>Create a new gun and cartridge to BTFO the kraut guns. >Krauts

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>>33726848
Belgium wouldnt let the Germans make their own FALs, they had to settle with the G3. Theyve never let that one go.

>>33726848
>OP watches Ahoy's new video
>makes a thread about it on /k/

>>33726866
>what is the G1

>>33726967
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>33726848
>Implying that 2-caliber CTSAS won't make this all a moot point

>>33727093
Produced by Belgium, and would not give the DDR a license.

>>33727093
A FN Herstal FAL that was made in their factory and was imported in to the Germans. Key word in that post: Make their own, as in have the rights to produce it inside Germany. The G1 was produced in Belgium, and the Germans were never given the rights to produce it in Germany, as the original post has explained. Work on that reading comprehension.

>>33726967
I kinda wish his videos weren't just "babby can read a wikipedia article" and more about various depictions of the weapons in games. Then again, that might be kinda boring.

>>33726967
His narration is better than just reading to be honest.

>>33726967
Right? And he forgot the part about the MP7 being the reason Germany vetoed the P90.
Buy German Hire German

>>33726967
I watched his video. Not sure if Ian or some random /k/ommando told me this, but wasn't 5.7 and the P90 designed for the purpose of the west being able to supply arms to European militiamen that would be easy to use for someone with little training and could pierce soviet body armor?

>>33729860

The MP7 never really went anywhere either.

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>>33726848
They're salty about the 5.7 round winning out over their 4.6 round when NATO needed a new PDW caliber. HK's precious little MP7 was roflstomped by Fabrique Nationale's P90.

>>33729871
Never heard of anything of the sort. I also got handful of military firearm books on my shelf, and I can't recall them mentioning anything about it either.

AFAIK, P90 was designed to be a compact, easy to control and accurate PDW for professionals.

>>33729912
Oh. Also quick side note: I heard that the Heckler & Koch VP70 was made for a similar reason.

>>33726848
Because the P90 is only good in Stargate

>>33729903
The fact that they actually produced a pistol for their PDW cartridge helped a lot.

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>>33730145
Don't think that mattered much.

>>33730374
There were prototypes, but the bullet was shit out of a pistol-length barrel, so it never made it to production.

>>33730420
You know what the weird thing is

The SMG in Half life 2 is an MP7, and it's chambered in 4.6mm

It also inexplicably has a grenade launcher despite one not being visible on it.

??? Valve?

The p90 is they type of gun I just want to hug and hold at all times.

>>33730453
You don't have to care about accuracy in firearms when you can use $100 bills as cumrags

>>33730453
woah man, chill with the antique /k/ memes from before the word meme was a thing

>>33726848

PDWs were the hottest, dankest meme back then and FN and HK were competing over who would get all the contracts before everyone woke the fuck up and realized they were being sold a solution in search of a problem.
HK's attempt ended up falling short of the FN competition, so Germans cockblocked FN in return and PDWs never really took off. Some agencies ended up buying them, but they tended to catch dust in the armories because training was getting expensive and the terminal performance was unconvincing. Then SBRs killed them entirely.

>>33730910
But, the Uzi full size was the weapon of choice back before even then, for the longest time.

>>33730420
I know, but I still don't think that mattered much. The PDW itself falling out of favor was a much larger factor. Then things like 6.5cbj (granted its too late to matter)come along so FN and HK probably think to themselves "well shit"

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>>33730663
>before everyone woke the fuck up and realized they were being sold a solution in search of a problem.


Not really, PDWs are perfect for non front line troops who need something better than a handgun but not as big as a rifle.

>>33730006
> Hey guys I'm no guns

>>33729871
No, they did have specific NATO rounds designed for the P90 for specific purposes, one was an AP round that was particularly wicked. The media loved it, and so did Hollywood.

>>33731246
>6.5 cbj
There's literally no reason for it to exist. If you're just going to sabot a 2mm projectile anyway, why not a slightly larger sabot and use the standard 9mm? That way you don't need to change all of your equipment.