>T-14 Armata >The tank features the Afghanit active protection

I can't wait to see it captured by some sand niggers in Iraq or w/e in 10 years and driven around for the cameras.

>>33615340
I sincerely hope we can get along with the good ol' Ruskies. They're up against the US, which has more manpower and more money, EU, which has more money, China, which has WAY more manpower, and the list goes on. Even then, the Russians fight on and you have to respect them for that.

>>33615340
Russians always, ALWAYS overstate their technological capabilities. I would put good money on the Armata being a very capable tank, but not notably better (if better at all) than the current Abrams.

inb4 dumbasses post their thoughts when some hand-me-down gets fucked on because it was given to arabs.

>>33615340
throw rocks at it to waist the APS then shoot ti with a javelin

>>33615340
APS has a finite number of charges that is usually smaller than the number of m829a3 shells an abrams can carry. Plus the abrams can take basically everything to the front glacis and come out completely fine.

>>33615442
>manpower
More transpower, idk about manpower

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>>33615340
its either
>great tank too bad there's only one

or

>ok tank does nothing better than the competition and they've made about 100 of em

>>33615626

>Plus the abrams can take basically everything to the front glacis and come out completely fine.

Except that's simply not true.

>>33615698
Hey man they took out a couple of Iraqi T-55s man, the Abrams is undeadable

>all the insecure fatniks ITT
>>33615471
>>33615676
end this meme please

>>33616074
>meme
>but actually the truth

Calling something a meme doesn't automatically make it false. Nice try though; 25 cents deposited.

>>33615340
>how can USA, China, UK or India even compete?

Well, the USA will do what it's always done and build a better tank/improve the ones it has and btfo whatever sand niggers are using in 20 years.

China will continue to eclipse Russia as America's dominant global rival on all fronts and produce a few more ZTZ-99s

UK might throw smoothbore 120s on the Chally 2 and call it a day, or they might just not give a fuck because there's really no reason to give a fuck about a handful of Russian tech demo tanks.

India is irrelevant and will continue to spend more money on figuring out indoor plumbing than on weapons development.

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Build in numbers the Vatnik economy could never hope to compete with

Reminder that Russian defense budget is roughly 1/9th of Murica's

>>33616074
It's the truth, I'm not sure how anybody worth their salt can actually say Russian equipment is better, especially after how lackluster the performance in Syria is (the Navy not even being mentioned here).

>>33615399
Haha. Will never happen, this is the ultimate battle tank.

>>33616716
Yeah, that's what they said about the T-55, and 62, and 64, and 72, and 80, and 90... Aside from the 64 I'm pretty sure we've seen all of them being blown up and paraded around over the last few years.

But, you're half right in a sense. The Russian's won't even export the T-64, and I doubt there's anything in that tank that the West hasn't known about since the 80s at the latest. The odds that anyone besides Russia will have T-14s in their inventory that aren't stolen are low.

>>33615340
Has this thing seen combat or proven the claims Russians are providing?

>>33615340
Those are just fanfiction. There is no information that all that is said is real.

>>33617057
>>33617199

It just got released recently. Why the fuck do you expect an impressive battle record so soon?

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>>33615340
The true capability of the T14 is currently a mystery and there are way too few built to be significant at this time.
The biggest problem I have with the T-14 is how fuck ugly the ting is.
We where promised a Black Eagle style tank whith autocannons, 152mm guns, CIWS and the works.
Then it was unveiled like a wet fart, a fugly lump, big, crude and blocky, fixed hard kill launchers and nothing really revolutionary.
Pic related, what was being shilled and what we wanted.

>>33615340
>how can USA, China, UK or India even compete?
But they do, every country you listed is actively working on soft and hard kill ADS. And Russians wish they had APS as good as AMAP-ADS HEAVY.

What I am interested more than their overgrown Drozd is the new soft ADS, which combines missiles with EMP generators, decoys and smoke grenades.

>>33615471
>Russians always, ALWAYS overstate their technological capabilities.

Not always, advertisements, vatniks and propaganda TV-shows are doing this, but declassified scientific papers and manuals are usually on point.

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>>33616716

>>33615340

When a drone at 30k feet in the air dumps a 1000 lb bomb on it, will just the turret fly off or will the whole thing flip over?

>>33616771

They didn't say that with the T-55: even when it first came out, it was average.

>>33617561
>isis switched the front lights from red to black so it matches their flag

This is some serious video game shit

>>33617561
surprised tank is surprised

Russia is too poor to afford anything good in meaningful quantities.

>>33617607
The point still stands.

>>33617561
>Previously it was assumed that the tank imeeetsya failure mechanism of rotation of the tower, but now, apparently, the terrorists managed to solve this problem. As the "Bulletin of Mordovia" is one of the leading experts on the Syrian crisis Yuri Ljamin, the T-90A belongs to the militants of the terrorist group "Hayat Tahrir al-Sham", which included including "Nusra" banned in Russia and several other radical groups . Settlement Mardes for the third time passes from hand to hand over the last couple of weeks. First he captured militants, then the Syrian military managed to repulse him, and now the terrorists went there again.

It spearheaded an assault and SAA wasn't able to stop the assault, wtf Russia is ISIS.

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http://youtu.be/DgfsikKLYbw
Get your cheap shit outa here german space nazi tech rules again
- is currently being installed on all German combat vehicles

>>33615340
Come back when it's actually combat proven, like Trophy.

>>33617539
>We where promised
No, you were not. You were just too dumb to believe some fan made 3D model based off a random unnamed plastic model in a random video from the design bureau was in fact the T-14.

>>33617550
>Not always, advertisements, vatniks and propaganda TV-shows are doing this, but declassified scientific papers and manuals are usually on point.

Like America

>>33618726
i guess if you want to compare yourself to an entire continent

>>33616373
murrica and "defense" budget

According to McMaster the US has fallen behind in land forces when it comes to modernization. Skip to 2:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVzGd2CElR0

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>>33615340
>USA
As usual - by making CG renders and propaganda movies.

>>33615340
The Boeing laser made tank warfare basically obsolete

All those crews will be broiled to death

>>33618902
>le epik laser meme

I swear you guys are the most gullible military-industrial customers in existence

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>>33619360

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Not worried.

>>33620118
The fuck is that?

>>33620118
>M1A2 SEP V3

I wonder...

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>>33618713
That particular model was pushed by russian state media as was the rumors about autocannons.
That matters little, it is expected of russians to lie, cheat and trick. The problem is that the T-14 is butt fucling ugly. I would be ashamed to go into battle in that ugly lump.
I mean look at this hot piece, made by russians no less. It got curves, futuristic looks and everything.
You russians had it in you to build nice looking tanks but we got deviantart tier trash.
Sad!

>>33620590
>pushed by russian state media
Citation needed. Inb4 CNN is US state media.

>>33620118
Top t72 can probably beat the shit out of sepv3

>>33615340
lol well for one thing they will never field any of them cause they're broke fucks

>>33616074
Sergei pls. Go make more 1 meter models

>>33617539
damn that looks so nice.

>>33620590
i with you on this on, im sure it was probably the better tank and its why they chose it but i like the black eagle and the modern t90s way more then the t14. i assuming there will be an era package that will change the shape of that toy looking turret.

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>>33620893
I think the shitty look had something to do with it. I mean, if you're going to operate five different front-line MBTs, you want to at least be able to tell them apart visually. I'm not the best, but I know my tanks and I have trouble telling a T-80 from a T-72 from a T-64 at times. There's no mistaking an Armata for any tank in the world (save maybe a PL-01 if you're a stealthfag) and I believe that's the way the Russians wanted it.

Western tanks all follow a pretty standard design: boxy hull, raised engine deck, highly sloped upper glacis with flat lower glacis, flat turrets with sharply angled fronts and slab sides. Eastern tanks, sans ERA at least, all have the distinctive cast turret of varying but similar hemispherical design and more or less the same hull layout from the T-44. Regardless of capability, apparent or factual, the Russians knew they were going to be the first into the new generation of MBT, and wanted to make as show of it. It makes sense, given their history. While construction and ability may not have been the best, tanks like the T-34, IS-3, and now the T-14 show that the Russians have a flare for bringing the world into new eras of armored combat in (somewhat ironically) extravagant ways.

Also, if we're talking paper panzers and the like here, the Object 477/490A gets my vote. Something about that turret just screams "Put a 155mm cannon on me and point me at the Chechens"

>>33622272
Sorry, 152, not 155. I doubt anyone will be Slovak ZUZANA'ing any Russian MBTs anytime soon.

>>33615340
>muh active protection
>NATO and their allies have nothing like this
>even though the K-2 black panther has active protection so there's literally no way the US isn't capable of it

>>33622272
But whose tank is the biggest?

>>33615340
Wow, Russia built a few new unproven tanks, I'm sure that will help with their African tier economy.

>>33622351
>>NATO and their allies have nothing like this
Trophy and AMAP-ADS are a thing, you know.

>>33622489
DELET>>33622519

>>33615698
It can certainly take every munition fired from a 125mm cannon and below. There's video of one surviving a Kornet to the turret.

>>33620660
>https://www.rt.com/news/234363-armata-tracked-armored-platform
Get fucked vatnik
>inb4 no promise it would look like that
>inb4 RT is not state controlled
Yea, suck a dick.

>>33622939
#rekt

>>33620825
>Top t72
A T-90AM?
Not a chance, those can't even deal with your ordinary M1A2.

90% of russian armor is t72 and t80. its not like russia can field a massive number of these and t80 tanks are pretty crap compared to a leapord and use too much gas meanwhile t72 armor is very poor.

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>>33617539

sod off m8

a lot of thinking went into T-15

>>33622939
RT is not state media.

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>>33617750

>>33617387
I expect proof that it works.

>>33624681
Good looks did not.

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>>33624976
>RT is not state media.

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>>33615340
>but how can USA, ... even compete?

By having segmented or other novel penetrators, using dense materials like DU, developing ETC guns that use caseless ammunition made of advanced propellants, equipping tanks or infantry, maybe even projectiles, with jammers, developing things like CKEM or MRM, deploying/developing things like Quick Kill or IAAPS, or so on and so on?

I'm sure you'll be telling me how "muh subsonic petards" are ineffective or "muh Krakusha" is "undeadable" or other such shit. (MUH MONKEY MODELS!!!)

Get fucked vodkanigger.

>>33624976

Would you say they're a reliable source?

>>33615442
>They're up against the US, which has more manpower and more money, EU, which has more money, China, which has WAY more manpower, and the list goes on. Even then, the Russians fight on and you have to respect them for that.


No they are shit.

>>33615471
>>33615471
>Russians always, ALWAYS overstate their technological capabilities


This

This tank broke down IN RED SQUARE

What is it powdered by S400?

Fuck off vatniks

>>33615340

Reality

It is Russian. They will shit on about it like s400 and it will in the end not deliver, then we will have a million threads about BECAUSE and NEXT TIME

Watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgS9GA3nBco

>>33624976
>RT is not state media.

fuck off. It is the voice of the Russian oligarchy that is headed by putin

Fucking lying vatniks

>>33624976
>RT is not state media
>this is what vatniks actually believes

>>33626213
>This tank broke down IN RED SQUARE
This is what burgers want to believe. It's not surprising that they're being led by the nose by the jews.

>>33615340
Probably by fielding infantry.
>>33626213
>This tank broke down
Pretty sure it was just the driver which hadn't been given training with the gearbox, if I followed it correctly some guy from the factory came and just drove it off.

>>33628507
Doesn't matter. One direct hit from an MK-84 and this thing would be a crater you fucking vatnik.

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>>33628820
You are so lacking an argument that instead of even attempting to move the goal posts like a regular retard would, you instead went super fucking retard and went decided to point out that the T-14, just like every other tank ever made, is vulnerable to having 1000lbs of bomb land on it.
You need to go back to r eddit.

>>33629146

Armor isn't used in a vacuum. Unless you have air dominance, tanks are coffins with treads, my dude.

>>33628426

Vatnik shill. T-14 is hot garbage.

>>33629180
You don't seem to understand.
The exchange went:
>It broke down.
>No it didn't.
>Yeah, well huge bombs can blow it up, you fucking vatnik.

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Armata looks way better though lmao

It's also BIG

You feel cucked yet, burgerboi?

>>33629823
>muh look
>muh big
Do you know how you sound, Sergej?

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Holy shit how much insecured amerisharts lmao
>HURRR DURR BROKE ON THE RED SQUARE

>>33628820

... Do you realize how retarded you look now? Luckily for you, this is anonymous message board, you dimwit.

>>33629823
I remember this one big superheavy tank some country built once. it crushed the cobblestones when it rolled on roads, and couldn't go into soft terrain or it would get bogged down. it was just too big! now if only I could remember in which country the last surviving example is kept...

>>33615340
Why aren't kinetic penetrator AT weapons being built. They're the only way for the infantry to stay relevant when APS systems are commonplace. You would also think that infrared blocking camouflage would be made.

>>33626213
>What is it powdered by S400?

What do you mean?

>>33629823
>Armata looks way better
There is literary no uglier tank in post war history.
It looks like hot shit.

The Armata is probably a piece of shit like the S-400.

When the S-400 launchers roll by during the Victory Day parade this year I wonder if people in the crowd will boo at them for failing in Syria?

>>33630028
>kinetic penetrator AT
The US will probably revive the LOSAT should the T-14 against all odds both turn out both good and numerous enough to be anything else than a propaganda piece.

>infrared blocking camouflage
The Swedes have already done so.
https://youtu.be/p3qHhyxf5jY

>>33630059

I was thinking more like an overcoat that an infantryman would don when might be spotted by an AFV or a drone. With the advent of IR-optics and APS the infantry is currently less powerful in relative terms than ever before.

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>>33628426
Nice b8 m8

>>33615340

How has it skipped over everyones' heads that the Abrams, Challanger, and Leopard II are a weight class above the T-14? Asking if it's equal is like asking if the M4 Sherman was an equal to the Panther I: it wasn't, because one had another tank's worth of protection.

A more accurate NATO analogue would be the Leclerc.

>>33620590
>That particular model was pushed by russian state media
No, it was not.
>it is expected of russians to lie
Nice projections, amerishit.
>The problem is that the T-14 is butt fucling ugly
No, rather you are just butt-devastated about a tank.
>I mean look at this hot piece
That's just a T-80 with bells and whistles.
>but we got deviantart tier trash
You sure did, and it's called M1.
>>33622939
>https://www.rt.com/news/234363-armata-tracked-armored-platform
>Screenshot from youtube.com video / YouTube
Lol, amerishit. Can you even make a single post without shitting your own pants, you obese faggot? Are you the same autist who claimed RT "pushed the looks of the PAK TA" despite them literally pointing out they are using some student's art project as an illustration? Pathetic amerishit 89IQ scum. Get fucking rekt, clown.

>>33615471
>Russians always, ALWAYS overstate their technological capabilities
Amerishit projections. That's what amerishits do about their amerishit junk. Take for instance the stated capabilities of F-111 scrapbucket, and then look at its actual performance in combat. Typical amerishit attitude.

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>>33630858
>HURR DURR WEIGHT EQUALS ARMOUR
Lol, amerishits, will they ever learn?

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Wow..... so powerful........

>>33626213
>This tank broke down IN RED SQUARE
And then it magically repaired itself, right, amerishit? T-14 "breaking down" on a "parade" is the funniest meme amerishits have yet shat out of their foul obese lying amerishit mouths.

>>33631015
Its brakes sure are.

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>>33631026
No, it was towed away, silly shill.

>>33631005

>Amerishits

It's Americunts. There is no "S" in American you dumb Vatnik. For you it's "Russhit".

>>33631044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq6mbvVoqY0
Lying obese amerishit faggot clown. Who would have thought.
>>33631099
>There is no "S" in American
However there is plenty of shit in it.

>>33631015
its recovery vehicles sure are shit if they can't even move a vehicle that's immobile.

how is it supposed to move a vehicle stuck in the mud if it can't even budge something with the brakes on?

>>33631131
Because brakes exist specifically to prevent an object from moving, you obese 89IQ amerishit.

>>33631035
i kekd

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>>33631120
>However there is plenty of shit in it.

Fuck. I'm an American and even i have to admit that was a decent comeback.

>>33631151
Including stopping the driver from being able to move the tank.

>>33631640
Yes, as in you just pushed a button and have no idea how to turn off whatever you just turned on.

>>33630979
>No, it was not.
Yes it was, vatnik.
>YouTube
And russian state media did not bother to send for a correct picture, nor do they accredit other pictures in their article with youtube videos. It is very clear that the russian state wanted people to believe that the CGI render was what was being made.
>projections
Nah my dear vatnigger, there is a reason why words like Potemkin and Maskirovka are from russia.
The russian state lies as standard practice. Remember how they denied Chernobyl back in the day?
Remember how they denied it was their sub who got stranded outside of Karlskrona, Sweden and they had to get the fucking captain on the phone to get them to admit anything?
Russians are liars.
Not that it matters much here, the concept images where light years better looking than the abortion we got now.
The T-14 is ugly as sin.