I'm planning on buying my first bolt-action in .308. I

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Bumping because i too am in your position wanting a pretty decent bolt action in either .308 or 5.56.

Ive been looking at the howa as well but was wondering if there was maybe a 16" model for running around in the bush with. The claymore sounds like a good idea. Might i throw in a suggestion. Get a folding stock piece to make it easier for transport. Just a suggestion

>>33638597
Yeah I might get a folding stock adapter, depends how unwieldy a case feels once I actually get my hands on it. If I were going hunting I would definitely go for it, but I live in an urban area so bringing it into the woods isn't really an option.

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>>33638652
Ahh i see. kinda makes me sad that the .308 or .223 versions wont shoot the nato loadings.

around here in southern Appalachia its hills and mtns with very few areas to get a shot thats 400 yrds or more without dense as fuck tree cover.

Other things that are on my lists is having decent buis on the rifle. Always loved my no.4 mk1 siggts but would like something in the .308 or .223 range

Why not just buy a ruger american for your first bolt and git gud

>>33638728
>Ahh i see. kinda makes me sad that the .308 or .223 versions wont shoot the nato loadings.

You're a bit off there. 5.56 and .223 aren't the same. In a pinch, they're interchangeable, but 5.56 is a hotter load and the case dimensions are a little bit different, so if you've got a civvie .223, you'll probably want to stick to .223 but a 5.56 chamber will eat .223 mostly without issue.

.308 and 7.62x51 are even more similar. IIRC the case dimensions are the same, but .308 is actually a hotter load, so if something's 7.62x51, it can be dangerous or damaging to continually shoot .308. If you've got a .308 chamber, 7.62x51 is absolutely interchangeable, but you'll have to run your numbers for the different load.

If you're a decent shot already and just learning .308, M118 surplus is a decent place to start. Reasonably cheap and plentiful and good enough (usually around 1.5MOA) to start on until you start getting more serious and graduate to the expensive stuff and/or reloading.

>>33638848
I don't like the idea of using a cheap gun to it gud and then ditch it later, even though it probably does make more sense. Plus resale is a hassle.

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>>33638867
Ahh see i knew about the 5.55 part not the .308 bit thats actually news to me ill do some searching on that thanks friendo.

>>33639035
*5.56 i have sausage fingers

>>33638896

Why not buy a budget precision gun then?

>>33639104
Suggestions?
Also aesthetics

>>33638597
Just looked up another linear comp that looks better than the claymore

http://www.blackrivertactical.com/concrete5/covert-comp/

about the same price too

>>33639113
Mossberg MVP in either caliber. Accepts ar mags of either caliber also has the same stock availbe you was looking at.

>>33639308
how's the barrel/action quality compared to howa though?

>>33639422
Um to be honest its been about 6 months since i held the MVP and the Howa but they couldnt have been bad because i really would have remebered them then lol.

The MVP with the fluted bolt felt really nice i can tell you that and it was on the +$700 model.

If you have any semi decent fudd stores near ya they will probably carry both of them.

That ruger precision in 6.5 Creedmoor or 308 would rip as well.

>>33638497

I think it's a good idea to buy something quality so I'll back you on that, I don't have a Howa but they have a great reputation.

Why all the fluff though? I mean, no h8 your taste is gr8, but you could get a Boyds laminate stock for like $100 and then glass bed it for a few bucks more.

>>33640021
Honestly it's because I just hate the synthetic/laminate aesthetic.

Do everything there except .223 instead of 308