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Springfield©©™ and Rock River Arms have SUPPORTED a bill

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Springfield©©™ and Rock River Arms have SUPPORTED a bill in Illinois that requires all FFLs (except them and grandfathered manufacturers) to also get STATE certification on top of federal.

This bill also limits the amount of transfers a resident can do to 9 guns per YEAR

Robski's report
https://youtu.be/tsoj4kL0jQQ

TAG report
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/04/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-trade-opposition-to-illinois-ffl-licensing-scheme-for-carve-out/
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>>33806033
This bullshit is unacceptable.
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I didn't really plan on buying springshit, but I do have RRA upper and trigger for my AR and like it, but will never recommend either of their shit to anyone after this bullshit
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>>33806129
How? you people don't even know why your angry. it's gonna be a good law anyway it'll cut down the crime.
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>>33806033
My dad's always wanted an M1A. I just told him that he's not buying one until Springfield has a change in CEO. It's ridiculous that a company making money off of selling guns would agree to a limitation of our rights like this. We need people to boycott these companies.
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>will continue not buying from SAI or RRA
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>>33806193
Yeah I'm sure it'll cut down crime a ton because criminals go through the legal transfer of guns and will adhere to the limit. I don't even care if this is bait, you're a fucking dumbass.
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It's true guys, I really did cancel the layaway. I was digging that Springfield magazine promo, but after this shit I don't want anything to do with them.
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>>33806033
Even though it was years ago I now regret buying an M1A.
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>>33806033
>have SUPPORTED a bill in Illinois
This belongs in /pol/ not here.
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>>33806203
Tell him to buy from Fulton instead.
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>>33806193
how? how will it cut down on crime? over half the guns recovered by chicago pd are from out-of-state
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>>33806241
>tripfaggot
You belong in a shallow grave, not in here
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>>33806245
then they need to ban out of state sales
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>>33806241
Fuck off, this is gun related
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>>33806193
>it's gonna be a good law anyway it'll cut down the crime.
Proofs?

>How? you people don't even know why your angry.
RTFA you dumb nigger.
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>>33806241
this
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>>33806260
it's putting limits on transfers
that's how people abuse loopholes
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>>33806255
laws only bother the law-abiding

what about the cholos vatos niggers russians et al that are committing all the crime wantonly?

yeah pass more laws. that'll fix it.
>i'll take smokescreens for $400, alex
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>>33806267
>"loopholes"
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>>33806272
remember that they dont pass laws they expect you to abide by


they pass laws they expect you to break
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>>33806272
racism will get you nowhere
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CHICAGOLAND ANONS REPORT IN!

>Mokena
>only buy from LGS

The gangbangers get their guns from Indiana. Making it harder for Illinois residents to bear arms is unacceptable.
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>>33806241
Shouldn't you be on >>>lgbt?
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>>33806314
I live in the south side (non nigger area). Bud's won't ship guns to me even through FFL, blanket ban on Chicago residents from purchasing. It's bullshit.
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>>33806349
Move to the suburbs bro. Or better: Northwest Indiana.

Unless you're a cop there's no reason to live in Chicago as a pro-gun. Where are you at? Beverly?
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>>33806282
that's stupid
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>>33806033
Where is your god now ha ha. Welcome to Corprocracy, bootlickers! Witness the powah of the Corporate lobby.
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>>33806298
you're not in your liberal hug box echo chamber here. maybe you should to back to being a redditor.

racism isn't born of ignorance. that it is, is a lie they tell children in school. it is familiarity that breeds contempt.
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>>33806314
carol stream reporting
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>>33806398
its also technically correct which is the best kind of correct
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>>33806193
Alright, don't suck the ghost of commie dick too hard.
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>>33806419
Not that poster raceism is stupid it brings in uncessary hate. Being aware of your surroundings and being able to read people is what is important ex who is more of a threat the black man walking by you wearing a suit talking on his phone or the white junky who is disheveled and twitchy.
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>>33806419
racism is against the rules idiot
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>>33806431
ayy west subs
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>>33806461
Welcome to life, dick nuts. Unnecessary hate is all around you whether you like it or not.
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>>33806461
Be aware of what gangs or criminal elements are around and what they wear and their ethnicity. I could go on sure you can always fall back on the around innercity dont relax around blacks, but you will have to at some point learn to read people to figure out their intent.
Bone up on your people skills .
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>>33806491
>don't relax around POC
how fucking delusional do you have to be to think of that? I bet you watch Hitler videos
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>>33806470
How am i a cuck i dont go around hating people for shit they have no control over like their skin color . I hate people based on their actions. Yeah stats show black people commit more crimes, but guess what there are plenty of good black people who wake up do a 9-5 job and just want to get through the day. Drop the autisim, learn to think about individual humans.
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>>33806516
Desu im brown. What im saying is sure you can follow that mentality but it wont be useful in the long run. Life is more nuanced then DnD racial moral alignment systems.

Also i would be on hittlers kill list..
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>>33806461
>the black man walking by you wearing a suit talking on his phone
i dont deal in fairy tales

go back to your liberal echo chamber hug box. this is no place for you. and real life is going to chew you up and spit you out

a liberal is just a conservative thats never been robbed.
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>>33806521
POC who commit crimes are forced to because they are socioeconomically oppressed
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>>33806521
>plenty of good black people who wake up do a 9-5 job
you're talking out your ass. only way to get a black man to hustle in the work place is to throw him a basketball. outworking you is not oppressing you, you lazy nigger.
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>>33806521
>>33806535

Real life doesn't work like 4chan racist memes. I'm a distruted minority but I recognize that IRL my life is my own to live and it requires nuanced social and people skills which you need to navigate the world if you're going to live in it.

Especially if you're going to work in dangerous or high-stress professions.
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Someone make a picture of a Illinois Politician with a penis that says "GRIP ZONE" on it and Springfield sucking it.
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>>33806557
Its a combination of things such as higher exposure to led because of old housing that has yet to be remediated as well as from historic polution with in inner cities. One of the key signs of led posining is reduced iq and increased agression. Combine that with poor childhood nutrition which can interfere with brain growth and increased rates of child abuse which can also result in abnormal mental development yeah, there is a good reason you see what you see in the inner city, thats before you get to the fact our welfare system activly punishes people who try to get better jobs and education because once they pass a certain income threshold they lose the housing and food benifits which means they end up with less cash then they would have staying on welfare.

The systems fucked so it produces fucked up people same shit is happening in rural america you seem to be forgetting the heroine crisis and the large amounts of rural white suicides fue to lack of economic futures .
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>>33806654
Due to the fact that the private market wont support the fees to retrain many rural workers for emerging jobs and on the job training is pretty much a thing of the past the rural whites will be forced to depend on wellfare much like innercity blacks. You will see the destruction of the family unit as men turn to sex and drugs to find meaning of life without meaningful work. After that you will see a rise in single parent house holds, after that there will be a crime spike as the youth try to find a purpose for their life as well as economic stablity . Most likely they will resort to the production and distribution of drugs , as it is an easy way to get money.. pretty much what happened to the black community will happen to the white community over the next 20 years.
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>be working at gun store
>Springfield has employee program where you shill their guns and you get points for a free 1911, XD, Saint, or
m1A
>only 5 points away from getting an M1A loaded with walnut stock for free
>read article in the morning before work
>"ah I bet its nothing, their handgun deal is too good to pass up"
>see line outside of store before I walk in
>3 customers want to cancel their orders
>started the day with 30/35 points
>ended the day with 17/35 points

All I wanted was a free M1A /k/
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>>33806482
the river keeps rising...im going outside to start building my ark
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>>33806706
you watch too much tv
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>>33806654
your data is old. we havent used lead-based paint nor has gasoline had tetraethyl lead for DECADES

led, as you call it, or lead, symbol Pb, is not the boogie monster you think it is. your premise is 30 years old and obsolete.

next you'll try to tell me asbestos in schools is still a problem because we still have all those baby-boom era schools filled with them. which we don't. so its a red herring.

go back to where you came from, redditor
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>>33806461
>Not that poster
sure faggot. I hope you choke on nigger dick and die.
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>>33806997
Hey man I'll admit it, I shill the he'll out if them for free points. I'd rather offer a Glock than an XD, or an mp15 over a saint . But fuck did I want a free M1A
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>>33806245
[Citation needed]
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>>33806251
This post made me happy. I appreciate you anon.
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>>33807244
>>33806940
Haha, I hope Springfield Armory fucking burns to the goddamn ground.
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>>33806203
LRB makes better rifles at the same price anyway.

>>33807689
Agreed. Springfield has no excuse.
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Make sure to rate these faggots 1 star on everything you possibly can.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Springfield+Armory,+Inc./@32.9282508,-155.0086565,3z/data=!4m10!1m2!2m1!1sspringfield+armory!3m6!1s0x87e2100ee1052d2d:0x2eb5389a503fe03e!8m2!3d41.4476832!4d-90.1620301!9m1!1b1
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>>33806033

If it comes from without it's not treason, is it
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>>33807334
here ya go. NY Times a good enough source for you?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/29/us/where-50000-guns-in-chicago-came-from.html
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>>33808208
>New York Times
Found the Bernie supporter
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>>33808208
>joo york slimes
no.
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>>33806557
Which is why rural Kentucky has the same rate of violence as black areas...oh wait...
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>>33806033
They didn't support the bill, they cut a deal to exempt all Illinois firearm manufacturers(not just ones that are "grandfathered" in) in return for staying neutral on the bill.

Not that I'm defending it.
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>>33806193
There's already FFLs, which haven't done a thing to cut down on crime in Illinois.

Why would a redundant state license change anything?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Armory,_Inc.
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>>33806267
>SHALL
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>>33806298
Do you know where you even are, faggot?
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>>33806466
You have to be underage or a libfag.
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>>33808368
Maybe, instead of doing this, they should try to cut down the number of gang members in the handful of urban districts where this problem comes from.

Maybe jailing as many as we can catch and executing the ones who commit capital crimes.

Crazy idea, I know. It's just a thought.
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>>33808357
They also got big box store like Dick's and Gander Mountain exempted. Fuck your local gun store is why.
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>>33806193
Get fucked, commie.
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I was hoping to buy a Springfield operator this fall. Guess I’ll put that money toward a different gun purchase with one of your competitors. Traitors get the rope. You did this to yourself, SA.
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>>33806033
Did they really think this utter bullshit wouldn't come back to bite them?
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>>33808761
go back to pol Nazi
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>>33806193
Nice b8
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Goddamnit. I was really looking forward to buying a Springfield TRP too....
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>>33810107
I wonder who will fill the gap left behind by Springfield when they go bankrupt
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https://youtu.be/tsoj4kL0jQQ
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>>33806314
Aurora/Naperville here
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>>33806314
Yorkville here
SO GOD DAMN BORED
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>>33806033
If they produce anything I'm interested in - and they do - I'm buying their stuff.

Suck my fucking dick.
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>>33808357
To operate in IL, you have to pull shady and slimy shit like this all the time. It's why IL has any mega corporations around, because IL would go into utter economic collapse if the large businesses were subjected to the same regulations politicians impose on everyone else, as they'd just up and leave. It has come to that for practically every sector that works in IL, and each time IL politicians will give exemptions to the large corporations that threaten to leave.

I don't particularly blame the corporation, as they're doing what is in their interest to stay afloat in their area, but I still find it completely disgusting. Then again, the only way to solve IL's problems would be to eradicate C(r)ook County. It holds too much power, and it constantly imposes CA and NY tier bullshit on the rest of the state to the point that in order to go against them would literally require the rest of the state to vote against, and even then it ends up being ~53:47
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I predict the new Springfield XDE will be a major flop.
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>>33811493
It's one of the few new handguns to interest me in years, I know I'll be picking one up.
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>>33806193
>it'll cut down the crime.
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>>33811505
y tho
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>>33811563
>It's one of the few new handguns to interest me in years
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>>33811567
Y THO. It offers nothing over it's competitors.
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>>33811574
>It offers nothing over it's competitors.
Then you need to look closer at the specs and do some comparing.
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>>33811603
So you want a heavier gun with a stupid trigger system that's more likely to get snagged on your clothing?
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>>33806232
I have 1952 Springfield Garand. Should I sell it?
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>>33811676
different company
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Welp.

I was going to buy a springfield armory trp, what's an equivalent 1911?
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>>33811752
just buy a Glock or something
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>>33811808
I've got a 17 and 19 but I've always wanted a 1911
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>>33811821
oh

http://armscor.com/firearms/
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>>33811883
fuck off
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>>33811752
build your own. purchase a Caspian frame, and go to town.
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>>33811853
They got some cool stuff.

http://armscor.com/firearms/bbr-series/baby-rock-380/
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>>33806193
>he doesn't even do it for free
>he's actually paying them
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>>33811676
yeah, I'll take it off your hands for $500 cash and I'll pick it up
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>>33806033
If you are selling more than 9 guns per year why not just get an FFL?
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>>33812024
buying a firearm counts as a transfer
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I really want an M1A NM for an XM21 clone, so I don't really care at this point. After that I'm not buying another Springfield product
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>>33811995
is there any background to this?
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>>33806521

The last nigger that worked 9-5 was John Henry, and that was such a big deal they wrote stories about him.
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>>33806637
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>>33812463
Part of a college course somewhere (I forgot which) has part of the curriculum to raid /pol/
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>>33812352
Springfield doesn't even make a good example... milspec parts barely even fit on them.
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>>33812757
how did they think this would end well?
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>>33812776
It's not going to be a 100% correct clone, just going to mount a leatherwood ART scope on it and call it good enough. Don't even have the cash for it yet so it's a distant dream
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>>33806940
>30 points, dropping down to 17
Anon you need to step your game up. I already have 80 points. I got the loaded walnut m1a, stainless RO, and the saint for my wife.
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>>33812777
If they were good at thinking, they wouldn't have gotten PhDs in social media studies.
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You guys just don't get it do you. Springfield are playing the long game.

The reality is gun companies don't give a flying fuck about you or your right to own guns. They just want to make a profit. They are waking up to the hard truth that they aren't making as much money as they were when Obama was routinely threatening the 2nd Amendment. Gun owners are not scared anymore, and the market is over-saturated. Gun buyers are researching more and buying less, which is a problem. So now they want more gun control......but not too much.

Springfield are panicking and blowing their load too early, but trust me....big daddy trump is going to flip flop on gun control, and the NRA are still going to suck his dick just like Reagan.
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>>33813248
It doesn't matter what game they're playing, you still shouldn't support them for it.
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>>33806267
>loopholes
It's not a fucking loophole if it's not illegal you fucking dick. Goddamn 8/10 made me reply.
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>>33806940
>>33807244
Honestly there's nothing wrong with shilling Springfield if it gets you something. 99% of the people who buy them will shoot a mag or two at the range once a month, never carry them and they'll work fine with no reliability issues. They'll be satisfied and you'll get your free gun.

Sucks that market is controlled so heavily by memes because guns are so divisive in this country.
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>>33808208
Most of those guns are from the areas immediately around Chicago, and within Illinois. Those gun stores are already under federal licensing requirements, how would adding another layer improve the situation? Unless you think the only way to stop sales of guns to criminals is to stop sales of guns totally by driving dealers out of business.
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>>33811883
>>33806241
Why are you still here? Just leave already
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>mfw I live in Indiana, very close to Shitcago
>mfw niggers who chimp out with Indiana guns get shot by Indiana guns in Indiana
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>>33806033
>Law applies to most manufacturers/dealers
>But not some

I don't see this lasting more than a year before it gets struck down in court.
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>>33814554
Or Rauner shoots it down as well.
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>>33808504
Somebody removed it
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>>33815856
I still see it.
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>>33806033
Don't care about shit states, going to put my order in for a Springfield Professional tomorrow.
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>>33816248
Why haven't you guys at Springfield released a statement yet?
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>>33816248
Did you really think this would blow over?
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>>33806241
>This belongs in /pol/ not here.
This is about weapons asshole. It belongs right here... maybe you belong back at CTR or whatever leftist shill circle jerk you can from.

Just because a topic is cross board related does not mean we should lose the right to discuss it you stupid cocksucking cunt. FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
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Bump?
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>>33816248
>don't care about shit states
you don't think SA wont throw your shitty state under too?
if you're a gun manufacturer, you can't just not support firearms rights
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>>33806033
>MfW
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>>33817910
>>33806033 (OP)
>>have SUPPORTED a bill in Illinois
This belongs in /pol/ not here.
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>>33817910
Ya done fucked up, never give a tripfag a ((((you)))).
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It's treason then
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>>33806193
Why would it possibly cut down the crime?
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I kek'd

>Springfield Armory, Inc. is an American firearms manufacturer, political lap dog, and imposter based in Geneseo, Illinois, founded in 1974. It is one of the largest firearm companies in the world.[citation needed] The company is a four-time recipient of the National Rifle Association (NRA) American Rifleman's Golden Bullseye award.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Armory,_Inc.
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>Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company and slimy political sellout based in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15/M16 type rifles, as well as complete firearms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_River_Arms
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>>33821261
AAAAAHHHHHHH
*Austistic spinning*
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>>33822760
>>33822768
top fucking kek.
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>>33806033
Just bought a Springfield 1911 around a month ago. I absolutely love it, but Springfield won't be getting another cent out of my pocket. Fucking pricks.
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