If I'm interested in picking up pic related, is there a different pistol that is simply hands down better than it, that I should be aware of and pick up instead? (Barring the 84 from consideration as I already know the double stack variant exists.)
It would be hard to find a "hands down better" gun
You can find cheaper, lighter, smaller .380s but you may not need a tiny pocket pistol and you may want to comfort of shooting a bigger/heavier gun
>>33894048
I've got one at its the most reliable and easiest shooting gun I own and I've got a lot of choices.
It's not the smallest or easiest to conceal .380 but it's a well made tool that will last you a lifetime.
Do not hesitate about acquiring one just buy it you will not be disappointed!
>>33894248
Boxes this tick for me are,
-Metal frame,
-exposed hammer (able to double and single action)
-common round
-I happen to really like the Beretta aesthetic so that's a bonus
-"decent" single stack capacity
-reasonably compact design (I suffer from the same affliction as supreme emperor Trump, small hands)
-blued finish, and wood grips available
Those are the things I like about this firearm.
In your opinion, based on that, is there something better that comes to mind? (Beretta style design not required, just happens that I do find it to be an attractive design.)
>>33894707
That's what I've heard, a gun collector family friend uses one for his daily carry. Glad to hear your opinion on it as well, I'll definitely consider this one at the top of my list.
Well, just to add some additional variety to your decision, the Beretta 70 series is fantastic if you like single action; also, it's a bit smaller than the 85. They are discontinued, but they made so many of the damn things that they're still fairly reasonably priced, and spare parts are plenty
>>33894725
I've been looking at the 84/85 as well lately. Price seems to be the only con for me. Its a pretty gun.
>>33894801
Yeah, the price and availability of it seem to be the only sticking points. For the price of an 85 you can find a decent glock in .380, or 9mm and buy a few boxes of rounds. So it's not the most cost efficient option, but It's so much prettier than other options, and is full steel, unlike the glocks and M&P's out there.
>>33894769
Damn, the 70 series looks amazing too. Thanks for the recommendation.
It's only fault is it's in .380 ACP, John Browning's least favored ACP.
81FS is best 80 series.
>>33894926
Exactly, full steel is the only way to go.
>>33894933
I'm hoping to buy the 71 in 22lr soon. They have a bunch with permanently affixed fake suppressors to make the barrel longer but theyre cheaper than without it and I don't have a problem removing that shit and putting a thread cap on it.
>>33895491
The fake suppressor is a bit of a bitch to remove, trying to find the little hex set screw they buried under weld. They are really fun little .22s though. A dude from the Czech Republic sells spring kits on gunbroker for them. Good idea to get fresh springs in there as some of these have been shot a LOT.
>>33895491
>>33895969
Just to give you some idea of the amount of material that needs to be removed to start to expose the screw. Once you find it though, hit it with a butane torch and it comes right out, fake can twists off.
>>33895989
>>33895969
Damn, thanks. I guess I'll look into those spring kits. How do you like that octane suppressor on that gun?
>>33894048
My nickel 85 is on consignment right now. Shitty trigger thanks to the magazine safety and there is literally no reason to own a .380. I would be interested in the nickel 87 if it held 10 rounds instead of 7.
>>33894048
I have an 84, and picked up cheap from a LGS for like $250. It was juts an impulse purchase.
It is a pretty nice gun. Accurate, reliable, and very soft shooting - makes me remember why Beretta used to be considered a premium gun manufacturer.
The only thing that you should be made aware of, is that it is Double Action, but has no decocker. So, if you want to carry it in DA, you need to learn how to lower the hammer on a loaded pistol safely. It's not hard, but it is certainly a design that is outdated.
This is why the Turk guns are so cheap, because many of them work the same way.
Manual decocking isn't terrible, but having a reliable decocker is better.
Pick up an 86 Cheetah.
>>33897860
>but has no decocker
But that's incorrect, push all the way up on the safety, dingus
It's the opposite of the 92 series decocker
>>33897888
Is that the flip style barrel from one of beretta's smaller pistols? Looks ugly in my opinion, but you do you.
>>33897860
It has a decocker you just don't know how to use it
I have an 85fs. It's pretty sexy