Thinking about buying a vz-58 and or vz2008 for my first semi-automatic

>>33798909
They're fine rifles, mags are more expensive than steel ak mags and harder to find. Don't cheap out on the vz2008 and buy Czechpoint usa.

>>33798920
I've been looking at a vz2008 with 6 mags a bunch of parts and a bayonet for fairly cheap, under $800 cheap. Also any reason not to buy the vz2008, I've read some good reviews of it and some bad ones.

>>33798934
Because no bad reviews are better than some.
Also I don't trust Century to build anything that isn't an AK parts kit.

>>33798909
The vz58 is my favorite rifle I own, and I have 5 aks in 5 calibers etc.
A friend of mine has a vz2008. I'd also pick that over any standard sub 1k-ish ak.
They're great rifles either way, but the century is rougher in fit and finish. I'd suggest a fixed stock for comfort and overall shooting, but the folder stock is pretty decent feeling too IMO.

>>33798909
They're alright.

If you buy one with a slant-cut muzzlebrake, take it off and either replace it with an appropriate birdcage flash hider or leave it bare, it'll improve your groupings.

>>33798920

if you're getting one in 5.56, just get the mag adapter.

>>33798934
That's what vz2008s cost now? I remember 3 years ago some company had them for $400 they didn't last long

>>33799779

new production CSA vz's are a grand and up.

>>33798909
is it true that you can use sks stripper clips on a vz?

>>33799944
I don't have the webm on hand but yes it is

>>33799819
That's czechpoint, I'm talking about Century

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>>33798909
get a carbine from CSA
pic related

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>>33800022
Yes, parts kits are drying up so new vz2008s are a mixed of surplus and us made parts. Green Mountain makes the barrels I believe and I believe another company creates the recievers. Furniture is now black tacticool rails with foregrip with a standerd folding stock

>>33799944
Yes, there's a cutout for stripperclips and a bolt hold open so you can strip a clip into a Vz58 mag.

I suppose if you lived in the People's Republic Of Kalifornia, you could have a Vz58 rifle with a fixed 10rd mag and then reload it with stripperclips, like a much nicer SKS.

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>>33799944
>>33799990
I gotcha with the webm

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>>33800216
>Furniture is now black tacticool rails with foregrip

>>33800687

stock wood vz furniture is fucking disgusting and only contrarians think otherwise.

>>33800623
What makes it nicer than the SKS?

>>33800687
That doesn't mean that tacticool rails are any better

>>33800701
Meant to reply to
>>33800688

>>33800688

>>33800701

>one is ugly
>one lets you mount optics and foregrips

gee

>>33800689
Pistolgrip, somewhat nicer accuracy, and the fact that it's designed for detachable magazines, so if laws change or the state just goes tits up, it's easy to have a gun with detachable mags.

>>33800688
"Wrong."

>>33799730
This, this is exactly what happened to my friend's gun. We pulled that thing off and it helped a ton.
>>33799593 here

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>>33798909
I'm Czechfag, so Vz.58 is the matter of the heart for me

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>>33800664
*clips*

>>33799779
I got my cai vz2008 for 399 but paying more money to buy all the mako group hand guard and grip and stock

I remember when AIM surplus offered them as a package deal with three mags in a pouch and a bayonet for $499.

>>33800732
>implying the tacticool rails aren't ugly as sin, so ugly in fact it negates the benefit of mounting lights and grips

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Whan about some literal shitpost?

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stay away from century VZ58s and get superior czechpoint rifle