How good is North Korea's artillery and small arms compared

>>33804180
Plywood and cardboard vs. Steel and polymer

NK does not have excalibur grenades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M982_Excalibur

>>33804180
They are very old but they have a lot of them and they have had 50 years to dig in.

>>33804180
No ammo, no gas, no food, operating on fear not morale, old equipment wth no replacement parts, no real training, best Korea a shit.

>>33804180
>still uses biplanes
>losers still making comparisons using norks

>>33804180
>US has battle-hardened, experienced troops
>Norks have koreans, and not the american kind on a roof

yeah the smart money is on uncle sam

>>33804879
talking about them, do they survive down there in commiefornia on these days?

>>33804180
RE: artillery, if you're truly interested, read this:
http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/
It's a very solid and pretty objective report about the assets and readiness of NORK artillery, and what sort of damage they can inflict in a massive counter-force or counter-value strike.

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>>33805397
>http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/

This. Everyone interested should read it before talking about Nork barrages ever again.

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SHINY AND CHROME

WITNESS ME GRORIOUS READER

>>33804180
Koksan was a long time ago. KN-09 has a 200 km range, better performance and its more sensible in terms of not concentrating all resources in one expensive and heavy gun.

>>33805397
That report is from Koksan times, still obsessed with northern Seoul - every critical area will get hit at least a little. Area denial munitions in NK long range rockets are interesting from a strategic perspective. Do they have them? Are they AP or cratering?

So, how tall is fatty boom boom?

>>33806116
>That report is from Koksan times
Uh, no. It was a paper put together by a retired US Army analyst for a Pacific nuclear security conference. The references to Northern Seoul mostly fall out that way due to maximum range specifications on NORK artie tubes beyond the DMZ.

Do you have trouble with reading comprehension?

>>33805397
All this because Starcraft Correans are too stupid to move their capital city away from grenade range. It's like Gooks north or south are inherently stupid and have death wishes. They deserve each other.

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the ONE thing they do exceptionally well is build shit underground.

>>33806454
Historical and cultural significance of the site aside, it's not like outstanding deep water ports grow on trees on the Korean peninsula.

>>33806454
>It's like Gooks north or south are inherently stupid
nail, head

>>33806472
Nampo, Sinpo, Wonsan... Incheon, Busan, Jiju, Pyongtaek, Ulsan, Pohang

>>33806547
...
Are you completely ignorant? Not a single one of those is a PANAMAX port, nor a particularly good natural port outside of Busan. Only Busan and Seoul are actually even container terminus ports.

Jesus Christ. Can you even into history and political development?

A navigable (by most winds for age of sail ships), natural deep water port of good area and well suited landings, or access to them by direct waterway, is top three on anyone's list of important geological features for capital citing. In fact, it's arguably the most important throughout history.

Because of the nature of the surrounding seas (especially shallow with many islands and shifting sand bar formation), topographical maritime features and prevailing wind patterns, mountainous terrain, the only two historical ports on the entire Korean peninsula which fit this bill are Seoul and Busan, and Busan is all the way at the south eastern tip, making transport of goods much less efficient.

>>33806229
>The references to Northern Seoul mostly fall out that way due to maximum range specifications on NORK artie tubes beyond the DMZ.
What I meant by Koksan times. Back before Best Korea got big MRLs with 100km+ ranges

>>33806707
>Back before Best Korea got big MRLs with 100km+ ranges
You might consider how much this actually changes things in a statistically significant way, as those tubes would be the very first and most important counter-battery targets.

How many of those batteries do they have now, anyway?

>>33806458
If they did it well we wouldn't be able to spot it from above. The fucking vietcong did a better job of hiding underground

>>33806983
I thought the vietkong were the masters at hiding underground?

Much better

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>>33804180
Very simple mid-20th century technology, but an artillery piece is an artillery piece and in a country as densely populated as South Korea big explosive shells are going to cause huge damage even if half of them are duds.

>>33806016
That's a great joke.

>what do north Koreans use instead of Adobe acrobat?

Grorious Reader

>>33807796
kek

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>>33804180
shit and old but would be effective

it's a very different war than blowing up a sand nigger in the middle of a flat barren desert
Traditional America hasn't done very well fighting guerillas in jungle mountainous terrain

>>33808112
>Traditional America hasn't done very well fighting guerillas in jungle mountainous terrain

u fucking wat ?

>>33808112
>jungle

Nigga you retarded

>>33806454
The only people who regularly talk about the Norks are western nations. South Koreans generally dont give a shit about the Norks except when they do something to piss them off.

>>33808112
>Traditional America hasn't done very well fighting guerillas in jungle mountainous terrain
>Korea
>Jungle
Jesus. You can't be fucked to check google for 30 fucking seconds, yet you still felt compelled to comment here and make a complete fool of yourself. Bravo.

>>33808217
We didn't do to well the first time fighting a much lesser force in Korea
the US had its ass handed to it in Vietnam
Nicaragua contras didn't go so well

>>33808367
>>33808282
fuck I'm Canadian, any forest above 18 celsius is a god damn uninhabitable fuckhot fucking jungle. And we were in Korea getting shot too, don't know how much we did on the ground but the RCAF had their Sabres there.

>>33808864
Canadians are cool in my book. Autism forgiven.

>>33808864
>any forest above 18 celsius is a god damn uninhabitable fuckhot fucking jungle
The Korean Peninsula may be more or less equal with Northern California or Virginia in latitude, but weather patterns in that region make the climate roughly equal to Wisconsin in temp averages, but with more miserable moisture and less sun.

North Korea especially is one of the more miserable climates on the planet, and the winters are pretty brutal, even by central midwest America/Canadian terms.

>>33808973
When there's sun, South Korea's mountains and forests are beautiful. You should hike there if given the chance. Seeing ancient Buddhist temples are cool too.

>>33809006
Oh, absolutely no argument there. And South Korea is generally far more beautiful than what I understand about the North. Closer to Vermont or Maine than an even drearier Minnesota.

>>33806458
>the ONE thing they do exceptionally well is build shit underground.
To be fair, how do we know they do it well? Sure, they're little tunnel rates, but they're pretty shit at everything else so maybe their tunnels collapse all the time.

>>33804180
Nice try Kim

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>>33806618

>>33804220
>grenades

>>33808864
It varies, they have a brutal winter.
Also they (we) did well last time they (we) were in Korea, although they had quite a lot of help from Britain and her dominions.
Pushed back the norks and nearly recaptured all of korea, but then chinese human-waved in and managed to push back to roughly present borders, then stalemate, then armistice

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>>33808864
I can't wait until we Americans annex your frozen wasteland and take away your internet privileges