>Made of wood and canvas >Maybe some modern materials >Long

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>>33839941
>inb4 Soviet Union already did this
>inb4 it actually worked

>>33839941
"silent running"
You have obviously never heard a radial plane before.

>>33839941
yeah, but the higher ups in most militaries would lose their shit if you even brought up the idea of using modernised "old" tech. Remember, if the cost is less than 100 million to buy and 30 million for 20 minutes of airtime its obsolete

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>>33839941

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>>33839941

Shilka

>>33839985
I believe "silent running" was predicated on "lol electric motor"
you do realize your batteries would pretty much take up all of your payload, right?

>>33839941
You just described an RC plane.
Also, the canvas and wood may not reflect radar, but that engine and battery will.

>>33839985
>See >>33839955
Cut engines, glide to target, drop payload.

Night Witches during WWII did this with frightening efficiency.

>>33840054
That I did not see, thanks.

>>33840021
That is a strangely beautiful airplane...

>>33840054
Nah bro. cheap walmart super Ah Hydro batts are around the corner. Just need to carefully dumb population about it. And make pretend some bullshit that only low volts is possible. While hackers nake their own stuf with cheap parts

>>33840088
Night time only use was not indicated in OP's post.

>>33840105
Super Tucano is best COIN aircraft. Makes my dick fucking diamonds. Currently being developed for DCS, too. Glee.

>>33840054
Yeah, perhaps. The technology is coming along though where batteries are becoming lighter while also maintaining a charge for much longer times.

Next generation batteries for electric cars for example, are simultaneously becoming lighter, more efficient, while being capable of going for much longer distances or much longer periods of time before needing a charge. It's not out of the question that in the near future we'll start seeing battery powered airplanes in the private sector. They'll be expensive, but they'll exist.

>>33840127
OP did mention daytime mission susceptibility to ground fire, and I assume it was OP who followed up with the Night Witches.

>>33840155
is it out of the question? of course not. does the military ever exactly always use the greatest and the best shit ever? not exactly.
besides, it'd take a fuck of a lot of torque and speed to keep the props spinning at any kind of speed to continue flight.
would certainly be nice for throttle response, though.

>>33840176
That's the beautiful thing though my dude, electric motors can produce torque like nobody's business and - as you mentioned - it can deliver it very quickly.

Why do you think the McLaren P1 is so insanely fast? It uses an electric motor in concert with a internal combustion engine to deliver power on demand the likes of which we used to pull ancient tree stumps out of the ground with.

>>33840210
but the problem is, that thing pukes out power because it's combustion-electric; it's basically a fucking genset.
getting a straight electric motor with power for a decently long flight inside a small aircraft, and then asking it to deal with keeping the prop speed fully constant? that's gonna be a hard damn job. it would at least have to be a 430v 3-phase motor for constant rpm, and those fuckers are real power hungry, plus you'd pretty much have to feed it straight current to keep weight down, but then you run the risk of
>oops overvolted it
>you're crashing now
don't get me wrong it's not a bad idea but there's far more engineering in it than
>plane + electricity = gigaplane

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>>33840287
>oops overvolted it
>you're crashing now
>I guess this is happening
>mfw

>>33840210
Electric motors have low rpm torque. And drive train size/power and is better in an ice.

To have a plane prop run by a motor you'd need to have some gearing to speed it up as high rpm motors have shit torque. Think router 1hp motor vs lathe 1hp motor. A lathe motor tops out around 1700 rpm, a router can go over 11 k. It's a lathe that delivers Dat tork.

Also motors of high power succ power very fast, and as a side effect overheat the batteries. It's why teslas lose to a miata.

The tesla accelerates fast, the first second maybe third time. But by the 4th the miata good old suck squeeze bang blow keeps on going, while the tesla battery has overheated and puts it into safe mode.

>>33840088
The night witches where mostly a propaganda squadron. There's very little evidence of them that isn't of soviet origin.

Still, scared younger recruits.

That said, the tactics employed by them where pretty common for small night bombers and recon planes.

>>33840287
Would it be possible to use combustion normally, then switch to electric for short term silent operation ?

>>33840361
sure you could, but you're increasing aircraft size the more shit you add, because now you need:
>genset system to charge the batteries bleeding off of the motor during flight
>possibly inverter
>engine cutoff that instantaneously fires the batteries
>batteries that can do vice-versa
>backup systems for both
>plus all the shit associated with each type of system (wires, hoses, belts, etc)
this is gonna take you up from a cessna 172-sized plane, probably up a solid 3 sizes, and probably from straight prop to turboprop.

>>33839941
>slipping past enemy air defenses and interception, OP prepares to drop his <1000lb bomb load
>OP is then detected by CRAM and eats a hundred 20mm rounds

>>33840445
or, bonus points for
>be enemy sitting onnaground at an HMG
>look up with NV
>oh shit thats a plane
>go full animal mother
>oops, your idea is retarded

>>33839941
>>Difficult to detect by radar
Hahaha no. Engine provides a target, batteries make it even bigger.

Your low altitude means at night you'll get eaten by any radar-equipped SHORAD system, AKA literally all of them. And during the day the MANPADS will see you and rape your face.

And it'll get murdered by jets, because low speed won't save you from eating a missile.

Just use fast movers with PGMs like a sane person.

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mfw everyone bites bait i was hoping to put out first but gets beat to the punch by faggot OP

>>33839941
When the Hunnish Bf-109s went up against Bong Navy Swordfish, they had to use full flaps and gear down just to slow down enough to dogfight the biplanes. The Bong pilot saw this and incredulously started to search for a possible Hunnic aircraft carrier since it looked like the Bf-109s were trying to land.

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>>33839941
>Blocks your path...

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>>33839941
I've always wondered why poorfag insurgent groups and tinpot dictators never use shit like that. Or also why UAVs haven't really been used in terror attacks

>>33840018

this is the future

manned aircraft are now an anachronism

seriously the 1st country that can manufacture zillions of these will rule the skies

can the F35 compete against 100 drones ? 200 ?

Wood and canvas aircraft aren't difficult to detect with radar. It's not 1940.

Op was kill by stealth bi-plane

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>>33839941
They remain a valid low cost, low tech option for poorer nations with short operational ranges.

See the North Korean An-2 fleet, which is a serious enough threat to force the ROK to invest (relatively) heavily into AAA.

>>33845190
They do.

Saddam used ultra-lights in 2003, they did not achieve anything but US air defense completely failed to down them.

The Tamil Tigers used modified civilian aircraft as light ground attack in their fight with the Sri Lankan government.

Everyone including ISIS and Hezbollah uses armed UAVs in Iraq and Syria.

>>33839941
The problem is that you can reliably hit them with small arms from the ground.

Get 2-3 GPMG's in right position and it's a flying wreck.

Super Tucanos and similar designs make more sense because at least they're relatively fast so it's harder to hit them.

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>>33839941
If only someone had thought of this and improved upon the idea by making it entirely disposable

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>>33840021
>>33840105
>>33840140
Fucking tucanofags.

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>>33845306
>AAA

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>>33845306
norks will just bring theyr anti-AAA

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>>33845662
Yes, AAA. .

Look and ROK air defense, the proportion of gun (AAA) to SAM air defense systems is far higher then in other militaries.

>>33845221
>seriously the 1st country that can manufacture zillions of these will rule the skies
Hail China

>>33839941
>>Difficult to detect by radar
I'm not seeing any S-ducts, only the exact opposite.

>>33839941
aside from the wood and canvas part, you're basically wrong on everything else.

your thread sucks and you suck.

>>33840088
they did it in the korean war and bombed an airfield, destroying like 3 sabres. With a glorified crop duster

You could use crop dusters to spray lethal chemicals such as Agent Orange

too bad a single strafe would turn your plane into a fiery meteor

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>>33839941
>>top speed is far below stall speed for most if not all modern fighter jets, making them difficult to engage

>this actually happened once in nam with a f94 and a po-2 and the f94 was lost

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>>33839941
Who needs engines anyway?

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>>33845306
Katastrophe!

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>>33847524
Srsly?

>>33839941
>Batteries
>Biplanes
As much as I love this for A E S T H E T I C, pick one. Biplanes are draggy as shit. An electric airplane would be a high aspect ratio monoplane or flying wing.

>>33847610
>"One F-94 was lost when it slowed to 110 miles per hour (180 km/h) during pursuit of a Po-2 biplane"

>>33840287
High current requires larger conductors.

Put simply a high current motor would be way too heavy.

You need to decide what HP/kW output is needed for proper function.

Motors make all their torque at 0rpm and it drops from there.

3 phase AC is also dumb as shit because youd need an inverter and a VFD or a soft start. All of which are heavy as shit.

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>you will never fly a biplane to war

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Hay guys, need a lift?

>>33839941
>>Difficult to detect by radar
>meters size battery and electric motor
>Difficult to detect by radar
This thing will be having meters of RCS.

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>tfw some dweeb who works at the Pentagon read this and now they've figured out what to spend that little extra bit of R&D money on in order to justify next year's budget.

>>33844151

>blasts that shitty 10mm armour full of holes with my .50 or 40mikemike

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>>33845648
tuconfags and a10fags and whatever you just posted fags - the plane you want was made decades ago