Which one out of the early single shoot breechloaders was generally

Werder rifle.

>>33759140
Rolling Block

>>33759164

I like how it seems the weakest and dangerous when in reality it's one of the more solid types.

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I think it has to be the elegant and hardy Bavarian Werder Infantry Rifle of 1869. It's the most refined evolution of the tipped breach mechanism seen in the Peabody and Martini designs.

>>33759306

Getting rid of the lever seems like a good idea.

>>33759140
I wanna say 1874 Gras just because it was obviously future proof and stood the test of time. It was converted/had parts reused for magazine loaders (navy Kropatschek) and was converted to fire 8mm Lebel as late at 1914. (Mle. 1874/M14) To be fair, it was mostly because the French just had so damn many of them and didn't want to just throw them away. So you could as well say the Springfield 1873 through 1888 was good too just on account of it being used until at least 1892 but it was, other than it being slow to reload it was a perfectly adequate rifle.

Sharpes

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The first Mauser Bolt action. Known as the "Needle Rifle"

>>33759801
The Dreyse ? The Chassepot was considered superior in all aspects and saw wider use.

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>they're posting rifles from the 1800s

A little late, fellas. Extremely strong action here, too.

>>33759852
I know that, but the needle rifle was the first of one of a series of some of the best firearms in history. It is just bias to be honest

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And why settle for a single shot when we already had repeating technology for quite a while?

>>33759801
>The first Mauser
>Dreyse

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Remington Lee 1879/1885

>>33760191
>single-shot breechloader
And you even posted the Rem-Lee 1899.

>>33759789
Thread

>>33760024

Because repeaters of the period were ether unreliable junk or used pistol cartridges.

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>>33760452

You're junk! Some of these repeaters came over at the very beginning of the "new world", which became the country we love today.

Show some respect.

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>>33760528
>>33760024
*Blocks your path*

>>33759140
Winchester 1885 High-Wall
>survived conversion from BP to smokeless
>continuous production from 1885 to 1974, short break in serial production (though still made in limited quantities), then continuous production from 1992 to present
>currently produced by 7 companies (Winchester, Browning, Pedersoli, Navy Arms, Uberti, and Buffalo Arms)
>with no mechanical changes has been produced in everything from .22lr to .300wm
>designed wholly by Our Lord and Savior JMB
>still considered an extremely accurate rifle even by modern standards, frequently sub-MOA out of the box
>extensive military usage by multiple nations

>>33759140
Remington rolling block

>>33760670

Browning really was a genius.

during black powder era, the sharps

>>33759789
this.
/thread

>>33760670
If it was as good as you think it is they wouldnt jave stopped making it

>>33759140
>single shoot breechloaders
None. As soon as they started doing breechloader they had repeaters. Only people behind the curve wanted singles shooters

>>33761618
They still make it.

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>>33759140
you got it right in the OP. there were better single shot breech guns, but none of them got mass acceptance.

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>>33759801
the first mauser was the Mauser-Norris, followed by the Gew 71 (top)

>>33759140
the gras, martini henry, snider,lee metford , mauser 88s rolling blocks, Vetterli were all excellent guns, the Chassepot and Dreyse too.

Most are superior to modern assault rifles in capability.

>>33761636
Suck a nut retard. Single shots are always going to be more accurate and a well trained rifle man will.be able to run it just as fast as any repeater

>>33761618
The third line explicitly says it's still in production

>>33761678
>none of them got mass acceptance.
Nice meme.

>>33761805
You're a retard, nothing you said is correct.

>>33759864
>breech loader

>>33759306
what am i looking at with the trigger?

>>33762467

Learn something.

>>33761636
>As soon as they started doing breechloader they had repeaters

Repeaters firing pistol ammo.

how much did you pay for the colonial kropatschek

>>33763728
shit meant for
>>33761690
might buy one for 510, it's in about the same condition

Were Brits the only ones to use levers in their main army rifle?

Martini must've been a pain to reload prone.

>>33763787
Shooting prone was not a concern to most armys back then.

>>33763787
The Swiss, Romanians, Spanish Colonial Army and Turks used Peabody action rifles, I think the Greeks used a Peabody too. Technically the Nepalese used a Martini action rifle they improved upon with the Gahendra. The British were definitely not the only ones to issue such a rifle, just the only ones widely remembered.

Speaking from experience, the Martini isn't that bad to load prone at all, especially with a short lever.

>>33765183
>improved upon with the Gahendra
>Gahendra
>improved

making the guns out of plain iron is not an improvement

>>33762528
The trigger in the front of the guard is the action release. It's a variation on the Peabody design

>>33760670
>designed wholly by Our Lord and Savior JMB
At 23

Also it's the easiest to shoot rapidly.
Open the action (ejects casing automatically)
load the cartridge
close the action (hammer cocks automatically)

Compare to a sharps or the like,
half cock the hammer
open the action
pull out the casing
load the cartridge
Close the action
full cock the hammer

But the 85 was kind of a latecomer to the single shot breachloaders. The marlin 1881 was a lever action 45-70 that predated even Brownings 1886.
if we're talking early early breachloaders the Hall rifle was revolutionary.
the problem with rifles before the invention of the minie ball was the fouling would make loading impossible after only a few shots until you cleaned it again. The breach loading Hall got around that since the rifleman didn't have to shove the ball down the barrel. All it could be loaded prone. The only downside was it guzzled powder. 100+ grains per shot since otherwise it would lose too much energy to the chamber-barrel gap