Can we British weapons/military thread? What does /k/ think

LMT gud.

Gud. Should of had the longer barrel though.

>>33728614
>Can we British weapons/military thread?
You'll have one for roughly 20 posts, until someone shits it up with their usual anti-brit bullshit. Or some spastic chest beater will claim some obnoxious claim about our kit which'll trigger and piss off a bunch of overly-patriotic americans.

>What does /k/ think of their new rifle?
It's not new, it's a fantastic piece of kit, and it won't be needed outside of Afghanistan.

>Also, can a Brit explain the rivalry between the Royal Marines and Parachute Regiment, aren't they both just feeders for SBS/SAS?
Spent most of my career in 3para. It's just a piss about bit of banter, it doesn't mean anything. Bootnecks and us love to tell people who's better than who. All I can say is that; P Company training kicks out anyone who failed, and is very strict about it. Anyone who failed, cannot reapply, because they aren't the best of the best, and aren't willing to push themselves. In bootneck training, greenie instructers will force you to stay on, and you can repeatedly get down-platooned (pushed down an intake, meaning if you failed something you can retry it) multiple times. If you've somehow failed RM training, you'll be given a set amount of time before you can reapply. You make your mind up on which is the most elite.

A lot of old ex-maroons I've spoken to told me that the para\marine fight thing has been going on since WW2, because they're two different types of "Commando's." Meanwhile, others state the pissabout began during the shipping to the Falklands, during the Falklands war. Where members of 2 para started singing a song to the garrisoned marine onboard. The mentioned song being: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxNkQ3d2cmo

Taking the piss out of the troop of Marines who surrendered straight away after the Argentinians invaded the Islands.

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She's finally delivered!

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No harm in a good thread. Especially if people go for high end pictures.

>>33728670

They have a more sniper oriented version for the No.2 in a sniper team to use. Pic related.

>>33728705

>and it won't be needed outside of Afghanistan.

It's already in service post Afghanistan in a new role.

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>>33728950

The Tide class are absolutely fantastic looking. With four of those 37,000 tonne ships, the two Wave class oilers, the MV Maersk Rapier and the three upcoming MARS SSS ships which should also be around 30,000+, the RFA is in a really good place at the moment.

To give an idea of how much thats pushing, by 2027, the RFA will have more tonnage in its logistics arm than the French, German, Italian, Spanish, Norweigan, Dutch and Portugese logistics arms combined. Thats not to try and push a comparison thread or a chest beating, but just to make the scale of the work going on in the RFA very clear.

Definitely the place to watch, given the Type 26, carriers and F-35 news tends to overshadow it a lot.

>>33729050

Certainly makes the 2025 vision of being able to deploy 50 000 sized expeditionary force all the more realistic.

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I know the context of this shot and where it was taken.

Still makes no sense though.

>>33729308

How would you make it, make sense?

>>33728705
>and it won't be needed outside of Afghanistan.
why wont they have a place for a 308 DMR in other conflicts

>>33728705

What are the differences in Parachute Regiment and Royal Marine training, if there are any?

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>>33729362

It's 7.62mm NATO.

But you're entirely right, they definitely have a use and they are being kept.

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>>33729491

Sorry, linked a crappy gif instead of the superior webm.

>>33728705
>Anyone who failed, cannot reapply, because they aren't the best of the best, and aren't willing to push themselves.

Don't you get two tries to join it?

>>33729512

Always a sexy shot.

>>33729491
>308
>7.62 NATO

They're basically the same thing, anon...

>>33729512
Am on mobile thanks for your blunder

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>>33729537

I am beginning to regret not sleeping last night. Fuck sake.

>>33728705

>DMR
>no use outside the sandbox
>not wanting a counter marksman

Lolretard. There's a push for more DMRs in general in modern militaries after people realised being able to outrange a service rifle was better than just matching it.

Also since the Boxer deal got scrapped due to Rheinmetall being cunts about production has there been a replacement program yet?

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>>33729649

MIV is between Boxer, AMV, VBCI and LAV-V.

No (new) trials have been conducted officially as part of this program yet. They're still listening to what each manufacturer can provide.

AMV is easily showing the best solution thus far though. They've gotten the Warrior's (new) turret with CT40 and Javelins ATGMs onto the AMV for commonality.

>>33729649
>>33729832

FRES... what a fucking joke.

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>>33729862

You couldn't find a more mismanaged program if you tried.

Even if Ajax and (if it's picked) AMV are great vehicles in the end, there's absolutely no getting around that the process from "lets replace these vehicles" to "we have replaced these vehicles" is utterly farcicle.

For those not in the know, pic related is what FRES once was, back when it was a program between UK/US.

Should I go regular infantry or try out for Royal Marines or Paras lads?

>>33729978
What's your run time?

What do you do in your spare time?

How much can you drink?

What's your sexual orientation?

Do you plan to make it a career or only for a short while?

Do you want shoddy knees, back, or calves?

>>33730030
>What's your run time?
Not ran in years

What do you do in your spare time?
Fap, drink, game

How much can you drink?
14-16 pints is my usual pass out point, I do this a few times a week. Even had alcoholic hepatitis before.

What's your sexual orientation?
Straight

Do you plan to make it a career or only for a short while?
Short while, 4 years but if I had no option I would stay in and try to make it to retirement

Do you want shoddy knees, back, or calves?
If I have to have them I will

When are we getting the Challenger 3?

>>33730062
REME or Signals is your best bet, mate.

>>33730112

Why mate?

>>33730143
>that unnatural sounding out of place "mate"

Stop pretending to be a Brit

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>>33730085

Challenger 2 LEP program concludes its design prototype phase in 2019, where we'll see two separate submissions. One by Pearson/Rheinmetall, and the other by BAE/Leonardo (I think, I'd have to check).

Qinetic is also trialing MUSS APS on the Challenger 2 in 2018.

Pearson/Rheinmetall's submission is clearly the most ambitious, including the aforementioned MUSS APS, the L55 120mm Smoothbore, a modified turret design that seems to hint at an Abrams style ammunition storage (although that one is extremely vague speculation from one off perspective CGI) and entirely new sights and sensors, alongside a new C4I system.

Also on the cards between them and the opposing submission team is an upgrade to 1,500hp engine, joint-fire control, existing engine upgrades (if the 1,500 isn't taken), suspension upgrades and new ammunition.

Before anyone says it, the CGI image gun looking like an L30A1 is accurate, as the smoothbore for the Challenger is a hybrid gun that uses some aspects of the L30 externally like the thermal sleeve. Got another picture somewhere of it.

>>33728614
lmao fuck no, teabags suck

>>33730143
Because you're not cut out to be a bootneck or maroon. You'd struggle to go regular infantry also.

>>33730188
Is it just my fitness? I'm sure I could get up to par within 1-2 years.

>>33730030
>What's your sexual orientation?

UK Military guide for sexual orientation:

>Royal Navy
Play with each others balls and drink piss in a non-homo way
>RAF
Suck and fuck each other off in a homo way
>Army
Lad standard gay banter
>2Para
Get paid to be fucked in the arse

>>33730062
>>What's your run time?
>Not ran in years

How old are you? Infantry training can be rough if you are a bit older especially since you will need a year to get up to scratch fitness wise.

>>33730253
>1Para
payed to fuck the irish

>>33730253
>>2Para
>Get paid to be fucked in the arse
You mean 3 Para Mortars.

https://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/3_Para_Mortar_Platoon

>>33730281

Aye my mistake.

>>33730251
No, just your general lifestyle.

Trust me, your life will be miserable if you go anywhere besides Signals and REME.

>>33730251
Not the guy you're replying to but you have to have a certain mindset to qualify as well. From speaking to a para myself you have to have the fire in your belly, not this weak "4 years but if I had no option " crap

>>33730281
>>33728705
How is it decided whether you go into 2 or 3 para?

t. wannabe

>>33730381
You can choose your Regiment but not your Battalion, you can ask but the needs of the Army come first.

>>33730406
Are you the 3para dude? If so whats your opinion of the lads in 4para? I am in higher education right now so I want to join 4para for a few years and give the real deal a shot after graduation. Is P coy the same for reservists as it is for regulars? Would I be looked down on?

>>33730437
>Are you the 3para dude?
No, I was in the PWRR and spent my time bouncing between the two regular Battalions.

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Oi, lads. Not enough cool photos.

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>>33729832

Boxer has mission modules that can be added/removed. Allowing Brits to also easily manufacture their own modules possibly in the future. Along with virtually besting the Patria in nearly every category that isn't the pricetag.

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>>33729002
>high end pictures

>>33730648

Ants?

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Love Vikings.

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An interesting fact about this weapon, it was hit by an IED and looks completely fucked but apparently it was feeding just fine and did not suffer from accuracy issues, the UGLwas non functional and was written off though.

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>>33730678

>>33730692
It looks like just the handguard got ruined. Nothing a bit of duct tape couldn't fix.

>>33730715
I am still impressed though, I would have thought the SUSAT would have been smashed but those things have always been tough.

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These are different patterns apparently.

>>33730062
What's your age? Sorry to burst your bubble but some 18 year old that's played highschool sports for the last 4 years is way ahead of a 25 year old that's went from job to job and drank a lot.

>>33730455

Hey there, Tiger.

>>33730258
>>33730809

I'm 24 lads, never played any sport apart from lifting weights which desu has probably made my cardiovascular fitness even worse.

>>33730823
I need at least a pint of Vodka before we fuck.

>>33730795
If you look carefully the MTP keeps the DPM style brush strokes whilst the multicam has more blotches. I won't deny the colour pallete is pretty similar but MTP has more brown.

>>33730834
How often do you lift and whats your routine? You could start couch to 5k and make minimum Army fitness within 6 months if you cut right down on the drinking but I think even line Infantry Regiments are beyond you, look into joining a Corps.

>>33730754

I've dropped a SUSAT through a hole in the floor (changing for CWIS) and it landed on a concrete slab. Lost a bit of paint and knocked the backup iron sight blade askew. That was it.

Those things are tough as fuck.

>>33730709
What?

>>33730839

You haven't seen how ugly I am.

>>33730841
I really cannot see it, only the velcro on the yank version and the union flag on the Brit one sets them apart in my eyes. This is why I failed art at school, even my stick men look shit.

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>>33729371
Not much from what I've seen (hopefully future RM here). Both do Phase 1, basic infanteering, Phase 2 both focus on advance infanteering, Phase 3 (correct me if I'm wrong) is when training really changes, with Paras doing PCoy; their parachute course that only Paras do as apart of their basic training. There they'll focus on light infantry roles in cooperation with para drops, reflectsd by their final testing of Pcoy which mainly log runs and confidence courses. RM specialise on beach assaults, moutaineering and artic warfare: which explains why they have the longest training in NATO. Their final 'Commando tests' are focused on endurance runs eg the 30 miler. The only real difference is their inmate role, paras are airborne marines are seaborne. Nonetheless theyre both our elite regiments and like to give eachother shit about it

>>33730859
What is confusing you?

>>33730851
I can stop drinking for months at a time easily and have done as recently as last year, no urge to drink either.

As for my routine I follow a typical bodybuilding bodaypart split and use roids sorry to say, which I guess I would have to stop before entry.

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>>33730567

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>>33730711

>>33730920
Start now and you might make it, you may be one of the oldest recruits there though if you choose Infantry and they will not go easy on you because of your age.

>>33730948
Do you mean for Army infantry or Royal Marines?

>>33730960
Both.

>>33730964
Fuck I never knew 24 was so old, will I stand out that much?

>>33730964
Also it depends on what route your going down, i believe the average entry for an officer is around 24ish. But for bog standard squaddie its 18-21

>>33730979
People usually join the military when they're 18-19. Average army age is roughly 23-24. People have joined the army in their thirties, so you're fine.

>>33730921
lel

>>33731151

It honestly confuses me why the working parts have been taken out, but not the gas parts.

I mean if you're going to do the whole exploded diagram style thing it would make sense to, no?

>>33728705
>Taking the piss out of the troop of Marines who surrendered straight away after the Argentinians invaded the Islands.
someone doesnt know his own countries history

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>>33731186

Someone doesn't know the banter.

>>33730062
You're ready for SAS, they don't even train anymore

>>33731174
Its a field strip, sod fiddling round with the gas parts unless you have to.

>>33731239

Not gonna lie, first (and often only, unless sand) thing I clean in the field are the gas parts.

Not for any lack of function, I just know how much of a cunt it is to get the damn things clean if you let it build up.

Fuck Armourers.

>>33731293

>guy in the background fails to forward assist.

>>33731322
Yeah he does but he also closes the dust cover, that gif never fails to trigger my autism.

>>33731293
Why does one guy karate chop his and the other guy pushes it down? And what exactly is "it"?

>>33731349
The karate chop forward assists the cocking handle, the guy behind him just closes the dust cover.

>>33731349

The "karate chop" is the forward assist - occasionally the bolt can fail to engage in battery so you smash it in, essentially. Done whenever you ready the weapon, and as a stoppage drill.

The other guy doesn't 'push' anything down, as >>33731339 says he's closing the dust cover. Which isn't part of the 'Ready' drill.

Guy in front does it correctly, guy behind is a moron who didn't listen in Phase 1.

Fucking Engineers.

>>33731363
So the guy behinds rifle wont actually fire?

>>33731376
It should fire fine, it is done as a precaution, Belts and braces.

>>33731376
>>33731388
It's like the FA on m16s, its fucking useless.

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>>33731480

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/k/ shits on the QE class but none can deny it is an upgrade to what they had before.

>>33731548

They'll be two of the best carriers in the world, second only to what the USN has, and on a much, much, much smaller budget.

Not bad.

>>33731610
I am glad at least one of out allies is pulling their weight, the French have the CdG but that is ancient and they have no plans to replace it.

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>>33731480

Looks comfy.

>>33731480
Is Fort George the one you can visit? I've been to one of them but I honestly cannot remember which, I was quite young at the time.

>>33731630

French have a strange relationship with their Navy, culturally speaking.

I have heard they are considering buying a frenchified QE class to replace CDG though - the version with the cat and all the instructions written in French.

>>33731666
Never mind, it was indeed Fort George.

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>>33731680

Fell through, French Navy couldn't afford a replacement or second carrier and dropped out the program.

>>33731641

UK has some very comfy defence buildings.

>>33730062
kek, I love your honesty, Tommy.

>>33731828
why he wearing that hat?

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>>33732361

Kit swapping is a very regular thing.

>Join the TA they said
>Two years later I have a fucked back, damaged hip, permanent ear damage, smoke, have been to hospital for alcohol poisoning twice and have done horrific things to fat women throughout Scotland

Don't fall for the reservist jew /k/omrades

US Navyfag Petty Officer here. What does "furcoat and no trousers" mean? Heard it on your comms before?

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>>33732590

Means someone who acts the part and looks the part but is actually pretty shite at their job.

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>>33729308
That moment when the Feds run out of gas so they have to land on your golf course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFPV16f182w

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best rifle coming through

>>33732518

The fat women of Scotland thank you for your service.

>>33729308
...Is that one guy dressed in a kilt?

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>>33730921
>mfw I end up either in gurkhas or paras

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Hard not to love Jackals. Ridiculously good off road ability.

It's like the WW2 jeep raids taken to a modern extreme, old habits die hard for the Brits it seems.

>>33730889
Why did the Paras end up conducting an amphibious landing in the Falklands

>>33731680
>I have heard they are considering buying a frenchified QE class to replace CDG though - the version with the cat and all the instructions written in French.

Entire affair is comical. The French argued for design modifications to the core design which they got and then they never bought the damn thing!

>>33732387
Or theft.

I was told mutual larceny with the Danes was so prevalent you ended up stealing your own gear back by accident

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>>33738047
>old habits die hard for the Brits it seems.

bayonet intensifies

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>>33738047

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>>33730616
Heard the modules were a meme though.

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>>33728614
Best sniper.

>>33729308
When your mates try to out do you in buying tanks so you rock up in an F35 to drink tea at the golf course.

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Thoughts on new kit?

>>33740375

Helmet: Decent, comfy, light.

Armour: Heavy as fuck, honestly don't find it as comfy as Osprey. Weight distribution system is a gimmick.

Looks cool, though.

>>33728705
>Taking the piss out of the troop of Marines who surrendered straight away after the Argentinians invaded the Islands.
spoken like a true pongo cunt

>>33728950
whats that structure in the middle of the deck?

>>33740476
Baby booty cannot take the banter?

>>33740097
That's not a sniper, that's a rifle.

>>33730921
I don't know my IQ...

>>33734567
Try clearing a house with it.

>>33740535
MP

>>33740703
British MP's actually have an education requirement unlike many other Corps.

>>33740510
>tells a shit dit
>IT'S JUST BANTER M8

>>33728705
I can respect this post.

>>33740710
>actually have an education requirement unlike many other Corps.

Only because they're the only ones who feel the need to check you can tie your shoelaces

>>33740476
Spoken like someone who isn't in the military.

Fuck off you armchair general. Take the banter or fuck right off

>>33740524
ccf fag detected

>>33730921
Where does Army Intelligence Corps fit into this?

>>33740891
Signals with shit drills