Who are the best-designed scifi/ futuristic soldiers, /k/? Both

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>>33684529
ODST are not practical. At all.
Real fucking neat, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCCjXaCAds

>>33684529
Colonial marines. The original sci fi operators

>>33684540

What makes ODSTs impractical? I've usually seen them held in high regard.

>>33684553

Acceptable choice.

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Imperial guardsmen

>>33684573
>What makes ODSTs impractical?
Dropping in individual pods into the middle of battle with no organic support or logistics, just begging to be either shot down or barraged on the ground with artillery.
Combat itself in Halo is impractical and dumb.

>>33684575
>DKK
I'm more of a Cadia man, but Kreigers are cool too.

>>33684582

Oh, I thought you meant from an armour design standpoint.

Yeah, drop pods are a concept that falls apart when you start applying critical thinking to them.

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>>33684529
Republic Commandos
>>33684582
I think I need one of the more recent novels the Elites refer to ODSTs as showing up to the battlefield in their own coffins.

>>33684582

You literally just described paratroopers. Not impractical, just not always tactically sound.

>>33684540
Can't wait for Blame!

>>33684611
>You literally just described paratroopers.
No I didn't, numbnuts.

>>33684618
you kinda did man. the difference is volume and dispersion.

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>>33684628
>you kinda did man.
No.
>the difference is volume and dispersion.
And that ODST do not have parachutes and aren't paratroopers and paras have organic support and logistics and do not drop directly into battle and the two are nothing alike. What I described is nowhere close to actual paratroopers.

>>33684646
To be fair the ODSTs werent dropped straight into the thick of battle. The games and books like to portray it that way but really, any force with half a brain wouldn't drop heavily trained troops with state of the art weapons and armor right in the middle of an enemy base. Typically ODSTs would be dropped into much safer areas where they will regroup and attack.
It's just more cinematic to show troopers fall out of the sky right into the thick of combat, but that's just PR and complete suicide if carried out.
Shit in Cole Protocol they dropped the Spartans and ODSTs away from combat so they didn't get their asses handed to them on impact.

>>33684705
So why do they use singular drop pods? Do they have any organic support in the books? Mortars? Heavy weapons? Why are there no drones in Halo?

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>>33684529
Stormtroopers, star wars. White plastic armor For The Win.

I liked the Crysis suits, like a Singularity you could wear.

>>33684804
In Halo Legends The Babysitter they were used as a recon/sniper team.
In Halo 3 ODST you are dropped as a SF recon squad, as part of a battalion drop with frigate cover.
In Halo 2 you drop as shock troops with In Amber Clad in support.

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I really like how the UNSC soldiers look in Halo 2's remaster. The ODSTs are definitely up there, as well.

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>>33684529
I really love the Titanfall 2 Pilots.

>>33684646
The singular drop pod thing is because they get dropped from orbit and I guess for some reason the UNSC doesn't have the tech to make drop pods for more than one person.

Then again this would create a larger target and result in more dead ODSTs if it was hit.

Like this anon said >>33684705
ODSTs aren't used in the lore the same way you see them used in the games mostly for dramatic effect. Same with their support. Thing is the games leave out much of the UNSCs and Covenant equipment just because of limitations.

You also have to take into account what the UNSC military was more before the Covenant showed up, which was fighting insurrectionists. ODSTs are perfect for fighting rebels because you can stealthily (rebs can't detect them especially at night) insert SF anywhere on a planet for COIN shit.

>>33684804
I can't remember if the UNSC has drones in the books or not

>>33684582
The drop pods are meant to evade AA so the ODSTs can be inserted to take key positions to allow ground troop transports to land safely. They're able to carry their own kit and packs in the pods along with weapons, but even so the whole concept is a bit of a romanticism, kind of like how we still depict starfighters as having dogfighting capabilities when in reality single-man craft would be worthless compared to many drones at that point in the future.

>>33684867
>In Halo 2 you drop as shock troops with In Amber Clad in support.
And to add onto this, they dropped with the best ayylien killer in the world, you could've dropped them right on top of the enemy and the outcome would have been the same.

>>33684613
The re masters of the Manga are worth every penny. Hell, I got my Mom hooked on it.

>they killed Rookie off in a book
>died like a complete bitch
>The rest of the ODST characters got turned into Spartans

Good thing I dropped Halo after Reach

>>33685500
How did Rookie dead?

>>33685521
held hostage by insurrectionists and shot in the head

the title of the book in question is Halo: New Blood

>>33685358

They have one in Contact Harvest that senses out chemicals to detect explosives/ IEDs used by rebels.

Also the snipers in Halo Wars 2 have a drone that detects active camo units.

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>>33685543

>>33685521

He gets captured by a no-name rebel captain and executed.

The guy who survived in a city full of mini-kongs for a full night and escaped a glassing goes down on his knees so they could write him out of the story.

>>33685358
There is that ship with the camera on it that crashes in ODST, when you find the part i think you become Dutch in the zoo level? That craft may be unmanned?

>>33685762

The F-99 Wombat is indeed a UAV.

They were the ones sitting on those Longshore aircraft carriers too

https://www.halopedia.org/F-99_Wombat

>>33684582
You are answering the question wrong.
>What makes ODSTs impractical?
In the context of this thread, the fact that they are a shitty rendition of the Mobile Infantry from Starship Troopers (book, not movie shit).

They are also a shit rendition of the same concept from a John Steakley book called Armor.

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>>33684529
Terran republic armor from planetside 2 seems most practical when it comes to sci-fi stuff and the armor does come in painted camo variants

>>33684582
You telling me you can shoot down 100 or so pods coming in at terminal velocity and zipping around like shitty bees?

You might be able to get a few of them but the casualties would be far less than having one or two crafts carrying the same number of troopers getting shot down.

>>33684804
Evading AA. By throw out enough pods it's impossible to destroy more than a fraction of them. Drop pods also don't need to return so they can come in faster than a drop ship.

>>33684804

Singular drop pods are used because apparently their failure rate is fairly high, and burn-up in entry or hard landings are common.

There are some pod types in lore that carry supplies and heavier equipment that would be dropped along with them.

I don't think they were afforded a whole lot in the way of support, but could be assisted with orbital strikes. The entire point of ODSTs seems to be to clear the way for follow-on units in environments where more conventional landings would be impossible.

>>33684540
kill yourself
odst is more pratical than your shitty anime garbage.
those your character have enough fucking belts?

>>33686248
TR Master race. The Vanu are fucking kidding themselves.

>>33686189
ODSTs literally only borrow the concept of the Drop Pods from Starship Troopers. The general design principles of Spartans, especially in MJOLNIR MKV, is somewhat inspired by the Japanese Starship Troopers OVA though

>>33684804
Also, ODST Drop Pods are used to drop ONTO Covenant ships in low orbit. At least, that was the plan in Halo 3 ODST, until Buck's team got conscripted by ONI to serve as Dare's squad

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>>33686248
>>33686510

>TR and VS thinking they're worth anything
>Not fighting for the best faction

Live free in the NC, fags

>>33686627
freedom decays onto decadence, TR for life

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>>33686627
Keep telling yourself that.

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>>33686510
I haven't played my TR alt in a while now. I'll play her tonight.

>>33686248
gtfo space commie

>>33686767
commie? socialists. National Socialists

>>33686248
"THAT'LL MAKE THEM THINK TWICE"
God damn I love my space USSR

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>>33684529
might look cool but it seems quite heavy with the materials we know today I bet.

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>>33684606
>Republic Commandos
Oh why no one will remake it, but in warhammer40k this time =/

>>33686189
>shit rendition of 15-20 foot powered armor suits with nukes, jetpacks, and heavy weapons
>unpowered medium armor with no real heavy weapons to speak of save maybe a missile launcher if the squad is real lucky

>>33686779
>>33686767
That implies there is wealth redistribution or the non existence of private property. Last I checked, the faction let you do as you will if you didn't break any laws, the way capitalism should be.

Did we forget to mention that were the one faction that uses normal guns? Nothing beats bullets and rockets.

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>>33686248
too bad they decied to fuck up the looks of it and charge money for minor improvements along with stupid "camos" that fucked the game..

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>>33684529

>>33686964
Damn, those guys look sweet, what game are they from?

>>33685500
>killed him off
Wasn't one of the other ODSTs a traitor or some bullshit like that?

The series has gone to shit, even the books are bad now.

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>>33686627
>>33686767
>Fighting for a plutocracy

>>33687036
Killzone, Killzone 2 to be exact

>>33686627
is nowhere safe from nc shitposters? Dont you have anything better to do like killing your own teammates?

>>33687115
lol they think they are fighting for freedom

>>33686808
Found the kid who was too poor to have a good PC. Jedi Knight 2 was the much better game.

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>>33684588
>>33684575
>not being exo-prussian marine insanity
"volley" fire (because i assume they practice it, well, reasonably) makes perfect sense against giant chaos monsters

>>33685571
Why are they standig next to/sitting in a Swedish Army Volvo with something that looks like Amsterdam in the background?

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Obligatory post.

>>33686793
I believe its made of some kind of titanium alloy.

>>33684582
Random angular blocks that exist for no reason beyond decoration and looking cool. The chest area has great big gaping gaps in coverage.

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>>33684529
>Control F
>Kerberos Panzer cop
>0 results
>dissapoint.jpg

>>33687299
didnt want to be gay by posting it
(its really anime proportions tho)

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>>33685583
Always thought that was bullshit how he went out. Rookie was too good for that death man.

>>33687037
I think Mickey bailed to become an Insurrectionist like his parents once Rookie died.
Dutch pulled an "Im too old for this shit" and retires while Butch and Romeo become Spartans.

>>33684611
You've described why their haven't been combat jumps onto seriously contested areas since Dien Bien Phu

>>33687258
This. Mojave operators are the best.

>>33684529
Hammer's Slammers

>>33687299
>>33687490

You are gentlemen and scholars.

Also,

>tfw most of the Kerberos stuff is untranslated unobtanium

>>33687267
>titanium
Oh so heavy as shit

>>33687356
Not everyone gets a heroic death, not even heros.

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>>33687699
Yup, so ODST's have to go through a lot of PT just to carry the armor

Also
>Neill Blomkamp worked on this Halo skit
>Went to create District 9
>Could've had a full fledged Halo movie w/ ODST and marine aesthetic
fug

>>33685379
>depicting space combat at all
>surface to orbit missiles will make all space combat obsolete.

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>>33684529

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IMC in Titanfall 2 have some breddy gud A E S T H E T I C S

>>33687699
The early ODST armor was made of tungsten plated titanium-50 but later was made of a combination of titanium and a ceramic composite.

>>33687722
>that grav hammer

>>33687268
Ceramic plate does bullshit all against plasma weaponry my dude. ODST gear is to protect from incidental damage (explosions, etc) mainly on the limbs where fragments can destroy a soldier's ability to fight. If you get hit center mass with explosive fragments you're fucked anyways so might as well lighten the load.

It's not a perfect design obviously but its leagues better than most scifi schlock

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Modern armor systems need to do the following
>1. Improve Mobility
>2. Improve Protection without sacrificing #1
>3. As a result of #2 it needs to be lighter weight
>4. As a result of #3 this means incorporating new materials
>5. The system must offer enhancements to the operator beyond the current standard including: integrated electronic hearing protection, HUD's, NV, assisted targeting.

No system I can think of has done all this without copping out to "Muh super-soldier" or "Muh speshal spess muhrines"

So basically what we need is a low power draw/hyrdaulic or unpowered exoskeleton, and NVGs with HUDs that enhance as opposed to obscure vision and are adaptable to all lighting conditions while obscuring flash to protect the operator like those filters on ACOGs coupled with some next generation of Materials Science plates/fabric weaves/gel layers that can absorb not only fragmentation but the concussive force of blasts. An exoskeleton could even save limbs from breaking/deforming if dampers are properly used

>>33687758
Wouldn't that be hundreds of pounds

>>33687747
>Has faceplate
>Puts it on his head

When will this meme die?

>>33684529
Always liked the power armour in Fallout.

>>33687787
Armor in the Halo universe both on ships and soldiers is often plated with tungsten to take the bulk of the heat from plasma weapons.

>>33687747
Must've kicked that guy in the face over 1000 times in the campaign by now

>>33685074
Same, in a nearly gay way

>>33687789
Points 1 and 2 are at their core contradictory; if you had a system that could feasibly hold more armor while also increasing the speed of the wearer without being ridiculously overbudget, there'd be better uses for it than on a battlefield.
Realistically you're going to either increase weight limit or increase speed. One requires a shitload of training, one does not.
Now I highly doubt we'll be sticking armor on exoskeletons, but the ability to carry more weight without fatiguing the soldier is worth looking into. Plus the possibility of man-portable servo stabilized weapons. But either way we're decades off from seeing that technology developed and generations from it becoming doctrine-standard.

>>33687809
Well it is 500 years in the future, im sure they developed much lighter and stronger ceramics by then.

But even when they used titanium, the armor plates are only on the chest, shoulders, and legs so i dont think it would be much heavier than a couple Lv 3 plates.

>>33687730
>t. retard

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>tfw you'll never climb into your personal metal power suit and storm anchorage tearing Chinese limb from limb because you're basically invincible while a giant metal robot screaming about democracy throws nukes like footballs at enemy artillery and mortars, further solidifying your God complex, causing you to completely ditch your weapon in favor of simply smashing everybody with your massive metal fists, until you win and get to go home, but get called into a meeting with the president and told you'll be part of the select few soldiers to reside on an oil rig with the government during the launch of all US nukes, which is certain to cause the whole MAD thing and destroy everyone, but it's worth it because fuck the Commies, we can rebuild and they can't. Then you'll lead your own squad of elite killers on raids and scouting through the wasteland, rebuilding the US and getting rid of mutated, disgusting abominations with your hands just like the good old days.

Just kill me now, do it, I can't stand the utter lack of aesthetic psychopathy and decimation of communists and inferior mutated "humans".

>>33684540
>hey mane
>u got any more of dem belts?
>>33684575
I'd rather be Tallarn desert raider, but good choice

>>33687787
There's more than enough instances in the books that ODST armor is described as much better at defeating all projectile threats than any other armor issued through the UNSC(save MJOLNIR). Most small arms plasma weapons were described to just leave black marks and some melting on the outer plates.

>>33688027
I always thought the Crimson Dragoons were kinda cool, though.

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>>33684529

Why colonial space marines of course

They can take off and nuke it from orbit.

>>33687816
>gonna kick down milita doors
>slide down face plate
>cleanse area of militia scum
>put faceplate back up

Seems pretty rational

>>33688092
>t.commie

Going semi-invisible does not prevent dismemberment.

>>33687700
You're right really. I guess it was the writers showing just how shitty the war is despite having all these advantages over innies. Even with all the tech, they're not invincible.

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I've always liked the "near future" aesthetic of Ghost Recon, especially in Future Soldier.

>>33688689
That's just a modern soldier with a blackberry on his arm and some fancy sunglasses.

>>33687816
Better breathing and visibility with it up. Put it down in high risk like door breaching.
Same logic as medieval helmets with visors, most of the time they had it up.

>>33688734
Modern soldiers have active camouflage?

>>33687722
Can we still fucking dream of a halo movie? I feel like if anyone was to work on halo movies Blomkamp is the man for the job from watching a lot of his other movies and obviously the attached file.
I mean Ridley Scott did a good job with Forward Unto Dawn. Maybe Scott or Blomkamp.
I think they'd be the ones that wouldn't fuck up and do a good job.

>>33688773
>Can we still fucking dream of a halo movie?

I don't want one now that shit43 is in charge of the series. Their writing is absolute garbage and every piece of Halo media that comes out gets their filthy mitts on them. See the live action shows like FUD and Nightfall, they were godawful.

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Nanosuit seems to be best option...
> literally second skin
> enhanced movement and strenght
> Active camouflage
> HUD
> You can literally wear carrier over it and while at it, you can slap extra pads and protection over it since movement is not an issue

>>33688797
As much as it hurts to say...

Fucking this.

Games are shit. Books are shit. It's all shit now.

>>33688884
So you're just a floating chestrig/platecarrier?

>>33688959
Nanosuits works the same as Ghost Recon active camouflage does... it camouflages entire operator including weapons and even platecarriers

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>>33688380
being a giant, comically-proportioned metal retard is not any better
(the classics portrayed Power Armor the best, just a big metal suit, not a subura profiled and arguably not even useful (there's a million of them in Fo4)

pic related: what a powered armor logically looks like

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>>33688884
I fucking love the Nanosuits, and the games in general. Most people shit on the sequels, but I dig me some aliens and transhumanism.

Shame Crytek is shitting the bed, would have liked a sequel or interquel.

>Crysis 3 file implying Nomad is still alive
>being chased by a CELL Nanosuit Operator named Silverback
>we will never get that as a game

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>>33685074
That's a Militia Rifle Pilot from TF1
IMC pilots were more ascetic imo

>>33688797
>>33688928
OH LOOK. The edgy contrarians from /v/ are here to hate everything again

>>33689000
The concept of the suit itself is awesome... although North Korea having nanosuits in the first game is fuckin' retarded

>>33689008
>just fuck my peripheral vision up senpai

>>33689019
>I don't like thing
>"e-edgy! c-contrarian!"

Shut the fuck up. If anything, normalfags embrace the new Halo and suck 343's cock. Hardly contrarian.

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Trump this
protip: You can't

>>33689041
>DURRRRRR
>stuff is better because it is old
>new stuff is shit
>normal fags durrrrrr
Careful with that edge kiddo

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USIF 8TH ARMORED DIVISION!

>>33689041
>complains about sucking 343 cock
>clearly willing to take loads of Bungie cock
That is a pathetic shitpost
Bait/10

>>33688988
Well then. that's pretty dope.

>>33689069
>edge edge edge le edge XD
>you don't like new thing so therefore you're just a contrarian HIPSTER

Holy fucking buzzwords, Batman. Also nice assumptions. I don't prefer the old games because they're old, I like them because they're objectively better than what 343 shits out.

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>>33689034
>>33689008
Ultimate ascetic pilot coming thru

>>33689098
>all this projecting
No you are just like every other /v/irgin on this site.
Constantly whining about how the new stuff is bad and how the old stuff was better.
Yes you are an edgy contrarian hipster

>>33684582
>Dropping in individual pods into the middle of battle with no organic support or logistics, just begging to be either shot down or barraged on the ground with artillery.
The whole point is that a group of individual drops is less risky than a single group transport getting dropped.

Shoot down an ODST pod? One dead ODST.
Shoot down a troop transport? 12 + dead.

>>33689083
>every opinion I don't like is bait

343 fans, everyone

>>33689112
Do you even know what projecting means? Holy shit, you are retarded. Your entire complaint with me is just a chain of buzzwords. Go back to /v/ and shitpost with the rest of the morons there.

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>>33689072

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>>33689107

IMC a shit

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>>33689131
Militia scum

>>33688773
I'd rather see one based on one Halo's inspirations, Iain M. Banks' Culture series.

>>33688884
Yeah, better not wear it for more than a day though. Or get injured while wearing it. We all know what happens afterward will make you wish you just wore a plate carrier.

>>33689083
What's the issue with liking something more from a different developer? Surely there are different manufactures of a certain firearm that were great and then were made by a different manufacturer and was shit? Or via versa.

Regardless. There has been a clear decline in the quality of content since 343 took over the show. Lore, games, books. Their making games for a whole new generation and we all know what kind of shit they like. That's not to say that it couldn't change with the right people with new ideas coming in and stirring the pot.

>>33688884

Yeah except you cant take if off

How does this stuff dissipate heat?

>>33689153
Culture is one of several series that Halo directly copied/homaged, including Starship Troopers, Aliens, and Armor

>>33689206
Aliens was so influential people watching it today say it's generic.

>>33688734
Its actually essentially what Land Warrior would have looked like if it went all the way through development, and what you see is the 5th generation. What isnt shown in full detail is they're all wearing "small computers bigger thn a cell phone, but smallet than a laptop on the backs of their vests that does all the heavy lifting for info networking and intel gathering.

They're basically walking F-35s with prototype active camoflage

>>33686964
The helghast will forever have a special place in my heart
Love their design

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Can someone explain to me what is exactly so "nonfunctional" about this design? It seems fine to me.

>>33689241
It's fuckhuge?

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HELLJUMPER HELLJUMPER WHERE YOU BEEN?
FEET FIRST INTO HELL AND BACK AGAIN
WHEN I DIE PLEASE BURY ME DEEP
LEAVE MY MA5 DOWN BY MY FEET

>>33689019
>people hating 343i are contrarians
this is what historical revisionism looks like. People were screaming in rage the day Halo 4 released

>>33684582
>impractical and dumb.
What...do you want to live forever?

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>>33688884
Goddamn, Id love to have a nanosuit even with the small issue of it consuming my body.

>>33689241
well for one, the users have to be bioaugmented to even use them. also >>33689248

>>33688988
Technically, the active camoflage in ghost recon didnt work like that all the way.

The system does affect clothing and equipment, but not all the way. If you go back and play future soldier, go to the missions where Kozak has his sleeves rolled, and you can still see his forearms and hands, and the light emited from the Cross-Com display, as well as any gaps not covered by gear.

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>>33688884

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If there's one thing Fallout 4 got right it's power armor.

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>>33685571

>>33687722 checked
Where is this from, looks bretty cool.

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Though I don't actually know how much of it is powered or just his freaky Liefield-tier proportions.

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>>33689124
Here you go fellow Space American

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This is one of my favorite designs, there's pretty much nothing I have any issues with.

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>>33689426
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxdvGO1oOF0

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>>33689488

>>33689594
that pistol mount on the shield is backasswards.

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>>33684529
>ctrl+f
>2142
>0 Results

I'm very dissapointed desu

>>33689206
Don't forget Ringworld

>>33689401
>stormtroopers
>ever doing anything right or having any aesthetic
I really wish Abrams would come out with some kind of supplementary material making the Empire and First Order look not shit

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>>33689689
Such a great game

>>33686466
Easily triggered autists like yourself are pathetic.

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I made this Anons care to critique? It's for a personal science-[spoiler]fantasy[/spoiler] project.

The faceplate can come off and has a 40mm CBRN filter on the side.

Also I know the helmet should be bigger

>>33689241

Try lifting your arms.

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>>33686248
TR fo lyf nugga

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>>33689802

>>33687787

Ceramics seem to be very resistant against both heat and kinetic damage. It's probably why they've been employed in heat shielding for space craft re-entry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9Yax8UNoM

These are the LI-900 thermal tiles used in the old space shuttle.

Now even if a metal plate could stop a shot from covenant plasma weapon, the plate would still get so hot it would fry anything touching it, including my skin and set me on fire. With ceramic material similar to the LI-900 on front, i might survive without receiving massive 3rd degree burns.

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Not exactly military, but I always liked the Dead Space suits.
Slick helmet design, chest mounted computer, holographic projection system, and zero-G thrusters.
And the game implies that the suits are 3D printed onto you.

>>33689650
Anon please, I didn't come to /k/ to jerkoff.

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>>33689241

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>>33689019
Name one, just one fucking thing that any of the 343 halos do better than its predecessors.
Just one, anon.

>>33690079
>better
It's subjective though
I'll admit that bungie's halo and 343's halo are different, but they got their own charms

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>>33689150
eject yourself

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>>33690229
woops. meant for the terrorist >>33689131

>>33690079
>343 is better at making Halo more like CoD
checkmate Bungiefags

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>>33689594
What's that on his back? A sword?

>>33687596
>>tfw most of the Kerberos stuff is untranslated unobtanium

Tfw I saw a DVD of it at the local Dollar General in Podunk, Indiana.

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>>33689300
DON'T CRY FOR ME, DON'T SHED NO TEAR!
JUST PACK MY BOX WITH PT GEAR!

>>33689594
What I wouldn't give...

>>33684582

It's just paratroopers on crack. Drop-pod supplies and it's the same thing.

>>33689019

But they do suck. 343 made Spartans into fuckin Power Rangers.

And the lore is fubard'd beyond all recognition.

>>33690432
It might be sucks for some, but i think it's a logical progress from the events estabilished after 3
Do you really want the franchise to keep following the central theme and have humanity fighting a losing battle forever? It'll get boring after a while

>>33688773

There was going to be one but they made district 9 instead. It was a good movie but a halo movie with district 9 CGI would have detonated my penis.

>>33689927

I read somewhere that even rear misses from covenant plasma bolts would cause 3rd degree burns to bare skin.

>>33690501
dude did you even fucking follow the story of the new arc?
>Halo 4 - it's all about how human Chief is and how the death of Cortana affects him
>Halo 5: Gay Shit - Cortana's alive! and she's evil! Chief just wants to find her but doesn't speak at fucking all or do anything humanizing!

I liked 4 but 5 is absolute fucking trash and the advertising campaign they ran prior to release was completely misleading. only good thing was Kazuma's new score, which actually matched the original style pretty well. that doesn't make up for the fact that 343 completely gutted their universe with shitty writing.

>>33690369
is this arma?

>>33690079
Sprinting is a native function rather than an ability pick-up.

No Armor-lock

free expansions

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>>33690887
Yes, Look up operation Trebuchet for ArmA3

It started as another now defunct mod but it is essentially the same one

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This thread makes me want a HBO series like Band of Brother or Generation Kill, but in the year 2095 or something.

Honestly is there any grounded scifi moves or shows set in the future where:
A: we aren't fighting aliens, but yourselves.
AND
B: It doesn't heavily focus on mechs

[spoiler]I just want space ww3 ;_;[/spoiler]

>>33691174
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare's campaign actually does this pretty well. Although its more 200 years in the future than 70.

>>33689689
Those are some OK legs

>>33686627
But I prefer to shoot my enemies, not my teammates anon. Better Red than dead.

>>33687789
https://youtu.be/e5ZQd11z_3Q

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>>33687789
Fallout 4 Power Armor fits the bill, though by default it has a headlamp instead of NV.

It needs (Or rather, needed in all previous games) training to use however you don't need to be some kind of super soldier to use it.

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>>33691820
it almost seems like BS, but images like this pretty much confirm it as legitimate

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>>33684529
not the coolest looking, but still seem effective

>>33686964
Before I played killzone, the Helghast gave me the impression that the game was going to be more horror oriented. Not in the grotesque way, but the feeling that you're confronting an enemy that's always one step ahead of you, and no matter how well you hid, they'd be the guys to find you. I was kind of disappointed in the actual gameplay. Is there a game that resembles the feeling I'm looking for?

Still Helghast have some of the best armor designs I've ever seen in a game.

>>33687787
In the beginning of Contact Harvest, Johnson and his team are wearing heavier versions of ODST armor and the rebel SMGs and shit do basically fuck-all to them.

Might help against Covenant projectile weapons (Carbines and Needlers), and shrapnel.

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>>33692761
Yeah, too bad Johsnon pussied out and couldn't take out the innie, thus she snackbaring herself and half the restaurant with her.

Johnson was a mistake.

Also, how would you handle this situation?

Who was in the wrong here?

>>33689747
Judging by that edgelord faggotry it seems that your autism is just always on; no trigger needed.

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>>33689392

I mean they got the appearance right; but fueling it with disposable fusions cores is ass.

They should have just balanced it properly so its an alternative to normal armor, not inherently superior (it makes noise so you can't sneak, less mobility, slower running speed, etc.).

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>>33692619
Designers these days have this weird habit of never making human characters stronger than the player. If your fighting a being that is probably going to kick your ass it always has to be some sort of super-soldier/monster thing. Either that or they make you the underdog through narrative but the gameplay is just constantly stomping incompetent drones (lookin at you, CoD).

The best you could hope for would be more along the lines of suspense/stealth games. You're going to be hard pressed to find a Killzone-style FPS that doesn't have more traditional horror or elements. Doom and FEAR might be good options; a little more shooter-y but definitely not what I think you're looking for. Best bet is to look into the Splinter Cell franchise if your looking to get the heart rate up without having to fight something that came out of some hell portal or weird biological experimentation.


>>33689650
This nigga gets it. Also BF4 did pretty alright with the chinks.

>>33687734
I always gave marines/soldiers/ODSTs better weapons in the game because I tried to keep everyone alive. I'm a Spartan I can get the job done with a plasma pistol. Halo: Combat Evolved Plasma pistol anyway

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>>33692619
Try STALKER. I've had enemies flank the shit out of me or break off from a losing fight and come back to shoot me while I'm looting.

>>33693085
I second this. If you're looking for something a little more traditional the Metro and later Fallout games would be good.

>>33687747
>year of 2xxx with space robot magic
>still wearing UCP pants
When will this meme die.

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>>33693057
>Splinter Cell franchise
one of the best stealth armour

This thread made me check out some of the old Halo live action stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRMUYpH7bQk

>>33693085

All three of them are for sale for $10 right now on Steam.

Figure I'm going to get them.

Recommended mods?

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>>33685540
>>33685583
I could stand 343 for making terrible lore tacked on after halo 3, but the fucking retconning of the good shit from bungie kills my soul, including the awful portrayal of the rookie and the rest of that squad

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>>33693205

>>33693229
Chills, every damn time. The entire Halo 3 and ODST ad campaigns were fucking masterpieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX5Kh1f5ksY

>>33693284
I recommend you browse ModDB or check the STALKER general on /vg/, though recommending Call of Chernobyl is a given here.

>>33692166
The first video I saw about it was a little better, but I couldn't find it. Apparently sony also has something similar to this.

>>33693336

>Call of Chernoby.

Should I play it vanilla first?

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>>33684529
Misaka Sisters
from Toaru Majutsu no Index

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>>33684529
"Jacket" Infantry Operator/Pilots from "All You Need Is Kill"

The original novel cover and manga designs are much better than the Exoskeletal from the Hollywood adaptation " Edge of Tomorrow".

The Edge of Tomorrow version wasn't really armour, more of an exo-skeleton.

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>>33689150
Reminder that the Militia has always been better than the IMC and always will be

>>33684529

SG1 is a good contender, but it's kind of a cop out

>>33693038

4's fusion core system contradicts canon. Of all things the complete disregard for established lore in that game pisses me off the most.

>>33693057
>Best bet is to look into the Splinter Cell franchise
I played a few of them, and found that I had a shit ton of fun with Chaos theory, but not so much the other games

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>>33693750

As soon as I saw that they got rid of skills, I knew I wasn't going to buy it. Still haven't, no regrets.

I figured they'd dumb it down to the level of Fallout 3 and get rid of some of my favorite things from New Vegas like ammo crafting; but when I learned that skills and weapon condition were gone I lost all enthusiasm. A pity too, I'd been looking forward to it for years.

>>33684582
but their names are cool

>>33688998
>arguably not even useful

Classic lore said they could bounce tank shells desusenpai.

>>33692048
The training is because the idea was that it had some fucky haptic feedback, like that one old sci-fi book where the pressure you would exert to control the armor would be increased exponentially by the armor.

That way you could hold a dainty little teacup or punch a hole in an engine block depending on the situation.

Dudes need training so they don't crush their own gun in their hands the moment their asshole puckers a little.

I'm drunk I'm explaining this poorly.

I think in 3 or NV when you're getting PA training the trainer says a little something about that before it fades to black and you get the perk.

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Not human but the Cabal from Destiny have some killer fucking aesthetics

>>33684529
That looks clunky as fuck, imagine wearing that into actual battle then realizing you're a fucking idiot and don't need all that protection.

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Interstellar Marines

>>33684611

When has the last time the US has deploed paratroopers, pry tell? Drop pods would work better if they were a prelude to an orbital bombardment.

>>33693786
I feel the same. Its so depressing.

>>33693979
Is that game actually going anywhere or is it still all just a cruel dream?

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>>33693960

>>33686808
>Oh why no one will remake it, but in warhammer40k this time
My friend! How has this glorious news from Holy Tera not reached you yet!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MERJhTprNpw

>>33693979
that looks boring and generic.

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>>33684606
>Republic Commandos
Goddamn was that game good. Thankfully Delta Squad is still canon thanks to TCW

>>33688998
Logically power armour in and of itself is a flawed concept.

Doesn't mean being immune to small arms is any less fun, though.

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Best power armor in Scifi.

>>33688998
Also see
>>33689392

>>33693038
You are limited in sneaking with power armour, and sprinting costs fusion cores, which to a very minimal degree limits you.

It still is basically a direct upgrade though, but I'd rather it be completely badass than extremely underwhelming desu.

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>>33694313

>>33693750

I like how Bethesda themselves said that T45 ran (and burned through) Microfusion Cells in Fallout 3, and that power issue was a key reason why it never deployed.

Somehow Bethesda can't even stick to their own canon.

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>>33687132
>Jedi Knight 2 was the much better game.
Jedi Academy has the better multiplayer. But that game is essentially an expansion pack to JKII so . . . whatever.

>>33693322
I'm not a die hard Halo fan, but I have yet to see any game make a better promotional stunt (art piece?), than that diorama.

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>>33694316

I agree it should feel badass; but I think you can balance it by just making it play differently.

If you're wearing power armor you're a tank, you aren't sneaking up on anyone, you shouldn't be sprinting period and you're aren't going to be able to run away from much of anything, your mobility is going to be limited and maybe you're long range accuracy takes a bit of a hit since you aren't holding your gun with your bare hands; but you can take a shitload of damage and you've got a lot of physical strength.

That way you can have the experience of feeling like a badass shrugging off damage and wrecking enemies head on; but still have weaknesses that might get you killed where a sneakier or faster player wouldn't. And maybe, just maybe it might even encourage a different play style based on what and where you're fighting.

>>33686964
Call me a fag but I'll always love trench coats like that.

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I don't want to get into whether or not the movie was good or bad,
but I thought the new Stormtrooper designs were slick.

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>>33689650
>>33693057
just gonna leave this here.
Don't mind me...

>>33694393
I still can't get over the subtle symbolism of the shoretrooper armor.
>>33694382
You're a fag, but a fag with good taste.

>>33694382

You're a fag.
But I wholeheartedly agree

>>33694425

Please explain the symbolism

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No glorious Mandalorains?

To bad both Jango and Boba died shitty deaths. Would have loved to seen more mandos beating Jedi/Sith to death. But their armor is probably the only fantasy armor I'd wear.

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Dead Space had some sexy as fuck armor designs.

Since this thread is specifically about soldiers, I'm posting the Advanced Soldier RiG, but I'd personally take an Engineering one any day of the week.

>>33691174
The Colony

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>tfw you like the starting armor and or enemy armor more than the advanced sets in a game
>tfw you have to pick stats over A E S T H E T I C S

>>33694425
>>33694436
Yeah can you clarify that?
Is it something stupid like: They made every 1 in 5 stormtrooper a brown shoretrooper to show diversity in the empire?

>>33694478
Such a good game, love the setting and the general aesthetic. Sad about the direction DS 3 took and the fact DS 4 seems unlikely to happen though.

>>33694436
The SA of pre-WW2 Nazi Germany.

The brown shirts. Basically the party's internal muscle before Himmler (SS boss) back stabbed Rhone (SA boss) with fake evidence making Hitler kill Rhone & disband the SA.

>>33684804
Even in the games they show this. What do you think those green weapon pods with the red light from halo 3 are?

>>33694438
mandalorians are probably the only cool thing in star wars

even moreso now that every swinging dick has a lightsaber

>>33692960

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>>33689650
My man

>>33694509
I liked the second tier of armor.

Shame how absurd the third tier looked though.

>>33694525
I'm not seeing it. The Shadow Troopers are nothing new, they existed alongside the regular storm troopers before the Empire ever formed. That or I'm missing some major info regarding the new starwars movies.

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Sure the helmets look silly but they seem like they provide good protection

>>33694514
I liked 3, it by far had the best aesthetic in my opinion.
The only real problem i had was the "im getting tired of this shit" attitude Issac had which just stripped almost all the tension from the atmosphere.

>>33694573
>I liked 3
Too much action, not enough horror. Plus moving to open plains instead of claustrophobic areas made it less stressful. Would have liked more focus on deep space though, that was what really made it unique to me.

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>>33694514
>pic related
Designs inspired by Roadside Picnic, the book that the Stalker series is based off.

>>33694514
>>33694573
>>33694583
Resident Evil 6 flopped for the same reasons as DS3, but they turned it around for 7.
I'm just hoping EA sees that, and pushes for a sequel/reboot that goes back to survival horror heavy gameplay.

>>33686964
I've always liked the Helghast simply because they are modernised Kerberos (in aesthetics)

>>33694619

Alien Isolation also got good praise and sold 2 mil copies, so it would be cool.

i just want good scifi games, halo and mass effect have both gone shit now

>>33694619
>Resident Evil 6 flopped for the same reasons as DS3, but they turned it around for 7.
I feel like it was just the conclusion of them trying to pump out the cheapest games possible, Umbrella Corps as a prime example. It's like they took RE 4 and tried to cut more and more corners each time imo.

If they do reboot the series, I just hope it isn't in a completely new direction like they're doing with Prey.

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>>33694583
I liked the idea of the harsh arctic environment being as much of a danger as the necromorphs, and i wish that was a more prominent feature.
But what i really liked was the preserved centuries old technology and the old suits.

2 is still my favorite though.

>>33687789
the design in that picture is great.

Any realistic design with arms capability would need to provide gloves so negative trigger pulling forces don't interrupt aim at extended ranges, and to provide stability to the weapon while standing / moving.


The soldier of the future will shoot further, faster, and more reliably than todays best, but it won't be done naturally.

But I don't see training infantryman getting the choice to use a powered suit for training range days that aren't armour speciific.

So naturally live weapons training will need to improve to cater to higher level of skill required when performing multiple highly trained complex actions simultaneously, such as firing while moving at distance targets with high powered weapons while operating in powered armour.

good days ahead, and lots of bad days for a lot of other bad dudes.

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A bloodsouls game in the future would be A.E.S.T.H.E.T.I.C. as fuck!

>>33694653
>I liked the idea of the harsh arctic environment being as much of a danger as the necromorphs, and i wish that was a more prominent feature.
Yeah but if we're going for dangerous environments I'd prefer deep space drastically over the harsh arctic. To be blunt the harsh arctic is nothing new in terms of horror settings.

They just need to make enemies a bigger threat in 0g environments first.

>>33694663
Someone is working on basically that, name escapes me though. You're all running around in exo suits basically, all the fleshy bits exposed but strength and speed are assisted.

>>33686627
>he unironically is NC scum

wew

>>33688101
I always love how 1 platoon of Colonial Marines, although only being a dozen humans, have the firepower and budget of a modern day nation.

And yet it takes almost the entire planet worth of aliens to kill them, and some still survive and nuke the planet.

Colonial Marines are fucking tough.

Shame they haven't gotten a great video game yet.

Rebellion need to make another Alien FPS

AVP 2010 was an amazing game.
Easy played through each campaign at least twice.
Probably played through the Colonial Marine campaign 4 or so times.

Fuck SEGA for their pos

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>>33687875
actually anon, they've come a long way in exoskeletal mechanics and ballistics protection. Take the TALOS here, for example. It uses magnetic fluid to help stop projectiles.

>>33688749
>Active camouflage

That game was shit.

The "firing range" for weapons modification, and the actual modification system itself was actually really sick though.

I really don't see how that level of weapons depth isn't standard in FPS/3PS these days.

COD sucks with its lame pick X amount of accessories, and somehow thats still more modification than most games have!

>>33693146
>be year 20xx
>still using weapon from the Mesolithic era to hunt
>Bow and Arrow
If it works it works man, no need to change.

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>>33694644
For a reboot I just want them to keep these aspects.
>alone on a space ship/station
>must be an engineer
>third person
>heavy horror

I would be fine with more necromorphs but they're just glorified zombies.
The franchise shouldn't be married to just necromorphs.
Imagine if they went with true aliens attacking/ infesting a ship.
As long as the horror and tension is there, I'd be down for bugs, humanoids or even robots.

>>33693579
Classic Militia delusional thinking

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The Halo ODST live action trailer gave me such feels, nearly made me enlist.

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>>33685358
they have STARS drones too.

baseball (iirc) sized micro satalites used to co-ordinate field ops ad relay info between teams, Kurt uses them it to review the S3's field footage after the class is wiped out in their suicide mission

>>33684804
in the books there are pods that can carry mongooses and presumably other that carry other larger items of a similar size. A team is meant to be self sufficient for two weeks based on what is contained in their initial drop. supplies

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>>33694436
>>33694509
>pic related
>>33694551
I was talking about the Shoretroopers.

>>33689072
>section 8
My nigga
This game was dope as fuck even if it was poorly designed and ttk was weird as fuck

>>33689392
>F3 shit on the original design
>NV try it's best to fix it with a shitty engine
>F4 do it justice despite some shortcoming
>mod somehow better than what bethesda would ever make

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>>33686627
>>33686647
> choosing the technologically superior faction with fucking hover-tanks

>>33686547
>Drop Pods
>Similar mission profiles
>Stupid dangerous mountain training as final test
>Officers Drop First

40% sure it's been directly confirmed that they're heavily inspired by the MI.

>>33689117
Note that this was a real development in the universe. They USED to drop in two or three big vehicles, but they were huge targets and too slow.

Note that ODSTs were also developed largely during the Insurrection, where it would have been much more effective for stealth. Harder to track a frigate in orbit and whether you're going to get dropped on in your shitty IED facility than tracking a VTOL full of air assault.

>>33691471
what bothered me about IW is that all the shit happening in campaign literally takes place in a single day. other than that shit was solid.

>>33689000
Don't mind the plot of the sequels, but the gameplay was shit in comparison. Literally took the things that made Crysis different from other FPS, a semi-open map design and interesting abilities that could be used in inventive ways in the engine, and pissed them away.

Nanosuit abilities nerfed despite it supposedly being an upgraded model, no decent physics engine, boring linear maps, combination of the previous 3 resulting in suit abilities acting more like power ups than actual game changers. Full of bullshit compromise to accommodate Multiplayer and Consoles.

3 was better than 2 but still not as good as it should have been.

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Don't know if this counts, but Doomguy's new duds are sick as fuck. The Praetor suit could do with some more tech lore, but on the face of it I like the idea of a fusion between Hell magic and human tech.

>>33688797
To be fair I hate what Halo has become now too. If there was to be a halo movie I wouldn't even want it on Chief or his story. He's got games for that shit and it's already being ran into the ground and that saddens me too. I think it'd be better if they just got a storyline from say maybe a unit of ODSTs. Spartans just make cameos or something. Something like making a film like the book Contact Harvest. Not saying making a Contact Harvest movie but something like that.

>>33688797
343's Halo is shit tier but I actually liked Forward Unto Dawn.

>>33690759
Exactly this. It's fucking awful to see such a great franchise burn like this one has. Especially my favourite that I'd played since I was a kid.

>>33689048
The armored version looks sexy. Practical. Always preferred the Nork Nanosuit for the same reason

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>>33687747
Oh shit, pretty realistic. Especially the webbing

>>33684529
My personal favorite are the UNSC marines

>>33694393
>stormtroopers are literally nazis
Disney why?

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Canine Operated Heavy Duty Fibrous Material Tank Exosuit

>>33696589
with blue reinforced adhesive polymer*

>>33687299
Killzone was pretty shitty,

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You ever wonder why we're here?

>>33696043
Giving up your will to join a religious faction that intends to install itself as government and force everyone to follow them while tinkering with unstable alien artifacts because "muh science." Also your purple dick guns suck. They give away your position and really if I wanted to shoot what looks like purple jizz at people I would have filled a supersoaker with kool-ade.

>>33686189

Armor was a teleporter though

>>33694551
>info regarding the new starwars movies.

anything pre-Disney that isn't the main movies/Clone Wars is now considered non canon.

Which is why Rogue one is essentially a reworked script of Dark Forces

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>>33696502
>began life as power armor that allowed its wearer to haul mountains of gear, run like a cheetah, take no fall damage, and tank small arms fire, rockets, and blasts of hell energy

>presumably functioned as an EVA suit to boot

>somehow reforged in Hell, now virtually indestructible and allows Doomguy to absorb energy from killed demons

>can be further enhanced with demonic runes on top of it

>jet boots allow for traversal and attack from nearly any direction

If it doesn't, it damn well ought to be

>>33694684
AvP Gold and AvP2 were miles ahead of the new one. Hell even the arcade AvP with no-Arnold & ninja girl was better.

>>33696762

but those boots

iddy biddy widdle booties

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>>33696779
Nigga wat? These things are skull crushers.

>>33692932
You DON'T handle that situation. Chief is only not slaughtering everyone there because he doesn't want to.

>>33687730
>I'm launchin' muh missiles
>Oh they all got shot to shit by the enemy's interceptor drones.
>Now the enemy is launching their missiles.
>What do we have to counter their missiles with?
>Oh.
>Oh I see.

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Not really Sci fi/futuristic but would the factions from s.t.a.l.k.e.r (mostly Duty) count?

They are well armed they fight mutants that could rip a man in half and manage to thrive in a place where is not meant to have humans and they manage to not use artifacts

Also they use exoskelly so that sci fi i guess

>>33697443
what mod?

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>>33697685
HD models addon for CoC

www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-chernobyl-hd-models-addon

replaces the textures of almost every armor to give factions a more military look

that one replaces the Duty sunrise

Also the bandit trechcoat is pretty much pic related minus the soviet star and the cat

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>>33697722
dank thanks bud