>Oppressive governments can't disarm an armed urban

>Allowing yourself to get disarmed and herded into the contemporary equivalent of a FEMA camp
>Starve for three years
>Smuggle in some miscellaneous shit like SMGs and rifles
>Go up against an enemy that totally surrounds you with three times your number and armored vehicles
Of course they got their ass kicked retard, they should have resisted before they ever got to the ghetto

>>33837976

Yeah and those were insanely bloody episodes that were carried out by large concentrations of wartime troops. If anything it shows that a population or group determined to retain arms in an urban setting will do so under even th heaviest surveillance, and it will be a terrible bloody nose to disarm them when they choose to start some shit.

Obviously there are pros and cons of no to retaining illicit arms in both urban and rural settings, but both can be done.

He'll look at the get offensive for an example of a convergence of rural to urban insurgemcy/resistance.

I read the entire Stroop Report and I'm not totally convinced he didn't downplay foreign troops deaths.

>>33837976
Well they didn't, given how the Polish resistance stayed around for awhile with guns and all.

Does it bother anyone that when we discuss the holocaust, we go waaaah all the Jews n' shit, but half those Jews and half of the dead in the holocaust were Polish and Ukrainian, not to forget Russian POWs. Barely a percentage of Germans died. Just saying.

>>33837976

Dude the funniest thing about the uprising was how terrible the dwirlanger brigade performed.

>>33838104

I think it really just strengthens holocost revisionists positions when education systems talk only and out the 6 or so million Jews who got camped notepad of focusing on the total number of Slavs who just got murdered in their villiages.

>>33838106
Dwirlanger and the other German troops sent to suppress the uprising were bottom of the barrel.

Really if you want an argument against "muh well regulated militia" just look at any occupied nation in WW2, any urban uprising was utterly crushed and demolished.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drama_uprising

Hell even the British government realized it was helpless once they were invaded with operation Sealion, Civilian resistance was prepared for but not expected to last any longer than a week in captured towns/cities.

http://warlinks.com/pages/auxiliary.php

>>33837976
So that means the Nazis did just as well in their siege at Leningrad, right?

Right?

Warsaw Uprising was a well-coordinated military operation by highly trained and competent fighters armed to the teeth

The Ghetto Uprising was spontaneous and they barely had any weapons, it's really an entirely different issue

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>>33838104
Probably because all your education on the holocaust from 4chan

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>>33837976
Casualties and losses:
>German forces:
7,000–9,000 KIA[7]
7,000 MIA[7]
9,000 WIA[7]
2,000 POW[7]
310 tanks and armoured vehicles, 340 trucks and cars, 22 artillery pieces, one aircraft[7]

Jesus, they lost more people than America lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

>>33837976
The Jews in the uprising were untrained civiluans crowded into a defecto concentration course from which they could not escape, with no training leadership or meaningful resources. And the Germans decided that the best aproach had was to flamethrower every house they past down the streets. They we're actually considering leveling the whole ghetto from air with bombers

>>33838631
Germans had more casualties capturing Poland than the US did in Vietnam

Poles in WW2 were cheeky bastards

>>33838257
Urban uprisings being crushed isnt a great argument, especially with how endemic partisans were in much of the countryside

>>33838665
The Polsih pre-war army was actually fairly organized and well armed for hoe young it was. It just had shit luck being in between two hostile super powers