QTDDTOT So pistol grip shotguns are retarded and single point

>>33881408
Why don't you fire some full recoil buckshot through it and tell me how fast your follow-ups are compared to a stocked one, champ?

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No, pushing with a sling is not faster than a stock. Ask me how I know

I signed up for a CPL Class next month. I don't have much experience with guns, only gone shooting twice, years ago. What are some things I should know or expect?

>>33881589
Listen to what the teacher says.

>>33881408
why do slav guns like sks and ak's eject shells to violently?

>tfw range people give me dirty looks cuz my sks flings the shells so hard they often get hit with them.

>>33881690
Buy pingery and hit the dude 8 lanes down.

>>33881690
Slav guns are normally overgassed because muh slav "reliability" which cause them to send empties into orbit.

>>33881716
>reliability
but they seem to get their ass kicked in all the reliably tests against the Ar15. not even trying ti cause a shitstorm.

>>33881847
hence the parentheses.

>>33881862
honestly though, how did the ak and sks get reputations as being so godly reliable when they get fucked by mud so easily? even a dry ar runs like a top.

>>33881440

Been there done that. Even have all the teeth I started with.

But pistol grips like OP Are dildos. Birdshead grips like the shockwave = Sex

>>33881408
I carried a pistol grip Mossberg with a single point sling like the one pictured at a prison in southern Iraq. It was much more comfortable to carry and maneuver around with during riots.

But this is k, filled with autismos wth zero life experience touting their opinion as irrefutable fact.

>>33882030
We're you able to get follow up shots? Did you ever run "real" rounds through it?

>>33882296
he's using it against people in prison. id imagine it was mostly hip fire tier shit.

>>33881440
I've shot a club shotgun like in pic related without the sling and it wasn't that bad. I was just asking if you used a sling as an "anti stock" would that be viable for combat or is it one of those things that look good on paper but fail IRL. No need to get so upset.

>>33882310
Yeah I imagine but I also imagine that since he had to rely on this weapon for his safety he would go out and practice actual combat stances and methods and aiming and what not?

>>33881690
fixed ejectors instead of spring loaded ejectors and a high-velocity bolt cause violent ejection. FAL suffers this fate also.

>>33881658
Bring a pen and a pad of paper to take notes. Don't have a pancic attack if you are they only one who think of this.

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Have a side charging upper and looking for an optic. Thinking PRO, but it comes with a mount that may be in the way of my charging "handle". Not my setup, but pic semi-related

If I own a gun can I shoot live ammo on my backyard for fun? Can I set up some sort of shooting range as long as it's on my side of the fence? Also if I own a gun can I go inna woods and shoot it around? Asking for PA if that's relevant.

>>33882464
forgot the rest of my question:
Does anyone have a side charging upper and can say whether or not the mount that comes with the PRO gets in the way of charging the weapon?

If I was going to hypothetically bury an AR lower receiver for several years what would be the best preservative? Engine Oil?

>>33882564

senpai that's fucking dumb stop being a prepper its a stupid addiction.

>>33882564
sealed MBBs inside of a PVC tube.

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>>33881408
How much should I pay for an Enfield in decent condition?

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>>33883030
CADPAT's bright greens make a lot more sense in context.

>>33881716
>>33881847
>>33881873
>mud tests are the key factor determining reliability
This type of thinking is unironically retarded, just so you know.

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Is this a good grey man case?

>>33883376
Not with all of those stickers on it

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How much does your windage set up on your rear sights matter when shooting at 100 yards? My gun came out the factory with the windage slightly to the right but I'm still hitting the targets, so it seems kind of minute for the ranges I'm shooting at with irons.

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what can i do to my ar to make it look more aesthetic without having to do too much to it? i also have a red dot, its just not in the pic

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>>33884241
Whatever the hell you want, but IMO that handguard looks butt ugly and should be replaced with a more standard looking handguard. And carry handles are fucking sexy.

Can't find the answer to this anywhere.
If you're aiming at a target with a pistol and it's the same size as your front sight, should the bottom half be covered or should it be entirely covered?

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I don't know shit about shotguns, what's the legality of something like this? No different than a normal shotgun I hope?

How would I go about building one? will the stock fit on any 870?

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Why do they say bullpups all have shitty triggers?
I know it necessitates a long ass trigger bar but I don't see how that's a problem

>>33881862
>parentheses
>(parentheses)

>>33881459
Uhh, how do you know?

>>33881847
Sand would be a good example of their reliability and I'm an AR fag.

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how hard would it be to give this AI and put it in my ceiling to drop down when threats are present?

>>33884725
It's legal. Just get the ATI one from walmart online and it'll fit. It's like $70

>>33884725
Go to ATF site and look it up and be fucking certain.

>>33884816
The more mass you're moving and the thinner that trigger bar is, the more travel and creep that trigger will have. The trigger mechanism isn't completely rigid, parts flex, and frictions increases the more material you add.

>>33884877
Looking at this I realize I have no idea how those belt feed things work

>>33884960
Expanding gases forces the bolt and bolt carrier to unlock and proceed rearward. At which point a guide in a guide track pulls on the belt to align the next round to be put into the chamber to be fired. The rest is like any other semi auto.

Do all state permits/licenses to cc include being at least 21 years? Aside from the ones that don't require one at all ofc.

https://youtu.be/rCIgpUTvfsA

love shotguns, especially the Berelli semi auto which he uses in the vid. his version is also modified.

Just buy the shockwave and throw a folding pistol brace on the back. Still not a butt stock but keeps the oal above 26 inches so you can keep the 14.5 inch barrel but now have something to shoulder.

>>33885231
Wait, can you legally put a sig brace on the mossberg shockwave? Holy dick.

>>33883376
No.

Pelican cases, or just about any hard cases for that matter, are bad for grey manning.

Hard case says: I hold something worth protecting.

>>33885319
Yea black aces did that with their receiver and a short barrel and marketed it as a "firearm"(basically a 500 redesigned to feed from saiga mags which is cool but they've had some problems) and ATF approved it

>>33883376
>pistol sized case with stickers of firearms accessory companies
Gee I wonder what's inside??

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i only have one rifle, is it irresponsible to not have a safe to keep it in?

>>33885231
If this shit is ATF approved https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/short-barrel-no-hassle-black-aces/
Then I see no reason why you can't just throw a Mesa adapter and a pistol brace on there.

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I bought a ruger 10/22 recentetly. When the bolt is closed and the hammer is decocked, I can't engage the safety.

The only way I've found to engage the safety is to pull the bolt back first and then it'll get engaged.

But when you pull the bolt back, you cock the hammer, no?

i dont understand this hammer/safety/bolt relationship

please fill me in. I guess my question is "why can't you have the safety on with the bolt closed with the hammer de-cocked" and also how should I store the gun then

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>>33885492
Nah anon I only own one rifle and I just keep it in pic related on the floor near my closet. Just get a rifle case and if you're concerned, you can get a regular padlock to put on the zippers.

gun safes are stupid unless 1. you are required by law to have one and 2. you have children

Is there a pocket knife with a mechanism similar to a box cutter out there?

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>>33883376
>grey man
You mean inconspicuous. Fuck, you SEAL-soldier-wannabe burger warriors coined a term for that too?

Also, if you didn't post that picture as bait, no, it's a bad case for "greymanning". In fact, it kinda reminds me of those trucks plastered with 2A and gun company stickers, that scream "I HAVE A GUN!!!! If you smash all of this car's windows when it's left unattended in the Applebee's parking lot, you can probably find a shotgun or AR pistol in here!"

>>33881408
proper cheek weld willl always be better for obvious reasons. Still a pistol grip shotgun is fine for home defense if you know how to use it. There is little reason to worry about the ability of your hone defense gun if you are practiced with it and it is STRONG and RELIABLE, get a light mount my dude, you need it for mid-night self defense.

Does the CZ Scorpion Evo accept standard AR-15 type trigger mechanisms? I've pretty much decided that the Scorpion will be my next gun, but I'm picky about triggers and have heard complaints about it. I haven't had a chance to try the trigger myself, so it would be nice to have a backup plan. The autism in me also wants to put a binary trigger in it.

>>33885594
There's OTFs (out-the-front automatics). And there are a handful of folding box cutters, but they're usually not made for EDC.

>>33885556
Store the gun with the safety off and the hammer decocked obviously. You don't need the safety on.
I don't know how it works mechanically, all I know is the safety only works if the hammer is cocked. That's all you need to know.

>>33885079
Utah dropped the age min to 18. What states don't require a CCW to CC?

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where's a good place to find non wall mounted gun racks? I have 8 rifles that I want to hold in a gun rack and not in my closet.

>>33885635

This always makes me laugh.

Those guys who think "Just because I am not printing, no one can tell I am packing!" You all look the same numb-nuts. You want to "grey man"? Dress like a fucking nerd. Or a geek. Dress like you work in a fucking office.

Not like you think that all you need to have a good time is a four-wheeler, some mud, and your cousin. Nor should you dress like "high-speed low-drag" glasses, or a short sleeve shirt with a collar, but for some reason isn't tucked in.

Look at that photo of Vinning where he's holding the M4. Take the M4 out of the equation, pretend you didn't know who Vinning is. Does that skinny, white shirt wearing nerd with the thick glasses LOOK like he could kill you six ways from Sunday? Fuck no.

>>33886057

Buy a wine rack, or an umbrella rack from Amazon.

>>33886080

a wine rack would work? never thought of that.

So, I'm going to get an over under shotgun for clay shooting. But what's the benefit of a double trigger, over a single trigger over/under shotgun?

>>33884725
As long as it has an 18.5 inch barrel and a 30 inch over all legnth your good

>>33886086

An AR-15 weighs, what? 7-8lbs?

Yeah, so long as you don't buy some flimsy piece of shit you should be okay.

Pure subjective opinion question: of these handguns, which would you rather have (and preferably why)?

P226 SAO
1911 in 9mm
Browning hi-power

>>33882515
It depends on how far you are from other houses and the road. I think the minimum distance from the road and from other houses you have to be to shoot is 500 feet. As for innawoods make sure it's either your property, private property that you have permission to shoot on, or public land, check the laws and rules of the public land though just to be safe.

Are Magpul PMAGs okay for an AR15 build?

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Hi fellas. I just made some shirts that I thought you all might be interested in, and I'm thinking of making more and selling them. Wasn't sure where to post this so I figured this thread would be a safe bet. I've got a desert rats shirt and an afrika korps shirt. If I made more and sold them for like $10-12 who would be interested?

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>>33888413

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What is the verdict on upstate New York's gun laws? Is Westchester county still subject to NYC's municipal laws? Any info is appreciated

>>33887899
yes

>>33887125
In order of want:
Browning HP (kinda the only one I personally don't own, but it's iconic and parts are common)
P226 (single-action only??)
1911 in *9mm* (caliber is a dealbreaker)

>>33888422
>>33888413
Assuming the materials are comfy I'm down. Very nice color selections with the khaki/grey.

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>>33881408
no
if the gun is at low ready (or high ready), and you then raise the gun to sight in on a target, the distance you need to move the gun (be it a pgo setup or standard stock) is the same
...and with the pgo, singlepoint sling or not, you still deal with only having two points of physical contact with the gun..it's more difficult to achieve steady, accurate sight picture

>>33888729
I literally just went out and bought two tan shirts from saver's, one was closer to khaki so I chose that for the Brit one. My inspiration was to use sand colored shirts so it would be exactly like the emblem were on a panzer or a crusader. When I order the blank shirts in bulk I'm gonna get them all in the same sand color though. Great to know you're interested. I've been using this straw poll so I know roughly how many shirts to order.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12910952

What are the largest and most complete shooting ranges in the entire USA where I can have fun with all sorts of different guns in as many environments possible? Willing to pay as much as needed.

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Anybody know where I can get a Jericho 941 without a picatinny rail. I been searching on google for a few hours and the best results are years old armslists listings and such.

>>33883030
What kind?

How reusable are foam earplugs? I feel like I'm using at lot at work but don't want to endanger myself

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>>33889632
Ive used same pair for six damn months, theyre dirty as hell and i sleep with them on, no infection ever, i usually lose them before trying a new pair.

REQUEST****
Any kind anons have the picture of US infantry guys hanging off of an apache, its a hand drawn picture with a 4chan caption on the bottom saying:

>What is the context of this picture?
>America

What's a good group size for .308 at 100 meters?
I shot 6mm (ca. .240) center to center while working up a load.

>>33881408
You always shoot pistol grip shotguns from the hip or you risk a broken nose
If you practice it's really not that inaccurate at home defense distances. Tendency is to shoot high, just aim for the intruders dick and the shot shouldn't go over thier heads.

Why is Winchester white box such utter trash?
>150 rounds
>about 10 failures to lock open on an empty magazine
>1 stove pipe
>1 failure to extract

Then I fired full magazines of Federal and they worked perfectly fine

>>33889616
GunBroker
cdisales has them from time to time, it's Jewish surplus.

>>33881862
These are (parentheses)
These are "quotation marks"

>>33884877
People have created homemade AI sentry guns with air soft so the tech exists but it is completely illegal to do with actual firearms

>>33889653
>Ive used same pair for six damn months
Speaking of parentheses, get a load of this goy.

>>33884662
Depends on the pistol, shooter, ammo, and distance. Go practice and find out, nobody can answer that question for you.

>>33888865
I think it'll be there one in Vegas.

>>33889666
>What's a good group for .308 at 100 yards.
Well Satan, depends on ammo and rifle.

Any auto 3 or 4 inches is fine. Maybe a little larger if you have absolutely terrible bullets.

A cheap bolt action, 2-3 inches with cheap ammo and between 1 and 2 with expensive bullets.

An expensive bolt action. Under an inch with expensive ammo and under 2 always.

>>33889752
it wouldn't be for home. it's for my office in case people try to steal my documents.

>>33890039
That's not the issue.
The issue is that giving a gun to an AI turns it into a machine gun because the button you push to start the AI constitutes the "single function of the trigger" for every shot that it subsequently fires.

>>33890053
what if i give it the command to shoot for every round? like if i shout aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa it has to shoot continuously for each vowel.

>>33890100
It would be trivial to make it shoot two or more rounds per command.
The only way it would not be a machine gun would be to require a human to load a new round into it by hand after each shot.

>>33890131
so what if i just hire a slave putting in rounds through a belt? it's still semi automatic?

>>33890187
Why not just buy a bunch of slaves and give them all guns at that point?
Couldn't end any worse for you than SkyNet-ing your shit up.

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>>33881408
The only time to use a pistol grip only shotgun is as a master key.

>>33890187
Make it fire from something other than gun powder.

Like a repeating cross bow or a magnetic accelerator.

>>33890245
They're a fine budget home defense weapon.

Infinitely better than any pistol and cheap enough to train to an acceptable standard.

Certainly not as good as any intermediate round rifle, but there's a good chance someone could pick up a barely legal pistol grip shotgun for 50-100 bucks.

Buck at point blank would be pretty fucking hilarious too.

>>33890247
like a railgun?

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>>33888712
heard nothing son far, Its still in effect.
Delaware county bro here

Should I go with the x300u or xc1 for my carry pistol?

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>>33890749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFC2Tu5fR5s
The XC1 kinda sucks, and unless you're CCWing a S&W TRR8 the X300U's four-ounce weight isn't going to make the gun burdensomely heavy.
I mean, a Glock 19 with a X300U still weighs less loaded than a 1911 weighs empty, and people carry those all the time.

>>33884852
pic is related

>>33883394
>>33885325
>>33885480
>>33885635
Having users that are so easy to bait is what makes /k/ so shitty these days

So, how bad of a person would I be if I ordered a 590A1 from Buds? Their price is at least $100 less than what I've been quoted from every big box store or LGS, with the added benefit of actually being in stock.

>>33891427
As long as you buy some Federal to go with it you're good.

>>33888413
is that a proper WW2 German Afrikacorps insignia?

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>>33881408

Looking to purchase a 1911 in 45, I've fired the Springfield loaded, it was an awesome gun that felt right and balanced. I don't want to exclude all my options, so does anybody know other brands that are comparable to Springfield? Budget is ~$1,000 and I have been about a year since a funs owner.

Pic semi related, my family.

>>33891440
Underrated kek

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How well does tulammo .308 do in your semi autos /k/? Just ordered my first .308 and would like to shoot the cheapest shit possible.

>>33888712
>What is the verdict on upstate New York's gun laws? Is Westchester county still subject to NYC's municipal laws?

You could read the relevant laws direct and check the NRA/ILA website instead of relying on 4chin for legal advice which even if well meant is tough to cite in court.

>Bu...but Pepe said it was cool!

Hope your judge is a sympathetic green frog of chaos but you DO know what that word means?

>>33891440
I can feel myself slowly becoming grampa /k/, and I'm strangely ok with it

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>>33891477
My Browning Auto chews it up, though I've always had issues with Tula .223. Don't know why. What kind of gat you got anon?

>>33889632
Do the classic Air Force flightline maintainer method and toss your ear plugs inside a pocket or sock when you do laundry. I've done it literally hundreds of times and so did/do most maintainers.

Then you grab a fresh pair from work erryday for your personal stash.

3M "foamies" are why I can still hear decently after 25 years working jet engines.

>>33884894
Pistol grip shotguns are annoying. I'd either get a folding stock or butt stock with pistol grip.

>>33890187
>so what if i just hire a slave putting in rounds through a belt? it's still semi automatic?

Shut up and go get an ATF opinion because no other opinion has legal authority you mongtarded felcher of scabrous libtard pozmen.

>>33891452
Sans swastika yes, to my knowledge. I thought it would be neat cause to the layperson it's just a silhouette of a rat or a palm tree but anyone that knows WWII history will recognize it. Also I figure without the swastika you can wear it in public

>>33886042

Constitutional carry states... like Maine I think and maybe Montana. Gotta google that shit

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>>33891510
A BM 59. Essentially a Garand heavily bubba'd by the Italians to the point of using box magazines and firing .308. I have no idea what to expect from this rifle in terms of what ammo works best in it.

>pic related

>>33891427
>tfw Bud's is your LGS so you can get great deals while supporting local businesses
Life is good.

>>33891453
Fuck Springfield, get a Ruger SR1911.

Can someone post that infographic of cheap beginner guns/suggest a cheap workhorse revolver?

>>33891675
I've heard the Ruger gp100 is solid for the price.

>>33891646
just going by the sample size of one, my friend tried various 308 through it and it seemed to run reliably with all types. even wolf steel

>>33891661
Any particular reason why? I heard ruger's quality assurance as well as Remington's went down the drain a few years ago

>>33891778
Springfield supports gun control in exchange for kickbacks from the Illinois government.
Modern Rugers are fine, and their customer service can handle any lemons they may crank out from time to time.

>>33881459
Thats a decent dresser anon, how much that cost you?

>>33891675
Ruger GP100 or Security Six will be your best bets.

Personally i prefer the Security Six. Think the GP100 is a little bulky and ugly.

>>33891778
Hmmm, frankly I haven't heard anything about that regarding ruger. Remingtons been awful for over a decade now. even if a ruger product has some sort of issue they'll fix it for you. very good customer service there.

Personally I own a sr1911 commander length (not that other anon btw). Good gun, reliable, and the sights it came with were great. My only two complaints would be that when it was first being broken in it didn't seem to agree with grease(at least in cold weather) and that the trigger was kinda heavy on mine at first. Both problem have since resolved themselves and I even carry the thing from time to time.

>recently become hasguns
>take pump shotgun and .22 to range
>12 gauge birdshot seems as loud as .22 through hearing protection
>Guy shoots AR at the range, sounds way louder
Why's it so quiet? Is 00 buckshot a lot louder?

>>33891598
Kek

>>33885079
If you're looking to try the old "get an out of state permit to CC below my states legal limit" thing then id recommend Maine. Couldn't find much info out there on the subject but from what i did find it's technically legal(at least in my state) but your average cop may not know that and your local prosecutor may be very displeased with you if it comes to their attention. Personally i just waited tell my state passed permitless carry.

>>33892025
Sound is literally pressure waves, and loudness is a measure of pressure over a given area.
5.56 is a higher-pressure cartridge than 12ga or 22lr, so it's typically louder.
Also that shooter may have had a rifle equipped with a muzzle brake that redirects the expanding gases at the muzzle and makes the gun even louder.

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Shot her for the first time today. Quite a few malfunctions. Mostly soft primer strikes.

Gonna do a full take down and cleaning. Should that fix the issue?
Any other M1Afags here?

>>33892053
I was in the market for one however with the recent events I doubt I'll be buying any products from Springfield Armory

>>33892065
This was a private sale from a guy who bought it in 2010. Springfield saw none of my money.

WHY WONT U LET ME POST

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Plebian: Full stock
Contrarian: Pistol grip/birdshead
Patrician: Blackhawk folder

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What's a better way to rebuild a receiver; TIG, or MIG?

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>>33891836
No clue. My wife had it already when I met her, I think she got it from her grandparents?

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Does this handguard exist in real life, and if so, what's it called and how much would it be?

>>33892566
It's an M16 m203 handguard

>>33892566
>>33892570
LMT apparently has some (new manufacture?) without the leaf sight for $100. Just be aware there isn't a lower handguard because there's supposed to be a m203 there

http://www.lmtstore.com/m203/m203-sights-and-handguard-kits/m203-mounting-hardware-kit-less-leaf-sight-assembly-mounts.html

Kentucky fag here.

Do I need a magazine plug for a shotgun if it's for home defense? People have told me different things. I know for foul hunting you have to have it plugged.

>>33892303
When done right the mechanical differences between them are small enough that you should use whichever you're better at or whichever you're able to find appropriate sticks for.

>>33881589
There will be a lot of what if questions. A lot about what to do after a shooting, etc etc.

Hopefully your instructor isn't a roided out ex military dude-bro who only talks about operatin' and how Glocks are god's gift to man.

>>33892609
Hell no you don't.

>>33892609
Only if you're defending your home from migratory birds.

>>33892599
>>33892570
Would it be possible to CNC a baseplate out of whatever material this is?

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>>33891675

What are the laws regarding shooting distances to other properties in Connecticut? I live on a 3.5 acre plot and a small band of raccoons have been consistently killing my chickens. Recently the band killed my entire flock, and before I get more chickens I would like to deal with the issue. I was thinking of purchasing a cheap .22lr and following the raccoons back into the wooded area of my property (My coop is fairly close to my neighbor's property) and shooting them. I know the CT law says not within 500 ft of an occupied dwelling, is there anything else I need to be cognizant of? The wiki says that setting up a .22 plinking range is OK if you're a few miles away from everyone, but I am not. The neighbors will be able to hear, obviously, but the problem has to be dealt with, these raccoons have an established pattern and know my chickens are easy food.

>>33892648
Lots of things are possible.

>>33892052
Thanks, also do you have any advice for reducing recoil firing the shotgun? Stings like a bitch because I'm a lanklet. I tense up and hold it tight but it's still a shoulder bruiser.

>>33892766
SS + GOMAD

>>33892824
Not really in a position to make that lifestyle change.

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>>33892874
100 pushups program

Better than nothing and this was a common technique with subguns and civilian rifle type pistols before the advent of the arm brace.

It works better than you'd expect but will never be as good as a stock.

>>33884241
Carry handle and paint the barrel black. Done

>>33892934
That's...pretty enticing. Still push ups don't really build a variety of muscles, do they?

>>33893080
Doing them with your hands in different positions work different parts... so technically yes

>>33892666
>After April 1, 2014 you will be required to possess a valid Eligibility Certificate to Purchase Long Guns, if you do not already possess a pistol permit or eligibility certificate for the purchase of pistols or revolvers. You may also purchase ammunition with this certificate. You may apply directly to DESPP on a DPS-799-C form, which you may obtain on-line at www.ct.gov/despp, under the Special Licensing and Firearms page. It is a 5 year certificate and renewal will be sent 90 days prior to expiration. The fee is $35.00 plus $50.00 for the State fingerprint and $16.50 for the FBI fingerprint fee

Jesus fucking christ.
Would it be legal for me to purchase the rifle in NY state 10 minutes away and transport it in? I've looked everywhere for licensing requirements to possess and haven't found any in CT.

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>>33893080
They hit a good spread of muscles that are relevant to your shotgun problem.

Let's say I own a large gun collection, but am going to permanently move to Japan. What can I do with my guns? I don't want to sell them.

>>33893446
either sell or give them away, keep them in storage forever, or dont move to japan.
thats pretty much it.

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GUYS
WHAT IF
GUYS GUYS
WHAT IF
WE TOOK THE .45ACP AND MADE IT SHORTER
ONLY A REALLY LITTLE BIT THOUGH

>>33893446
Women won't respect you in Japan either m8

>>33893468
Perfection.

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>>33893468
GUYS
WHAT IF WE DID THE SAME THING BUT WITH 10MM AUTO

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>>33893446
No Japanese woman better than a 6/10 will want anything to do with your gaijin ass and your hapa child will grow up to be an ugly murderer.
Stay in America and keep your guns.

>>33893589
>implying i'd ever have children

>>33893446
Why the fuck would you move to Japan?

I need a two point sling for a PTR, any suggestions?

>>33893637
BFG VCAS

>>33893131
I humbly request a (you) from a knowledgeable person

Hymenopterans are gathering around the lightbulb outside my store. They are about the length of a thumbnail and there's a handful of them.

Should I get rid of them? Should I build a flamethrower for the "wasp" menace?

>inb44 /k/-Pest Control

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>>33889616

Fuck kike made guns and fuck you faggot.

>>33885556
Why would you store it hammer decocked? Rimfire guns should not be dry fired.

>>33893721
I'm not a fan of Isreal not it's just so sexy. There's also a similar looking Turk pistol but that's not much better.

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Hey /k/,

I wanna get a Louisville Slugger for keeping next to my door and maybe using to hit some balls around field near my house.

Are the thirty dollar ones okay?

Cup or not cup?

I kinda wanna get the white ash ones even if they aren't the best simply because it is a good last ditch weapon against skinwalkers.

Any recommendations?

>>33893878
If only there was a more effective weapon you could use...like a projectile thrower of some description to deal damage at any range. I wonder if that exists.

>>33894027
Dude I have like 30 guns I just want a bat for lols.

>>33893878
Of course you should get one... just as long as you don't bring a bat to a gun fight.

I lived in NYC for many years, and believe you me, probably everyone has a bat or some other clubbing object handy in their apartment. Me: baseball/softball bats, cricket bat, fuckton of hockey sticks, skee-ball in a sock, bike chain, tennis/racquetball racquets, can of Raid, couple of pool sticks and a 14" Stihl chainsaw next to my door.

And that was in a good neighborhood.

>>33894187
Think I should get a full length bat or a t-ball length?

>>33892553
So you married into it...

What time do you go to sleep?

>>33894521

You can find shit like that all the time at estate sales, or consignment stores. The latter are all over the place just full of used furniture.

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Alright /k/ so I'm trying to trade a 10/22 for pic related. The guy is adamant on doing it through an FFL since I don't have a P&R license. The thing is I'm only 20 so I'm not sure if this would count as a pistol and they wouldn't transfer it to me? Would I be in the clear?

>>33893878
I'm no baseball player but I would imagine the $30 ones are the equivalent of $30 knives, low quality and disposable. I've seen actual MLB level bats made of polymer or aluminum go for like $300+. If it were me I'd get a $60 aluminum one just for fucking around with

>>33894816
Looks to me like it has a stock and 16" barrel so it'd be a "rifle." Unless it's shorter than 16" and they have a Form 1 on it for an SBR. If the barrel was shorter and didn't have the stock it would be a pistol. I think you're fine. Definitely do through an FFL

>>33894816
Who cares? Walther .22LRs are dogshit. Keep your 10/22.

>>33894816
>>33894915
indeed, seems to be in rifle configuration as far as legality is concerned

>>33894816
That is not a pistol in any sense of the word. Stock & 16"+ barrel is a rifle

>>33894958
>>33894915
>>33894963
Awesome. I wasn't sure because of the folding stock.
>>33894932
What's wrong with them

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>>33894521
>>33894570
Estate sales can be the shit if you get lucky. You can get some bad ass antiques for cheap if the family doesn't know shit. I'm pretty sure most of her furniture came from estate sales.

>>33895014
>What's wrong with them
The "Walther" .22s are actually made by a company called Umarex that makes everything out of zinc and pot metal.

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>>33895014
They're literally just a pot metal .22LR action jammed into a variety of airsoft body kits.
They're cheap, unreliable trash for making a quick buck off of COD kiddies who want a real steel MP5 or whatever.
The 10/22 that you already have is an infinitely better option, even if you want a body kit that makes it look like something else, like a WA2000 or something.

>>33894027
Ugg say no. Only weapon for man is club.

>>33895535
Nailgun blanks.

>>33885079

Even in az you need to be 21 to cc.

What's a good gun for shooting black people?

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>>33895594

What are good handgun calibers for defense against full-grown bears? I want to go on walks in the forest but I don't want to get fucking mauled

>>33895754
454 casull

>>33895754

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDgBY2PbnO4

>>33895776
how long does it take the spray to kill the bear?

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Is the Arcus 94KA MK3 a good hi power clone?

>>33895046
>>33895056
>pot metal

The AR15 is made primarily out of fucking aluminum. At least most pots are steel.

Is there a site like CamelCamelCamel or Slickdeals for guns and ammo?

Something that's essentially just an aggregator that alerts you to really good deals.

>>33895899
gunbot.net and ammoseek for ammo. for guns i just check /r/gundeals every few days

>>33895853
>I don't know what pot metal is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_metal

>>33895754
Bear guns are a meme. Just leave the fucking bears alone, and they'll leave you alone.

>>33895914
there's literally nothing wrong with pot metal

>>33895918
Sure, if you're making a cap gun or some toy soldiers.

>>33895931
the hi point is made of pot metal and it is damn near unbreakable

>>33895904

TY

>>33895954
No, HiPoints are made out of a zinc alloy. It's specifically formulated, not made out of whatever scraps of crap are lying about. Zinc alloy firearms are cheap junk, but they're not as bad as something made from pot metal.

Did that canadanon delete his own thread to hide the evidence?

If so good lad.

If it was the jannies then you did a good deed for him anyways.

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>>33893589
>Implying I wouldn't thoroughly fuck the actual shit out of bottom right.
You've got me fucked up, Anon.

>>33895954
You're either retarded or baiting. Either way, consider killing yourself. Actually, you know what, don't consider it. Just go ahead and do it. We'll wait.

>>33896242
>he hasn't seen iraqveteran8888's hi point torture tests

>>33891675
Smith and Wesson is the only one. Ruger tried but since you can find 686s occasionally for less than a gp100, and the triggers and fit finish quality don't even compare, the choice is clear.
Inb4 too expensive, buy a j frame for 350

Can I legally own a LAV-25 in Pennsylvania, with a functional 25mm cannon and machine guns?

Also if not, looking for any wheeled military vehicle with a 20mm or larger cannon legal to own in PA.

>>33896554
Good luck. We can drive them on the road in Aussie land but only for work with a heap of permits

Do guns have a break in period? Cocking my M&PP is very hard.
>Inb4 that's what she said

>>33891646
battle rifles don't give a fuck what you feed them

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Guys I'm thinking of buying a bolt-action rifle but I have a few things I want to be possible.
I want to easily change the barrel, and I want it to be convertible to 22LR easily.
If possible, also magazine fed and with a good aftermarket.
Is there anything here that I wouldn't be paying out the ass for ( Europe here ) ?
One of the reasons is that I'm so autistic I think that most .22LR bolt actions being sold here are shit quality and I want something that is more sturdy and durable than necessary.

>>33896957
you will never find a gun that will let you swap between full sized calibers and .22 LR

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>>33897083
The AR-15 does.

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someone recommend me a barrel flashlight mount pls

>>33897130
It's an intermediate round with the same diameter as .22lr, you yutz. The reason you can swap between 5.56mm and .22lr is because you just need to replace the bolt; the barrels and chambers stay the same.

>>33887028
If you want a double trigger can fire both barrels at once, useless but fun.

>>33897083
At what point did he mention full-sized cartridges ?

>>33897134
Don't mount a flashlight to your barrel

>>33897171
His post includes a picture of a full sized rifle. Unless we're going to play stupid autismo semantics games, a normal person would conclude his picture is relevant to his text.

>>33897194
>Muh barrel harmonics

Yeah, it's a problem if you're shooting for tight MOA at 500 yards. Not a fucking issue for peeps using rifles closer than that.

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>>33897194
I don't really care to buy a rail just to mount a light so what do you recommend then?

>>33891777
>>33896877
That's good to hear anons. Thanks for your insight

>>33897194
why not?

>>33897205
If you're gonna be like this, just take your (You) and get the fuck out out.

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>>33897214
Hose clamp on your FSB. Use whatever light you like as long as it it bright and has a rear push button.

>>33897214
If you have a standard plastic oval handguard, there are screw in rail sections available.

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>>33897229
Oh cool I didn't even think of that. Thanks anon.

What are the most American guns, those everyone should own at least one of in their homes?

I'm thinking of an AR-15 and a M1911.

Any suggestions for revolver and shotgun?

Are truglo optics worth a damn? For an AR? Too poorfag for the foreseeable future to get top shelf stuff

>>33897321
>Remington 870 12g
>Model 19 in 357mag

yay or nay?
https://www.classicfirearms.com/original-k98-stock-set-w-all-hardware
Need to put my czech k98 (not vz24) in a stock

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>>33891453
For a nice 1911 around $1,000, I highly recommend the Dan Wesson Heritage. It's their base model and if you're at a decent gun store you can even get it BELOW $1k (mine was about $960).

Pic related it's mah Dan Wesson Heritage with custom grips that give me wood.

>>33897321
I'll second the guy that said 870 and Model 19.

A lever action from Winchester would also be an american staple. Probably in 30-30 or maybe in a pistol caliber.

>>33897496
Shoot irons until you can get a good optic, it'll make you a better shooter in the long run.

That last round is always a bitch to load into a magazine. Is it safe if I keep putting the rim under the feed lips, then straightening it out and pushing it into place?

>>33898142
It would probably be better in the long run if you were to use a loading tool like most people with weak little bitch hands.

>>33881873
Consider how long the AK had been used. Also consider what the M16, not just the A1, had gotten a reputation for when it first came out. Finally, consider just how many modifications needed to be made, and what dumb grunts needed to learn, in order for their faith to come back to the AR family.

If it helps, fucking use the Google.

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Guys, I need help. What's a solid flashlight and mount I can use that would compliment my shotgun's A E S T H E T I C? Thanks!

Any happenings in NY, saw a ton of National Guard or Army up-armored HMMWVs on the highway yesterday, guessing they were heading from Fort Drum to somewhere in the direction of Buffalo. They were leaving I-81 south and getting onto I-90 west.

>>33898293
Surefire DSF-870

>>33898466
I have a Savage 69RXL. Anything else?

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Unisssued Yugo SKS $550 or
Argentinian mauser in real fucin nato for ~500
This is my first funs purchase for myself.

The SKS seems really overpriced.

>>33898546
http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/flashlights-accessories/flashlight-mounts/1-light-mount-sku100000400-1537-5806.aspx
and a Surefire G2X Tactical

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Anyone know where to get cheap 7mm Mauser ammo? Is surplus even available?

>>33898435
Nope, just thier one weekend a month

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>>33886067
>tfw look, act, and dress like a homeless man
>disowned by my parents for acting too "feral"
>people give me a wide berth except for other hobos
>poor but CC an 1858 pietta repro I bought when I was 12
>mfw never had to draw on people
>mfw people are now more likely to give me money than mug me.
>mfw

>>33898720
Midway has Prvi for 86cpr
how cheap were you wanting
have you considered rolling your own

>>33895899
slick guns for sure (their new domain is gun.deals).
>>33896739
yes, but some more than others. metal to metal surfaces wear together and springs loose strength though use.
>>33897725
im tempted to pick on of those up myself. my rc k98 stock is messed up and replacement stocks ive seen go for 1.5x to 2x the price of that.
>>33898606
id pick the sks, but youre right- the sks is overpriced. i dont know much about 308 mauser prices, but that seems over priced as well.

>>33890247
Just get one of those diesel airguns that can drop an elk and voila, you've kept the ATF man at bay with your skynet dindu eradication unit 5000.

>>33898836
I have considered reloading but I have no idea where to start

>>33886067
I rock hipster clear framed Warby Parkers, Diesel jeans, crepe-soled Clarks shoes, and plaid shirts that help me fit in at the local overpriced farm-to-table taco and kombucha truck.

Nobody suspects you're carrying when you look like you just stumbled away from the nearest Bernie Sanders rally.

Hipster cammo, at least if you live anywhere near a city, is the ultimate gray man scheme.

>>33899091
youtube vids would be good just a free resource to familiarize yourself with the steps.
heres another great resource
>http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=399
the first step is reading and learning. reloading is fairly simple once you get the basics. if you have the desire and effort, reloading is a very worthwhile endeavor

>>33899091
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=reloading

>>33899222
>>33899231
Thanks, I should really start reloading 7mm and 30 carbine

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Would this make a good melee weapon or is it too unwieldy or stupid?

http://www.511tactical.com/c6-multi-sledge.html

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>>33899269
just get a normal Halligan tool

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>>33881847
>. not even trying ti cause a shitstorm.

Right..

Come back when you own guns.

I'm in the market for a uzi, cobray or mac, (something of that style), but I'm not too familiar with them beyond the obvious clichés of Miami, Cocaine, urban culture, open bolt, etc, etc.. What's my best choice if I plan on using it at the range and getting it scrathced up in the woods while varmint hunting?

>>33899917
MACs are classic beginner NFA, but they run upwards of $6000 these days.
Uzis are nicer, but cost twice as much or more depending on whether you go for a registered bolt (restricted to one caliber) or registered receiver.
For obvious reasons I would advise against subjecting transferables to unnecessary wear and tear, and against varmint hunting with handgun calibers in general.

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Could a charge for a gunpowder actuated nail gun be used as a primer for the purpose of reloading ammo from "scratch?"

>>33900001
I was thinking more of a current production one thats semi only.. more like a cobray M12 in 380, Walther-Uzi 22lr, etc.
My problem with it is I have no clue on them beyond their older open bolt counterparts.
Under $1000 is where i'm looking.

Does anyone have the vocaroo someone on here posted of this fucking jackass he knew talking about his mosin nagant?

He said something about replacing the barrel with titanium alloy and modifying the 'thing that sparks the bullet and makes it fly', he compared it to a barrett 50 cal and said shit like, if you shot someone in the heart with it it would decimate it

God fuck I need to hear it again

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Anyone that has some experience with airsoft?

Thinking of getting something single shot and roughly around 400FPS for a match that's coming up, but don't know if i'm getting a shit weapon. Is Cabelas any good?

What handguns can fit these criteria?

>developed and made in the USA
>good for concealed carry
>can put down a black bear
>good for home defense
>is not a 1911, S&W 10 or 19

>>33898908
Thank you

>>33891481
try reading the post next time nigger

>>33901413
>asp
stay away from any rebrand/storebrand airshit. usually they cost more and somehow perform worse.

>>33901781
Any suggestions to where I could get a non-airshit rifle?

>>33901823
taking a non airshit rifle to an airshit match is going to get you kicked off the field or arrested depending on how non airshit it is.

>>33901715
Desert Eagle L5 .357 Mag
Coonan .357 Compact
S&W 69
S&W 686P
S&W 610
Bren 10
Ruger Security Six
Ruger GP100

>>33900248
I'm not convinced that a semi-auto subgun "pistol" would be enough fun to justify its existence, even as an SBR starter; especially not a "Walther" .22LR "Uzi", for reasons discussed previously ITT.
MP5 pistols are the obvious exception, but those are way outside your stated budget.

>>33882464
>Have a side charging upper
my nigga

Help, I need pictures of aesthetic gun stores or manufacturing plants, preferable of an older architecture.

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>>33903907
FN Herstal

>>33903907

The old Colt Armory.

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Don't have much hope here but I'll try anyway. Anybody have any idea what the markings "1250" above "24" could mean on an old ass bow? I'm guessing it's around 60-70 years old and it was made by the outdoor sports manufacturing company. Pic related. Will post engraving next

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>>33904108
Also it'd be cool if someone could tell me how to clean it up or polish it

>>33904138
minwax paste if you realy want to, but a silicone impregnated instrument polishing cloth will work.

>>33900881
Nevermind, I found it

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0h25qJa5XcT

>>33881408
What is /k/'s opinion on ZQI SS109?

I'm cheap, and so is this:
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=zqi556ss109

>>33904026
Seconded.

I like the slavic-ness of the Molot Arsenal, myself.

>>33903810
Look, I live in fucking America in the good ol' SEC. I don't have to justify or explain my reason for a gun cause fuck you. All I want to know is what is a reliably decent jamal-looking gat, like pic related by, masterpiece arms, cobray, iwi or whatever to splat squirrels, Prarie dogs, hogs or maybe even a home invader if I just so happen to leave it on my beside table, just because I fucking can.
Now, can I get any help as to what's the best cheap, pure, fun I can get, just because I fucking can, under $1000?

>>33889632
The super cheap bright orange foam ones are ok in a pinch, but honestly investing in a nice pair of in-ear plugs is so worth it. A lot more comfortable.

>>33904486
If you insist, the IWI Uzi Pro pistol is fine.
It's based on the Micro Uzi, which sucks; I wish they made a Mini version (mini uzi is best girl).
It's got railz for your optic and weaponlight, but the mag release has been moved up to the rear of the trigger guard, so you can't save any shekels by using surplus Uzi mags.

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>>33894892
>MLB level bats
>made of polymer or aluminum

What's the best proxy for stoppan powah in a round?
Is it just the results from ballistics gel tests?

i want to stock up on ammo for a shtf scenario. i want at least 10k rounds of 9mm, .223, 7.62x39, and .308. what's a good cost effective ammo to go with? is tula and wolf ball ammo good enough?

>>33894892
>MLB level bats.
>polymer
>aluminum

how stupid are you?

>>33893878
Just get the heaviest, longest one they have.

>>33906741
>is tula and wolf ball ammo good enough?
fuck no, ignoring the fact that its just worse steel case ammo is more likely to rust up when stored improperly. tulas fine for range use but you dont want that shit for longterm storage. your cheap bulk ammo wont show up in spam cans it will be in paperboxes.

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>>33906812
what should i get then? is wolf gold good enough?

>>33906741
God no. If you're storing it long term then get brass case, it won't completely erode like steel. Tula and Wolf are for training or plinking purposes, you learn how to shoot with it or you shoot it at the range, not to hunt or defend your life with it. Store in oil and/or metal containers.
It would be a good idea to decide between .223 or 7.62x39, you don't really need 2 different intermediate calibers, especially since you have a .308. The best thing would be military surplus brass case or the closest thing to it like NATO stamped cases. Factory loads would be the most reliable, but if you can't afford that much reserve ammo, then reloading could be a good option for you, especially if you want to have ammo after the apocalypse or whatever happens.

i got a finish related question, I want to blue a knife I own but the wooden handles don't come off, will the blueing chemicals damage the wood or should they be fine?

bonus stupid question: how fine sandpaper should I polish the blade before I add the blue? I already got it down to 600 grit and plan to go at least a little farther

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Early revolvers rested the hammer against the cap/cartridge when not shooting?

>>33907622
yes, usually they would be kept with one chamber empty so if something bumped the hammer it wouldn't go off

Remove Kebab.

What's a Kebab, and why are we removing it?

>>33907839
lurk moar

fine. kebab is slang for middleastern person

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Can anyone identify this? first i thought it was AR 18 but im not sure about anymore.

is there a 1911 equivalent of the FEG Hi Power? by equivalent i mean is there a good 1911 clone for like $250-300 that can take standard 1911 parts