/k/, as a long time "gun guy" (not to imply im an operator

Colt LE901 for .308 goodness and whatever uppers you can find in standard AR15 uppers. Ultimately, whatever you do with this concept will give you mediocre results at best over all your categories. Full ass one or two things rather than 1/8 assing a bunch of shit.

>>33611685
I've had two of these

>>33611661
You want an honest answer? Ruger Mini-14. Ammo+parts are everywhere, it's not XBOX HUEG, comes in .223 or .308, under a grand so you can accessorize however you like, and it looks nice

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>>33611661

>>33611661
What were your perceived shortcomings of 6.5gren?
>excellent medium game round out to about 400m
>excellent target round out to 1km
>very excellent varmint/small game round with handloads (Sierra's 85 and 100gr hollowpoint Varminter rounds are devastating)
>can plink with 25cpr steelcase Wolf
>all the modularity of the AR
>light enough recoil for run n' gun competitions like 3-gun
>suppresses about as well as a supersonic round can

>>33611661
What are your problems with the AR10 platform? Set up a lower on collapsible stock such as Magpul ACS, a 16in upper for short range shit and creating fireballs, 24 in upper for long range/hunting.

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>>33611727
Availability and commonality and premature bolt failure in ARs

>>33611709
>suggests Mini14 for any reason
>also says it comes in .308

Do you know how I know you are nogunz

>>33611661
The one size fits all rifle?
SCAR 17s is as close as your going to get. A 6mm Grendel/SPC/LBC in an AR is going to be if you want something lighter. Maybe a .22 nosler

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>>33611804
>Implying mini-14 doesn't come in .308

>>33611836
It doesn't, unless your talking about the m14.

>>33611836
well it is true
>At one point, Ruger began developing versions of the Mini-14 that were to be chambered in .308 Win. and .243 Win. Unfortunately, mechanical and production issues kept the rifles from ever being produced.
>https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2014/5/23/8-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-ruger-mini-14/

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>>33611854
A mini 14 had issues? Nooooooooooooo

Scar in 308 is the one true raifu to do it all.

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>>33611854
The Ruger XGI was an attempt by Ruger to create a competitor to the Springfield Armory's then-surplus M1A rifles, by up-scaling their proprietary Mini-14 rifle. It was chambered in .308 .243

>>33611737
Lack of standardization between manufacturers, and the only one I'd trust personally weighs in at 11lbs empty with no sights or anything. I know you all will say just man up and work out, but I like to hike in some ridiculously rugged terrain, plus speed up close would be a plus for in the brush.

>>33611661
M1A

>>33611785
>availability
the internet. It's readily available in large quantities.
>commonality
Why do you care if you're going down to 1 gun?
>premature bolt failure in AR's
Grossly overblown, and it's not like enough spare bolts to last your bloodline the rest of eternity costs a significant amount of money.

>>33611961
M1A Scout Squad

>>33611661
If I owned just one rifle I would want a mag fed bolt action from steyr, cz, tikka, aw etc. But your three gun rules that out.

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>>33612020
>M1A Scout Squad

Loaded M1A?

Carbon barrel 22 adjustable stocl

>>33611661
>hunt mediumlarge game
>plink
>heirloom quality
I dont know anything about the rest, but for those three:

It needs to be
>.30+ cal
>cheap ammo
>good wooden furniture with good QC and finish

My suggestions
>unissued M48 (matching serials)
>top tier kalashnikov rifle
>tikka t3 hunter
>a quality O/A shotgat

>>33611661
What's your deal breaker on the MWS? Weight? I've been seriously thinking about getting one as well.

M1As are shitcans not even made to their own specs. Youll end up pouring money to get 3gun accuracy out of them and in so doing make it unbearably uncomfy. 5.56 wont do it all, and does very little well as is. PTRs are an expensive crapshoot. AR10 with a ballistics advantage barrel and good trigger would work, Scar would work better, but the HANDL Mk17 scar mod is god tier. It also comes with a god tier price. Still, the scar is submoa out of the box and the comp is made of fucking magic.

>>33612016
Your first two points I get, however even with hand loading brass is expensive, and i have a tough time buying it when I can buy/ make .308 at a similar price. I guess that's not really a rational argument on my part though, given my criteria. However I'm just not convinced in the reliability of an AR chambered in it, given that the 7.62x39 ARS have never had a good reputation. Forward bolt velocity seems to be the big issue being that the AR was not originally designed to work.with such a tapered case. I'd genuinely love for you to prove me wrong though, I do like Grendel, it's such a great little round.

>>33612133
Yes, 11lbs unloaded isn't that bad until you hump it up several hundred feet of cliff with loose shale underfoot, or unless you're a true badass.

>>33612134
I've also considered this, but have read about people having issues with failure to feed.

>>33611661
Are you okay with a stoner rifle with multiple uppers? Because that's as close to do everything as you can realistically get short of a gunsite style 'practical' or 'scout' rifle but either of those will put you at a marked disadvantage in 3 gun or any competition shooting.
>AR-10 or SR-25 pattern rifle
>AR-15 pattern rifle
20 cal upper for competition and plinking
6.5/6.8mm or 30 cal upper for hunting anything up to elk and doing longer range target shooting.
Single shot uppers are available if you want to hunt anything elk or bigger
>or
AR-10/SR-25 and simply deal with the extra weight and recoil in competition

I presume you have a garage or workshop sounding relatively outdoorsy as you do, a couple armorer's tools and a vice allow you to tailor an AR to whatever you want to do. Hunting in brush? Shorter barrel, etc You can get a lot of flexibility out of as little as a couple uppers and a lower. I don't think you'll do much better than that in terms of consolidation of as many purposes to as little hardware as possible.
If I wanted to consolidate as much as possible I think that is the direction I would go.
>AR-15 with a few different uppers, shotgun reasonably suited for hunting fowl and clays, 22 handgun for plinking/practice, handgun for competition, and a carry piece

If you want a single gun to try and do everything you are going to be stuck with at least 30 cal. Probably a 308 semi-auto, preferably magazine fed for competition. You have a multitude of options there, some more practical than others:
>FN AR, M1, M1A, SCAR, AR-10/SR-25, PTR, FAL, Ljungman/Hakim/variants, SVT, etc

>>33612322
I think you are seeing where I'm coming from. I've put together several ARs'. I've loved/ been familiar with the system since middle school. Ive certainly considered most of the options you presented (all are very good, I'm just nit picking like a motherfucker) and I don't mean I rigidly want to only own one rifle, but rather I'd like to have that one rifle I grab for 90 percent of the things I use a rifle for. Master that one weapon. It becomes cheaper this way too, in the long run. I dont t want to have a rifle to constantly play barbie doll with and switch a bunch of shit around on it. I just want to.grab it and go do shit.

>>33611661
H&K G3 or a clone thereof. /thread

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>>33611661
>pass down to your grandchildren

a vepr in 7.62x54r, in the barrel length of your choice.

It's not the lightest, cheapest, or most accurate. But it does anywhere from good to great in all categories and would survive a nuclear apocalypse.

>>33612575
I have thought strongly about this in 308

>>33612590
the mags are the shortcoming. go 54r or go home.

>>33612599
Never heard of mag problems other than price

>>33611685
>3gun with nugget.
I'd pay $10 just to watch

>>33612631
csspec 308 mags are awesome, i dont know what anon above is talking about. they arent cheap though. 54r version only has expensive single stack mags.

>>33612720
Yes, I'm not really into polymer mags if I can avoid them >>33612720

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>>33612590
Owning a Vepr in 54r, I can soundly say you should go 308 instead if you do go that route. Unless of course you have several thousand rounds of 54r stashed.
>>33612599
It's funny you say that because it's actually the 54r mags which are one of the shortcomings. Even though there are now csspecs metal 54r mags (the plastic mags kinda sucked, they would bow out under sun and stress just like the shotgun mags, you'd have to pinch them in order to rock them in half of the time), the size and ammo availability are still huge drawbacks.
If I could do it over again I would go 308.

>>33612517
Competition is such a narrow niche it's really making the situation difficult.
Have a competition AR or AK specifically for that and build or buy something in the practical rifle category for everything else. One rifle for everything except for your hispeed polo shirt modo, only two calibers to fuck with, both very commonly available and with a wide variety of loadings.
You should be able to ethically hunt any range or game under most conditions where you don't need a magnum caliber and still do your run around fast thing or defend yourself adequately.

FWIW though once I've built something I've rarely felt the need to do anything other than swap uppers unless something broke. I've never really been into the constant barbie doll shuffle either, the uppers all have their own purpose and dedicated accessories as necessary. Constantly re-zeroing and moving things around is a pita.

I own a lot of shit because it interests me historically, mechanically, is simply fun to shoot, or otherwise but if needed to consolidate my collection down as much as possible, utilizing as few calibers as possible, that is what I would do and it pretty roughly matches what actually leaves my safe to 'work' but if I wanted a single 'firearm' I would go the AR-15 or AR-10 with multiple uppers route. YMMV.

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>>33611661
Well, for that scenario you're pretty much already limited to a battle rifle. An intermediate cartridge wouldn't do big game hunting, and anything other than semi auto wouldn't do for serious SHTF and defense against post-apocalypse games or whatever.

So you need to choose the caliber--for a semi-automatic full-sized rifle. .308 is an obvious choice, because of the wide availability, price, and amount of options of firearm available in it. However, other calibers like .30-06, 7.62x54R, and such are also viable contenders provided you find the rifle you want. However, consider that it has to be pretty accurate and have good scopes available if you want to hunt with it.

If you're poor, your caliber is chosen already--.308. No other caliber will allow you such cheap rifles and ammo that fits your criteria. Join the /brg/ threads for the endless arguments on which .308 battle rifle is better, but it all comes down to balancing price, ergonomics and reliability. Like reliability above all, and ergonomics can get fucked? G3. A decent balance, plus Rhodesia masturbation? FN FAL. There are more options of course--SCAR, AR10, M14, etc. You should know the pros and cons of those by now.

If you're willing to spend a little more to feed it, and you want something else, consider other calibers. A bunch of those battle rifles are made in .30-06 variants as well, for more money.

However, for the criteria outlined above, assuming a pretty large budget, I'd buy an SVD. Hunting? Check, and it's better for it than most other rifles. Plinking? Check. LARPing SHTF? Holy fucking check. Semi-automatic for fending off bandits and such, but accurate enough for hunting, DM and low-level sniper roles. Reliable, relatively cheap to feed, and muh slaviboo fetish as a bonus.

On a smaller budget, I'd get a G3 or M14, depending on how much I wanted to hunt with it. But I think the Dragunov is the perfect answer to your criteria.

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>>33613213 the calibers you are referring to are 5.56 and Grendel, correct?

I want to thank you and all the other posters in this thread so far. You have all provided me with fresh points of view, or at least helped me reconsider ones I had abandoned before. Everyone here actually read the posts and there's been almost no shit posting. Great contributions. I knew there are still lots of people who just want to cut the BS and actually have a real conversation. Have another pic of my AR as it currently stands.

Don't get anything in commie corrosive flavor, it's a bitch to clean. I love my nugget, but every time I shoot it I'm spending 20-30minutes pulling patches through compared to my other guns pass white glove after 5 passes

>>33612107
Not op but that stock takes away from the m1a tingles I get.

>>33611661
What is the SCARs short coming that you see as a deal breaker? The fact is you can't have one rifle to do it all.

>>33612134
>PTRs are an expensive crapshoot.

They cost 1K how is that expensive?

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>>33613787
never spend more than $800 on a gun

>>33613819
How does it feel to be poor?

>>33613993
I have money because I don't spend it on overpriced guns

>>33613771
The fact that no matter how good polymer is it will degrade in 30 or 40 years time and won't be the best heirloom. Yes, I understand my lightweight requirement goes against this, which is why I'm trying to find the right compromise

>>33614057
To expand on what i mean, I'm ok with ARs because the major load bearing components are not polymer

>>33614029
Lol, 1 grand is a great price for a 308 rifle.

>>33613213
What rifle is this

>>33614084
Ok, but that goes for pistols too though right?

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>>33613700
The red rock is giving me some serious 90s flash backs.

For the AR nonsense .223/5.56 and then one of the following: 6.5 Grendel, 6.8spc, or 300blk.
For the two rifle route probably 308 or similar and .223/5.56.

Really you could go with anything that meets your needs in either situation. If you weren't worried about SHTF ammo commonality you could get into something like 6.5 CM and have pretty near a do all rifle in an AR-10. The big cons being barrel life and ammo costs. Pair your twist to your longer hunting cartridge and shoot lighter loads in 3 gun.
Anyway, I'm out of spitballs, good luck guy.

>>33614057
The SCAR is a lot more plastic than most realize.

>>33614321
I believe it is a Model 70 in a Mcmillan stock, not sure which models.

>>33611661
Used Winchester m70 in 30-06

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>>33611702
You just saved me the trouble of answering the OP.

>>33615604
But the 901 is shit

>>33611661
Without a doubt, I would do a SCAR 17S

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>>33614057
Replace the SCAR lower with one that takes KAC mags.
Replace the stock with whatever your hearts content.
Put a KDG mrex on it.

Youve now removed essentially all the plastic parts

>>33615636
Imperfect, definitely. That is to be expected of such a compromise.

That said, it comes reasonably close to meeting the OP's requirements.

>>33615750
I guess if you could get a few of the little adapter blocks, those things look fragile as hell.

>>33615782
Do you mean the sleeves for the magazine well, or are you talking about the Hydra?

>>33615719
I like this idea the best.

If you're going to choose one rifle over three rifles ideal for each situation, this seems the best.

>it also costs the same

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>>33615818
Not the mgi Hydra
The shitty adapter

>>33611661
AR in .308, lower milled from steel, upper regular aluminum, floated 20 inch tuned HBar (fluted if you're a pussy), carbine length adjustable gas, 4-20x scope, 3lb single stage trigger with very short pull, A2 style wood stock with removable leather cheek riser, wood pistol grip, wood covers for handguard.
Estimated price, $2000-3000

There. Heirloom quality rifle that does everything you need.

>>33612690
That should actually be a thing.

3 gun with pre-1900 or something technology. Bolt or leverguns, pump or break-action shotguns, and revolvers only.

I'd compete in that

>>33618986
Bolt, Break, and Wheel sounds like a neato way of pissing off fat women by stealing BBW from them.
Let's do it. Next nuggetfest, we doin a BBW comp.

>>33611661
Ar-15, 1:7 twist, 18" rifle lenght gas system, adjustable scope

>>33611661
Quit being a chode and get a .45-70 govt.

You hand load them to plink, or fly far and fast adn the damn things are heirlooms. You can load the round smokeless or black.

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>>33619065
>Fast
>Heirloom
Your delusional

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>>33611661
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/11/gign-adopts-cz-806-bren-2-7-62x39/

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/03/28/more-details-corrections-to-pakistani-trials-rifles/

>one rifle to do it all
Then it's going to perform a few things well, and everything else mediocre to good enough.

AR 15 platform, by far. If you're willing to keep extra parts lying around, you can tailor it to the mission you want

>semi auto
>5.56 NATO
>light
>"cheap"
>tacticool
>ammo will ALWAYS be available
>spare parts will ALWAYS be available
>Can be converted to any use scenario, including: Service rifle, SAW, DMR, PDW, 22 plinker, safe queen, LARP toy, fudd gun, etc.
>Can be home built so the gubmint can't register it
>Can be made CA or NY compliant until they start banning semi autos
>Easy access to info on how to convert to full auto in case of civil war or foreign invasion (just remember to give a call to the ATF first to let them know how many dogs you have)

>>33612143
>its expensive
That's why he told you about the steel case that's 25 cpr. Did you miss that in your rush to righteous indignation?

>>33615719
Best Idea so far.

>>33623538
I second this.

>>33623538
>>33626898
You're forgetting his requirement for hunting. Sure, you *can* hunt most game effectively with .223, but it's not advisable, and assuming OP's not a poacher it's not usually legal either.

Intermediate cartridges won't do for OP's requirements. If you're going to use the AR platform at least use something legal for hunting in the US. Either just say fuck it and go with AR10, or use some meme cartridge like .300 BLK (I have to admit it is versatile)