?

>>33979199
>world's largest arms exporters
So what do they export besides restored soviet arms?
>a country that has been making military equipment for years should be able to make a ballistic helmet
No shit, soviets were able to make these.

>>33979077
we're not talking about a complicated piece of equipment where alot can go wrong, so as you don't buy voodoo tactical shit you probably can't go wrong

>>33979329
Hmmm it's almost like he's trying to tell you that it makes sense a country that has been historically producing military equipment is capable of making a helmet without outsourcing to China.

What are some good brands for low profile chest rigs? I've been looking at Blue Force Gear, HSGI, and Tactical Tailor, but there's got to be more companies out there that make some nice small chest rigs. I don't need that much real estate because I'm a 5'6" woodland sprite and prefer pistol caliber carbines.

>>33979050
http://shop.juggernautcase.com/juggernaut-case-galaxy-s7/

>>33979692
Spiritus micro fight is small and cool
But sold out everywhere for eternity.

Pls tell me you wear woodland camo gear.

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>>33979792
I'd prefer something that's all MOLLE.
>pls tell me you wear woodland camo gear
I generally wear civilian hiking clothes, although I do often wear an M81 BDU jacket or M65 jacket when I'm in the woods. I have a black low-pro MOLLE belt that I wear a Beretta, 3 pistol mags, a dump pouch, and a Blue Force Micro Trauma Kit on. I'm planning on ordering some black Tyr Tactical MP5 pouches and a black Haley flatpack to integrate into a chest rig setup for a PCC/subgun. I dig the aesthetic of low-profile black gear on civilian clothes/woodland. I know subguns are kind of shit, but I've got a waifish physique and I only shoot for recreation, so it doesn't really matter.

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>>33970738
I see my meme loadout is still a thing

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>>33979395
the ones i looked at are too segmented. i'd like the pouch to have one compartment. maybe i should have specified that i it need it to hold like 5-10 9mm rounds.

>>33980329
the loadout isn't the meme. the funny remark is.

so do you guys like your pants tight or loose? Like on the legs. Tight pants tight groups, loose pants loose ...poops?

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Are these "frog" jackets any good? Also, are they softshell or more akin to actual BDU material?

>>33978585
When will this meme end. Materials and labor for full US production is expensive. Like 70% of the MSRP expensive. So they make about 30% of the price as profit, like ANY OTHER FUCKING COMPANY.

>>33980449
Are these rounds in a magazine? Are you looking for a single mag pouch with a zipper?

>>33980720
no just for some loose ammo

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>>33980743
so a very small MOLLE pouch with a zipper that can hold 5-10 loose pistol rounds.
Unfortunately I don't think they make any such pouch, since most people would just use their pants pocket for something like that.

>>33978299
>. I meant like stop being successfully imported because of ITAR or something.
Naw
>Recommend a rain jacket asshole.
Level 4 PCU

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>>33980803
>use their pants pocket
yeah that's exactly what i do but that's not very gear queery so i'm looking for a /gq/ solution. closest thing i found i pic related. but the tasmanian tiger logo is fucking gay.

>>33980743
Why

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>>33980903
okay how about this then

https://www.amazon.com/Propper-Handcuff-
Pouch-Single-Tt/dp/B071XWWDC1/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1494969814&sr=8-22&keywords=molle+handcuff+pouches

couldn't find one with a zipper

>>33980803
Dump pouch or GP pouch

>>33980968
I think both of those are too big for his purposes
>>33970565
as stated there

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>>33980958
that's great. thanks anon.

>>33980907
at the competitions i shoot you're only allowed to load the required number of rounds. if i lose a live round in case of clearing a malfunction i'm allowed to reload between stages. so everybody puts a few rounds in their pockets "just in case".

>>33980968
i have a HSGI dump pouch but it's too big.

>>33980863
why is all your advice so bad? the level 4 PCU jacket isn't even supposed to stop rain, it's a fucking windshirt you wear INSIDE your softshell jacket. all it does is keep wind from getting into your insulation/base layers

>>33981309
>why is all your advice so bad?
Its an internal meme, you wouldnt get it.