USA vs North Korea who would win? >inb4 MURICA STRONG! Seoul

>>33753621
All the US has to do is convince the chinks to march in and replace kimmy with someone who doesn't want to sling nukes every which way and they're done.

>>33753621
Two IOUs for a rice ration card have been deposited in the account of a general on your behalf.

>>33753621
like the last time right? The arty directed at Seoul would be fucked in a heart beat and as for being dug in that is when we show them how you properly use arty and air support. We literally just dropped a bomb that is designed for the express purpose of fucking dug in targets.

>>33753621
>liberals objecting
>Over North fucking Korea
I doubt they will, and if they do, nobody will listen.

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>>33753650
hahaha

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>>33753621
You seem to be discounting the ROK in this scenario. If the Norks flatten Seoul, they will now have to contend with millions of angry Sorks who've been getting ready for this shit for decades.

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>>33753621
The only card NK holds is the massed infantry they'd zerg rush over the border. Seoul is about 35 miles away, not sure they'd make it fast enough.

They weren't exactly helpless with anti-air in the first war, but Pyongyang still ended up looking like Hiroshima.

>>33753871
They already are, and have shown support.

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>>33753948

>>33753621

What is a more massive loss:

>Losing a single city from a satellite country
Versus:
>Losing your entire nation

Besides, they can use Pyongyang to replace it.

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>>33753621

>Liberals objecting

The National Guard will take care of that.

>>33753948
>zerg rush over the border
Wouldn't that be kinda hard to do with the walls, obstacles, rivers, barb wire, landmines, machinegun nests, etc on the 38th parallel?

>>33753621
>Seoul would be rekt before the Americans are even ready for battle.
Yes, because two of the most technologically advanced nations on earth totally haven't spent the last 20 years cataloging EVERY nork artillery site and marking them for immediate destruction.

US SEAD and CAP would give us air superiority very quickly, after that we'd be able to fuck their infantry and armor up pretty easily. It's gonna be Iraq 2.0, probably a bit easier.

If there are large amounts of NK holdouts after the central government has been destroyed then we're in for a fun occupation.

>>33753621
>Seoul would be rekt before the Americans are even ready for battle.

USA is ready to go at any moment and South Korea is prepared to bombard the shit out of North Korea. Hell China is prepared to bomb the shit out of North Korea.

>Even if the Americans could get bombers there quickly it's defended to the hilt with SAMs. Lots of B-52s and maybe even B-2s would go down in flames. Finally if it ever got as far as a ground war the norks are dug in like the mines of Moria, would be a long and bloody struggle.

Wing wing, he woah? Yes, this is 20th century, we called to tell you that we're no longer the current century. We also like to tell you about guided missiles and jets.

>Liberals will flail their limbs
Like usual.

>and USA will pull out battered and bruised.

That's only on kinky Thursday nights with Germany and Russia.

>>33753621
>Seoul would be rekt
holy fucking kek no
Mexico could beat North Korea in a full scale war.

>>33754149
>probably a bit easier.
Their most advanced aircraft are a mix of original export MiG-29s and -29SEs from the late 80s. They have no meaningful challenge to US/SK airpower.

>>33753621
I'll tell you how this would go.

>Supreme leader Nork fires a nuke at Seoul
>It embeds in a building and fails to detonate because lol korean quality
>Investigation figures out the unexploded ordinance is a nuke within hours
>Massive bombardment of North Korea commences immediately from South Korea
>American assets are scrambled and join the korean bombardment
>ship, air and land borne missiles obliterate every shred of military installations and industry existing in North Korea, since it is a country under constant satellite surveillance and all assets are known
>10 years later it's called the "36 hour war" on wikipedia, and there is only "Korea" not north and south.

>>33753621
>Seoul would be rekt before the Americans are even ready for battle
Only the northern, least densely populated part of it, and only by the largest guns. The North can't dedicate most of its artillery corps to solely bombarding Seoul and they'll be losing 1% of their guns to counterbattery by the hour, and that's a modest estimate.

>Even if the Americans could get bombers there quickly it's defended to the hilt with SAMs. Lots of B-52s and maybe even B-2s would go down in flames
Look how well that turned out for Saddam. The US spent the better part of the 70s and 80s turning medium altitude precision bombing into an art and NK's antiquated IADN is going to be dismantled in short order.

>Liberals will flail their limbs and USA will pull out battered and bruised.
Maybe if the Korean occupation turns into a drawn-out decade-spanning slog. Nobody will be shedding tears over Kim going down except the most contrarian /pol/acks. Even then South Korea is still there and will have a vested interest in stabilizing the North.

>>33753621
Idk, Binkov's battlegrounds hasn't done a video on it yet.

>>33753621

> USA convinces China to accept Kim as a political refugee
> in exchange, China can install a stable government in the DPRK that it has control over
> Kim lives in China with his wife and concubines and money
> DPRK has its nuke and missile programs dismantled
> several years later when they want some other minor thing from us, we trade it for custody of Kim, who China packs up and ships off to The Hague

China gets its stable buffer zone against Worst Korea, we get Kim for crimes against humanity and nobody has to deal with 25 million shit-stupid starving Nork refugees.

>>33753621
>us invades best korea
>china immediately scrambles to also invade
>it becomes the end of ww2 where the two large world powers are trying to carve off as much of a sphere of influence as possible

>>33753952
Not the ones I have talked to.

>>33756083

>Implying the US would want to trade a human life for any other financial/territorial gain with China

Unless the public push for it, the US could not give two shits whether he is held accountable for his actions or not.

>>33753952
People hear what they want to. Nobody is throwing a fit over North Korea, quit making shit up

I would expect norks to fight with the tenacity and determination of Japanese soldiers in WW2. It might be a very bloody war, except we have overwhelmingly superior technology.

How many US strike carriers operated simultaneously around Vietnam? And how many amphibious assault ships (used primarily for CSAR and spec ops)?

Just one carrier group doesn't account for much sabre rattling IMO.

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>>33753621
The Nork arty threat is overhyped - pic doesn't show all of their arty (not even within that area), but it does show range rings for their longest ranged systems, which are 240mm MRLS's. As for their anti-air, it's pathetic (mostly SA-2s with a few SA-3s - systems only considered advanced back in the 1960s/70s). Iraq also had a more advanced air force, although at least with NK you'll probably actually see the fighters stay in the air (until they're obliterated by Raptors) rather than not launch or immediately defect. An initial Tomahawk strike would be able to eliminate most of their SAMs, after which US jets would be able to fly over with pretty much impunity.

Just drop a few 10 megaton nukes on pyongyang. Problem solved.

>>33756380
>Just one carrier group doesn't account for much sabre rattling IMO.
Congratulations, you are a retard.

>>33753621
I'm Australian and even I'm ashamed of you.

>>33753621
600 tomahawk missiles.

Problem solved.

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2002
>Like Saddam will totally rekt the US
2017
>like Kim will totally rekt the US

>>33753621
With Trump at the helm US easy.

With any other president it turns to another Nam.

>>33754365
>Tfw no South or Central American country will ever get to show their gusto in a proper waf

>>33753621
>what is THAAD

Just slip some polonium into Kim's Pepsi Max.

>>33753931

i dont think they got enough food to make it past the border

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MURICA STRONG!

>>33756708
It's not Syria where Assad has his hands full, ISIS has no capabilities to speak of, Russians won't do shit and all nearby allies are able to care for themselves, so you can happily rain Tomahawks from a couple of destroyers.

If shit hits the fan in Korea, US has to commit quickly and in force. When business is Korea-level serious, one carrier group doesn't mean shit, there's always one around, they are built in such numbers specifically to maintain constant worldwide presence. It's the concentration of forces that should get Kim soiling himself.

>>33756194

It would be a good point for a president to score and letting Kim run to China rather than get buried alive in one of his pleasure bunkers would be a way to avoid totally levelling Best Korea. It would also keep us from having to feed a bunch of retarded Norks.

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>>33753621
The North would get fucked up pretty fast by overwhelming US/ROK airpower.

Best case scenario is Kim withdraws to his lair under Mt. Paektu and directs his strategic missile units to let loose with everything they've got, at least that way we could have a 9/11 style happening to watch. The DPRK doesn't have a functioning ICBM unfortunately so the carnage would be limited to Korea and Japan.

What's the theme song for Korean War II /k/?
>https://youtu.be/_QBBAZQ6FwE

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>US ever losing a conventional war

>>33753621
Their entire army would defect the moment we "bombed" them with hot meals. Also
>b2 going down in flames
Nork propaganda shill detected. Eat shit

>>33753621

>USA vs North Korea who would win?

South Korea.

The US has ~2 divisions protecting SK, vs Worst Korea's 47 divisions.

Also, NK's air defense would be like Iraq but even shittier. We'd finally get to mag dump an SSGN, bring a few carrier groups in to bomb with impunity, and SK would hold the line until NK fell apart. Now hold still while everyone else in the thread rapes your face.

>>33757476

>US ever winning a drawn out ground war

We can't. The nation gets pissy about wars that last years against third world nations without electrical grids.

Its like seal clubbing, except it's insanely expensive and kills Americans.

Seriously, war is ludicrously expensive as well as costing lives. We fire million dollar missiles at Toyota technicals and people with AKs.

The US could drop one nuke every 5 square miles in North Korea. If our bases in SK or Japan are wiped out (not gonna happen short of being nuked) there will be no escaping the US response. Only the northern 1/3 of Seoul is in range of NK arty. It is most likely that china will step in and tell Fat Boy to fuck off before he hits the US. If he hits the US China has said they will likely wash their hands of him.

>>33754365
>>33756857
>tensions between NK and the US/Sk are rising
>all sides are getting ready for war
>suddenly Mexico comes in, suckerpunches NK
>beats the shit out of the norks and proceeds to build a new state
>only to start streaming over into SK as illegals
>whereeverIamImustalsocrossborders.exe

>>33756655
not him but here is sauce on the pic:

http://m.blog.daum.net/inyeon33/8747315

KMZ:
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=809291&filename=DPRK_file.kmz

>>33757463
Everything about this picture is funny. The McMansion prefab paneling on the walls, the '60's microphone looking all lonely on the empty desk, hell, even the doily under the phone (which btw looks like the one in my office). Hell, even the chair looks like something surplussed from a geriatric home. It's a bad b-movie set constructed by people who have no idea what a functional setup is supposed to look like.

usa would win. assuming dprk strikes first; this would keep china out of it. it would completely ruin our diplomacy with surrounding countries though because of nuclear fallout from weapons used by both sides... also like OP said, hundreds of thousands if not millions of civilian casualties as the north has more than 3 thousand tanks about half an hour away from seoul and tons of tunnels in. bad idea to attack north korea... dont wanna piss china off. if they cut imports to usa half our economy stops overnight lol

The biggest advantage North Korea has is the terrain. Because of how the peninsula is set up light infantry are a major focus of both sides. You know how African states invest hard in paratroopers and shit? That's because they are the cheapest high-quality unit you can make, and many of those nations lack wide open plains to tankspam anyway. There's a similar logic at work with the Norks. The war will only last a few days (the amount of time it takes for their airspace to become American property) but IF they invested their limited resources properly it's going to suck for everyone involved. If it was easy we would have knocked off the Kim family decades ago.

>>33753621
It's extremely dubious that the artillery pointing at Seoul would even FIRE.

That shit has been standing there, with no maintenance, for decades and decades, I doubt you could even get the guns to extract, IF they managed to fire.

>>33758511
It worked pretty fucking well when they shelled Yeongpyeong

>>33758943
>a few people died
>shitloads of duds
And then they fired back.

Sure wonder what state their artillery is in now, considering it's the absolute bottom of the barrel of their armed forces and little attention is given to that equipment.

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>>33753650

>>33753621
It's not even a question about who would win. The only reason is at what cost.

>US vs Best Korea
>who would win

China.

>>33754046
Yeah, they would basically all be boxed in with their shit mobility and other shit equipment, and basically 0 air support, while the modernized and well equipped South dominates them like the slut they are with air and naval superiority.

>>33753621
>Implying that two hours after the war started we wouldn't get a call from North Korea's leadership, begging for us to evac them and offering to turn over Kim in exchange for getting their families out before the peasants figure out what they've been doing all these years and hang them from the lampposts.

>>33754564
>>33754564

this

>>33756909
>>33757575
Underrated kek

>>33753621
South Korea could beat NK by themselves

>>33754564
>single missile

Because suuure they'd fire one single missile instead fo the whole goddamn arsenal, conventional, chemicalandnuclear.

>muh fails to detonate

Fucking WWI tech is enough to reliably detonate a primitive nuke. Relying on it to fail is a retarded decision.

>constant satellite surveillance

Not actually a thing IRL. Because that's not how satellites work. (To say nohing of data processing.)

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>>33753621

>Seoul would be rekt

This, then...

>after the initial air attacks, the remaining parts of NK army hiding under a mountain lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against the burger infantry

US has done plenty to ensure technological development in the field of blowing up insurgents hiding in tunnels, caves etc.

Whatever is moving above ground WILL get destroyed.

And whatever stays underground, can't survive there for long because of morale, lack of technology, supplies etc.

What happens if after air defense suppression and with Norks mobilized along the border, USA will bomb Nork villages in the rear with pro-South propaganda leaflets and palettes of old AKs, RPGs and ammo?

>>33759380
We wouldn't do that, AKs and RPGs are far more expensive than Big Macs.

>>33759331
>Fucking WWI tech is enough to reliably detonate a primitive nuke
You assume they have both the capability of making their own nuclear warhead (one that works), and that they have a delivery system that works.

>>33754065
What the hell is "an artillery site"?

>>33759380
I think it would really just be cheaper to drop pallets of rice, beans and crates of slambang shotguns with 20 gauge shells and have the same ultimate effect.

Y'know, a more Liberator style, kill a guy and take his real weapon.

>>33759448
The spots where they keep their sighted in artillery.

That shit hasn't ever been moved since put in place.

>>33759448
It's fairly well known that North Korea has situated vast amounts of artillery in hardened emplacements for the sole purpose of shelling Seoul. It's no surprise that both South Korea and the United States have been cataloguing these emplacements for years and likely prioritizing which ones to bring down first. I would really expect any conflict with North Korea would start with a concentrated attack on said artillery to disable as much of it as possible before it can do appreciable damage to Seoul.

There is always the chance a lot of that artillery is pretty dysfunctional due to years of limited maintenance and stocks of rather ancient or low quality ammunition. Still gonna eat explosions if shit kicks off though.

>>33754564
/thread

>>33753621
>North Korea decides to fire the first shots in the war by murdering millions of civilians
That's a nice, big cassus belli you're just handing out. Nobody would argue about the ensuing invasion in the aftermath.

>>33753621
Ya we know your a fag for chubby dictators so go waste your time on pol with your fantasy.

>>33757567
Problem is America has no will for victory.

>>33754046
>>33759243
It would be a shooting gallery with WW1 level casualties on the NORKs side.

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>United States vs Gooks

United States would surely wi-

>>33760366
Except
>norks have little faith in leadership and are extremely miserable under current rule
>there's almost no economy or logistics
>large sections of norkieland is deforested
>there is NOBODY who will lend them aid or sympathy if shit starts

You're also forgetting that the Americans were dominating the NVA militarily, and that they pulled out of the war for political reasons, leaving the Vietnamese with their dicks in their hands and with the NVA to take the rest of the country.
The NVA wasn't exactly kicking their shit and demolishing US base after US base.

The circumstances are WILDLY different.

>>33753621
>Seoul would be rekt
Thread closed.

So is North Korea's best and only chance a mass nuclear and chemical strike on all major ports and troop concentrations?

>Crack South Korean army with surprise nukes
>Make it living hell for America to reinforce
>Infiltrate the border with their stealth (read: wooden) paratroop gliders and massive, fifty year old tunnel system
>Take out high value political targets like the Blue House ASAP
>Prioritize propaganda moments like NK flags over Seoul
>Try to negotiate a peace before America kicks the door in

Its a long shot, but am I right to think this is the correct war strategy for Kim?

>>33760742
When you say best chance, you mean best chance to inflict the most casualties? Absolutely.

No option, not even nuclear, results in the DPRK surviving. You could erase SK from the equation, you could even destroy an entire fleet of US ships (both highly improbable), but at the end of the day they fall and fall hard. Complete destruction of DPRK infrastructure, complete decapitation of the regime. If nuclear weapons were used, China and potentially even Russia would be ready to destroy them as well.

>>33753621
>inb4s OP post
Nork shills are newfags. Who'da thunk.

>>33753621
>USA will pull out battered and bruised.
See, that's the issue with every opponent the USA ever had.

They always assume the americans are soft-belly hedonist wimps who'll just rollover and die at the first slap because they're not ready to bear the "true cost of a patriotic war".

And they are right, to some extend :
American people don't want war.
They don't want to go fighting in a foreign land for no visible benefit except helping foreigners.
They will cry and protest once the coffins start coming home and the crippled are massing in the hospitals.
And if there's no clear sign that the people they are fighting to protect are on their side, they'll be dishearthened and pack home.

But before this happens, they'll wreck the shit out of whoever dared to hit them or their friends.

Thing is, the USA have become pretty good at this "wrecking shit" business.
"We kill a shit load of people very quickly and while losing close to none of ours" good.

It means that the whole conventional army of NK is worth exactly no shit :
It would be bombed to oblivion at all level above bataillon in a matter of days.
It would devolve into a largely static force, with only fortified defense and small-scale infiltrations as options.
No large-scale operations could be possible.

Yes, at that point, the norks might dig themselves into fucking caves like some slitted eyes talibans or some winter version of the VC.
But who cares ? The aim is not to invade and occupy the North. Even the SK don't want it...

So USA will wreck all of NK's infrastructure and let Kim rebuild.
When we know that, despite USSR's help, they weren't even at 1/10th of SK after 50 years, that "rebuild" thing ain't really scary.

>>33754365
It'd be like that new pledge in the frat that has no idea what rushing entails and is told to go start a fight and ends up brutalizing the fucker enhancing his status in the house

>>33760742
>>Crack South Korean army with surprise nukes
I'm pretty confident an SAM could take down their shitty SCUD missiles.

>>33753684
fun fact, it was only dropped in preparation for fighting the chinks and norks

>>33754040
What's that, kent state?

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>>33761822
Believe so

>>33753621
NK has the same future as East Germany did. Its only a mater of time

I love how commie fanboys think uf North Korea bombs Seoul they somehow instantly win the war and don't vilify themselves on a global scale once every big media from Fox to RT to even Al jizzera spam images of dead cilivians. Not to mention South Korea's military is superior to North Korea.

>>33754040
I didn't know they used Garands. I'm glad it has been confirmed that commies are indeed allergic to M2 ball.

>>33761453
Saturation attack. When there's thousands of missiles and ten carry nukes, what do you shoot?

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>>33764440
>Kim launches everything he has for one petty attack
>great success, SK destroyed, Kim happy
>But then, famine
>they destroyed their best chance at fixing their problems
>everyone starves because they're stuck in their shithole with nowhere to go
This is why this is a bad idea. You can't just willy-nilly nuke everything and everyone. Kim needs fertile land to feed his people. Without that, they will continue starving. He knows this, in order to become an actual force, he'd need to unite Korea while maintaining his grip on society

>>33756922
>When business is Korea-level serious, one carrier group doesn't mean shit
Sure, it's only capable of crushing his entire air force and bombarding his country virtually unopposed.

No big deal.

>>33759547
I just learned a new term today. First time I've ever learned anything on /k/.

>>33760627
Kek.
An interesting excuse each time

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>>33758943

k

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>>33760366

>forgetting that US has millions of South Korean Gooks on their side, who were the ultimate and most brutal Vietnam Gook sniffers in the war

>>33764440

Now you know why South Korea spreads its military around the whole country and maintain a 3 million reserve force

>>33766607
Casus belli...?


You betray your lack of a classical edumacation, sonny boy.

>>33767312

Honestly I heard it for the first time from Paradox games.

I learned several Romance languages so I can infer what that latin term means but yeah.

>>33756795
Well he didn't the lengthy occupation after him be deposed wrecked us

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>>33759331
>Fucking WWI tech is enough to reliably detonate a primitive nuke

>>33767387
hes not wrong. the hard part is getting fissile material there are plenty of ways to detonate a nuke thats far easier to do then the modern implosion systems.

Its been almost two decades since I saw anything on paper, but back then the expectation was between 12-14 days of delaying action / retreat until reinforcements started arriving from the states. Followed by 3-4 months to push NK back to the DMZ. All of the scenarios that gave a reasonable expectation of holding Seoul involved the release of US nuclear weapons in the first 24 hours.

>>33767414
a gun type assembly is still not WWI tech

that's like saying firearms are ancient roman technology because they had combustibles and metallurgy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKR_gC_yBPU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gkiRz_5XJU

NORTH KOREAN SOLDIERS SO STRONG NOT EVEN AXE AND STONE CAN BREAK THEM!

HOW CAN CAPITALIST STARCRAFT MAN SISSIES OF THE DECADENT WORST KOREA EVER DEFEAT US?!

>>33767623
firstly, a gun type assembly IS ww1 tech and secondly there are more then two methods in setting of a nuke.

seriously, back up your claim that a gun-type couldn't be made in ww1 if they had fissile material. i could understand that most of the implosion systems would not work since they didn't have the kind of precision detonators we developed later but fuck me man gun types don't require anything special for the time period bar the fissile material.

>>33767650
the fact that they didn't have fissile material is case in point

not to mention miniaturization for slappi g them on a targeted missile is way post WWII tech

he/you are wrong

if your argument is really "making subcritical nuclear material undergo explosive criticality is east for any actor with time and money in the modern world" then sure, you're on the money.

if your argument is "they could have conceivably made the bomb in WWI if some all powerful being gave them enough fissile material" then you're probably right but also making a very irrelevant point, notwithstanding the fact that there was no concept of such weapon prior to mass discovery of the neutron.

>>33767691
okay you get my point, i wasn't the original poster, i just came along mid argument. which started off on someone saying the norks nukes would prob fail to detonate. i just ran along with the ww1 comment when it was made as an analog. i would not bet a single cent on a nuke failing to detonate, sure the yield could be smaller then designed but it would still be a big nuclear explosion.

and on terms of miniaturisation something not especially needed if your targets are local in which most of the NoK's targets are. it is needed for the longer ranged stuff and is a hurdle there trying to get past. but if they wanted to nuke anything in theater or as far out as japan, they could.

>>33767718
Yeah that's fair and well stated.

>>33764868
>unopposed
So what? You have to generate enough sorties to be effective in the big picture. It's hard to achieve with just 4 strike fighter squadrons.

>>33759452
Your liberator-style guns can only be used (though with limited reliability) for suicide. Rifles chambered in local military caliber are what matters.

>>33753621
Real question is, how long until the inevitable MASH reboot?

>>33759331
>Fucking WWI tech
The DPRK is not using WWI technology in their nuclear weapons.

>>33759434
They have the capability of both of these things.

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>>33754365
>Mexico could beat North Korea in a full scale war.
Being this retarded.

>>33757572
As much bantz that goes back and forth.
China has been pretty smart about stepping to the side and letting America tire it's self out.

>>33756290
Sure, but it wouldn't be US or Chinese blood spilled, just tons of Nork blood

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>>33753621
We've had counter battery artillery crews drilling in Seoul since the 60s. The Norks night get off a couple dozen shots before they get their shit pushed in.

>>33763886
That picture doesn't make any sense. The guardsmen at Kent state had Garands.

>>33753621
>Seoul would be rekt before the Americans are even ready for batt-

and then there were rangers

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>>33753621

>Destroys your Seoul vassals

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>>33770672
Thats a whole lotta diddly

>>33770662
>>33770672
Literally B1-B Lancer food

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>>33770715

300 of 21500

>The "North Korea will totally destroy Seoul in a second guys!" meme.

http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/

It would be a humanitarian crisis of massive proportions, but far from what people freak out about.

>>33754040
You realize that Kent State almost led to a student revolution, right? The government was literally terrified people were going to march on the White House.

>>33771448
>almost
Here's the key word for you here.

thousands of people marched in DC but revolution was never a threat.

>>33754365
>We're going to invade North Korea and we're going to make Mexico fight for it!

>>33771535
You say that in hindsight. Things were a power keg.

>>33760742
>Crack South Korean army with surprise nukes
>get nuked back by US
fixed

>>33759370
Whatever moves underground won't survive because MOABs.

>>33771699
Hippies are still allergic to m2 ball. Nothing would have happened.

>>33757463
Everything they do look, porly cenografic.

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>>33770591
Fine

>>33760742
Even if Norks levelled Seoul, and planted flags, they still wouldn't win.

All the things that made Worst Korea successful, are economically and culturally abhorrent to the norks.

After Norks supposedly kicked arse, they'd gather around the rubble and say "now what"?.

Then the Northern end of South Korea would become just as dysfunctional and worthless as the rest the rest of "Best Korea".

Then of course, the Sorks, Yanks, and maybe even Chinks/Japs press the reset button on Best Korea, starting a 4 front war that lasts maybe 6 days at most. A race to take as much land before the Chinks occurs, much like the race for Berlin previously.

The Chinks and everyone else grumbles over their new prize, whilst wondering what to do with a few million impoverished, worthless Norks.

Of course, not bound by humanitarian limitations, the Chinese find a more profitable solution.

>Cute Nork mail order brides when?