What is the most powerful of all fictional firearms? Pic

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I'll bite.

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>>33862373
>fictional

>>33862500

40k is fucking retarded but I'm pretty sure a bolter round is more powerful than 7.62 NATO

The graviton gun from Blame! for sheer effect.

If you want to destroy absolutely anything: the Speaking Gun.

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>>33862657
>>33862658

Not a firearm.

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>>33862373
>most powerful
It's just a shotgun mate

>>33862671
Neither are these then.
>>33862486
>>33862616

>>33862697

Missed >>33862616

Don't even know what the fuck >>33862486 is

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>>33862373
literally capable of draining your life and firing a fucking black hole

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>>33862691
Nah.

>>33862723
>he hasn't seen Outlaw Star
Shame be upon you.

Xeelee Starbreaker pistol.

There's not even any real competition.

>>33862740

>using the sights
>on a bolter

that's the most ridiculous part of that image

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>>33862373
Bolters, like close to everything in 40k is pretty smalltime compared to a lot of other sci-fi.
Probably because all the writers for it are noguns britbongs.

For contrast, think of how many space marines it would take to kill a single cap-trooper.

>>33862616
/r/ing the webm of the Fallout 4 player who barely misses taking a fatman to the face in VATS. I can't find it

>>33862947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXvciKOS8hQ
No webm but close enough

>>33862740
>depleted deuterium core

Wouldn't that be a bad choice since it's so light, wouldn't led or depleted uranium be better?

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>>33862373
Either the Lazy Gun or pic related. Probably the Lazy Gun.

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>>33862956
You're the man. Have an SAR.

>>33862964
40k writers cannot into science.

>>33862964
The standard round is explosive.

I guess the "deuterium" is supposed to be a mini h-bomb or something

>>33862971
>Lazy gun
mah nigguh

>>33862740
>depleted deuterium
>depleted Hydrogen with an extra neutron
Beyond the part where it is the second lightest gas in the universe, how do you deplete it?

>>33863114
Deuterium-Tritium is the way to make a h-bomb. Of course anything will fuse if you try hard enough.

>>33863192
Since depleted Uranium is just uranium with all the fissile isotopes taken out, I'd guess depleted deuterium is just plain hydrogen.

Games Workshop is retarded.

>>33863244
DU is natural Uranium that has had the U-235 filtered out because 235 is the primary reactor isotope.

What remains is mostly U-238, but natural Uranium is mostly 238 anyways.

>>33863282
Thats what I said.

>>33862373
What is that produces blackholes?

>>33863128
Just don't point it at the sun.

>>33862956
Awesome as that video may be, super shitty that the AI takes a shot that would kill itself if it succeeded.

>>33863309
Or at the ground beneath your feet.
And don't take it apart

>>33862740
That blast compensator is located behind the chamber.

How could the 40K writers not know that such an arrangement would only exacerbate muzzle climb?

>>33862691
>>33862740
We need to make gyrojets for 12 gauge shells.

>>33863350
Britbongs.

A universe with so much potential, and it had to be taken over by fucking morons.

>>33863353
you would make /tg/ very happy.

>>33863335
Or that it took 5 seconds to realize the gun needed to be reloaded. But that's just the tip of the giant turd that Fallout 4 is.

>>33862740

>hasn't seen some animu and/or mango

oh no

>>33863353
Whatever happened to FRAG-12?

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the father of op fictional gun the BFG

>>33862947
>>33862956
holy shit thanks for bringing this to my attention

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>>33863353
Microjets don't seem very complicated, I imagine the most difficult part would be properly timing the rockets ignition.

>>33862373
Ryno from Ratchet and Clank or mini-nuke from Jak 3

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plebs

>>33863475
Cordite?

>>33862947
I gotchu senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7GvAs9fZnI

>>33863377
Sounds good to me.

>>33863419
Was a popular meme for a while then disappeared.

>>33863475
Some guys tried making shit like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUfkEXf3b8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkGTbCt7Nxg

>>33863484
This.

>>33862930
Well there is lot of more advanced stuff, but its jewed by Admech.

>>33862373
>most powerful
>ap5
Chortling_admech.purityseal

>>33862614
Shamefur.

>>33863419
>Whatever happened to FRAG-12
scruffy.jpg

>>33864084
>can only be used on certain surfaces

can't even make a portal to the dumpster where it belongs

>>33863484
Was gonna post this

>>33864106
On the moon you can go anywhere

>>33864106
>Fire at the moon
>Fire at a bathroom floor
>Poop on the moon

You don't understand how powerful this is.

>>33864418
only works on moondust

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A proppa ork

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Quick run down of the comic.
>new sniper rifle
>cartridges are filled with gas and powder
>can kill people well past 2.5 miles
>stuff happens and bad gets the gun
>explodes in his face because much 1943 steel

Question is can this be done now? Cartridges filled with gas?

>>33863493
Are you also an Iraq vet?

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>>33863006
8/10 would commit deer rimjob suicide.

>>33862614
Seeing as bolters are supposed to be 20mm HE chuckers like the OICW, you would be correct.

>>33865354
What is with /k/ and wanting to fuck deer?

>>33865307
Gas cartridges were tested with anti-tank rifles in the second world war - The intent was to penetrate a vehicle and force to crew to abandon it.
In reality they generally shattered on the armor and made life difficult for anyone attempting to assault the vehicle with mines or charges..

>>33862964
>>33862986
>>33863114
>>33863192
>>33863204
>>33863244
Or the AdMech just put a fancy sciency name on it, and what it really is is something totally different.

>>33865414
A bit plausible considering only magos and up actually know science or how some things work. The lower ranks all do things by rote and ritual.

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>>33862971
And the thread is over

>a gun that can kill the past

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>>33862373
It meets the definition of firearm.

>>33863475
Machining the nozzles is complicated, expensive, and time intensive. Fuck the timing, just use a gunpowder kicker charge to get the whole thing up to lethal velocity out of the barrel. The rocket can carry it the rest of the way. As a bonus, you don't have to worry about fucking your barrel up as badly if the rocket doesn't fully ignite until after the round is out of the barrel.

>>33863192
The same way you make plastic composites harder than steel.

>>33865572
You don't.

>>33865377
/k/ is full of fucking furries.
Always wished they'd stay lurkers.

>>33863484
>when you can mag dump into any vehicle your opponent uses and come out on top

>>33862723
>Don't even know what the fuck >>33862486 is
In an era where mana was hard to come by, mages started packing their spells into bullets. A few of the guns used to fire these spells ended up in non-mage hands. The shells are hard to come by, but are the easiest counter to Tao magic users who can make normal weapons useless.

>>33862725
Though those three shell types are near-mythical and can only be acquired on Tenrei IF the three wizards like you.

>>33862971
>Lowest power setting

>>33865414
I feel no need to be an apologetic for 40k's rampant silliness. I can enjoy it as-is.

>>33866014
I thought that was animal fuckers.

Furries generally just wear fursuits n shit.

>>33862373

Wasn't there a rifle in the Hyperion Cantos that could level mountains, but was still completely man-portable?

Christ, that series is crazy.

>>33862930
Probably one, given how the cap-trooper suits are the equivalent of a MK II set of power armor for the space marines.

Space marines use MK VI or VII I think.

I wouldn't call everything small fry in WH40k, given how Death star equivalent weapons can be found frequently on Imperial Ships.

>>33863335
>Far Harbor
>mother fucker Hunter with Fat Man sitting in a Fod damn watchtower and kicking my ass
>eventually decide to stealth until I'm close enough to sprint underneath him, fighting the whole way
>work my way to the top, I got you now fucker
>take a mini nuke to the face the moment my head pops up
>dude was not 3 feet away from me
>fucking kills us both
What a load of shit.

>>33863484
>12 rounds of automatic .50 caliber explosive rounds
Absolute horseshit.

>>33866014
That's just straight bestiality, bud.

>>33865414
Don't be such a cock-sucking fanboy.

>>33862740
Suddenly using a complex linkage of small metal parts to drive a metal pin into a small bomb on the back of a bullet seems kind of anachronistic.

Why don't guns today have piezo electric triggers

>>33863484
now i wanna play some custom edition

>>33863430
The F don't stand for fancy.

>>33871557
beautiful fun gun

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>>33865633
I think that's the joke, anon.

>>33862971
Holy shit is been so long since I've read Blame. Loved that gun. Pretty sure it ripped his arm off one of the times he shot it at higher power.

>>33863493
Ryno brings back memories man

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>>33862373
this was my first thought >>33862657

this might be a close second... if it will let you fire

>>33866887
I play 40k, I have black templars, the cap trooper has nuclear missiles, and grenades, and mines, and better mobility than a jump pack, they have tau-tier jetpacks. Cap trooper wins 1v1

>>33862964
>>33863114
Yes, the bolter rounds are supposed to be tiny atomic warheads. No, the britbongs can't into science, or guns.

>>33863498
Underrated post

>>33862373
There are so many better answers in just 40k alone than the fucking bolter.....

How about Distort weapons?
Or the relics like the Pain Glove, or the Dark Eldar equivalent? They directly stimulate every neuron in any being that has nerves at all to send pain signals directly ffs.
Or fucking melta guns?

Have you even SEEN the shokk attack gun? Fucking ORKS man, the DAKKA

>>33872173
>muh fuggin boring box gun tho

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>>33872086
I don't think cap-troopers are gonna be spamming nuclear missiles on a single space marine, thou in dire straits...

As for grenades and mines, space marine have those too.

Also, teleporter packs.

Ultimately though, first shot matters.

>>33872502
when you wanna be a human loyalist till death but you see those tempting tau aesthetics

HNNNNGGGGGG

>>33865540
That's what I was talking about, getting the rocket to reliably ignite right after it clears the muzzle.

>>33874521
Doesn't have to be immediate. You've got wiggle room. Make sure it ignites at some point after it leaves a 24 inch barrel and you're golden.

>>33874577
I imagine the kicker charge would be small, so the rocket would have a small window before it starts seriously loosing velocity.

Why 24 inch?

>>33862956
(Angry barking)

>>33874707
Longest common shotgun barrel length.

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>>33872634
Tau has plenty things tempting.

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https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/d/da/GaussRifle_SingleShot_1.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20140710185835

This is the sound of power armor being punched through like it's paper.

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Op

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>>33862373
Keeping it strictly to chemically propelled metallic projectiles? The Shredder from Turok 2 loaded with explosive shells.
>Each shot can ricochet up to a dozen times or more
>Each time the projectile ricochets it causes an explosion
>Each explosion is about 2 meters wide
>Laser accurate
>Effective against everything
>Every surface around you increases your potential firepower by 2

Downsides
>Relatively low rate of fire
>10 round capacity

>>33875143
>Downsides
>Relatively low rate of fire
>10 round capacity
>RL frame rate drops to 1fps when firing

>>33875157
>implying that it wasn't intentional slow-mo so you can bask in the glow of your carnage

>>33866887
>Probably one, given how the cap-trooper suits are the equivalent of a MK II set of power armor for the space marines.
Except with every one of them having a jetpack, a guided rocket launcher, atomic weapons and a soldier underneath the armor who doesn't consider running at the enemy with a chainsaw-sword to be a good idea compared to engaging from kilometers away.

Come to think of it, why doesn't the imperium casually use atomic weapons?
With their level of technology, every weapon bigger than a heavy bolter could be throwing kilotons of explosion at the enemy.

>given how Death star equivalent weapons can be found frequently on Imperial Ships.
Bullshit.
The death star makes planets outright explode while exterminatus glasses them.
There was some fluff where some tyranids survived a planet being exterminatus'd by boring underground.

>>33862614
It's a fully automatic RPG launcher.

Still, it's fairly shit as far as sci-fi weapons go.

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In revelation 19, the sword that comes out of jesus's mouth and shoots fire, killing the entire population of the world

>>33866887
>Probably one

Confirmed for not knowing anything about Starship Troopers.
These guys are more mobile than the fastest Tau battlesuit, have the armor that is better than Terminator shit and have a ton of high-power weaponry, including a tactical nuke.

When you absolutely, positively have to kill those damn bugs, 40k shit does not even begin to cut it.

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>>33875469
With pet attack birds to clean up the mess, I suppose?

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>>33875472
And obviously you don't know jack shit about 40k.

Ever heard the Tyranids? Anything the bugs have, the nids have something ten times better and thousands more enmass.

You know what they do to take care of these things if the usual, hack, slash, burn, and poison doesn't work? They blow up the planet, to the fucking core.

And you know what? That's just your average Tuesday.

>>33875521
I am coming confused by your lousy logical structure, who is doing what and when to whom?

>>33875469
is this before or after the dude starts tripping balls and has sex with the 10-thousand eyed goat because he thought it was god or something

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>>33872173
I concur

>>33875540
>When you absolutely, positively have to kill those damn bugs, 40k shit does not even begin to cut it.

It ain't the logical structure that's the problem, it's the reader's comprehension.

>>33875555
You're actually medically retarded in so.e way if all you can respond with is ad hom. I'm another anon and was just talking about the post I linked to. Your subject is nids and then it gets confusing.

Seriously wasting my fucking time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZZEPoVb4c

Honestly though, the "grav rifles" in the "posleen war" novel series probably beat everything else through sheer absurdity and the authors lacking sense of physics and scale of energy.

>>33863244
Don't be a redneck, all uranium isotopes are radioactive, it's just that U235 is 7 times more active than U238.

>Halo Incineration Cannon
>Judge Dredd's Lawgiver
>Whatever that gun is from Fifth Element
>Item 62 / Gauss Rifle from STALKER
>Phasers

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I'm going to say Megatron

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This

My diary desu.

>>33865238
Still not enough dakka.

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Syd Mead original concept for Deckard's sidearm was gun that was implied to create a miniature black hole, which if thats true would make it the most absurdly powerful personal firearm in all of fiction.

>>33862956
>>33863536
The NPC was probably using a gamepad too.

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>>33862373
Kiriko's Armour Magnum from Armored Trooper Votoms
look this video then you know why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tVvideTrXY

>>33863484
Better sniper rifle than the anti-material rifle.

>>33862930
>Bolters, like close to everything in 40k is pretty smalltime compared to a lot of other sci-fi.

Lol. Retard detected.

>>33876340
I'm so sorry nobody else is jerking off to your self mastubatory fantasies.

>>33876326
that scene was so great and the chemrail rifle

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>>33875521
>Anything the bugs have, the nids have something You haven't read it, have you?
If you had you'd know the average arachnid warrior carries a beam weapon closer to 40k's plasma rifles than the tyranid's retarded "shoot beetles or globs of acid at the enemy" guns.
The tyranids don't even have multi-kiloton landmines.

>>33876340
Lol. the bolter's effects are never described as being any harder-hitting than a 20mm cannon from the cold war or earlier.
I reiterate: smalltime.

>>33876326
>>33876440
What does this even do?

>>33862971
When are they going to make a show and dub it so I don't have to read this backwards and in moon runes

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>>33862373
>>33862740
Somewhat related, for muh tacticool SM chapter I came up with this design for a bullpup bolter with an integrated, not underslung or attached, chainsaw bayonet.
>pretty much the same size as a standard bolter
>longer barrel allows greater velocity, so the bolt is deadlier at point blank range before the thrusters engage
>internal motor for the integrated chainsaw, so it's sturdier and stronger than a simple underslung chainsword
>redistribution of weight and ergonomics allows for easier one handed firing if need be
Basically the size/proportions are almost the same as a standard bolter. And if we assume 40k spehs magic technology, I was always under the impression that a bolter has the same internal mechanics as a bolt pistol, just that it has bigger rounds and a longer receiver. So there should technically be enough space to make a bullpup conversion that has enough space in the body of the gun for the chainsaw.
Any thoughts?

>>33876724

It seems to be a kit that allows the weapon to use airburst ammunition.

https://youtu.be/rMhhUsxf67Q

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Rocket Launcher, Poison Dart Gun, Self targetting 1200RPM projectile, Liquid Nitrogen, Flamethrower, Net Launcher, and inbuilt self destruct.

It's got everything a freedom fighter needs.

>>33865540
You literally just described the wh40k bolter ammo

>>33877407
>implying I didn't know that

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>>33862373

>>33877565
The range on that thing is to short. Besides, the damage output is pretty shit. The sniper is overall a better gun

>>33875586
>Seriously wasting my fucking time.

Are you so lost you do not know where you are? You're already wasting your time on 4chan, and you're whining about it?

Also read the entire chain before you start getting all confused. Now calm your bitch tits.

You know what, fuck it, I'll explain anyways. Sorry we got off on the wrong foot.

I was discussing with the other guy who would, being a cap trooper vs a space marine. Then he said, as quote, "positively have to kill those damn bugs, 40k shit does not even begin to cut it." Then I responded how the nids are far more powerful than the arachnids or bugs. There, happy?

>>33876694
>land raider has anything to define the effective battle

Aye what. Anyhow, GW doesn't really think everything through, and the lore is very consistent (fuck you Matt Ward/C.S. Goto).

Also cite where the average bug has beam weaponry. Skinnies don't count.

>>33877873
>the lore is very consistent

Isn't, sorry about that :P

Anyhow, nids don't just have beetle launchers, they also have spike guns, parasites that'll rip you from the inside out, infiltrators via genetic manipulation, acid that will melt most materials, and the occasional plasma.

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>>33865534
Not even the strongest gundam gun

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Amateurs

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>>33875521
>You know what they do to take care of these things if the usual, hack, slash, burn, and poison doesn't work? They blow up the planet, to the fucking core.

No, they only bombard the planet to the point everything on it reverts to rock.
Quoting Starship Troopers, that is not enough to kill the Bugs.

>"I do have one comment to make to any armchair strategist who has never made a drop. Yes, I agree
that the Bugs’ planet possibly could have been plastered with H-bombs until it was surfaced with
radioactive glass. But would that have won the war? The Bugs are not like us. The Pseudo-Arachnids
aren’t even like spiders. They are arthropods who happen to look like a madman’s conception of a giant,
intelligent spider, but their organization, psychological and economic, is more like that of ants or termites;
they are communal entities, the ultimate dictatorship of the hive. Blasting the surface of their planet would
have killed soldiers and workers; it would not have killed the brain caste and the queens — I doubt if
anybody can be certain that even a direct hit with a burrowing H-rocket would kill a queen; we don’t
know how far down they are. "

Exterminatus kills Tyranids, does not kill Bugs. Check.

Also, exterminatus is anything BUT an average day. Unlike your retarded ass, I know the 40k lore and it explicitly states how extremely rare exterminatus is.
>But m-muh Micheal Bay video games!

>>33877873
>Also cite where the average bug has beam weaponry.

>"Presently I got so that I could kill a Bug without wasting ammo or
juice, although I did not learn to distinguish between those that were harmless and those that were not.
Only about one in fifty is a warrior but he makes up for the other forty-nine. Their personal weapons
aren’t as heavy as ours but they are lethal just the same — they’ve got a beam that will penetrate armor
and slice flesh like cutting a hard-boiled egg"

>>33878187
>.454 casull apparently
> has standard size 1911 pistol grip

Do these animators even try?

>>33875560
>can't kill archangels

It's shit.

>>33878246
They're Japs, anon. Those poor husks of a once-proud nation barely know what their own rifles and sidearms look like, let alone the actual dimensions of a .454 cartridge.

>>33878203
>Exterminatus kills Tyranids, does not kill Bugs.
I don't see how when they can crack it open utterly destroying it.

>>33878697
>I don't see how when they can crack it open utterly destroying it.

Imo, a better way to say this would be that any exterminatus removes Tyranids but only one special kind would actually work against the bugs.

>>33862373
Thermal detonator
Bfg 9000
Arc welder
Redeemer
Seburon7
Photon burst
Defiler412e
Etc

>>33866868
>>33868198
>they think there's a difference
kek

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>>33879139
>He doesn't know where we are.

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>>33878203
>No, they only bombard the planet to the point everything on it reverts to rock

And then there is the Two-Stage Cyclonic Torpedoes.

As quote, "Two-Stage Cyclonic Torpedoes, which are a more exotic form of the standard Cyclonic Torpedoes, are the most common of a special class of rare Exterminatus weapons, designed for use against atmosphere-less or biologically-void worlds (Necron Tomb Worlds being the main example). These torpedoes possess two-stage warheads: The first stage is an unusually powerful Melta Charge that bores straight through a planet's surface all the way down to its core. The second stage is a modified Cyclonic Charge that destabilises it, in most cases physically destroying the planet from the inside out."

So that made your entire quoted passage pointless too, since that would rip the entire planet inside out. Only way the bugs would survive that is if they shat out spores into space like the almost always do.

>Exterminatus kills Tyranids, does not kill Bugs. Check.

Except they have Hive ships.

>Also, exterminatus is anything BUT an average day.

Except, when it is, if you take a look at how many times it has been done. Especially with Inquisitor Kuntman blowing planets up left and right thanks to then nids.

>Unlike your retarded ass, I know the 40k lore
>But m-muh Micheal Bay video games!

And here you just make yourself look silly.

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>>33877062

Well, they have been republishing the manga recently. Having big pages really does make a difference to the art.

http://www.uk-anime.net/manga/Blame!_-_Master_Edition_Vol._1.html

Netflix is also doing a Blame movie. It's actually coming out in literally a fortnight's time.

https://youtu.be/hwy806RC2-Q

>>33878187

That's nowhere near the "most powerful" fictional firearms, though. It's got a manstopping wallop, sure, but it's not something that can erase city blocks.

>>33878203
> glass planets surface
> Queens survive without any ecological inputs

Fuck that noise, Heinlein. How did they overcome the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

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Nobody's said scarab gun yet? I dunno about black holes, but this thing:

>shoots ludicrously explosive balls of plasma
>never overheats or runs out of charge

Only problem is that it doesn't have much range

>>33877400
legend

>>33862818
Anything from the Xeelee Sequence is going to just stomp out anything from any other franchise.

>>33879401
>Two-Stage Cyclonic Torpedoes
So a rare version of a weapon that the imperial navy doesn't even carry.

>Only way the bugs would survive that is if they shat out spores into space like the almost always do.
>Except they have Hive ships.
Come back when you've read the book.

>>33862373
Glitterboy Boomgun.

>>33879401
Tyranid invasions are not "average days". Desperate times call for desperate measures used repeatedly.

>>33875648
Fuck yes.
>Range UNLIMITED.

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The isher weapons, hands down.

>>33866441
Damn right. Anyone who takes 40k seriously is doing it wrong.

I'm in an Only War game where the Guard unit we're in comes from a planet with a priceless piece of archaeotech that broadcasts TV signals that only show spaghetti westerns (which they think are combat training videos) and worship the Man With No Name as an avatar of the Emperor. Naturally we all have giant revolvers and lever action lasguns

>>33862373

Probably the railgun from episode 3(?) of Neon Genesis Evangelion (the one with the giant floating diamond.)

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>>33862373
I present to you the most powerful set of keys in the universe
The Smith Corona Blotspitter

>>33865354
>suicide
no nigga that sounds like a good day

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>>33863372
Not sure about us being morons. 1/5 of the world with 1/4 of it's population is pretty good going, not to mention the history, architecture and general prowess that most other nations don't even come close to.

>>33886357
It's not a railgun, it fires a positron beam, IIRC.