Was this just a cosmetic design idea to cut open the dust cover/slide

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Beretta plagiarized a bunch from the P-38 to make the 92's.

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cause it looks cool

>>33777594
>the barrel is exposed to being damaged if dropped
You would really have to hammer the shit out of it on rocks to do anything, to the point where the slide would be warped anyway

>>33777631

As usual, Germany bailed out the italians.

>>33777594
Less weight and the recoil seems to be less snappy and really smooth compared to a full frame gun. It's a great gun all memes aside

>>33777594
>you can somehow damage a barrel from a side impact that wouldn't warp a slide
>rain somehow won't enter other guns via the ejection port

Italians and Germans did it so that even weak, dirty, sluggish ejections would have the casing clear the slide/barrel assembly instead of being clamped in a stovepipe malfunction. The design is open enough to clear dirt and debris fairly well.

The Phrobis beretta slide was an attempt to create a fully enclosed slide, and it never succeeded.

>>33777594
>less weight comes to mind
This is the main reason.

> dirt can be tracked in under dusty sandy conditions and the barrel is exposed to being damaged if dropped
Theoretically, yes. Practically, you pretty much have to be packing in the dirt/sand yourself to impede the action.

>not much protection from rain either.
If your gun ceases functioning from a bit of water, you never had a gun to begin with.

Stovepipes occur far less.

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Cuz it looks fuckin cool nigga

>>33777594
I want to hold OP's hands

>>33777594
"Barreta slide" is actually pretty old, dating all the way back to early 20th century.

Idea is that open slide has easier time ejecting brass, but at the same time it has less mass than slide of similar length and thickness.

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Because its aesthetic as fuck

Well enjoy having direct rust and corrosion on your barrels then guys.

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>>33780225

>>33780225
>direct rust and corrosion
in contrast to indirect rust, I'm sure

>>33777678
It is a full frame pistol. The recoil is less snappy because it's short recoil with a locking block so the barrel only moves straight back, not down like a browning action.

>>33781517
Yes SIGs come from the factory pre-rusted and CZs get indirect rust under the paint.

>>33782068
It's called "patina." It's meant to give the guns a a classy, aged look.

FUCK

>>33777594
Yeah- This: >>33779642
Did you ever hear of the "custom process" to "lower and flare" an ejection port?
[It was/is popular on 1911s to 'enhance reliability']
Well, in the 92 series, basically the entire top of the slide is the ejection port.
What's better than a "lowered and flared" ejection port? A "lowered and flared" ENTIRE SLIDE!

The REAL question? Here: Why has nobody opened the entire top of their pistols' slides like beretta? I want to see a glock opened up like this (not just the top for ports- I'm talking halfway down the side of the slide, too). I want to see some 1911s done like this- and others, too!

>>33780225
>he doesnt take care of his guns

>>33784863
Browning style tilt barrels cant have have an open slide without some major work, the locking lugs are on top of the barrel and lock it to the slide.

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>>33778022
South Africa is a strange place so I won't pretend to know why they did this, but I very nearly bought a SP1 frame a few years ago

>>33785504
if the frame+trigger looked more like a 92, I'd love to buy a vektor

but as it is, that frame looks weird

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How has nobody pointed out that the exposed barrel is on the M92 because it is the signature look of Beretta pistols since the M1915/19 series pistols? I would say this is as much a reason as any other practical consideration.

M1923 pictured. Basically the final form of the M1915/19 series.

>>33785011
Yeah- it'd be more fugly, but they should still do this. Glock would also have to have a bearing surface on to p of the slide to make the breech block lock properly in place. I still want to see some of these models with a massive "lightening cut", though.

>>33786432
people like to meme about the P-38 because they think the krauts did everything first

I always did want one of the earlier berettas, even if they did look a little dopey

if not for the dopey trigger+trigger guard I'd have dozens of 1934s and 1951s

>>33780225
No gunz faggot.

I've had over 12 personal Beretta 92s, and oversaw a fleet of 50. No issue you describe ever happened.

Biggest issue is lack of lube or shitty aftermarket mags on range.

>>33786432
Most people here are no gunz and no history.

The M1934/M1935 was one of the best pre war pistols made with all the advantage of open slide design.

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>>33777594

The idea was to reduce the possibility of jams by removing the front lip of the slide which is one of the spots a casing can get caught on and fail to eject (IE a stovepipe).

Beretta 92's have a reputation for dependability if they've been properly maintained, although a lot of GIs have a bad opinion of the M9 because the one's they've been issued tend to be beat to hell.

Also like this dude said its a signature design element like the grill on a BWM.

>>33786432

It does indeed look cool.

Man, I wish I could find a 92 that wasn't beat to death by decades worth of grunts. The poor pistols almost look like they've been chewed on.

Impossible to stovepipe.

You can own a 92FS and never have a jammu in ownership.

>>33789121

You mean an M9?

92's and M9's for the civilian market are widely available. You should buy one they're excellent guns provided you don't plan to conceal them.

>>33789147
>Impossible to stovepipe.

It's actually very possible to stovepipe with enough dirt/sand.

I got to hold a 92 at a gun store one week ago. It feels like a fine gun, almost as fine as a CZ.

My only complaint about it is the recessed mag release button, though that can be fixed easily.

>>33777631
>>33777641
At last I truly see

>>33786976
I you cut too much than the slide would be too light to function reliably.
The gun needs that mass to slow down some of the recoil so it doesnt extract too fast and also so that theirs enough mass to reliably stip a round and chamber it fully.
I find it funny when glocktards add all those lightning cuts, aftermarket barrels and springs and whatnot and then wonder why their perfect gun aint so perfect anymore

>>33789207
>almost as fine as a CZ
Truth. This is why I bought a CZ first and plan on getting a M92G second. Then a Sig P226. Then I will compare. It'll be a while for that though.