Now that the dust has settled, just how big a deal was it really

>>33801944
a weapon unused is a useless weapon, my child

>>33801944
It's just a big bomb, nothing special.

>>33801944
I read an AP report that stated about 100 fighters were killed and a tunnel system collapsed by that strike. That really fucks with ISIS fighters heads that we are willing to drop that kind of shit on them, and we have more of those bombs.

To the rest of the world it's dickwaving that American acceptionalism is on the rise again.

I don't understand why every news outlet was covering it like it was some kind of unknown hyper technology. It's a big bomb; that's it. The Russians have a bigger one, though probably very few.

>>33802083
>To the rest of the world it's dickwaving that American acceptionalism is on the rise again.
we're waving our dicks for accepting?

>>33802100
>the russians have a bigger fuel air bomb
fixed that for you, vasily

>>33802100
The Russian one is smaller then a MOAB and claims to have four times the explosive force, but it's never been used in the field.

>>33802152
>>33802169

A thermobaric weapon can get a lot more yield out of the same weight because it doesn't carry oxidizer but lacks the shattering power and peak impulse of high explosives.

>>33801944
>killing brown people in deserts

when is it ever a bad idea to do this, theres literally not one example of brown people in deserts being left to their own devices to breed and multiply not resulting in bad things for everyone else

>>33802169
russian FOAB is thermobaric so the blast and energy released is bigger. you don't wanna die from that. that shit turns your insides out.

what is the smallest US nuclear weapon?

can we just drop those instead?

>>33801944
Killed a lot of dirt dead.

>>33801944
Not really
Its just a big fucking bomb, its not like they dropped a nuke or anthrax or something

>>33802100
It is the largest conventional bomb ever used in war, and it is the symbolism that America is 'serious' again without the cuck in chief more than the bomb itself.

Video of the aftermath.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqfosAxT4CI

>>33802083
>acceptionalism

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>>33801944
>just how big a deal was it really to drop a MOAB on ISIS in Afghanistan?
From a military standpoint? None whatsoever. It didn't do shit really. It was dropped over supposed underground tunnels and shit but that's all fantasy. Afghanis can't bore tunnels though rocks with shovels and picks.

The purpose of the MOAB drop was just dick waving. America's political, economic and ideological power is declining, so it's turning to military power to keep its world status. America, as a nation, is braking apart due to deep social and cultural issues. Same thing happened to Roman Republic.

>A decline in morals, especially in the rich upper classes and the emperors, had a devastating impact on the Romans. Immoral and promiscuous sexual behaviour including adultery and orgies. Emperors such as Tiberius kept groups of young boys for his pleasure, incest by Nero who also had a male slave castrated so he could take him as his wife, Elagabalus who forces a Vestal Virgin into marriage, Commodus with his harems of concubines who enraged Romans by sitting in the theatre dressed in a woman's garments. The decline in morals also effected the lower classes and slaves. Religious festivals such as Saturnalia and Bacchanalia where sacrifices, ribald songs, lewd acts and sexual promiscuity were practised. Bestiality and other lewd and sexually explicit acts were exhibited in the Colosseum arena to amuse the mob. Brothels and forced prostitution flourished. Widespread gambling on the chariot races and gladiatorial combats. Massive consumption of alcohol. The sadistic cruelty towards both man and beasts in the arena.

Now, you have LGBT proponents and normalization of other mental illnesses destroying a family unit. Also, mass immigration from 3rd world and the decline of high-IQ ethnic groups in the US is causing a huge decline as well. That's why American children are the lowest ranked in industrial world yet US education system has more money than anyone.

Enjoy the downfall.

>>33802254
>killing white people in forests

when is it ever a bad idea to do this, theres literally not one example of white people in forests being left to their own devices to breed and multiply not resulting in bad things for everyone else

>>33802488
>we're letting brown people in and not zapping gays, we're in a downfall
do you realize how retarded you sound

>>33802587
>massive butthurt
Truth hurts, I know.

America's about a decade away from another civil war. Enjoy.

>>33802488
>That's why American children are the lowest ranked in industrial world yet US education system has more money than anyone.
No, THAT's because school systems are complete ass at managing budgets and the only solution seen is to throw money at the issue until it automagically fixes itself.

>>33801944
a special forces soldier was killed in the same district days prior

if any of them felt big about it, they're not alive to tell now

>>33802083
>acceptionalism

Im not even mad.

>>33802608
Kinda like how America was a decade away from another civil war in the 60s, yes?

>>33801944
No big deal at all, it's our country and we can drop what we want on it

>>33802587
Here.

http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php

Now tell me when and where and how this could have taken place anywhere in the civilized world before say ten-fifteen years ago. In a similar ideom, tell me when people attending a political rally got the shit beat out of them in broad daylight. All while the cops sit and watch indulgently. Anon is correct. We are in civilizational free fall.

>>33802609
That's complete nonsense. If you look at the ethnic breakups of performance in US schools, you'll see that I'm right. I'm too lazy to link it myself but use google and find it.

>>33802629
"It wasn't true then, so now it can't possibly be true." That's one of the most basic logical fallacies, kiddo.

Back in the 60s, you didn't have declining population, massive immigration from low-IQ countries and the destruction of middle class. That's why suicide rates and opiate epidemic is so endemic in middle America.

And then there's automation that's going to decimate even more jobs than the globalization and China combined.

>>33801944
>How big?
About a mile.

>>33802657
>low IQ countries
kek

>>33802692
It's not funny. Google "IQ by countries" for a chart. Then google "us census whites minority" and compare. You can then easily predict what will happen and what the country will look like. Hint: US will be transformed into Mexico. Mexican culture and values are already taking over.

>>33802169
We must borrow a few, for comparison purposes. This is for science, everybody likes science.

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>>33802026
This. Soviets used 20,000 lb bombs in Afghanistan too.

>>33802488

Nice fear mongering doodle, return to /pol/

>>33802559
no white people in forests = no weapons advancement to kill browns in deserts

we'd be tossing rocks and pig iron throwing weapons at eachother still if whites and asians didnt think of it

>>33802266
It's also much more difficult to deploy due to it being a caveman-tier fuel air bomb that can be rendered useless by wind.
You ever wonder why russia detonated it once to say "xaxa america bomb is puny in compare to might of russia" and then it was never spoken of again?

>>33802826
That is a FAB-3000 in that picture, a 3000kg bomb.

>>33802648
>folsom street fair
>gay pride
c'mon phill you even live in commiefornia you can't be this dumb

>>33802826

and to absolutely no significant result, their bombing campaigns were.

>>33802488
The Christian Church grubbing for money and the Roman army being reduced to a bunch of underpaid roving mercenary bands is what lead to the fall of the Roman empire your dip shit

>>33803324
Whatever, the point is large calibre bombs are nothing unusual.
>>33803363
But that's wrong.

>>33802657
>I'm too lazy to link it myself but use google and find it.

No. That's not how it works. You made the claim, now you get to support your claim. That "I'm too lazy..." bullshit is just plain sloppy thinking. You're essentially telling any possible interlocutor to make your argument for you because you're to weak minded to support your position.

Your opinion isn't worth my time to validate it, do your own fucking work, princess.

And let's be crystal clear about one thing: this has no bearing on whether or not I agree with your opinion. That is not a factor. This is entirely about you being a self-entitled twat who feels other people should do your thinking for you.

>>33802422
Shit, this place looks just like everything else in that shitty country

>>33803497
Couldn't care less what you think. You're just another lazy Amerifugg idiot who wants everything to be spoofed to him. Your post demonstrates perfectly why America's so fucked.

>>33803572
Faggot

>>33802559
go back to tumblr

>>33802559

HISSSS

>>33803812
Stay mad.

>>33801959
Nuclear deterrent

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>>33801944

>>33804088
I protest all the reddit fuckery coming out of /pol/ but god damn do those people make some good pepes

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Because it kills marginalized people, if you listen to the science march people at least.

>>33801944

>how big a deal

It wasn't.

Jihad is a mode of existence that has degraded into throwing your life away for a goal you will never physically experience. It has become a thought. A dream.

Jihadis acknowledge that their culture and struggle is useless. Their only absolution is brought about by death through reuniting with Allah.

We are employing physical weapons to fight a physical war that has essentially already been won. What we really need to do is change their culture or their mode of thought.

>>33802648
>In a similar ideom, tell me when people attending a political rally got the shit beat out of them in broad daylight
>All while the cops sit and watch indulgently
It's called the 60's Phil. And the many and various examples involved people protesting the war, civil rights, and other things you hate. Though usually the police joined in on the oppression, rather than just standing back and watching other citizens do it for them.

>>33802657
>>33803572
Not that guy, but no. Anyone who's not a newfag understands the basic rules of 4chan, and one of them is if you make a claim you bring your own evidence to the party, and don't get to talk shit about anyone who doesn't want to look for it for you.

Your post demonstrates perfectly why 4chan's so fucked.

>>33802559
t. brown person from a desert

>>33802110
I ACCEPT the tax cost of MOABs and free helicopter rides.

>>33802758
>Mexican values are already taking over
So family values and staunch catholicism? Sounds like /pol/s dream

>>33804224
Just like on Berkeley, amirite?

>>33804079
If we'd used nukes in the 1950s we wouldn't need a deterrent now.

>>33802083
I like it. Acceptionalism, they must accept us or die.

>>33802083
Sootchh? That you?

>>33802279
The US has nuclear artillery shells. Problem is the radiation that is left over.

>>33804647
iirc los alamos made a nuclear hand grenade but nobody wanted to be the one to test it.

>>33804705
>nuclear hand grenade
that cant be true

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>>33802629
given that you obviously were not there and got your information from a liberal teacher,

we were closer than a decade away from civil war in the 60s. ponder what would have happened had nixon not resigned. oh wait - your generation is incapable of thinking past the nose on your face. never mind, kid. never mind.

>>33804723
It's entirely possible. There's just not really much of a point, and it's prohibitively expensive.

Why make that when you can just build a better artillery shell?

>>33804705
RAD Grenades!


I'd use them.

>>33804740
Cant breach with an artillery shell now can you

>>33804806
Not with that attitude.

>>33804816
You, I like you.

>>33802648
Looks like freedom to me.
Not my particular flavor but call me when they do the huge tits and ass festival!

Although they should close the street to minors.

>>33804384
Or did he mean rampant corruption and bribery?

>>33804384
The only family values practiced by Mexicans is teen pregenancy and the only Catholicism is old women mourning dead gang affiliated grandsons.

Has anyone developed a titanium power thermobaric bomb that uses nitrogen from the air to burn the fuel, instead of oxygen?

>>33804705
>The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

>>33802083
>I read an AP report that stated about 100 fighters were killed and a tunnel system collapsed by that strike
How could they know how many were killed? Obviously they didn't go dig out the bodies.

>>33801944
Not a big deal in the slightest. All the dumbasses who confused kilotons with tons have already forgotten about it.

>>33805917
>Obviously they didn't go dig out the bodies.

Someone did. Possibly locals.

>>33805947
No, nobody did. That's ridiculous.

>>33802559
You post this from a white invention.

>>33804926
Did you think he meant something else by "family values and staunch Catholicism"?

>>33801944
>Now that the dust has settled

just for the sake of argument, some of that dust is still in the upper atmosphere.

>>33801944
ISIS isn't a place, you moron. It's not even like it only operates in one place. You can't just "drop a MOAB on ISIS".

>>33803318
>It's also much more difficult to deploy due to it being a caveman-tier fuel air bomb that can be rendered useless by wind.
>You ever wonder why russia detonated it once to say "xaxa america bomb is puny in compare to might of russia" and then it was never spoken of again?
What the fuck? This isn't Generals with a notable delay in the fuel being scattered and then exploded- the scattering is riding on supersonic shockwaves much stronger than any wind possible.

>>33807111
Except... they did.

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>>33801944
We made 20 of them and never used a single one untill now.
Why not use one?

They will expire soon anyways

>>33803572
>Couldn't care less what you think
>but I will take the time to reply

>>33803572
>i'm too lazy to link to it myself
>your laziness is what's wrong with america

confusedfreshprince.jpg

>>33805917
>watch how many people go in
>watch how many people (don't) come out

I'm not saying it's easy to believe, but it's hardly impossible.

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>>33804119
Wow

>>33805105
Pls respond
Titanium burns in nitrogen. Has anyone weaponized this property?

>>33805980
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/15/us-mother-of-all-bombs-moab-afghanistan-donald-trump-death-toll
Are you actually autistic yes they did.

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>>33802488
>people having weird sex is what makes Nations collapse
>mfw

>>33804270
Not him but can you politely point out this so called basic rules of 4chan.especially the ones that state that the users should post their sources during an argument.

I don't know about you but the last time I check it says that everything in 4chan can be considered a work of fiction, only a fool will take it as facts.

Yes, he should post source if he likes debating about the topic to you. But I don't see why he should when he is talking to a person that are so zoned in on proving him wrong to the point that you won't take your few precious seconds to go find what the fuck he is on about. Spoonfed little shits like you are annoying and should not have access to the Internet.

>>33801944
>>33805917

just think guys, a lot of those ISIS fighters deaths were caused by them being buried alive by the bomb

>>33808828

It really is though.
Humans develop and function at their best in traditional family units.

>>33809078
>Humans develop and function at their best in traditional family units.
Someone chose soft mother over wire mother.

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>>33802488
>It's time for another installment in the exciting series, how buttsex destroyed the roman empire!
You guys are fucking hilarious.
reminds me of when the USN tried to blame the time they accidentally the whole Iowa turret on gay buttsex instead of their own embarrassing incompetence

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>>33809099
With that said (pic), making an obscure reference might be amusing to some, but it doesn't make you sound any smarter or really bolster an argument.

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>>33809120
>reminds me of when the USN tried to blame the time they accidentally the whole Iowa turret on gay buttsex instead of their own embarrassing incompetence

Woah, what now?

>>33808828

Legalize shape shifting.

Spare everyone the madness.

Problem solved.

Except for the ensuing insanity.

>>33809148
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iowa_turret_explosion

>>33804904
One day i will be a rich man, my friend. On that day, all of your dreams about a T&A festival will come true, all of them, I promise.

>>33809078
Yea I'm going to need some sources for that.

>>33803318

u wot m8

>You ever wonder why russia detonated it once to say "xaxa america bomb is puny in compare to might of russia" and then it was never spoken of again?

You are talking out of your ass. The same thing can be said about MOAB until it was finally used in Afghanistan. And now it won`t be used again for a long time now

>>33801944
It's a big deal because it's made out to be one, MOAB is a psychological shock and awe weapon: "woah holy shit they are bringing out the big guns abdul i wanna go back to goat farming", the actual direct effects are secondary and easily and more cheaply achievable with more conventional PGMs

>>33801944
That's a big bomb.

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>>33802110

>be america
>dig tunnels in afghanistan
>later bomb them
Money well spent

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>>33809186
>tfw he wasn't even kidding

gg USN

>>33803572
Faggot

>>33809503
But if they have a bunch of them in stuck why not bring some of them out?

>>33801944
300 million dollar bomb to kill few people and it is not even confirmed.
Now imagine of those tax money actually went in something useful.

>>33801944
There's ISIS in Afghanistan?

>>33804119
bout to marginalize dat ass son

>>33810571
>Now imagine of those tax money actually went in something useful.

Like what, more welfare checks or bank bailouts?
Making big ass bombs is at least an interesting way to spend that money.

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>>33801944
like pissing in an ocean of piss, really

>>33810601
>Like what, more welfare checks or bank bailouts?
This just shows how self contained your mind is.
If you are limited by social politics it doesn't mean that research institutes are not in constant need of funds for something that will make OUR lives better.

the rest
http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/where-the-mother-of-all-bombs-dropped?articleId=USRTS13O56

>>33810627
>if we cut down on military spending, the taxpayer money will be used for science instead!
>calls others self-contained

What kind of la la fantasy land do you live in?
Is it located in this plane of existence?

>>33810637
>everything researched has to goal to kill other animals like myself
There is a shit ton of diseases that need to be eradicated.

>>33810644

Care to try again, this time in English and preferably responding to what I actually wrote rather than some kind of a fantasy your mind decided to replace my post with?
We're not all privy to what happens in a brain on Asperger's.

>>33810654
>being this buthurt
>MUH MILLITARY POWA
>IMMA KILL ALL GOATFUCKERS XXDDD

>>33810672
>preferably responding to what I actually wrote rather than some kind of a fantasy your mind decided to replace my post with

>>33806784
>Did you think he meant something else by "family values and staunch Catholicism"?
Corruption and family do seem to go hand in hand. And naturally Catholicism and bribery do but that's hardly news.

>>33807814
>They will expire soon anyways
I figured that that was a non-trivial factor in deciding to use tomahawks on Syria.

>>33801944
I think the explosives get less effective over time because of oxydation and shit. But I am no chemist. But I would also think that guidence systems on bombs get outdated really fast so they better use them up.

>>33802100
truely this. In ww2 they were called blockbuster for the sheer explosive power they had. They could bust a whole apartment block hence the name.

>>33810703

These wouldn't expire but they would have to go through re-certification by Raytheon, which is in no way cheap, so yeah, that might have been a factor.

>>33801944
>Now that the dust has settled, just how big a deal was it really to drop a MOAB on ISIS in Afghanistan?

Tax payer money actually being used.

Ask anyone who was deployed to Afgh and they'll tell you it was pointless. Why? There's no infrastructure that MOAB is worth destroying.

>>33802488
>>33802911
Kek, you think /pol/ would come up with something like that?

This was Bush era propaganda in the wake of 9/11.

That said, this fortress looks super comfy. It would have been amazing if it were real.

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>>33801944
Use of the MOAB was pretty tasteless imo

A good way to prop up support amoung the boomer and retarded conservative demographic (we got us a president with some big 'ol balls!) while betraying your base on immigration, foreign policy etc.

In hindsight we should have voted for Hillary and called it accelerationism

>>33811490
We killed a lot of dirt, this dirt was very evil. The Afghans are very thankful.

>officially fight the terrorism around the middle east
>have big ass multi million dollar bombs that are about to expire
>???
>profit
Pretty smart. Why bother using multiple smaller bombs when effect will be more or less the same and money is already spent?

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>>33812031
>accelerationism
That only works if we have the initiative when "it happens." Let's say the catalyst is WWIII. Let's also say that TPTB were going to make sure it happens no matter what. It may be better to have Trump there instead of Hillary, even if only for the optics. Keeping up people's spirits will be a huge part of the struggle. Varg is a loser who is tired of winning.

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>people arguing over the ethics of bombing goatfuckers

>>33802083
Do you think isis fighter give a fuck about losing 100 men?

>>33811994
>you think /pol/ would come up with something like that?
He means the shit the person typed, not the infographic.

>>33802488
Phil, you forgot your trip

>>33801959
You meant a post expiration date weapon is an useless weapon, my boi

>>33807374
>supersonic shockwaves
i'm going to trust your opinion because you sound smart.

>>33812031
How to identify a demotivation shill.

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>>33801944
It probably would have been more effective to just start indiscriminate carpet bombing like in WWII or in Hanoi.

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>>33812155
>pic
HOLY SHIT
WHAT IS THAT?