/MSG/ Milsurp general anyone? So I've got a weird situ

Probably bubba but still would be neat

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>>33945196
Yes, there is some of those known. They are pretty rare. I don't know of any in the US.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?706962-Original-Mosin-Nagant-M91-30-rifle-with-folding-bayonet&highlight=bayonet

>>33945439

I actually found that thread after I posted. I'm gonna swing by and maybe snag one tomorrow. I'll post here if I get it.

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>>33945471
You should post pics of it on that thread when you do.

>>33945504

I might just do that. If these are real...Fuck, I'm told they have 2 of them, if they look real I might have to buy both.

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>>33945196
Ah weekend milsurp...

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>tfw still looking for a Berthier 1907-15 with 3 shot mag
one of these days. one way or another i want a WW1 dated berthier or lebel, those german lines arent going to take themselves

>>33945568
Gander still has a matching m16 berthier for 350. Mislabeled as an enfield. I'm going to wait to the bitter end no one is going to know what that gun is

>>33945701

Except you just told a few hundred people.

>>33945704
Didn't tell you which gander

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>>33945872
They all have phones.

>>33945889
There's like 130 stores in the country and someone's going to call every single one to identify a Berthier mislabled as an Enfield?

>>33945889
How did you make your stocks look so good anon?

Still waiting on my M39, any cheap nugget food still around.

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>>33945568
Yeah I wish I had bought one back when no one wanted them.

>>33946259
Wanna buy mine? I don't shoot surplus ammo anymore.

Does this count as milsurp? FCG and receiver are new, but the rest of it is pretty much all from the parts kit. Original barrel with a welded extension.

I am going to SBR it and get a parts kit with an original barrel and the slanted shroud without the compensator

Haven't even shot it yet

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>>33947061
Goddamn it

>>33946259
Not online, but sometimes gun shows and armslist will have a deal

>>33947033
Not him. What's your price?

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>>33947061
I have one and have shot it.

The cross bolt that holds the recoil spring keeps snapping on mine and rendering it inoperable.

>>33947093
Damn, that's not encouraging. I'm guessing that cross bolt isn't in the original design, but is a part of the semi auto only bolt?

>>33947093
Also I have two questions for you. Do your mags wriggle front to back, and is the charging handle supposed to kind of stick and lock to the back?

>>33947134
It's part of the semi auto conversion.
That open dick shaped channel shouldn't be there.
They milled it out to make space for the hammer to hit the free floating firing pin. Not sure if the back of the original bolts were hollow or not, but at any rate it's drilled straight through the back up to the firing pin. That cross bolt keeps the recoil spring from hitting the firing pin and interfering with the hammer, it's a cheap thin pin and I've received a replacement from TNW that has already broken again.

I may need a gunsmith to mill out a larger hole for a thicker piece of steel rod to be inserted.

>>33947145
Mine started sticking to the back after a while, I'm sure it's dirty and needs thorough cleaning or polishing, it shouldn't stick.
I've had to bang the gun on the floor to get the bolt to slam back forward.

My mags rock back and forth and side to side just a bit, I never had cycling or feeding issues in the gun except for with the drum mag which I'm sure just needs some tinkering.
But when that bolt snaps I get nothing but light strikes on the primers.

>>33947082
$0.30/rnd. Shipping would depend on how much you want obviously. I still have around 2000 rounds.

>>33947348
I don't get paid until monday but definitely want to buy. Do you have any crates or cans?

My email [email protected]

>>33947027

The mourning cry of Milsurp General.

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>>33947460
Indeed it is.
>>33947408
Nope, no original packaging unfortunately. I got this long ago.

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I tool some more pictures of the crispy mauser

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>>33948773
I might start taking new pictures of all my surp on this wall.

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>>33948784

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>>33948803

If anyone had plans on going to the milwaukee """""""""""gun""""""""" don't waste your time. Fuckers had about 5 guns and the rest was old nazi shit.

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>>33948773
Mauser eh?

>>33948885
Delavan is also horseshit

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>>33946255
>How did you make your stocks look so good anon?
By not messing with them.

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>>33948920
I really want a g98 but I can never find any locally that aren't WAY

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>>33948773
>>33948784
>>33948803
>>33948816
Mmmmauser.

>>33948920
>Mauser eh?
Jah.

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>>33949025
I just couldn't say no. Yeah it's been sanded and refinished but it's a 1906 Mauser brand Mauser. I had to have it.

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>>33949081
I don't mind some sanding, as long as it's not overdone. It's less of a negative to me than having a cracked stock or bad metal

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>>33949559
I don't mind it sometimes but I definitely don't wanna pay full price for a refinished gun.

Oh well, it's still a very nice rifle. I'm happy with it.

>>33949612
that is a gew98 carbine right?

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>>33950010
That one is a Kar98az. So short answer yes, but if you want to be pedantic then no.

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>>33949081
It's one less that'll be fucked up in our lifetimes. People still want to take all-original Mauser military rifles and sporterize them.

>>33950068
I see. I cant keep ww1 shit straight for some reason.

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Hopefully I'll get to shoot mine in a bit. Finaly found some cheap 8mm in the right grain range. They say the Yugos like 196-198.

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>>33950138
Well it's German so obviously their designation is going to be convoluted and rife with pedantry.

>>33950284
What'd that run you? Saw one at a gun show for like $1400 thought the guy was out of his damn mind

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>>33950467
$700. 1400 is a little high but not out of the ordinary these days. Depending on condition obviously.

OP here, in a move that I'm sure will shock you all it turns out that the person I was getting the information from was just retarded.

May have cost me a chance at a decent Garand with a bayonet for under $1000 too. On the other hand I found a local, monthly gun show that I'm going to be attending every time now. They have a Jungle Carbine, a couple trapdoors, a trapdoor carbine and the aforementioned Garand. Hopefully that's normal.

>not buying your garands from the cmp

I never got why people did this

>>33951605

Because the CMP is out of stock of everything except for drill rifles and M1Cs?

I'd love an M1C, but I'm not paying $1400 for a mid-grade gun.

>>33951605

Well, M1Cs AND Ds, but you get my meaning.

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>>33951557
Yeah that's about right for a shooter grade Garand.

>>33951772

Garand is high on my list ATM. I'm hoping to find one at the show next week or next month at the same place as today.

>>33948885
>>33948924
I told you bro

>>33951966
yeah you did, you going to union grove?

>>33952109
Nope. I don't go to any shows, they are never ever worth it. Occasionally I go to Waukesha for the hell of it b/c it's 10 minutes from my house and I know an FFL that goes there so I get in for free. But even that's usually a waste of time.

>>33952146
I hate them but I refuse to use gunbroker so I got limited options

>>33952204
Armslist, bro. I buy and sell a lot there.

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Has anyone run Yugo M75 surplus through their Hakim, how did it do? Is it too hot? How was the accuracy?

>>33952204

Why do you refuse to Gunbroker?

>>33952261
nonfree software

>>33952250
They used that ammo on IV8888's recent Hakim video. It seemed to work fine. As always start with you Hakim at zero and work your way up.

>people keep falling for the classic firearms Jew
When will it stop

>>33952607
When they stop making it so easy to buy their guns. I would buy a k31 though if they ever get anymore. Dont feel like getting bent over by some fudd for that

Looks like I'm gonna win a 91/59.

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>ross rifle supposed to be delivered today
>it's fucking 6pm

WAKE ME UP

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>>33952723
It's not over until it's over chief.

You all ever wonder that when the boomers start dying off in mass if our guns are going to depreciate? I mean they have a ton of them so more will be available and there will probably be less interest in them as well just in general.

>>33952782

I'm honestly not 100% certain I want to win it anyway. I want a Mosin carbine, but I'd prefer an M44 actually, I bid on the 91/59 because it was cheap and then it jumped right up to the max I'm willing to put on it and has stayed there for a couple days.

>>33952829
Nope, there are plenty of people in their 20s/30s who are buying those guns at current prices.

>>33952839
Once you shoot a m44 and a m38/m91/59, it's no contest that no bayonet is better. I have a 1943 m38, sold off my 2 m44s, no regrets.

>>33952829

Perhaps, but I'm not really in it as an "investment" anyway.

My concern is actually that a fuckton of the nogunz are gonna be put in charge of the estates of those people and trash them, leaving us with fewer to choose from.

>>33952851

Did you shoot it with the bayonet extended or folded? I've heard that shooting with it folded fucks up your aiming.

>>33952852
>My concern is actually that a fuckton of the nogunz are gonna be put in charge of the estates of those people and trash them, leaving us with fewer to choose from.

even nogunz people know they are worth some money

>>33952877

I think you give them too much credit. Also I'm more talking about the anti-gunz really.

>>33950072
Careful, that's how Gews mate, through the lange viziers.

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>>33952839
Just keep hunting man. Milsurp collecting is, first and foremost, about patience. It took me 10 years to get the SVT I wanted. 3 years for my 1895. But you have to have paitence.

Mosin carbines are fun though. Sound more like cannons than rifles.

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>>33953031
Hmmm I wonder what would spawn between my Gew 98 and my Peruvian 1891...

>>33953216

Well I won it, so that's over either way. Also there was an SVT at one of the gun shows I was at today. I technically had enough shekels to buy it, but it would have cleaned me out, and I have a lot of other guns I need to get first.

>>33953381
>even thinking about wasting your money on slav meme guns

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>>33953381
Never "clean yourself out" for a gun chief. Trust me.
>33953518 (you)
Riveting.

>>33953518

>implying we aren't all wasting our money here anyway.

>>33953590
well frankly I dont think we are. Most of these guns havent been made in decades and have nowhere to go but up

>>33953571

Oh I know. Unfortunately as a part-time working college student it's hard NOT to do that for any decent gun.

>>33953686

If you're viewing a an investment I'm...skeptical, but not against the idea. While it's true that supply and demand will likely push prices up there's no guarantee that demand won't deflate for some reason, cratering prices. Milsurp has little intrinsic value, most of it is decidedly inferior to what's available new, so demand relies on desire, which may not be permanently sustained.

For myself, and I suspect many others, investment isn't part of my mindset. I'm collecting for historical and fun reasons.

anyone got a martini henry?

thinking about picking one up on gb

>>33952865
Yeah it shot like a foot to the left

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>>33953795
yes
i loves my babies

>>33954026
wew

like the second from the top there. what am I looking at exactly?

>>33954103

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini%E2%80%93Henry

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>>33953518
Guilty as charged

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>>33952474
Thanks friendo, I'm not a huge fan of king fudd but I will give that video a watch

Hah. OP here, turns out the Mosin that the person I was talking to got is actually an original M91. So there was something nice there after all.

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>>33954926
What year?

>>33954972

1927, so it's probably a Finn.

>>33954557
I need to buy myself a Nagant. I've shot a few and I enjoyed all of them

>>33955006

https://rguns.net/shop/category/firearms-cr-rifles-and-handguns/

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>>33955006
Rguns still has some

>>33952877
They'll probably confiscate them and sell them to Mexican cartels

Lads, Im currently bored of shooting my SKS. Ever since I got an Ishapore 2a1, I feel like a bolt action is much more enjoyable to shoot than a semi auto. What deters me from selling it off and getting a k31 or something is the fact that 7.62x39 is cheap and that the SKS is my first gun, so theres sentimental value. What would you fellas do? Or if there's someone out there who's been in a similar situation, what did you do?

>>33955085

I would keep it. I sold my SKS to my dad and I keep thinking about trading my AR to him to get it back. Alternately I'm thinking about snagging a yugo.

>>33955114
It is a '52 Tula refurb, so theres that. Given that almost all I see out there are yugos and norincos, I see another reason to hang on. I dunno, maybe the milsurp bug has got me good and I don't have enough disposable income to keep up. Like christ the K31 and M1 Garand are certainly on my list, but just today I saw JG sales has Argentine Mausers with Mannlicher stocks and I was almost drooling at the aestetics.

>>33955044
I plan on buying one in awhile. Shame the ammunition is retarded

>>33955160

I know the feel. I want everything, even the things there's very little reason to want.

I need to check to see what my old SKS is, I THINK it's a Norinco.

Whats the most aesthetic bolt action? Ive already got an m39 and a no.4 enfield

>>33955280

That's a personal decision bro.

I personally think the SMLE No.1 Mk IIIs look the coolest.

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>>33955180
$18-$26 a box of 50 isn't really all that bad. Surplus is even cheaper

>>33955291
Different guy than him, but can somebody post pics of No 1 MkIIs that they own? I love me some British milsurp.

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>>33955085
Keep the SKS, buy a K31 anyways. Or a Mas 36.

For a long time my SKS bored me too. Now it's one of my favorite guns.

>>33955198
>>33955332
Thanks, fellas. Really appreciate the kindness.

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>>33955326

Will an Aussie work for you? It's a bit blurry, but you can probably still fap to it.

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>>33955326
yes
i loves my babies

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>>33955381
my .22 SMLE is an Aussie

>>33957372

Hot.

>>33957524

Uuuuuuuunf!

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>>33957543

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got a WW1 Aussie hand crumpet too

I'm looking for an Ari with Monopod, airplanes, mum, and dust cover, all matching.
With and without the mum, what'd I be looking at for fair prices?

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>>33958346
I paid like $225 for mine about 6 months ago, but its duffle cut under the barrel band.

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>>33958346
Those usually go for around $1000 in the condition you mentioned. Be sure it's ALL MATCHING though.

>>33958533
Oh, another question for you.
I spotted a 1892 (like pictured) in rather nice condition with the cavalry ring on it (everything matches except the bolt).
Is 275 a good price or am I getting bamboozled.

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My immediate want list is getting pretty short guys. All I need is an Enfield, one American one "British", a 1903, an M1 carbine and a Garand and I'll be moving on to the secondary list.

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>>33958562
That's less than I paid for mine, so yeah that's a pretty fair price. Though mine is an all matching antique.

Be aware though that ammo and clips are pretty expensive if you're looking to shoot a lot.

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>>33958346
Mine >>33945504 was $500, but it didn't have an intact mum. It's an uncommon manufacturer though. Realistically with the original sling in all it's probably closer to $800 - $1000 in value.
>>33958562
What do you mean by cavalry ring? All Berthiers have the sling ring. Does it have the stacking rod or the clearing rod?

>>33958927
Has a cleaning rod, yeah, Sling ring, not cavalry ring I'm not a clever man.

Urushi experimentation continues. I got a real tube of genuine raw urushi to compare next to this cashew stuff. I just don't have a humitidy box, and the chances of it being 75-85% humidity in southern idaho is nearly null.

However i can confirm i'm 100% immune to the itchy scratchys.

>>33958598

My short terms goals are:

Carcano
Garand
MAS 36
Arisaka (pref Type 38)
'03 Springfield
1866 Trapdoor
Complete Krag/rebuild my sporterized one
M14 clone

>>33959148
I wish my short list was that affordable

SVT
G41
AG42
Luger Carbine
Lewis Gun
nazi marked ppk in .32acp
complete my project guns (Kar88, Stomperud Krag, 1903a3, 1915 Beretta)

>>33959082
Clearing, not cleaning. It was only used to push out stuck cases. That's why they got rid of them in the 1920s. So they're uncommon to find originally like that.

>>33959367

Notice I said short-term. Also I forgot the K98k.

Medium term goals:

SVT
G41 (W)
G43
1917 Enfield
M44 and M38 carbines
Trapdoor carbine
M1 carbine
1941 Johnson
7.35mm Carcano
Type 99
Type 44
Original Henry
Original Spencer
Set of long rifles (M91, Type 38, long Lee-Enfield, G98, long Carcano)

Then there's long term goals, which amount to a complete set of WW2 and American cartridge firing guns.

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>>33959579
I have most of those

the Johnson is the most fun of them to shoot aside from the M1 Carbine

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>>33959579
M1917 is a close 3rd, followed by the M44/G43

I have 80 rounds of 7.35 and a Finn Caracano to go with it. its underwhelming. I brought it to midwest nuggetfest 2014 and havent shot it since

>>33959671

If I skin you, and wear the skin, do you think I would be able to take over your life? Asking for a friend.

>>33959699

I mean, let's face it, most of the milsurp guns are going to be underwhelming in practical use. If they were whelming we'd still be using them.

One of the ones in my long-term that I really hope I can actually find is a G41 (M), because having a bolt-action semi-auto would be delightful.

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I can't even list most of my short term purchases because they're already difficult to find and someone here might snatch one up if I do.

Except for a M39 and a Type 44. Those I can mention safely.

>>33960207

Classic Arms still has M39s in stock. The crack on mine is in front of the magazine.

>>33960366
No, I'll pay more for one that isn't from them and isn't cracked. Good looking out though.

do auction on gunbroker usually jump at the end?

First time im ever bidding on something and its been pegged there for a few hours with a couple of hours to go

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>>33960524
Yes, yes they do. Just bid what you're willing to pay though and it doesn't matter.

>>33960524

depends on the rifle and how common it is. I have seen Lebels, M1 garands, m1 carbines, mas 36s ALL sky rocket in price over the span of maybe 6-7 hours.

meanwhile I have seen arisakas, ross rifles, and a couple others just have 1 or 2 bids and that's it.

>>33960524

Most of the ones I've watched (which isn't many) have. Of course the one I just won stayed flat for 4 days starting about a half hour after I made my only bid. If the other person had put $5 more in I'd have tapped out.

Speaking of GB.

>Interested in a decent auction
>Current price is very low
>Toss in a moderate bid, expecting it to be overdone already
>Bid goes up by $5 and I'm winning

Fingers crossed.

>>33960524
i just bought a matching swedish mauser for under what I was told was the average price range and it sat for 6 hours unchanged before it ended

that was a rough 6 hours

>>33960720
Nice, whatd you pay for it?

>>33945196
anyone have aa mannlicher m95? the embloc clips kind of turn me on and now I'm interested in one, weren't they pretty cheap a few months back?

>>33960773
$400

was told to expect a range between $450-600

>>33960924
years back*

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>>33960951
sheeeeeiiiiiiiiit

>>33961016

How I wish I could go tell my 18 year old self to buy milsurp...

>>33951772
Gross

>>33961020
same, I still want a hand nugget but I can never justify paying more than $99 for one

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>>33960924
I have one. Lots of fun if you like recoil and expensive ammo (or reloading).

So are gun shows a good place to start looking for milsurp. my lgs doesnt have any.

>>33961091
Yeah they are a good place to start. This stuff isnt all that easy to find anymore.

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>>33961091
It's a place to look. You won't find much most of the time, but deals are out there. That's where I find a lot of my stuff.

>>33961091

You can look, but it'll be hit or miss. I went to two gun shows yesterday, one small one put on by a local collector's group that had some boner-worthy guns and a TON of other random bits and bobs. The larger promoter-run one was mostly two major new gun retailers, but one of them had a handful of old guns including a Mosin and an SVT.

I'm still kicking myself for missing out on the Garand in the first one.

Holy crap guys. Just won a ljungman on gunbroker. pretty excited got it at a good price too shockingly.

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Gats 'n' guitars.

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>>33961760
Grats man. Pics when?

>>33961760
Inb4greyblanket

On gunbroker do the sellers contact you after the auction? and if so how long have you all had to wait? First time I ever even bid on anything
>>33961928
Whenever I get it I guess. The auction ended maybe 30 minutes ago.

>>33962022

I usually contact them immediately if I can, let them know the timeline I expect to send the payment in and what format (if they accept different ones). I usually send them the FFL info right away too.

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>>33962022
Sometimes within minutes, sometimes it's the next day. But yes, they contact you. You should have gotten a email from gunbroker by now with the sellers contact email though.

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>>33961771

Hey guys, I picked up a Lee Enfield from a pawn shop for a dime. Looks in great condition, gonna give it a cleaning - how do I figure out how to classify it? (I.e. Which model, what year, etc.)

>>33962391
post pic(s)

>>33962391

how the fuck did you get a lee enfield for a 10 cents?

>>33962415
Kek nice try
>>33962406
Sweet will do in a bit

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>>33960006
i dunno man, most of the milsurp ive shot is pretty sweet and if anything, exceeds expectations.

but the 7.35 carcanos feel like you're shooting squibb loads. i can see why everyone hated them. I would not want to take one into combat.

>>33962301
>Gew98
>Cat
You and I are friends now.

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Anyone knows what the "L T" means on my Finn M91 stock?

>>33962391
>>33962406

Just uploading pics now, on the side it says III* 1916, does that mean it was made in 1916 or is that just the original design date

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>>33962539
It's a Mark III model, the "*" means wartime-simplified variant. 1916 is date of manufacture.

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>>33945196
This is the newest thing i got, this count? Took the picture for an atf thread, so that's why the bottle's there.

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>>33962596
Also this, My Enfield Revolver

>>33960366
Please stop falling for the classic jew

>>33962569
Nice, that's cool, thanks man

>>33962640
I fell for Classic Jew

Ordered a K98 stock for my postwar czech k98, 8 days later it hasn't shipped and my order gets put "on hold"

I deserve it.

>>33962526
Some dumb soldiers initials

>>33962640

Make them stop putting stuff I want on their site then.

>>33962702
A k98 is a polish gun

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>>33962706
>yfw

>>33962715
Stop paying their stupid prices. Gunbroker is a thing.

>>33962720
kar 98, whatever

>>33957689
Oh bubba no

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>>33962758
yea one of the importers did that to a shitload of them.

fun as fuck to shoot though, its friends with my colt detective special.

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>>33962596
this is now a best pistol thread

>>33962022
Most people are pretty relaxed. As a buyer I usually give them up to 3 days to respond to the auction result.

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>>33962022
i always message the seller and ask to confirm payment address, form of payment and total with shipping.

helps prevent confusion and lets the seller know you're not a ghost bidder.

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just bought 100 rounds and a couple more enbloc clips for these two fuckers. hopefully enough of the rounds are good that I can shoot/reload them.

haven't shot them before and only have 6 rounds currently.

>>33963712
Where did you buy those items from? I'm looking at a Dutch rifle myself.

>>33963740
good ol' liberty tree got more in. i drug my feet on the last batch and regretted it...

since i just lost the 1903a3 receiver auction on Gunbroker it seemed like a nice consolation prize.

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>>33963802
Oh so it's surplus ammo then? Damn I was hoping PPU or PCI had some brass or loaded ammo.

So one of the guns on my list is an 1866 Trapdoor. I looked up .50-70 Government on GB and it's $10 or more per round.

When I get one I'm guessing I'm not gonna shoot it much...

>>33964268
geez

yeah I wouldnt

>>33964268
https://www.buffaloarms.com/50-70-sharps-black-powder-ammo-425-grain-512-lead-bullet-box-of-20-amo5070425b

>>33964308

I saw that, but I didn't see the part where it says it's compatible with .50-70 Government.

>>33964268
Get a '73. I love mine even though it /may/ pierce the priming cap 100% of the time.

>>33964360

I HAVE a '73. I still want a '66, and a '65, though I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one.

>trying to get into en bloc clip guns
>looking up carcanos
>find this one on GB:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/645250478

it's a full length carcano that seems pretty nice barring the checkered pattern. would it be worth to try out a carcano? I like these en bloc clip style guns.

>>33964651
$150 isnt a lot of money to spend on a gun. But it is too much to spend on that gun.

>sporterized carcanos

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You can keep only 1 rifle in 8x57, what do?

>>33964920
my byf44

>>33964920

I only HAVE one in 8mm, so I'd keep my M48.

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Just made my first gun purchase. 1891 Argentine Mauser, in great condition (few scrapes and dents, most of the metal is still blued and beautiful) Paid $250 for it.

Going to the range to shoot it tomorrow. Anyone else have one, what's your opinion on it?

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matching number m44 for glock 43 +$50
my first nagant, should I?

>>33965533

It's a Mauser, so it's probably pretty decent.

>>33965566

You can probably get one cheaper than that without much trouble, but if you want it then go for it.

>>33965566
I don't see it as just money, I see it as the simplest/cheapest way to get a deer rifle for a 6+1 9mm I never carry.
the fact it has more style than a bolt action off Walmart shelf is just a plus.

>>33965758

Well I don't think the price is too far off, so if you're not looking to keep the Glock then I don't see a problem.

>>33965902
I will admit it is the most preferred (barely) pocket gun I have ever owned,
But I am not a fan of the whole idea.

I guess i"ll make my question more specific.
will I become tired/bored of it the first time I sight it in, Or later carting it miles trailing a big buck I know I got a solid hit on?
Any experience hog hunting with 7.63x54R?

>>33966025

I just won my own Mosin carbine and I've never hunted beyond shooting rabbits in my yard with a .22 or .223. I can't really answer either of those beyond saying I've seen people hunt hogs with an air rifle, so I'm pretty sure that a Mosin will succeed.

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>>33966025
If you make a solid hit, you won't trail it far.

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>>33964920
My 98az.

Does anyone have a collection of gun history/identification books? I just ordered The .45-70 Springfield and I'm wondering if there's an /MSG/ type dump somewhere.

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>>33965533
>just bought one for 200 maplebux
>condition is far worse

I have a sporter with all the original bluing intact and now an original intact one with all the bluing fucked up. I think I'm going to get the metal redone because some asshole ruined the bluing with sandpaper, and it breaks my heart to see it all scraped and rusted.

>>33966392

B-b-b-but patina!

>>33953216
THIS RIFLE IS BEST RAIFU

>>33955085
Get a Steyr M95 before the BF1 kiddies turn 18

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>>33964158
yea its surp, but its brass cased surp - which is huge case ive only see steel cased 6.5 before.

>>33961314
Are gun show guns usually more expensive than a good deal you can find online? Or are they themselves "good deals"?

>>33966596

It's no different than GB IMO, you'll find good stuff and not so good stuff. I was going to buy a Garand with bayonet for somewhere around $1000 yesterday but the show closed before I got back. That's a decent price. Then you'll find people selling guns for 4 times their real value.

The advantage of gun shows is that you're bidding against a handful of people, instead of something like GB where you're bidding against the entire country.

They're worth going to if you're looking for milsurp, but they won't replace online sources.

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>>33966443
It is pretty nice. Definitely one of my favorite to shoot.

>>33945196

Have you considered someone may have just put the bayonet on the muzzle backwards, and it LOOKS like a side folding bayonet?

Hey /k/apt, I'm interested in taking some surplus nug food off your hands. Email me, [email protected]

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>Trying to save money for college
>The Milsurp Bug is back
>Suddenly want to buy either a mauser or another Mosin so I have a full length one
>mfw
I don't like shooting my brother's Mauser and I already have my 91/59, just leave me alone, I can't afford this right now

>>33967036
I know that feel anon, every time I look at surplus rifles I complete forget that there are more important things I need to save for.

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>>33959148
J&G has some type 38s in right now

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>>33964920
>You can keep only 1 rifle in 8x57, what do?
Keep my first one.

>>33965566
No pls no. Jesus Christ where were you when I was selling my m44.

>>33953216
What was it about that SVT that convinced you to buy it?

>win a auction on gb at like 5 last night
>email them and I still haven't heard anything back

Reee

>>33968035
Friend of mine got a g43 last year for like 700 bones. I was beyond jelly. No mag though

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>>33967961
I wanted the early features and didn't want a plum bolt. Mine has the 6 port muzzle break, the receiver rail for accepting a scope (superfluous as it may be) and even the standard stock. And it's a Finn capture which is cool.

>>33968253
Was it complete besides the mag?

Did he get a shooters kit from apfeltor?

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>>33968253
i do have 2 extra mags.

not really looking to sell, but if the offer is right Ill take it.

>>33965566
no dont be stupid, thats a $300 gun at best

>>33966025
the bayonet would come in handy for hog hunting i would think. the caliber is more than enough for any hog smaller than a polar bear

>>33969585
No it was from some old ladies attic or something. He got it from a friend of his or something. Afaik it's complete aside the mag and maybe the rear sight

>>33969636
How do you even wind up with extra magazines for something like this?

>>33961016
i think i got mine for 60 bucks back in the day. i still occasionally see them up for private sale in classifieds for $120 - $150, they are still a good deal at that price

>>33960665
how much longer until you know when you win? usually the price goes up exponentially in the final couple minutes when people actually start bidding


also make sure it doesnt have a reserve. for some reason, fudds are obsessed with setting reserves on their milsurp auctions. i message them asking their reserve price and if they refuse to tell me i dont bother, and i always tell them to cut that bullshit out because it just pisses off buyers. just start the auction at the cheapest price you can live with letting the gun go and stop being a faggot

>>33960928
$300-500 is normal depending on condition and matching numbers. the low end being a mismatched shooter with some wear vs the higher end being excellent condition with all matching

>>33968253
the mags are like $400 alone

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>>33962526
Took her out today, shoots great. Can't really see but the old Imperial russian measurement has been struck through on the sight and replaced with metric starting at 2 meters.

Paid $250 for it at Cabelas. Was that a decent price for a Finnish M91? I honestly don't know.

VKT marked for anyone interested.

>>33970095
$1100 would have been a steal also

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>>33970125
>Paid $250 for it at Cabelas. Was that a decent price for a Finnish M91? I honestly don't know.
>VKT marked for anyone interested.
Yeah, $250 is a good price these days. How many parts match the barrel serial?

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>>33970125
>Won't be able to go shooting until July at the earliest.
Fucking everyone taking vacations. I wanna shoot my m91 and other stuff in gonna buy.

>>33970163
>July

You're living in hell.

>ross mk 2 in the store now

OH LORD YES

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>>33970213
It's just bad timing. I have to go visit my in-laws in June, so there goes my chance for time off then. And in July I'm going to see Metallica so that's 2 days off so really I probably won't get to shoot until August.

>>33970228
III>II

Like my guns dangerous

Has it been sporterized?

>>33966918

That's what it turned out to be, yes. The person I was talking to was just dumb.

>>33967206

I know. But I also have a bif in on GB for one. I don't expect to win, but I don't want to buy 2 ATM.

Thanks though.

>>33970066

A little over a day. No reserve. On the one hand the price may, and should, shoot up, on the other hand the 91/59 that I just got stayed level for the full last 48 hours.

The idea with low starts and reserves is to get people invested in the idea of winning the raifu so they bid more than they wanted to originally.

>>33970125

I'd pay $250 for one.

>>33970163

It's been raining almost constantly for the last 6 months here, so I haven't taken any of my new 'surp out. The weather is finally, slowly changing though, so soon.

I might try rabbit hunting with my Trapdoor Springfield.

>>33970249

nope. has some US infantry markings though. will post to see if anyone knows wtf they mean.

>>33970252
T. best Washingtonian?

If everything works out, my 1895 Chilean Mauser should get to my FFL tomorrow, I'll post some pictures.

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>>33970036
the rifles came with extra mags and parts.

i got scopes for them too

>>33970392
Geez

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>>33970357
Did you get one from Classic?

>>33970252
>It's been raining almost constantly for the last 6 months here

where in Washington you at senpai?

>>33947033
Do you still have any? And would I need any special license or anything like that to ship it?

>>33948885
What sorta Nazi shit was there?

Sent my payment for my 91/59, gonna be cool to have a Mosin Carbine.

>>33970276
>>33970477

SW Washington Master race.

>>33970510

Unless you live in a shitty place like California you can get ammo shipped to your door.

>>33970357

Inb4 people butthurt about you buying from Classic.

>>33970392
How much for one? If you were going to sell one?

>>33970547
Ok thanks mang. I saw mosin ammo at Scheels the other day for like 35$ for 50 rounds. Is that alot? Since I got 140 rounds for 40$ when I got my mosin this year.

>>33959579
I have..19/19 of those.


>>33959671
eat ass mine is nicer still.

>>33970810

http://ammoseek.com/

Check prices there. Don't forget shipping costs.

>>33970850

Well I've been collecting for about 3 months.

>>33970887
Oh, i stopped like 5 years ago I havnt bought a new gun in 4 years.

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>>33967036
>>33967059
one better
see nice mill serp in good condition at way lower then it shud be price
still cant get it cuz bills to pay
feels bad man

>>33970510
What state? And yes I still have plenty.

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What's the general consensus on the sub $200 Spanish Mausers being sold by J&G sales?

>>33971139
Luck of the draw. These were stored in a Miami warehouse for 30 years and these are the ones that SAMCO thought in too-poor condition to sell (though at the end there their business practices were very lazy and plenty of decent stuff was buried under junk). If it hasn't been eaten by rust it'll be fine.

>>33971183
Aye, thanks for the heads up.

>>33962569
So this one looks to be sporterized, I.e. it has the exposed barrel as opposed to having furniture on the top and bottom. Any way I can double check to make sure it's still chambered for .303 british?

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>>33971243
>Any way I can double check to make sure it's still chambered for .303 british?
Cast the chamber.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/barrel-blanks-tools/barrel-chamfering-accessories/cerrosafe-reg-chamber-casting-alloy-prod384.aspx

>>33971265
Cool idea. So I cast my chamber, after that how do I measure the result properly and exactly so I know it's the cartridge I'm needing?

>>33971317
>how do I measure the result properly and exactly so I know it's the cartridge I'm needing?

Calipers, then compare those dimensions to published specifications. However, if you compare it to an unfired .303 cartridge and they look about the same it's pretty safe to assume it's still .303; there just aren't that many cartridge conversions you can do with the .303 chamber that would still fit a .303 round in.

>>33971337
Fair point. Appreciate the help!

>>33971045

Not him, but how much are you charging?

>>33971353
$0.30/rnd

>>33971416
Different anon but im looking for some original mosin clips, you have any up for sale?


Which milsurp is the most fun to shoot? Enfield is my favorite right now but im looking to expand my collection

>>33971416

In the event that you still have any after the weekend I'll probably hit you up. Wanna keep my cash in my pocket for now in case something delicious is available.

>>33971444

>Which milsurp is the most fun to shoot?

Gatling guns.

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>>33971444
My m91/30 is a blast to shoot, and so are my mausers. As soon as the damn gas tool for the Hakim gets here I'm sure it'll be top tier range day fun

>>33971601
But .45-70 is too expensive for pseudo automatic, but im sure it would be better than sex.

>>33971615
Ive got an m39 thats pretty fun, i can't imagine its too much different than your m91. Mausers are ok, ive shot good ones and bad ones. Not sure which was which though

>>33971444
No clips for sale. And fun is subjective. But one of my favorites that's pretty easy to obtain is a Mas 36.
>>33971467
Oh I'm sure there will be plenty left.

>>33971045
I'm in South Dakota

>>33971777
No you don't need any license or anything like that. Just need to be 18 or older.

>>33971799

Cali requires background checks for buying ammo, not sure what that does for shipping.

>>33971815
Yes but south Dakota, AKA a state that actually deserves its star, does not.

>>33971665
Looks pretty nice. Hows ammo, reloading isnt an issue if i can find dies for it.

>>33971902
PPU makes it for roughly $0.75 a round, and dies are readily available for reloading. I use RCBS dies myself but Lee dies are cheaper.

>>33971879
I'm probably autistic, but what do you mean "deserves it's star"

>>33971930
.75 isnt the worst ive paid and ppu generally has nice brass. Id go with rcbs, ive had poor luck with every lee product ive tried.

>>33971937
I think hes implying that california does not deserve to be recognized as a state or have a star on old glory.

>>33971967
Ok thanks

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>>33947348
>>33947408
I got paid looking to get some ammo if you're still selling?

My email is [email protected] to work out the details

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>>33972659
Oh yeah you're the first guy that asked this thread.

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>>33961760
Great gun. Be careful, the handguard is a little weak
Pic is mine

>>33947163
Use quality rod, or machine the pin from a Grade 8 bolt.

>>33973243
What kind of ammo do you use in there? I was reading that it is very very picky about the ammo and to stay clear of certain kinds of surplus

>>33970459
Yeah, first gun I've gotten from them. I've heard some bad stories about them, but I couldn't pass one of those rifles up.

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here's the ross rifle:

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>>33973858

does anyone know what these markings mean?

also holy shit this bolt is smooth as hell.

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>>33973867

here is the prominent marking:

31.EN.CEF

either way these markings look cool.

Local shop has an Eddystone manufactured m1917 in good shape with goid bore for $750. Good deal?

>>33973867
The short, short answer is that those are unit and training markers, since the U.S. used them as training rifles. Also it designates which particular pattern and revision your rifle is.

Hope you love it boss, I was tempted to buy it many times.

>>33974244

>The short, short answer is that those are unit and training markers, since the U.S. used them as training rifles.

that is kick ass. thanks senpai.

>Hope you love it boss, I was tempted to buy it many times.

I love it. It needs cleaning though. I opened the chamber and there was a blob of copper fouling and there is just gunk build up everywhere.

>>33955035
>>33955044
I have heard horror stories about rguns and how they do business. are they /k/ approved?

>>33973920

From what I've seen, yes.

>>33974641

I've bought a gun from them and had no trouble.

>>33974803
most of the reviews that are pissed seem to be about AR's anyway.

Used to be on /k/ daily. Mosin daily. Go away for years. Came back today. Searched Mosin. Mfw

Boomp

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>>33955044
I got one of those as a Christmas present to myself and it is pretty damn cool. same date and manufacture as my 91/30: 1943 Izhevsk.

>I need a new family photo, all of mine are old af

>>33975323

Bump limit a while ago.

>>33975366

I need to take a full family photo in good lighting, a milsurp only photo and individual pics.

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>>33974641
I've gotten 2 guns and some ammo from them. The only thing I don't like is they don't give a tracking number unless you ask

>>33975760

Yeah, that was kinda annoying for me too. They're sorta...90s? I guess? Like they called me instead of sending an e-mail when they needed to check on my information.

>>33970850
>nicer

then post more pix in the milsurp thread, faggot