Now that mag fed shotguns exist, what's the point of

Low pressure loads.

>>33887355
they have existed for decades you just didnt know about them. sears sold mag fed shotguns back in the 60s and 70s

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>>33887355
>what's the point of tube fed shotguns
a lot of people don't want a semi-auto shotgun. simple as that

>>33887355
well Im pretty sure that a bulky magazine can cause some obstacles for example in hunting

>>33887355
Easier to switch between loads, which is important for hunting and some fringe cases in military/law enforcement.

>>33887374
There are mag fed pump action shotguns

>>33887355
Don't shells deform over time if left in magazines?

detachable box mag makes the gun bulkier by adding more size in the Y-Axis. Internal tube-mags are in-line with the gun, and always travel with it.

>>33887466
>there are mag fed pump action shotguns
sure, but most detachable mag shotguns aren't pump. i don't even think a lot of people know they exist.

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>>33887518
Human ability to retain ignorance is truly stupendous.

>>33887355
Now that you can buy a .223 semi auto magazine fed carbine for like $400 why get a shotgun out side of hunting?

>>33887561
So you can remove watermelons you fun hating son of a bitch

>>33887561
Clay shooting sports

Leaving shells in mags for a long period of time can cause the plastic to deform.

>>33887573
what if the watermelon is using plates?

>>33887355
I don't want a foot long box hanging off the bottom of my shotgun for the same number of rounds as i can already fit in my tube fed shotgun

now if there was a reliable and compact drum style mag for auto loader shotgun then maybe

>>33887578
With a fucking box mag shotgun?

>>33887355
if you're barrel is gonna be 22 inches, why have your firearm stick out 6 inches from the bottom of it. plus i can quad load.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMVURZm4W4Y

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>>33887613
u can get 20 and 30 round drum mags

>>33887655
what if you need to switch from pellet to slug for breeching?

>>33887655
So now a foot tall and a foot wide box

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>>33887655
>20 and 30 round drum mags
now that makes it more interesting

>>33887634

If it's you and your buddies dicking around throwing clays then fuck yeah my dude. We will throw like 5 up in the air at a time.

>>33887670
load 00buck / slug alternating every other round

>>33887475
Indeed they do. And if you use brass cases shells, they'll deform the feed lips.

>>33887670
Breaching shotguns are different than normal shotguns

>>33887355
>shotgun box magazine
>reliability

pick one

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>>33887890
>bait
>no bait

>>33887914
breeching shotguns have no stock and a pistol grip usually and are carried by a designated breecher on the team

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>>33887914
You fucking retard
you can't breach doors with slugs or buckshot
you need a special shotgun and a special breaching round

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaching_round

>>33887976
>A breaching round or slug-shot
literal first sentence. nice kek.

reliability.

unless you want to do solid brass shells like the US military in ww1/ww2.

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>>33887975
>m1014

>>33887430
>>33887430
>>33887430
>>33887430
>>33887430
>>33887430

>>33887976
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaching_round
US mil literally uses a wax slug, according to your source

>>33888024
hes doing it wrong

>>33887355
Superior aesthetics.

>>33887976
you don't need a special shotgun, and the projectile is simply powdered metal bound with wax

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>>33887675
>>33887655
>>33887688
>>33887613

Don't forget the smaller 12 round drums.Pic related. Also, even if you roll with 5 or 8 round mags they are so easy to reload that I still think it's superior to tube mags.

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Turkey sure loves their semi-auto shotguns. They are flooding the market lately.

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>>33887655
>>33890445
>saiga
>not vepr

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>>33890519

>>33887355
alternate feeding mechanisms are always fun to play with.

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>>33890540

>>33890519
I've heard bad things, plus fuck Turkey.

>>33890524
I have multiples of both and they are both functional platforms. I do prefer the Vepr though and the mag change is nice on those guns. However, they were wanting capacity matching a full tube. To me it makes more sense to run box mags and I run 8 rounders. Someone used to make an adapter to use rock in mags on the Vepr 12.

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>>33890575

UNG's rival, the Ranger series.

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>>33887355
>mag-fed shotguns

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>>33890579
>I've heard bad things, plus fuck Turkey.

Most of them struggle to cycle with light loads, yes.

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>>33890619

And every 6 weeks a new turkish spacegun emerges.

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>>33890619

The typohoon F12 is one of the few turkish semi-autos that has an adjustable gas setting for light loads.

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Carrying 50 loose shells in a bandolier is a lot more efficient than carrying 5 fuckhuge 10 round magazines.

Also the reload time of a tube fed shotgun and mag fed shotgun is negligible because if you aren't shooting, you're reloading.

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Are the Crye revolver fed shotguns finally coming out this year?

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Tubes make more sense for clay shooting where you just want 1 or 2 loaded any time. It's easier.
And even that is easily overcome by having something like pic related hanging at your hip to hold loose shells/mags. It's easy to load mags while they sit in the pouch with one hand.
>>33887357
>Low pressure loads.
This, although my vepr12 handles any normal birdshot loads as well. But any less and it would probably have issues.

>>33890629

is that handguard meant for gorillas?

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>>33890575
do want

>>33890824
Yes, for only $1800

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Can someone explain this thing to me

Is it just a saiga?

>>33887355

Tube fed guns are easier to point and swing around when you're shooting at birds

most states require a magazine plug to limit the gun to 2 in the tube and 1 in the chamber for hunting birds, so a magazine isn't practical.

>>33891213
It's a proto-bolter

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>>33890629
>>33890585
>>33890575

Reminds me of the sko-bull

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>>33891214

Most of the magfed shotguns come with a 2-round mag for that purpose.

Why are there no double stack shotgun magazines?

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>>33891316

>>33891322
It'd be pretty tough to get it to work unless it's like those sixty-round STANAGs that taper outwards. Even then, I bet there's feeding issues they need to work out with the staggering.

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>>33891341

>>33891341
>>33891354

It's a pity these are banned in Canada due to Saiga internals.

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>tfw only box mag ar type shotguns are made by t*rks
>dumb side charger
why live

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It's 2017 and there's no belt fed shotguns. Still mad.

Wouldn't it make more sense to have .223 assault rifles with tubular mags under the hand guards? Load them from the front and have a round indicator somewhere highly visible to the shooter?

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>>33892020
Get. Out.

>>33887355
Shell lengths that aren't 2&3/4in.

>>33891213
They claim it's going to be convertible, i.e. in the future you will be able yo drop in a bolt and barrel set and change from 12 gauge to a rifle caliber.

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>>33892201
>Shell lengths that aren't 2&3/4in.
Veprs can handle 2 3/4 and 3"
mind blown with this shotgun fact?

>>33887355
Circumventing high-cap bans.

>>33887556
but anon thats just a tube-fed shotgun with a magazine attached so you get likke 4-5 more rounds but a huge amount of bulk and it looks like it sucks

>>33887597
then you're not getting through it with .223 either

>>33887675
Closer to 18"x18", and don't forget that even with light 1oz target loads they weigh about 3.5lbs and 5lbs, respectively, loaded.

>>33890519
>Turkey sure loves their semi-auto shotguns.
It's because of their own "AWB".

>>33888042
well he is a muhreen.

in the 3rd ID. we would have just had a Bradley or Abrams knock on the door. Fucking Iraqis behaved themselves better around the Broken TV.

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>Mfw no 8 gauge, tube fed shotgun
Why even live?

>>33893220
you aren't a genetically engineered cyborg in power armor.

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Because I want something that won't compress my shells to shit. Simple as that

Also weight and general reliability. See pic related

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>>33887374
>tfw no nazi gunfu gf

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>>33893277

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>>33893281
Or this one

>>33887976

Former Combat Engineer here, you can totally breach doors with standard shotgun and shells, it just increases the possibility of collateral damage. No. 9 birdshot will take care of wooden doors, buckshot or slugs will handle heavier doors. Only thing you really need a breaching shell for is padlocks. A standoff muzzle device is convenient but not necessary.

>>33887976
most people in Iraq have hollow sheet metal doors made of thin mild steel, or wood.

we used what ever we could get to breech, with our captured shotguns.

>>33890629
>the MBUS are backwars

>>33887374
>Nazi flag
>Communist rifle
>Sandnig head-scarf
Real nazi woman? nope. Confused edgy girl? yes

>>33893451
>communist rifle
>rifle
Stop trying to hard.

>>33893451
>Nobody is allowed to use cheap soviet weapons unless they are also soviets
tell me more

>>33893451
there are tons of militant nazi groups in ukraine using russian weapons right now

>>33887561
Or you could buy a reliable poorfag shotgun for like 200

>>33893451
Firearms have no ideology.

>>33892675
>>33887573
pelvic girdle

>>33887355
having a gun that isnt a foot tall

Why hasn't anybody made a normal shotgun, just with an extra tube in front? KSG capacity without keltec quality control and bullpup problems/cost.

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>>33895719
u mean like this? people do it for 3 gun comps all the time

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>>33895732
No, i meant like how the KSG has two times side by side.

>>33890579
>plus fuck Turkey

This.

When the Turks were calling Europeans Nazis I started saying we should reclaim Constantinople and had my twitter feed flooded with Turkish dick pics by them because they can't handle hearing that..

Spray the roaches.

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>>33897063
Can someone give me a quick rundown of why Turks are considered roaches? Any particular reason besides being a general insult?