What goes on behind the scenes of deciding which guns are used

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>>33779484

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>>33779484
>In Skyfall all the british police had them (which I think is bullshit they use HKs right?)

There's normally a meeting with the armourer and the production team, the armourer will lay out what kind of guns he would recommend and then they decide unless its something specific and a one off then it'll be created be the armorer and mould /prop makers. how do I now? Ive worked on many movies in the UK

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>>33779484
>other companies are making cheaper, more ergonomic and more effective versions

Only problem is they don't.

>>33779484
https://youtu.be/zgFPf5xcAJA

"Faster" hired an advisor. It's one of the few movies with good gun selections matched appropriately to the characters.

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>>33779484
>They're still boring, mediocre pistols that run pretty well and are easy to use but aren't that pleasant to look at or shoot.

Great, don't shoot them then and stop proselytising agaisnt Glocks.

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>>33779532
>matched appropriately to the characters

so what, the rock has a deagle or 29?

>>33779548
Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan, pretty fitting

>>33779519
S&W M&P
CZ P10
Beretta APX
FN FNS 9

If you want a striker fire polymer pistol there are so many better options these days

So this is just a thread so fag OP can bitch about Glocks, right?

>>33779484

>Lost military contracts

The gen5 just won the FBI contract

>Boring and mediocre

Get a 1cm Glock 40, 20, or 29 and put some 200 grain Underwood's in that bitch. Swap the barrel and shoot hipster .357Sig or 9dillon. Too poor? Shoot the .40sw.

>>33779612

That's what I took from this apart from eye cancer.

>In "Spectre" Bond shoots down a helicopter with his .380 PPK (from a moving boat at an upsurdley long distance).
I don't think they hired an advisor.

>>33779484

No the British police generally use glock 17s. Maybe the occasional 19 if they need to conceal it.

I believe most of the time James Bond uses a glock he has taken it from a bad guy (like I'm your original picture). Wasn't he using a P7 in spectre?

I imagine unless the writer/ director is particularly keen on guns or has a specific one mind, they just go with glocks as they are ubiquitous and easy to get hold of.

>>33779702

Whoops. Just checked imfdb and it wasn't a p7. Only saw the movie once.

>It would make sense. Glock lost the military contract and will probably start losing some of the civillian market now that other companies are making cheaper, more ergonomic and more effective versions of their once virtually exclusive design.

People didn't start buying Glocks because the military uses them. Glocks are priced at $500 because that is what other good handguns sell for. They have a huge profit margin. If Glock's reputation failed to keep sales high in the face of competition from other polymer pistols, they can just lower the price.

>>33779596
How are they "better" options? Because they satisfy your likes and desires in a hand gun?

I am not a Glock fan, at all. I have a 19, that I inherited. I wouldn't have chose it for myself. That being said, the Glock has a track record that is unparalleled in the polymer framed market.

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>>33779502
mfw

>>33779755
>"track record that is unparalleled in the polymer framed market"

>glock leg

>>33779688
>upsurdley

>>33779779
>ND into leg
>guns fault

>>33779618

>1cm

>>33779538
>p-pls no bully !

>>33779512
Really? I'm not saying the Jews run Hollywood, but I had figured they'd have the sense to make some extra money by offering the manufacturers a contract to supply guns for the movie - at least the action movies that feature guns more prominently.

>>33779532
>>33779548
The rock has a .44mag revolver because they wanted a simple, blunt and strong weapon to represent his character. It was meant to symbolize an honest purity of his vengeful smiting.
The rich playboy has an hk p30 which was still fairly new at the time.
The sleazy detective switches between a blued .38spec and a Glock.
The sexy blonde woman has a compact 1911.
and so on....

I've seen movies where they just give the guy who is supposed to be a badass a .50ae deagle and just have him hold it out gratuitously in every shot. It's lame if not altogether annoying.

>>33779548
>>33780400
Funny enough, no shit, Supernatural is like that, too. I know it's a Tumblr tier show, but the first half of it's pretty damn good, and actually pretty /k/. There's the whole "cryptid" thing it has going, there's literally a skinwalker in the second episode, and they have a trunk full of fucking guns.

The crazy part is, just like that, they had do have chosen the guns with some intelligence. The All-American, brute force brother primarily uses an engraved 1911 and double barrel, and the more thinking, law-trained brother uses a Beretta (Theoretically, prop's a Taurus) with higher capacity and what seems like a birdshead-grip shortened shotgun so it'd still be legal. Way down the line he becomes soulless, and only for that period switches over to an Mk. 23 before going back to his original once that's all wrapped up.

It was a detail I was not expecting in that show.

>>33779484
>I've noticed in general that Glocks are being featured much more in films. Back in the 90s and early 00s they were pretty much only used by gangstas and extras in movies, despite being literally everywhere in real life.
That's because departments still used lots of shit like 5903s etc. In the 90s you even still saw lots of revolvers in the hands of movie LE.
You're really reading way too much into this but that's not surprising considering
>such a vulgar display of jewing.
It's a mix of art direction, character design, and what the prop house/production companies have available, and maybe advertising figures in somewhere but it's not usually as significant a factor as the writer/director's taste.

In that scene in Skyfall he lost his personal weapon in the Casino. In Spectre he is not on official business in the opening scene. In both contexts it makes sense both in practicality and direction, it's not a Glock he shoots down a helicopter with.

>>33780589
I saw the episode where they used salt to trap an evil spirit and I just couldn't ever take it seriously. Then again I love the X-files and it is some of the cheesiest stuff known to man, not always deliberately.

>>33780043

Yeah I'm pretty sure that guy's company is shit. Any time you see a beer brand or something the movie biz knows it's advertising and tries to get a dollar from it.

>>33779484
why even bring up movies at all? you obviously just wanted to shitpost about how much you dont like glocks.

and still, nobody cares.

>>33779755
A track record of sucking. It's Michael bay's gun of choice if you catch my drift

>>33780400
wrong its a Ruger Super red hawk alaskan
.454 casull because of the solid cylinder (no fluting)

>>33779484
>I definitely feel that the last John Wick movie was the result of such a vulgar display of jewing.
I hope you realize those blinged out taran tactical glock, AR, and M4 benelli was due to Keanu's training of 3 gun with Taran Tactical for the movie.
Everything else was just your regular glock and smattering of whatever guns.
Although that Arsenal strike one common was using comes to mind as something I never saw in a film before.

>>33783064
Forgot, congrats you're right. I almost bought the .44mag version once but decided I didn't want that short of a barrel.
Anyway grats, like you win or something I guess. Good job.

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>>33779779
>>33781189
>when your only rebuttal is memes

Tombstone is an interesting one. They used exclusively iirc one guy's collection of cowboy guns, and this guy has a small part in the film.

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>>33779484
generally it depends on a few things
>how autistic to detail/caring the director is
>how much the production crew is willing to care
>the script writers attention to detail/giving a general fuck
>the actors/production crew willing to find and put up with an armorer

ive worked on a few movie and tv sets and it varies. You have to remember there is a lot going on between the production, the budget, the shooting schedule, re-writes, putting up with various cast and crew bullshit, ect for the director to really care that this character is using a glock 19 and that not special/accurate enough for your liking. At best you have somebody that is such a control freak they care about those little details and can make it happen. Give this character this weapon because it fits there persona or makes sense for the story. I knew a guy that worked on true detective and said they specifically named guns or types of guns to fit the story
>marty uses a .357 because hes a country cop, but they wanted something a bit more intimidating then a j frame
>rust uses a 9mm becuase hes been through some shit and likes something more modern and has more firepower. they picked a sig because it looked a bit cooler then a vannila glock but werent specific on what it had to be
that sort of thing. Then, worst case scenario you have somebody that hates guns/is afraid of them (directors, actors, writers) and they refuse to give a shit so they just write
>this character uses their pistol in this scene
and maybe mention its a 9mm, or looks like a police/gangster/spec ops gun and they throw something together.
Basically its a crap shoot that (like everything else with the movie) depends on the movies limitations and what people can/are willing to put up with

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>>33779484
we've had threads on this before
theres like 5 major armorers in the hollywood and every one either rents from them or somebody on the picture buys the gun props and rents them
also>>33786996. If a company is willing to shill for product placement thats another story

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>>33779851
I'm not that guy, or an autist, but in high stress situations it's easy to holster and forget to do it as slowly or carefully as you should. This is the exact reason many cops still prefer hammer fired, and also why there was enough market demand for the Glock "gadget" to be created.

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>>33779484
glocks are the modern day smith and wesson revolver
>everyone uses one. police,military, criminals
>simple to use, easier to acquire
>very believable for a character to get one in almost any setting
>identifiable for the audience, even if you dont know guns you know glocks
if you throw in some hipster gun that most people dont know it makes all of that harder. Guns are just props in movies, tools uses to get from point A to B in the plot

I like the Supernatural series but I don't usually tell people and the "bro" moments are annoying as fuck. Using an old colt with magic bullets to shoot demons is oddly soothing.

>>33783885
>God I wish that were me
Too bad gatman is twice the shooter I'll ever be

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>>33787209
The unfortunate difference being, they're ugly as sin.

If a /k/ommando got to pick the guns used in a movie, would they just pick all their favorites?

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>>33787319
could be worse
every glock knock off seems to get it uglier and uglier

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>>33779484
>script says one thing
>producer says another
>military adviser lends opinion with no one listening
>director says no, do this
>another producer says, nah, use this
>military adviser looking at paycheck to avoid an here
>feeling guilty, he tries performing his job once more
>is fired for attacking studio's vision
>small bit actor who's a vet tries to defend adviser
>also fired from role
>both are blacklisted from working in hollywood again
>protagonist goes on to kill semi-auto with a muzzle-loader
>military adviser kills himself for failing after a week in a dark motel room
>vet actor follows suit after five years of trying to make it
>actor who portrayed reality so poorly kill himself a decade after

>>33787349
>James Bond running around with a Nugget
Would watch

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>>33787365
Wrong.

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>>33787423
its basically just a turkshit M&P

>>33787349
depends on the movie. Some need iconic weapons that fit the theme, others do need a vanilla glock or sig or M16
id be more focused on making the actors know how to shoot so they dont look like idiots and ruin my movie

>>33787365

That's much better looking than your basic bitch glock

>>33786996
Worked in scripted TV, can confirm. Also some people who make these kinds of decisions in the industry don't want to be seen as a kind of "gun person", so they intentionally ignore or neglect to give a shit about the choice for social or political reasons.

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>>33787507
But sexier. So much sexier.

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>TFW the sequel to Prometheus is using M4 rifles

This is the same universe that is home to the fucking pulse rifle. For ducks sake.

>>33779484

James Bond always uses a "Bond gun". Something that is small and sleek. It's heresy to show James using a 1911 or desert eagle.

>>33779538
>>33779548
SEK is so goddam aesthetic

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>>33788299
pretty sure brosnan got a higher bodycount than all the previous bonds put together with a krink

>>33787951
Looks like the retarded offspring of an sd9ve and a glock 19.

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>>33788289
>You called

>>33787176
Yeah no one buys that shit. There's a reason every company making such designs stay in mediocrity or fail, despite advertising to the largest handgun market.

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>>33780829
>I saw the episode where they used salt to trap an evil spirit
/x/-/k/ommando here, that is how you protect yourself from a spirit. Supposedly the purity of the salt creates a barrier as well as messes with the spirit's ectoplasm causing them to "loose coherence".

>>33780400
Early Supernatural was GOAT. Each episode was like the best X-Files creature-features. And the writers really did their homework when it came to weapons and authentic spook removal tactics and strategies. Plus the entire first story arc revolves around recovering a pistol and bullets created by Samuel Colt that can kill anything including spooks.

>>33789778
Supernatural was supposed to only go to season 5. That's why everything was so good. If you'll notice the ending of season 5 wrapped everything up perfectly. Everything past that has been written by multiple writers on the fly.

>>33779484
> Glock lost the military contract
What were they replaced with?

>>33789849
They weren't replaced with anything, they weren't chosen, they went with sigs instead

>>33789868
>implying Glock hadn't already donated thousands of guns that most of them are using right now
Grunts don't get to pick their own guns but all other combat units do. And most of them use Glocks.

>>33789898
He was asking about the pistol contract, not about SF using whatever they want to use

Bond's main weapon has almost always been Walther PPK and then, from 1999, Walther P99. Because a retired Army Major recommended the PPK to Ian Fleming.

>In one extensive letter to Fleming regarding the accuracy of Russian firearms Boothroyd suggested in passing that Bond should carry the German made 7.65mm Walther PPK (Polizei Pistolen Krimminal = CriminalPolice Pistol, designed for undercover detectives) as his chosen sidearm. Though not as accurate as some other pistols of the same era the PPK had the great advantage of using the 7.65mm calibre (0.32" cartridge) which was readily available all over the world, fitting in with Bonds Jet Set lifestyle perfectly.

Glocks, Sigs and Berettas have been picked up from stiffs.

>>33789868
So they were replaced with Sigs as the new pistol is what you're saying

>>33789920
All the iconic Bond guns came from the opinions of this guy. He's pretty much /k/ incarnate. Even turned a dresser into an indoor bullet catch

>>33788289
pulse rifle doesnt exist yet anon
though it would have been nice to see some effort in their gear other then "paint the m16s white"

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>>33787543
>That's much better looking
>thats even remotely good looking

>>33787888
but the gun people make the best movies
>michael mann
>clint eastwood
fuck thats all I can think of

>>33789920
you have to remember too, during the cold war there wasnt exactly a large number of pocket guns to choose from, not like how it is today
the ppk was both sexy and small, perfect for a spy/undercover gun both in movies and real life. But now its iconic as the james bond gun, so it would make sens for him to have a glock 19 or something else but marketing plays a big factor in these things

>>33779755
They are "better" because they address almost all of the problems people pay hundreds of dollars to fix when they buy a glock. I bought into the glock meme and it was a huge costly mistake. I should have just went with HK or SIG from the get go.

>>33787319
Thats not a smith, thats a colt.

>>33792188
>the ppk was both sexy and small, perfect for a spy/undercover gun both in movies and real life. But now its iconic as the james bond gun, so it would make sens for him to have a glock 19 or something else
Bond is somewhat of a traditionalist, I can't see him choosing a striker-fired. He likes classic things, but also considers pragmatics out of necessity. I think he might go for a polymer pistol, but one with an external hammer.

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>>33787365
Sweetie !

>>33792722
Poly-hammer pistols are all heug tho, or at least bigger than they need to be. I think that if it came down to it they would give him a small compact or a subcompact as first priority. If they wanted to drop Walther for some reason but still wanted a classic German pocket gun it would be cool as h*ck to give him a P7.

>>33792261
And it's also very popular, sexy, and easily recognizable.

>>33779484

It's literally just whatever the prop company has in stock + what the set crew decides to hand the actor.

>>33779484
I'm pretty sure big movie prop companies are exempt from gun laws