How important are aesthetics to you? Looking around for my first

>>33666659
O-okay

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>>33666635
pretty important

>>33666635
I prefer my brothers CZ75b over my sig p226. Personally would go with a CZ but sigs are dope. And it doesn't look bad at all!

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>>33666635
CZ's are gr8

>>33666635
Choosing aesthetics over practicality is OK depending on why you are buying that gun.

If it's just a collector's item / range toy / LARP accessory, get whatever makes your dick hard. Nothing wrong with that.

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>>33666635
as long as the gun fires when you pull the trigger, you're basically good in 99.99% of scenarios. but if you don't like the aesthetic of a nice cz-75, you should go off yourself.

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>>33666635
>>33667606

Continued...

Most people who buy guns for self-defense (and for that matter, for a SHTF scenario) never actually see combat. In this case I would pick a firearm that you like aesthetically but can still trust your life to.

If you are an armed professional, you absolutely should get the best piece of hardware that you can find, regardless of aesthetics.

CZ75's are honestly great, especially if you have little monkey hands that can actually rack the slide.

>>33666635

I think the CZ is an acquired taste, have a look at the new ipsc models coming out over the past couple of months.

IMO they're looking better and better as they go on.

>>33667694
reeeeeeeeeee get off my board normal faggot
>>33667661

>>33667723

I used to think they were absolutely disgusting fwiw.

>>33667743
fwiw? also
>>>/trash/

>>33666635

Pretty is extremely important. CZ SP01 shoots like a motherfucker, so it gets to be prettier than anything it outperforms.


...Which is almost anything I have ever put my hands on, including SIGs, P30s, VP9, glocks, and a bunch of other shit.

>>33666635
Cz sp-01 and p-01 are the best guns ever made but they are heavy.
I don't like the RAMI very much.
If you get a 75b, consider the omega. The trigger is simpler and better.

>>33666635
I've owned a few hk pistols and prefer the p-09 or p-07 too them. They're pretty similar feeling to shoot.

>>33666635
>How important are aesthetics to you?

Enough that I won't buy a butt ugly gun.

Not enough that I'd buy a gun on looks alone.

>>33666635
I dunno, I think CZ has some good aesthetics personally. But all that aside, how often are you going to be looking at the side profile of the gun? Just get what feels good in your hand.

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>CZ
>not aesthetic as fuck brand

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>>33669177
CZs are ugly as fuck anon
Super serious.

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>>33669230
Can't tell if bait or not

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>>33669230
>CZ
>ugly

Say that to my face, not online.

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>>33666635
>High quality at a reasonable price
Check
>Lots of variants
The only variant that matters is the one you buy

Follow your desires, OP. Get the gun that you want to own, look at, foldle, and shoot.

>>33669285
No, I generally find CZs to be fairly awful on the eyes.

>>33669338
k

>>33669338
Want proof?

WHO THE FUCK PUTS A PHILLIPS HEAD ON THE EXTERIOR OF A GUN

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>>33666635
Sexiiest Subcompact 9 is the kahr mk9 with wood grips.

Tell me you arent erect.

>>33666635
>CZ
>Not the AESTHETIC gun of choice

True facts, I was going to buy a Beretta but ended up getting a CZ 97b instead because of how AESTHETIC it is.

I don't even like .45

>>33669360
Practical people

You got a problem with Phillips head you fucking flathead faggot?

YOU WANNA TAKE THIS OUTSIDE!?

>>33669405
>defending a hideous screw in a thread about aesthetics
kill yourself, assuming that gun would even fire.

>>33669405
>Flathead screws exist
>Be cunt named Phillip
>Decide things would be better if screws were less standardized and more easily stripped
>Everything is ruined forever

>>33669230
>posts P30s
Yeah this is bait.

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>mfw I have a gun that is over 100 years old, and is still more attractive than any gun posted thus far in the thread.

>>33669530
That looks like a childs toy

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>>33669553
actually a whores toy.

>>33669465
Flathead is cancer, screwdriver won't stay centered and it's impossible to get any torque on it, maybe if they didn't use shit metal Phillips wouldn't strip, but in any case...
>hex bolt master race

>>33669955
>hex
>not torx or robinson
lmao you failure.

>>33670006
Torx strips out easy
However I will agree Robinson is top tier
>filthy Canucks keeping it for themselves

>>33670157
maybe a T8, but a T10 or T15 will NEVER strip. you will snap a screw before stripping it.

>>33666635
very important for guns that sit in side for collection reasons. very little for guns i actually shoot.

>>33670216
These are the only deck screws I use.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Grip-Rite-25-lb-9-x-3-in-Countersinking-Head-Polymer-Coated-Star-Drive-Deck-Screws/3353368

>>33670216
When you deal with any real amount of torque, like for engines, I've seen T45 round right the fuck up, then you have to drill it out, but it doesn't really matter when it's just a hand screw driver tightening a fastener

>>33666635
>How important are aesthetics to you?
not one iota, but I do enjoy watching you faggots circlejerk over it and cackle like women in a kitchen.

>>33670282
If you are rounding out a T45 on an engine, you need to use some PB blaster and a propane torch.

>>33666635
Try shooting them at a local range, and see what you like. I am looking at the beretta 92 or a px4 storm because i am interested in the different locking systems. Most guns now are super reliable, especially military tested ones, so I don't worry about it. I have shot my dad's sig p226 extensively and it is a nice gun.

>>33670301
>just use pbplaster
LOL it was just that easy?
It's really got nothing to do with the shape of the head, but the grade of the fastener and the tool that will tell if it strips, I'm not hating on torx, I'm just bitter whenever car manufacturers use fasteners other than hex bolts, they always use shit grade and they always break of strip

Well I carry a Glock so...

>>33670380
Just buy a Glock 19 senpai

>>33670380
desu for cars every single nut and bolt should be grade 8.

>>33669465
>>33669445
>>33669405
>Be American
>Never know the glory of Robertson because Ford was a dick

>>33670380
Anywho; im derailing from the thread, my autism is FLARING, in terms of
>A E S T H E T I C
Standard, torx, or Robinson are best

>>33670480
for aesthetics:
>flathead
>torx
>robinson

For function
>robinson
>torx
>....
>flat head

>>33670490
Standard is SHIT for function

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Depends what kind of a gun it is. My CCW? Couldn't care less. Target rifle/pistol? Very important, if that's what I'm looking for.

I know it will make many of the turbo-autists on this board REEEEE but 99.99% of gun owners will never have to fire a shot in anger. You will almost assuredly never have to use your AR-15 in a life-or-death scenario, and you'll never go innawoods with your PSL or Tigr after a nuclear meltdown. And as such, aesthetics are a perfectly valid consideration for people on the consumer market. Especially if all other things are equal. Which would you rather buy, assuming they both have identical performance? A car that looks like a brand new Porsche, or a rusted piece of shit that's got a cracked windshield and suspicious stains in the trunk?

>>33670530
...Which is why I listed every other fastener above it.

>>33670216
I know for a fact that t-15s do get stripped just like anything else.

>>33670580
I have gone through over 5 25lb boxes of deck screws and never stripped a single one.

>>33670572
Oh by ... You meant all the others

>>33670598
You're going through wood
You couldn't strip a screw through wood if you tried

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>>33669285
>that cherry-on-black action

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Love my cz's but this seems like a good place to ask a cz question.
I notice there is a lot of visible casing with the chambered round. Is this a head spacing concern? Should this concern me if I want to run over pressured rounds?

>>33670675
Cocobolo

>>33670620
>You couldn't strip a screw through wood if you tried
Confirmed for not knowing shit about wood and never working with anything harder than pine

>>33670727
I don't mean the thread, we are taking about the heads of bolts

>>33667676
I chose NCR just so I could easily steal ammo for this beauty

>>33670727
Unless you are talking about the heads in which case stop using shitty screws and actually drill pilot holes

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>>33670675
>>33670719
>mfw they exist for the compact P-01 as well
Welp, I know what my next carrygat is going to be.

>>33670934
you're god damn right. $55 well spent. mine in the mail

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This screwdriver talk is incredible.
Pls include me in the screencap.

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>>33669397
I like the way you think anon . Pic related is one that i just picked up

>>33666889

>not getting the VZ diamond grips

It's like you want the gun to slip out of your hand

>>33666635

I own both a CZ sp-01 and a Sig P226 and I love how perfect out of the box the sig was. The siglite sights and everything was smooth ready to shoot. When I bought my new sealed sp-01 the sights weren't zero'd in and there was a scratch on the barrel. Of course it didn't bother me later on because of normal wear, but when buying a new item it's bothersome. I do prefer the decocker and ergonomics on the sp-01 more. At the end of the day I'd use my p226 for work rather than the p-01. You can often find LEO trade ins for as low as ~$450 if you're patient.

>>33667676
So pretty ;_;

>>33670344
I'm pretty much limited to 92fs, the Px4 and USPs because of my hands and the fact that I had slip on grips

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Very important.

If I don't like the firearm enough I'll end up selling it off. I try hard not to buy firearms I don't like both in form and function so I don't end up losing money in the future.