Would rounds used for carrying in bear country also be used for

>>33931877
what handgun should my gorilla carry to protect me from bears?

Glawk forte is a proven gorilla killer

>>33931877
If I was going into bear country, I'd for sure take a .45-70 rifle with me.

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>>33931887
>glawk fowty
in all seriousness you should carry a judge in 45-70.

>>33931877
Grizz would win, easy. Barnum used to put on bear vs lion shows, he had to stop because it was too expensive to import a new lion every time he put one on.

Meanwhile the fucking black bear was back on a unicycle the next day like nothing happened.

>>33931877
Yes because bear more bear.

Seriously, if it will stop a fucking grizzly, it will stop a gorilla

>>33931950
>Barnum Bear Vs Lion Show. please tell more

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10mm 200gr FMJ. Problem solved.

I hear Xtreme Penetrator is a nice bear round. There are vids of tests in .357 on jewtube.

>>33931877

All of the stats in the picture are wrong/incorrect in reference to the other stats.

>>33931950
>>33931951
>>33931877
>There are people in 2017 who think a bear can beat a gorilla
Gorilla would win hands down, it could probably tear the bear's fucking head off if it wanted too.

>>33932556

lolno
If tree bark was strong enough, bears would be able to run up trees like squirrels.
They commonly lift things twice a gorillas weight with one paw just to get at some food.

>>33932583
Gorilla has got way more flexibility in a fight, mother fucker has got hands, Bear has got paws sure but you can't grapple someone as easy with paws. Gorilla has also got way more strength,

>>33931877
I would say that if it can kill a grizzly it would do fine against a gorilla. I really don't see the gorilla as being harder to penetrate or more capable of shrugging off the damage.

Also I'm pretty sure the grizzly would leave the gorilla pretty rekt. I honestly don't really see how the gorilla could get to the vitals of the bear and if it gets down to a wrestling match the bear has it in the bag. I honestly don't see a gorilla being able to man handle 1000lbs of angry bone, muscle, and fur.

>>33932674
Gorillas also think they can use threat behavior on shit. A bear would fuck him up.

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>>33932556
you don't seem to realize the size difference between the two.

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>>33931877
22lr

kills everything dead

9mm if you need to step up your game

>>33932731
I dunno man, the gorilla still has the advantage in terms of pure strength and flexibility. Bear has the height and speed advantage and is debatable more durable,but I just can't see anything survive a beat down from something with so much strength in it's arms.

>>33932674

>Gorilla has also got way more strength,
kek
Go actually research this to find out how wrong you are.

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>>33931877
gorilla shoots bear, continues picking nose

Ahh the classic DPS vs Tank build. Neat.

Gorillas don't actually fight, just put up a big show. Bears charge right at you.

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>>33932843
And its handful if steak knives.

Bears are tanks, and would soak up blunt attacks. Gorillas don't seem to have the same sort of level of defense against these claws. Neither is going to have an easy time breaking the others body, but one swipe with those claws coming from a reach and height advantage.

Look at gorillas fighting each other and it's pretty sloppy. Would probably just barrel into the bear and begin to get shredded like a fool.

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>>33932556

>there are people out there who think that the gorilla would beat a bear as if it was hulk vs a dog

You watch too many movies. For one, Gorillas have LITERALLY been hunted down by much smaller felines. Gorillas are not predatory animals, they're a very timid and peaceful species unlike popular belief would have you think.

They don't have a predatory instinct, they're not hunters or scavengers. Sure perhaps if you put a human mind inside the mind of a Gorillas the "Gorilla" might have a chance if he knew MMA/KravMaga/Boxing etc, but they're stupid animals who would outright get killed by a much bigger natural predator who's been murdering and hunting since birth.

Gorillas aren't humans with superman strength, they're stupid animals who as I've said, have been hunted by much smaller felines than Tigers and Lions. They have no killer instinct. The only reason they don't get hunted even more often is that they stay in packs.

A lone Gorrilla vs a Bear is hilarious. You probably imagine that the Gorrilla is going to beat the Bear King Kong vs Dinosaur style like in the movies... awww you're retarded... how cute.

Imagine how strong gorillas and bears could be if they could go to the gym and be bodybuilders

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>>33932998
god damn

>>33933021
How effective would martial arts be on different animals?

>>33932900
Kek, i love you.

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>>33933033
[spoiler]this isn't even a grizzly bear, they're even bigger[/spoilers don't work on /k/]

>>33932870
this. there's no way a bear can operate a firearm with those paws

>>33932843

What do you think Gorrillas are? Trained Martial Artists with a high fight I.Q?

They're stupid animals. They're not predators. Bears have been taking down Moose and other bears their whole lives. You're going to tell me some non-predator animal with absolutely no killer instinct is going to Mike Tyson or Brock Lesnar an animal that weighs twice it's size with claws long enough to reach into vitals?

A gorilla can bite back in self defense. It wouldn't even know where to begin to bite like a bear would though.

What you're saying is the equivalent of putting a human vs a mountain lion... now take away all of the humans intelligence and give the mountain lion twice the weight size of an adult male and that's what's happening with the Gorilla vs Bear.

Gorillas are only more scary to humans from a psychological stand point. Bears look cute but they're far deadlier.

The gorilla would fuck a grizzly bear up. Have you seen those videos of gorillas fighting lions? They could pick those fucking lions up and throw them 10 ft.

>>33932583
Grizzly can't climb trees. You'd have to use a black bear, who is smaller and more agile and can actually climb trees.

Obviously the gorilla would win with it's superior intellect.

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>Obviously the gorilla would win with it's superior intellect.

>>33933039

Well if we're talking about legitimate martial arts that require you to train and get in the best shape of your life. It can only help you.

Humans have killed bears using their discipline and intelligence. A trapper once shoved his arm down a bears throat and choked it to death that way in a hand to paw struggle.

The stronger faster and more trained in movement one is the more chances they have of fucking up some lose bloodlust pitbull for instance.

Even with my MMA and MCMAP training I'd just shoot the animal. I'm not even going to risk disfiguring bites. But I'm sure a steel toed kick from a kickboxer per say would do way more than a kick from a flip flop wearing numale

>>33933098

It's superior intellect is generalized but in combat and hunting the bear has more experience in that department. Not to mention he's biologically a Predator.

>>33933084

Would those videos happen to be movies or videogames? As other people have stated, Gorillas are regularly subjected to predation by much smaller animals than bears or lions.

For those who think Gorillas are natures indestructible hulks, here, some simple research for you manchildren.

Leopards have been known to hunt and kill grown male Gorillas, it doesn't happen often but enough that it's a well known and documented fact.

A bear would obliterate one.

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>>33933209

Forgot pic

>>33933209
Have we had bear vs Leopard fights?

>>33932217
Fucking small time

How about a real battle for the ages?

Three-toed Sloth vs Emperor Penguin?

Battle is on land, but no trees are available.

>>33933230
Mountain lions are bigger and avoid grizzlies

>>33931950
Lions used to kill bears AND tigers in one fight

>>33933230

No but Mountain lions are bigger than Leopards and they stay away from Grizzlies for a reason

>>33933248
Emperor penguins can break a man's leg with their little bird kicks. A sloth would get owned.

>>33933381
That sounds like bullshit to me

What is denser/will stop a bullet more? Gorillas thick muscular chest or bears matted fur? What makes them so tough to penetrate?

>>33933279
>>33933230
A Jaguar vs Bear is a more suitable arrangement.

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>googling for pictures of grizzly bear size perspectives
>find this

>>33931877
>Vegetarian Strength: 4409 lbs
>Meat Eater Strength: 1102

Meat Eaters BTFO

>>33931877
I don't support animal fighting shit, but this thread really makes me want to see a grizzly fight a silverback.

>This fucking thread

>>33933051
Holy Fuck!

>>33934087
How the fuck did they measure this.

I seriously hope they didn't just measure pull off a handle

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how about one of these vs a grizzly

>>33933262
>Mountain lions are bigger and avoid grizzlies

not true. bears usually kill felines by biting their skulls which in comparison to a bear's are eggshell thin. Ursidae>Everything else

>>33934152
Gorilla did squats for leaves and bananas, Grizz did them for salmon and long dead carcasses. They just kept putting more weight on until they couldn't complete a squat with decent form.

>>33934174
install the program Lionesspredatoryprotocol.exe into a grizzly maybe

grizzly realistically wouldnt know how to approach this if it needed to, and it wouldnt on it's own

>>33934174
no land animal aside from elephants has the implements to hurt a grown hippo in an incapacitating fashion with one hit. meanwhile the hippo's bite will kill anything other than an elephant in one shot. the bear could kill it by means of a thousand cuts but the hippo isn't standing still for that.

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>>33934174
This is a much more even fight, but I'd have to give it to the Hippo.

Polar Bear vs Hippo would probably be more fair, even then Hippos don't fuck around.

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>>33934238

>>33934259
This shows that in the end...
MAN ALWAYS WINS

>>33934087
it's a BS figure. polar bears haul fucking Elephant seals and walrusses from ice holes which weigh in at up to 3000kg.

>>33934273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DCqbxmucFE

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>>33932674
Don't need to grapple if you have knives for fingers

>>33934325
>>33934259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehw19AdwLS8

I kinda wanna go hunt these assholes with my 300wm... let's see how great you are when the animal shoots back.

>>33934348
WHOA, SIMMER DOWN THERE, PETA.

556 is all that's needed for safari hunters

>>33934378
nope. I've shot many a hog myself. but youa ren't telling me they hunt for food or anything when they shoot a 1000+kg animal in a swampy shitsoup. they are not getting in there to claim the meat. 1st rule of hunting is to know your terrain and make sure you can haul your catch back home safely. that's why when you go moose hunting you bring 4 burly dudes at least.

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>>33934348
"mommy, please wake up. mom?"

>>33934174
The largest brown bears may be able to kill a hippo by mauling

>>33934188
You highlighted my post and still showed how poor your reading comprehension is.

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>>33934425

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>>33934444

>>33934415
Fuck off, killing kittens is fun

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>>33934462

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>>33934444
4x4 tis true

I've been getting my durr limit since forever, but I've never been so wantonly gleeful as this pos dropping a hippo.

>>33934473
kittens are pests that kill songbirds, reptiles and other useful native fauna. yes, you do well to kill your neighbours free roaming cats. kill your neighbour too while you are at it. not the same as killing hippos though.

>>33932843
>I dunno man, the gorilla still has the advantage in terms of pure strength and flexibility.
No.
Bears are crazy, crazy fucking strong. Gorillas are strong compared to us, but compared to a fully grown grizzly or even a polar bear? no contest at all.
I can see a fight between the two ending in about 10 seconds when a gorilla gets close to the bear, and the bear bitchslaps it with its knifehands and takes off the gorilla's face

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>>33934517
>but I've never been so wantonly gleeful as this pos


that's the difference between a hunter out of necessity who hunts for food (and maybe population control) vs. a dude who's just got too much money and too small a cock. if I could choose between shooting an IS dude and a big game hunter for free, I'd go for the hunter. I've met a few and they are all massive assholes in every way possible.

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>>33934518
>Grow up in new remote neighbor hood
>Few neighbors mostly wooded lots
>Tons of birds, frogs, lizards, snakes
>Fast forward 10 years
>Most of the woods are gone replaced with houses and lawns
>Neighborhood is still surrounded by hundreds of acres of woos though
>Notice lack of wildlife despite adequate surrounding habitat
>Realize many of the neighbors have roaming cats around the hood
>Being a small creature is dangerous as fuck in da hood now
>Kids growing up there won't get to observe and catch countless lizards, toads, birds, grass snakes
>Their only entertainment is now 4chan

Fuck neighborhood cats

>>33934552
fortunately, I've never run across types like that - heard 2nd hand stories though. I'd never go out with someone who even remotely acted like this in the first place.

I'm in Southside VA, in thick pines either waiting or stalking, not hanging out in a stand. Longest shot in 15 seasons was 110 yards - 30-30 Winchester, iron sights. Most are under 90.

Glad we haven't needed a culling in a long time, but it's preferable than seeing starving durr.

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>>33934059
Ou ah ah ah ah ah!

>>33934335
Would a gorilla be able to open a bears mouth and break it open?

>>33934707
It might be able to, but the bear would be shredding the gorilla to ribbons.

>>33934696
pretty good post but that's one too many ah's

>>33932674
>arguing over grapple tactics in a bear VS gorilla fight
I love you guys

>>33933030
They work out every day just living bro.

Humans go to the gym to replicate the kind of life we used to live. Animals still live it.

>>33934829
>guy is being killed
>better film this!

shitskins innanutshell

>>33934259
>dat blood spurt from the nose
Looks like a dying monster in a movie

>>33934904
Missing audio:
>"DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYOM!!"
>"Y'all that nigga gettin' fuuuuucked up!"
>"Bears be crazy!"
>"Y'all call the police? Man fuck dat they prob shoot us!"

>>33934910
makes you wanna try a

>1000 degree knife vs big game hunter

video

>>33934517
That's the most adorable fuckin thing I've ever seen

>>33934944
Why?

Without big game hunters they wouldn't be able to pay for conservation efforts, or security patrols for the rest of the herd of elephants etc.

Plus sometimes they have killed a human and need to be destroyed before they try it again. Stop being such a faggot.

Gorilla vs 4 mongooses
Who wins?

>>33934913
you forgot the

>WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOORLD STAAAAARRRRR

>>33934970
>Afreaka
>humans

try again niggerlover

>>33934992
Fuck off Reddit.

>>33933081
This. Gorillas are designed (by that I mean evolved im not a creationistfag) for two things, to beat the shit of other gorillas in fast show fights and to eat baby gorillas, no joke. Their entire niche is based on controlling females by eating their babies if they were fathered by another male. The females even like that shit it weird, if a lone male sneaks up and eats her baby, she'll become attracted to that male and abandon the old one to join him.

Grizzlies are predators, designed to be able to kill fucking moose. No contest

>>33934985
the jews

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>>33934188
Are you retarded?

>>33931877
they use 12 gauge on 'rillas down in africa, so i guess yeah

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>>33935038
redbone coonhound pack will destroy everything

>>33934273
Now that I conisder it, a rhino could do some considerable damage to a bear, and its thck skin would probably help.

>>33934829
Welp, I'll just add that to the list of things I wish I could unsee... I thought black bears were timid and easily spooked.

>>33935365
Did not know this, i imagine a brenneke black magic magnum slug would fuck their shit up now that you mention it

>>33935614
That's not a black bear. It's a Sloth bear. They are aggressive little fucks

>>33935697
I see. I got curious about bear attacks from this thread and came across this story. As awful as it is, the final line made me chuckle a bit...

"Wallace's remains were found by hikers on the Mary Mountain Trail, northeast of Old Faithful.[26] Wallace was hiking alone.[27] An autopsy showed that Wallace died from a bear attack.[27] According to a report released by Yellowstone rangers, park officials had attempted to give Wallace a lecture about bear safety, but he was not interested, calling himself a "grizzly bear expert".[28]"

>>33935825
>"grizzly bear expert"

My sides. Even if he were, it sure as hell wouldn't help him with black bears.

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>>33935892

>>33935825
I bet he knows more about how grizzes eat than anyone else alive.

>>33936015
Savage

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One of these would fuck up a Grizzly bear real good. They average around 5m (16.5ft) long with the more successful males frequently growing to 7m (23ft) or above. They also have the strongest bites of any animal on earth, at around 16,500 newtons of force. Finally, they are heavily armored and masterful ambush predators, capable of remaining completely invisible in just a few cm of murky water.

>>33934988
>WHURLSTARR

>>33936202
Big cats hunt and kill these fuckers. They can't do shit on land. A polar bear in water would fuck it up. A grizzly on land would fuck it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBNYwxDZ_pA

>>33936239
as entertaining and impressive as that video was, comparing that croc to a 1200kg (2645lb) salt water crocodile is pretty retarded

>>33936289
And teenagers that were attacked by them have fought them off. A few gouges to its eyes and it will generally let go. I have also skinned a few out. Their skin isn't as tough as you might think.

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>>33936366
>Silverbacks are savage and ferocious; much like their Chicago cousins.

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Bear: Found all over the world; evolutionary superior body structure, able to survive against big-cats.

Gorilla: Found in one tiny area of the world and is predated upon by big-cats. Timid and uses a 'mock-charge' as means of intimidation via size.

One got cucked to live in a tiny portion of a forest, and the other dominates (except asian bear vs tiger) all over the world.

That said, for penetrating and killing the gorilla, consider the breast bone mass and low-reflex muscle speed (denser) in comparison to the human chest. Front-on shot, you're looking at 3" penetration maximum, quartering shot maybe 12", not counting an arm.

Niggers BTFO

>>33931877

SIlver Back gorillas are just black people without Jordans on. Grizzly easily wins. It's not even close.

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>>33933095
>Grizzly can't climb trees.
They most certainly can.

Just get a .500 S&W or .50 Beowulf and call it good.

>>33933059
Brown bears are incredibly dexterous with those claws of theirs. If they can open clams without crushing them I'm sure you could teach one to pull a trigger.

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>>33936411
God fucking damn. I did not know that.

>>33936431
Here. This is for you.

>>33933039
I want to make it my life goal to answer this question

>>33934101
>I don't support animal fighting shit
I suppose you didn't play pokemon growing up either.

>>33936442
>TEKKEN 7: FATED RETRIBUTION REVENGE OF KUMA DLC

>>33936416
Oh? What is the velocity and grain of each?

There is literally nothing the strongest, biggest gorilla could do to a 900 lb grizzly. A bite wouldn't even get through the fur to break the skin. A gorilla would run from a large bear rather quickly when it realizes it has no chance.

>>33936481
Wrong and Wrong.

A Gorilla could most certainly puncture the Grizzly hide, however it wouldn't come to that point until he fake-charged and skirted off after the Grizzly retaliated. I believe the Grizzly @~30 mph could chase him down and wreck him pretty badly.

There's a reason why the Gorillas are relegated to a small part of the world. Muh dik.

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Y'know what i really want to see, a hippo vs. one of these motherfuckers

>>33936530
what's wrong with the classic squid vs sperm whale?

>>33936537
Nothing's wrong with it, i just really want to see a hippo fuck around with a squid for a while

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>>33933110
Lmao now we know who says that shit

>>33936530
In the desert.

>>33931887
Gorillas tend to carry high points, don't they?

>>33934348
>he doesn't know big game hunters are the reason many species aren't extinct
>he doesn't know African countries use the deep pockets of big game hunters to fund preservation efforts
>he doesn't know big game reservation select which target the hunter can kill
>he doesn't know they select problematic members of the herd/older animals that are stopping young ones from reproducing/sick one for death while leaving the healthy, productive animals intact
Okay then.

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Russia stronk

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>>33932556
I don't think you appreciate the difference in lethality of their natural weapons.

>>33936729
gorillas have 4 hands retard, they can grab the bear with legs to rip and tear

>>33933051
FUCK THAT SHIT FUCK THAT

>>33936731
WE WUZ KANGZ

Grizzly have the signature 'hump' that is not bone, but muscle, yet the Kangz can 'rip and tear' with their savage hind legs...

>>33936731
A gorilla's penis is only 3 inches erect. CHECKMATE

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>>33936659
kek

>>33936477
Depends on the load, faggot.
.50 Beo goes from 300gr up to 400gr at ~1800FPS, .500 Smith goes from 300gr up to 500gr at ~1400. Definitely more than enough to penetrate the skull of either. Both have a wide range of loads.

>>33936729
>>33936202
what would a crocodile bite do to the skull of a grizzly? theoretically: the crocodile is suspended from a tree, facing downward, and bites this bear that passes under it and through its jaws somewhere between its eyes and its ears

>>33935384
True, but the argument is between individual animals, not packs of dogs.

Beautiful pups tho, are they yours?

>>33933051
Yeah, feed bears out of your window, what could possibly go wrong here?

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How would he do?

>>33936889
He'd get that fat ass whupped.

>>33931877
Let's not lie. Most people want the Grizzly to win. Bears are just cooler. Gorillas remind us of black people.

>>33934310
well that was anticlimactic

ten oh 6 and an ar10

>the internet has many snuff videos and rape/torture/porn and all kinds of horrible shit
>none of the people who made those videos has made a gorilla vs grizzly video yet
This debate comes up all the time and there has to be some kind of animal black market. Animal fights aren't uncommon, its just no one seems to have done these two despite the huge debate.

>>33936729
Doggo looks tired and mistreated, his nails need a trim and his fur is all matted.
Poor doggo

>>33934174
Hippo all day

>>33934944
>I'm a triggered fag

>>33932843
Bears are without a doubt fast and stronger. Anyone who knows anything about animals knows a bear would destroy a gorilla with ease.

>>33934174
Only land animals that could take a hippo are rhinos and elephants......that's fucking it. Hippos are not to be fucked with!

>>33937635
Where's that video of a pack of lionesses attacking a hippo and it just walks to the water like nothing. I mean shit their skin is thick and they have 4 fifteen inch bayonets in their mouths. Also they're straight up turbo nigger aggressive.

>>33936731

Hands are shitty weapons. Have you ever noticed how hard it is to beat someone to death without a weapon? It happens, but not easily.

Shit, we as a species had to come up with fucking hyperdancing in order to make even the most basic of effective attacks. Bears have knife hands and knife mouths and honestly have weaponized fucking SITTING ON YOU.

So unless you're throwing the gorilla a machete like those kangs in the kongo, it's gonna get fucked.

>>33934174

HIPPO:
>Wut you want nigga this the congo n shit we aint' fucking around I will straight DROWN YO ASS nigga get the fuck out my watering hole, bitch!

BEAR:
>Jesus, did someone SHAVE you? What is going on here? I... I'm sorry? I don't know what this is, but I'm pretty sure you'll eat me, and not because you have to. I'm going to go.

>>33933266

I've already looked this up, and lions have never won a recorded fight against tigers and I seriously doubt they'd beat a bear.

>>33932998
>pic
>American showing off his right to bear arms

>>33933021
Hey man I've had my mind messed up by watching chimpanzee's ripping people's faces off

>>33937663
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OAjxB6pCypY

17 fucking lions couldn't take 1 hippo!

>>33937714

Honestly, I almost think a chimp would fair better against the bear than the gorilla would.

Figure at least a Chimp can be up a tree and back down to strike again. Major speed advantage, and harder to hit.

Still, if it gets tackled, it's over.

>>33936459

> In local news, a man was arrested today after breaking into a local farm and assaulting the livestock. Twelve chickens had been kicked to death, six pigs suffered injuries and a llama had escaped from its enclosure. Police were notified after farm staff heard the man screaming after being kicked by a horse and breaking several ribs. He was quoted to say he was "doing scientific martial arts"

>>33937732
ha ha so random! your post is so funny LAWL!

>>33937719

>If you wanted me to leave, you could have just said so. You didn't need to bite my head off.

>>33937732
I feel like this would happen in Florida.

>>33936202
in seeing these in the wild all the time -- lol no. giant reptiles are lazy due to their cold blooded metabolism. any non-prey mammal would be able to fuck one of these up.

>>33931877
.357 is retarded small against a grizzly...
always carry a rifle with you if there is high risk of bear encounter, you'll also be much more likely to hit anything

>>33937731
chimps are smarter than gorillas and make weapons too. seriously, they fight each other with spears.

I'm picturing a chimp-bear fight basically being primitive man with a spear vs bear...except the man is nine times stronger than a human.

>>33937778
>giant reptiles are lazy due to their cold blooded metabolism

They actually have faster snap reflexes, though. Long term endurance, sure, they're lazy in that respect, but their metabolism is better suited to short bursts of high intensity movement. You're forgetting about that death spin, that's their main weapon if you get too close.

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>>33931919
>Planning to use a Taurus

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>>33932731
This thread is old and nobody will read this but honestly I think few people appreciate how fucking huge grizzly bears actually are/can be. I was hiking in Alaska for two weeks and saw a grizzly that was honestly the size of a small car. Not my picture but related.

>>33937928
Is this real life?

how much would it cost to buy a grizzly bear and a gorrilla and put them in a steel cage to see what would happen?

>>33931877
>ctrl+f
>type "gorilla warfare"
>nothing

guys what the fuck

>>33938117
you get banned for that joke now man where have you been?

>>33934829
that's an asian black bear, not an american one. asian black bears are absolutely vicious and maneaters.

>>33937719
That settles it.

t. fattie rules by the fat fedora and nobody with a /k/ can compete!

>>33932556
Bear would put that gorilla bitch in an arm bar.

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>>33937783
>retarded small

>retardedly small

I think we found the winrar. Shit-for-brains needs to go back to /b/ and lurk for 6 million years.

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The true king of animals.

Nothing fucks with a honey badger.

>>33936659
i chuckled

>>33937691
Underrated post. Thanks for the laugh.

>>33934537
Then why are there documented cases of unarmed hippies surviving grizzly attacks. Just watched a documentary yesterday about it.

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>>33938539
>Identity politics, again...

>>33937719
>keeps calling the hippo prey

I don't think he understands what that word means.

>>33936833
Underwood actually makes a 700gr load for 500S&W. It's quite uncomfortable to shoot, but it would definitely wreck anything it hits

>>33932698

SHUT THE FUCK UP WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE SOMETHING HERE

>>33937417
Im sure security at such an event would be extremely heavy and spectators would almost definitely be searched for recording devices.

>>33938649
Fuck, if I ever go hiking in grizzly land, I'm taking a 4 gauge, if it drops elephants, it will hopefully remove yogi too.

>>33937772
As a floridian, it probably has several times. Much much stupider shit happens literally every day all over the state. God I love it here. Never boring.

>>33938091
Yes you retard. And there are 100 pictures just like it. Never trust anyone who carries or recommends a taurus.

>>33938103
It would require you taking out a fraudulent mortgage.

>>33937620
>Bears are without a doubt fast and stronger.
and if you look at polar bears, they are outright scary to a surreal degree. the metabolic endurance combined with the sheer force is only met by whales like sperm and killer whales. still, burrets kill it. there is a vid of russian conscript chasing after one on snowmobiles and shooting it in the spine with a lcky shot. the animal lost controlof it's hind legs and started flailing on the ground in agony and desperation. it took a dozen shots to kill it if I remember correctly. the gunfire sounded semiautomatic so it may have been a 47 or 74 AK.

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>>33939050

>>33938965
That's a big loan.

>>33939093
Exactly. Full grown apex animals are expensive outright and require extensive logistical abilites to maintain and transport. Im not saying fights like this don't happen but rather we'll likely never see footage as the people who organize such events are smart and powerful enough to not let it be known outside of the small group that they operate with.

>>33936868
It's Russia. Not like anything could be worse than what the Slav is already experiencing.

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>>33937710
agreed 100% my man

>>33937679
Nignog here, authorizing racism because 'weaponized sitting' put my sides into orbit

>>33938649
I shoot 454 Casull out of an Alaskan, and infind lighter grains MUCH more punishing than the hot stuff, by a considerable margin

>>33938952
454 guy here, could have saved a TON of dough buying Taurus (Went Ruger), but unless its a range gun its not worth the risk

>>33934259
>Steve Irwin loates a hippo prior to taping

>>33939337
Moar of this

>>33934087
Both Gorillaz and Bears are omnivorous. Just like real humans.

Vegans on suicide watch.

>>33934174
>Hippo bites off Gizz's genitals
>Spins tail and fan shits all over
Hippos are fucked up, man, just leave them alone.

>>33934415
Their not legally allowed to claim the meat. It gets butchered an divided between the locals .

And yes, they will drag that meat out of there, because it's the only damn meat the villages are going to get until the next hunter makes a kill.

>>33938938
Yeah, it seems like a magical place. I mean hell it's the place that gave up Christina Model and the Kent Hovind Creationist Museum.

>>33935000
>Reddit
>not /pol/

>>33931877
>predator specifically designed to kill other living things and fight with
>herbivore with minor opportunistic omnivorous behavior

Gee, I fucking wonder.

But ill bite and settle the debate. Look through every video you can fight of silver back gorillas fighting in the wild. Its posturing, chasing each other, one or two five second long clashes, and then the loser flees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06KF-hnM7E

Grizzly bears are predators with perfected killing techniques and they lock on and start mauling each other immediately, locked in each others jaws, thrashing their flesh apart with all their might in a power based standing wrestling match.

This might be a different story if gorillas knew how to punch, but they dont, gorilla experts still cite their bite as the main form of fighting and basically the only way one silver back kills another is by biting.

>>33939575
The shit spin with their tail is just a whole other level of crazy. Hippos are literally psychos. Fuck those fucking things.

>>33936015
What about Timothy Treadwell?

>>33933021
You know the rules, where's the stream

>>33939337
A tiger would kick the shit out of a lion what is this bullshit

>>33939463
>Implying saving less than 1000 dollars is under any circumstances ever worth the risk of losing a hand.

>>33936659
You're thinking of chimpanzees.

>>33937928
Congrats, instant snubnose.

It's a feature.

>>33934944

>t. shitzero understanding of conservation efforts and how they're funded

>>33938564
For the same reason you shoot a man before throwing him off a plane. Animals, and humans especially, are ridiculously survivable.

>>33939744
They've been lying to you, man.

>>33938611
Ahh, but you see. When the Daughter falls prey to an African predator, what else can she be, but justifiably a 'prey' species?

We must rewrite history to confirm our bias! Some mothers even become Vegans in order to self-rationalize.

>>33939904
Here we see the rise of the Gluten-free victimhood. Truly, anything to arise the victim status; those in denial of truth.

>>33931919
Because fuck your wrists, nigga.

I remember reading about a particular Russian years ago, out on the vodka with his friends and the following happened:
>getting retardedly drunk
>begin to tell tales of how many fights each other have had
>discussing who was the strongest fighter
>big vlad (can't recall his actual name) tells the rest he could defeat a bear
>the rest call bullshit
>vlad continues to insist he can, as they drink more
>eventually, the drunken group head home, via a closed zoo
>they break in, and make the way to the bear enclosure
>egged on by friends, and with lots of mighty Russian liquid courage, vlad enters the arena
>vlad strides up to the bear, and punches the fucker in its face
>yogi hits him back, knocking him over and severely injuring big vlads face with its claws
>undeterred, big vlad gets up and marches back to the bear
>yogi stands up
>big vlad delivers an uppercut that stalin himself would have been proud of
>yogi is now really pissed, and proceeds to maul big vlad to death

The moral of the story? No matter what you think, its never a good idea to uppercut a fucking bear.

>>33939059
>5'11
>6'1

>>33939337

I can see the Lion coming out on top of a bear for really one reason:

The Bears greatest enemy in the wild is its own kind (an equal) and possibly a Moose (unequal).

The Lion's greatest enemies.....usually outnumber him, are more powerful, and continually bring out the most lethal instincts in him just so he lives.

>>33940069
manlets eternally btfo!

>>33940082
Lions only hunt in packs. They hunt weak or straggling prey. The flank take out the animal's legs and pull it to the ground. For larger prey they gang up and use their numbers to overpower it to the ground. I have seen lions that were removed from the pack try to hunt. They usually starve to death or get killed by hyena.

Bears are 9 ft tall and pure fat and muscle. I doubt even a pack of 6 lions could take down a grizzly. One swipe would incapacitate multiple lions.

>>33939093
U U
U U

>>33940231

>6 lions and one grizzly
Lion packs take on retardedly sized prey already - hippos/crocs etc. In that story though I believe it was a brown bear vs a lion....so similar size. So the male Lion would have the ferocity advantage and the experience.

1 on 1 a male Lion vs a Grizzly is no contest - the Grizzly is much larger and would destroy. A pack of 4-5 female lions would probably kill a Grizzly but lose a few lionesses.

>>33940082
I don't understand why people underestimate bears. Is it the teddy bear? Winnie the Pooh? Cute little black bears?

Grizzly's and Polars are probably the single most deadly mammals on the planet. They might not kill the most, but they're the most dangerous.

An adult male lion, is less than 500lbs. A female is less than 300lbs.

Tigers are actually bigger still, with some almost reaching 700lbs.

A run of the mill male Grizzly can reach 900lbs. A well fed Grizzly can reach 1500.

They're super strong, they have a thick layer of skin/fat to protect them, their jaws are made to crush and their claws are like dagger fists.

I don't think much of anything beats a large grizzly bear.

>>33940306
see
>>33940288


In the Spainish arena it would have been a Lion vs a Brown/Black bear. Not a Grizzly.

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>>33939831

>>33937184
Hahahahahaha russias strongest vs. Detroit

>>33939767
>only risking a hand

i'd risk my life for a grand

.38-55 WCF
Because fuck you that's why

>>33941047
You in FL? Because I can make that happen.

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The real question to this thread is which would a grizzly bear fight - a silverback gorilla, or a human being who is of moderate 100iq intelligence?
The answer is if the bear could, it would fucking beg for its life to fight the gorilla.
We are the apex predator of the entire world. If that bear kills a human and other humans, many of them, care deeply about that human, that bear will not notice at first. Then at some point, there will be sounds that bear will hear. Whirring, roaring, whining coming from large bulky objects far far away. Then this bear will see these humans in these objects - faster than any animal it has ever known, and already this bear is scared, very scared. Metal clumps powered by superheated air and liquids found deeper in the earth than it knows exists.

As the bear sees this object stop a distance from it, the last thing it will wonder is why there are so many humans. Why do humans travel in packs so large? And then the bear will see the human raise an oblong object towards it, and hear a very loud booming sound, like thunder. At the same time a bullet will enter and exit its head and it will fucking die. And the human could proceed to fire upon this bear over 30 times and more if desired, even for days, without having to do more than slightly pull a finger. That is how fucking terrifying humans are to animals - but they don't have a collective knowledge of us species-wide.
I wonder what their knowledge would describe of us if they did.

>>33941268

Humans are squishy wizards.

>>33941268
lol animals cant think dummy. they are like robots. god didnt give them souls

>>33941295
Then how do you explain the problem solving abilities of dogs, crows, dolphins, and elephants? Not saying God gave them souls, but that yeah animals can think. Some more or less than others. Bears not /as much/

>>33938611
Adult hippos don't have any natural predators. Even fucking crocs don't try hippos.

>>33939408
Who gives a fuck what nigger thinks, you don't need to 'authorize' anything

>>33932998
Its like a fat nigger VS a huge tank with knives for fingers

>>33931877
claws

>>33931877
fuc that shit. im carrying either a 12 gauge with slugs or a battle rifle

>>33931887
maybe its the drugs talking, but first post, best post

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>>33933081
bears eat salmon and berries. the wolf eat the moose.

but hey never let the facts get in the way of a good story, right?

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grizzly bears are killing machines that chase down and kill elk wtf guys how is a question

>>33931877
Assuming silverback in his prime Vs a big Alaskan grizzly… Not much of a fair fight. The bear would maul the gorilla. The grizzly bear is an apex predator. It is getting on for twice the gorilla’s size. It has a massive set of jaws, big enough to encompass the gorillas head, filled with a robust set of carnivore teeth. It has enormous, hugely powerful paws, each ending in 5 4-inch claws that will tear into earth, trees and thick-hided ungulates with equal disdain.

The fact that grizzly bears are omnivorous doesn't diminish their predatory ability. Physiologically they are little different to polar bears, which are almost entirely predatory (though like all bears they are happy to scavenge should a free lunch present itself). The grizzly tending towards being slightly smaller, overall, but more robustly built. Where their ranges overlap, grizzly bears are dominant to polar bears.

Now yes, the gorilla is an exceptionally strong animal. And it has a wicked set of incisors for a herbivore. But it is overwhelmingly outmatched in terms of size, offensive weaponry, and predatory ability.

Defensively, bears are built to survive fights with other bears. They have dense fur, thick sub-cutaneous fat around their necks and shoulder, thick skin and a massively sturdy skeletal system. Gorillas are flimsy in comparison.

I know that lots of people in this thread seem to really like the idea of the gorilla suplexing the bear, putting him in an arm-bar until he taps out, then asking him “do you even lift, bro” or similar such anthropomorphising fantasy, but the reality is that the worst likely outcome for the bear in this match-up is indigestion.

>>33937691
its funny because when you shave one it has pink skin.

some of you hairy ass whiskey tangos arnt that far away from apes yourselves.

>>33936537
Squid always loses

>>33931877

John Moses Browning created the 1911 in .45ACP for just such a situation.....

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>>33931877
This thread got me thinking. What about a t-rex.
>one google search later
We need to start funding this.

>>33931877
.357? Those things will tear you apart!

>>33932556
Retard
https://youtu.be/t0bC8-2k9jk

>>33934650
Are you me?

>>33934650

> he hasn't endured a gopher infestation

Oh I'm laffin!

>>33945904
You got me thinking, how many grizzlies would it take to kill a T-rex. I'd say with about 30 they'd stand a fair chance.

>all these idiots talking about grizzlies
>Not knowing polar bears are the biggest bears, having been recorded being up to 2200lbs
Child-tier bear knowledge fags can get rekt.

>>33936549
>i just really want to see a hippo fuck around with a squid for a while

>>33939408
Fucking nigger

>>33946354
That's totally bullshit, nothing that dangerous should be allowed to get that massive. Fucking bears.

>>33937747

Don't worry, here's your (You)

Maybe next time we can even pretend that somebody loves you.

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>>33931877
Take something truly effective OP.

>>33937184
>Gorillas remind us of black people.
Except the gorilla is more gentle and capable of learning intelligent communication.

>>33937714
Chimpanzees are far more aggressive than Gorillas. It goes Chimp >> Bonobo > Gorilla = Orangutan in terms of aggressiveness.

>>33937719
Hippos kill more people annually than any other African animal except the Mosquito. Hippos are no push overs.

>>33934650
Outdoor cats are pests. Treat them as such. Shoot them at night. Spare the coyotes, they'll quickly take care of the evidence.

>>33934829
That's a Sun Bear, is it not? Definitely not a North American black bear.

>>33944601

>"frend?"

>"Please let me go."

>>33940231
>Lions only hunt in packs.
That's only true for females. Most male lions don't have a pack they are part of. They regularly hunt water buffalo by themselves. Occasionally a pair of male lions will team up, but it is not common.

That being said, a Lion against a Black Bear: advantage Lion. Lion vs Grizzly: Simba is fucked.

>>33945904
>>33946299
Who would win, 30 enraged gorillas protecting their children or a T-Rex?

>>33941268
More truth to this post than some would like to admit. Humans may be at a physical disadvantage, but there is a reason why the big predators rarely attack a human unless the human is alone. Even then a lone human getting attacked is much rarer than would be expected given the disparities.

The reason is humans have killed enough animals of every species to instill an instinctual wariness.

>>33948199
I thought baboons were the most aggressive.

>>33948489
Baboons aren't apes.

>>33948526
Neither are bears. Your point? Are they not more aggressive than chimps?

>>33931877
I own a 8 inch 458 socom ar15 upper for said resons

>>33932900
>Gorillas are DPS
Nah man. It's more like the ultimate DPS/Tank combo vs the 3 day old character wandering around the game.

>>33934006
The bears thicker muscular chest. Did you not see >>33932731

>>33934348
>I kinda wanna go hunt these assholes with my 300wm... let's see how great you are when the animal shoots back
Well you'll die pretty quickly considering they are not only more experienced than you, the guides that are leading the expeditions are usually experienced in hunting poachers themselves.

Basically, the rules of small unit combat would apply and you're on the losing end of that against a group of experienced hunters who are familiar with the land. While you are alone with a 4 round bolt action.

>>33934174
>hippo extends mouth to 100° crushes down with a force of 12410563 newtons/square m
>instantly destroys its neck
>fight over in seconds

Pretty easy choice tbqhwyf

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>>33940015
>The moral of the story? No matter what you think, its never a good idea to uppercut a fucking bear.
Yes. A straight is a better bet because it generates more power.

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>>33931877

>>33931877
10mm is a great gorilla round.

>>33933230
In the wild west there were bear vs. large cat fights where the bear would win almost every time. They would collapse the skull of the large cats and kill them pretty fast

>>33949818
what's your source for that? It seems obvious that the bears would win, but I want to read about it

>>33931877
You can neutralize a gorilla with stern shouting.

>>33934904
If I saw a shitskin being mauled by a bear, I'd film it too.

>>33949872
so far I've read through a lot of supposed instances in which a lion kills a bear
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35295

>>33931887
A calculator.

>>33937691
Spot on, my niggity.

>>33937679
>hyperdancing
i submit 1 innocent "wut"

>>33933081
Monkeys bite yo nuts. Dat bear gun get ids nuts bid ovf

>>33949252
4 round?

>>33936868
Absolutely nothing. The bear will begin to love you and become dedicated to you. Then, when you tell it to fight a gorilla, it'll win for sure. What's the gorilla fighting for? Dunno. What's the bear fighting for? Love.

>>33938167
So wattchasayaniz, we need to cross breed them with wholesome NA BBears to make weaponed vicious hybrids. Ala Africanized (see: "niggered") Honeybees.

Asiatified BBears.

>>33937719
That poor /k/itty.

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>>33949589

>>33936530
You know that's just a giant lure, right?

You all buy off on so many "giant squid" photos.

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>>33933051

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>>33946299
>>33948338
Science needs to make this happen!

Has anyone else noticed how theower primates, inexplicably, are always attracted to our human females? Like a siren affinity.

Lol Jane Goodall

>>33950504
>all giant squids are actually whale fishermen playing pranks
Please tell me you're not actually this stupid

>>33950631
You know Jane Goodall got more gorilla glue than a shattered vase.

>>33950718
You're the only one that sounds like an absolutist. Dumb fuck.

>>33933021
>A grizzly bear with red beret level systema skills

>>33950879
That's a squid, dumbfuck.