https://www.armytimes.com/articles/ army-uniform-board-to-co

>consider
This means nothing
No one cares. Class As are not a weapon.

Please.

The current uniform is so ass. What was the point of changing uniform?

>>33958704
>colonel, you may keep your sidearm
i always liked that scene

>>33958704
Although I understand the significance behind the current Army uniforms, pink and greens are just plain better looking. I wouldn't even mind the previous greens returning at this point.

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If you've ever worn greens you'd remember they looked boxy as hell.

>>33958859
To cater to the current generation of lazy ass kids who don't know how to take care of a uniform.

>>33959017
Officers were smart enough to get them fitted. Not their fault you were retarded.

>>33958704
he'll always be "office space guy" to me

well i wouldnt say ive been missing it, bob

>>33958859
Morale, the took a poll and 75% preferred the pink and greens to the bus driver uniform they currently wear

Only Marines are against this because they want to retain the only cool looking uniform. I actually prefer the pink and greens to the dress blues and I'm not in either branch

>>33959017
Goddam, the NVA will always look awesome to me.

>>33959050
>no boom boom with a mama san so she tailors your uniform
why even enlist

>>33958704
pls make it happen

>>33959194
But why did they change the uniforms to begin with?

>>33959383
Every decade or so some near-retirement office General wants to leave his mark, so he manages to pull some strings and get a drive to bring about a new uniform and the end result always looks like utter shit.

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>>33959050
Officers fitted is a real thing. But only if there was an actual difference between officer and enlisted uniforms.

The greens were literally the same between officers and enlisted whereas the blues now actually have a different cut. We have a slimmer leg and a closer fitting coat.

T. A mustang on the Army side

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>>33959409
Yeah fuck that shinseki guy

>>33958859
To make more money by constantly forcing soldiers to buy new uniforms

>>33959317
>NVA
Is this bait?

>>33959050
getting your uniform tailored is against AR670-1

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>>33959017
but boxy enough to look good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5GYlZKfBmI

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>>33960285
it's not. you're just retarded

you know this is the reason I love K you guys find the great history pics people forget about she escaped east Germany and the guards with thier p38 still staes down those donw with just a pistol

>>33960383
i guess as some sort of social thought experiment, on some level this shit is relevant. i'm just not sure where that level is or why it exists.

>>33958704
>>33958859
>mfw the blues will be remembered as 'obongo uniform'

I would enlist just to get one of those

>>33959409

Oh fuck you're giving me flashbacks to McPeak's Navy.

>>33958768
Did you even read the article or are you just always a whiny little piss ant?

>>33960453
Context?

>>33962841
East/West Berlin soldiers/border guards nearly shooting each other because someone made it across. Dudes on the right want her back. Dudes on the left don't want to give her back.

>>33962841
Just a guess, but it looks like the lady managed to run across what I would imagine to be the East German border into West Germany and the East German guards aren't one bit too happy about it.

/raises hand

What is the provenance of the name? I don't see any pink....

>>33962841

East berlin woman "defects" and escapes into west berlin. She is nearly caught but manages to get across the line and the soviet guards cant pursue because doing so would technically be considered an act of aggression which would not only get them shot instantly but would probably snowball into a conflict.

Pic is the woman on the west berlin side, with west berlin guards/police making sure the soviet guards dont do anything stupid while refusing to surrender the woman back to them because she would be likely executed. Soviet guards are clearly considering just smoking the lot of them because fuck that shit.

Obviously the soviets get talked down in the end and both sides go back to glaring at eachother.

>just made all that up but i dont have a double digit iq so the context is fucking obvious

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>>33962933
>i dont have a double digit iq
single digit?

>>33958704
Why is it called "pinks and greens"? Emphasize on the pink

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>>33958704
Oh yes.

>>33962916

Phil is a giant cum-guzzling pedophile but I have the same question.

Where is the pink in pink and greens?

>>33962841
Typical German civility.

Honestly, if the AF went back to pinks and greens I wouldn't mind. Much better than our current bus driver suit right now.

Also that leather pistol belt.

JUST GO BACK TO FUCKING DRESS GREENS AND NEVER FUCK WITH IT AGAIN

>>33960368

Getting your utes is, not your blues.

>>33963234
It's a misnomer on the tie color

>>33962916
>>33963040
>>33963269
>>33963538
>Officer's coats were made from a beautiful high lustrous 19oz wool elastique fabric which was always dyed in a dark shade of OD #51 sometimes referred to as "Chocolate". Trousers were usually made from the same high quality elastique but dyed in a shade of Drab #54 sometimes referred to as "Pink". This contrast between chocolate and pink was also at times referred to by the veterans as "Pinks and Greens".

>>33963576
>referred as pink
>>nothing is actually pink

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>>33958704

I don't get why this is so hard. Go to an OD green field uniform for the majority of troops. Bring back the dress greens which were sexy as fuck. And adopt a utility uniform like this. Cause I can say with absolute certainity that most soldier during the week could wear a middle of the ground uniform for most tasks.

>>33963611
That looks absolute conscription tier.

>>33963611

>mfw I have a Corporal Campbell

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most soldiers aren't thin enough to have a narrow waist. which will make the uniform look less impressive.

really, the blue service uniform could be improved a lot just by removing half the pinned on devices and embroidery on the lapels. a belt, and embroidered epaulets.

>>33959017
>dem negro stares
COLONIZED

>>33962933
I didn't rocks could use Lemurian runecutting slabs.

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If they want to wear blues at least do it right.

>>33958704
That would be especially awesome if they keep the "Eisenhower Jacket" as an optional part of the uniform as I don't believe it wasn't part of the original issue.

>>33963844

That literally looks like they just grabbed some farmers and ranchers and threw a couple official-looking things to put on over the clothes they just got done slopping pigs with.

>>33964350
* I don't believe it WAS part of the original issue

>>33958704

That's some stylish shit right there. Might as well have a "panty dropper" pin under the paratrooper one.

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>>33958704
Source on image?

>>33963776
> the blue service uniform could be improved a lot just by removing half the pinned on devices and embroidery on the lapels

This. Having one metric buttload of medals for no fucking reason was even used as a tool for mocking other people's leaders.

Can we bring back the OD tactical jumpsuit? So aesthetic.

>>33958980
Ditto.

Current Class B and A look like fucking Air Force shit.

I just wish they would cut back on all the chest candy, because it gets to looking pretty stupid.

At least shrink the bar ribbons.

>>33964362
Gee whiz it's like they wanted durable and comfortable clothing that was easily and cheaply sourced for soldiers to wear for days-weeks at a time.

>>33964992
top 3 awards only.
>only if you qualify expert on a weapon do you wear a badge.
no more driver badge
>unit awards only if you were in the unit when it was awarded and have it permanently.
>no more regimental crest
no more unit crest
>no more deployment badge
no drill sgt, recruiter, etc badge. unless you are actually on that job. on the female jacket we shrink it and move up to wear the regimental crest was. because having badges on the waist looks like ass.
>everyone uses the officer branch device for the lapel. using the same location on the lapel as officers, for the enlisted.
remove the upper arm rank patches. proper shoulder boards with rank slipped on.
>the green leadership piece of felt from the epaulets is now a piece of felt that goes over the top jacket button and tucks in.

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>>33964842
>Current Class B and A look like fucking Air Force shit.

The fact you had multiple people looking at this in the final stages of development and saying
>Yeah, this looks fine
is nothing short of mind boggling.

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>>33962933

daily reminder the marxist schools and media are
whitewashing history

>>33963385
Greens looked like trash

>>33963611
This looks like it belongs on an underage third world conscript

>>33966010
And this
>>33965842
Looks better?

Greens were iconic, they were THE Army Dress Uniform. Not as memorable as USMC Blues but I'll be damned if anything in the US will have such presence.

>>33958704
>https://www.armytimes.com/articles/army-uniform-board-to-consider-bringing-back-iconic-pinks-and-greens-uniform

>Dan Daly references the Marine Corps

Go fucking figure.

>>33965783
Gee whiz it's like you don't know what a dress uniform is for

>>33964706
Source is from band of brothers hbo show. I dont mind the pink and greens. Just glad we dont have to use ucp anymore, current asu's aren't too great either.

>>33966034
I think it would look fine if they didn't blouse their boots with fucking dress pants like retards. Also if they just made the shirt smaller (shorter sleeves) and wore shirt stays like marines do in khakis. I don't get the army's aversion for shirt stays, they bring everything together and make it look crisp as fuck.

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>>33965818
>getting rid of sleeve rank
>getting rid of collar disks

>>33966176
less sewing. enlisted and officers have their rank in the same place. less sewing. less patch edges to fray and need trimming.

collar disks don't let anyone see your branch unless you are close.

>>33958704
Easily the best looking US Army uniform ever used, followed by the Greens. The Blue ASUs look like Air Force assclownery.

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>>33966252
>>33966034

Blues are the original army uniform

>>33965818
>Removing sleeve rank patches
Fucking leave

>>33966327
Army of the Union had some class, and even the infantry was looking badass, but then we was left with just the guys wearing blue pants, blue shirts, and a goddamn hat.

>>33963844
Does this looks like armed forces to you? Literally Mexico tier. No, wait. Even the Mexicans had better uniforms back then.

>>33965783
Gee whiz its like you think some shit like that would be a suitable replacement for any of our uniforms under any fucking circumstances. Might as well just starting pinning nametags and rank on carhartt jackets and wrangler jeans, because that's how stupid you sound.

The uniforms are cool, and they had a time and place, but that time is not now, and the place is not here.

>>33966091
I don't know anyone in the army who has an issues with shirt stays, we just dont wear class Bs nearly as much as marines do (I assume). If its every day work wear, then its OCPs. If its more formal, then class As. You'll probably see class Bs more often in TRADOC or pog units as "office wear", but even then its usually OCPs.

>source: am in army

>>33966186
Sleeve rank for enlisted is literally the only sewn on piece of the uniform, and even then that's only class As. If your shoulder sleeve insignia is "fraying" that much, you either a) tried to have a blind ape sew it in for you or b) wear your dress uniform like everyday, and if thats the case then fucking pogs can kick rocks it cost like 5 dollars to have it done right and this if you can't do it yourself.

>>33958704
Open question to anyone that served, do you actually give a shit about the dress uniform? Is there a compelling reason to keep it at all?

I know that its meant to be a training tool and a source of morale but there are other tools that could take its place. Did the morale side do it for you?

>>33968043
Didn't care for it other than pre-deployment photos. My unit hardly ever wore ours because we'd schedule ranges/fields at the beginning of each month to avoid having to dress up. I guess they'd be fine for balls and events but I made it 5 years without ever having to go to one.

>Army goes back to pink and greens
>Still manages to fuck it up in the process
>Everyone wants to go back

>>33968111
Even returning to THE greens would be better than sticking with blues

>>33958704
So what I'm reading here is that the pink and greens would essentially replace the blues for everything except really formal events?

>>33962933

Those aren't Soviet troops, they're East German Volkspolizei (which was essentially the proto-NVA before rearmament)

>>33968043
Its honestly nice to be able to clean yourself up, put on a dress uniform, and have a few beers with coworkers at some type of formal event/celebration. I know guys that don't like it, but it happens so few and far between (once, maybe twice a year?) that its not that big a deal. It might sound stupid, but most guys I know like to puff out there chest and peacock around just a bit every now and then.

Now any more than that though, it becomes a chore and it seems like command is milking the dress uniforms for "look at my professional unit" points. Thank God it doesn't happen like that in most infantry units though.

>>33968146
No, itd be more of just another alternative since the Army is super linear when it comes to uniforms (I.e.Training? OCPs. Formal? Class As. In between? Take the coat off.). Navy and Marine Corps, for example, have like a billion different uniforms, so itd be aomething along the lines of that.

Plus, they wouldnt phase out Blues just yet on account of just changing to them in the past couple of years.

>>33967898
You forgot the service and overseas stripes sewn to fore arms.

>>33958704
>reversing the awful decision of making the ASU the "all purpose" dress uniform
>pretending the same survey didn't happen 8 years ago and 75% of respondents voted to bring these back and ASU's were at 0% but we got them anyway


I hope to hell this happens. ASU's are retarded and should have never happened.

>>33968548
Oh yeah whoops. Good catch anon.

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>89 posts
>nobody chooses the objectively most aesthetic Army uniform of all time

>>33967878
Pre 9/11 damn near every unit worse Class B's on either Friday or Monday depending on the unit and it was the every day uniform for TRADOC POG's and many other POG's/recruiters/DC shits/ect. It sounds like we're trying to go back to something like that which IMO isn't the worst thing in the world as long as soldiers who need it are provided with the funds to have more than one uniform.

t. I'm old

>>33958704
Makes sense to me, it is iconic, and I think the earth colors make more sense for the Army than the blue and white and black, which make more sense for the Air Force and Navy.

>>33969028
Yeah, because wearing puttees would be SOOOO fun.

>>33969054
Wearing Bs often costs too much money and time. Especially if you are single.

ACUs for everyday wear. Dress uniforms for ceremony and other special events only.

Lower enlisted don't make enough to bother deducting grooming and uniform expenses either.

>>33963576

What the fuck does that mean in English? The light brown pants are called "pink" just to be difficult?

>>33959017

Not the same uniform.

>>33958704
Need to get rid of the faggy beretts, we are not fucking french. Green berrets are a exception but forcing it on everyone is fucking bullshit.

>>33965842
it's the blousing that truly blows the mind. how tasteless did the guy who suggested that bullshit have to be?

>>33972358
What is wrong with blousing?

>>33963234
Who Dat?

>>33972440
Lieutenant "Buck" Compton, E/506 PIR

>>33959194

>Only Marines are against this

I OBJECT.

I at least want the Army to look gangster as fuck whenever they've got to suffer through parades.

>>33972393
Don't be thick, you take a look at the picture he's referencing and take a good goddamned guess at what's wrong with it in this instance.

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>>33972393
Nothing's wrong with it inherently, when done right, blousing can look aesthetic as fuck. >>33965842 is not an example of that.