http://americanmilitarynews.com/201 7/04/report-china-has-de

>>33600301
I feel like the only way China would get involved is if they wanted to replace Kim Jong Un with a puppet. Kim is too unpredictable to have as a pseudo-ally and the Chinese would never want a NATO ally on their border.

I guess China is seeing Kim having a fit whenever he isn't on the news in the civilized world and decided that having NATO-friendly koreans on the border isn't as problematic.

They can always fortify the fuck out of the Yalu, it's hardly an indefensible border.

>>33600301
I honestly just want to see how the "haven't won a war in over 400 years" chinks manage to lose to north korea

>>33601257
In their defense us burgers for BTFO by them in the Korean War.

Wonder why all this starts happening after Trump and Jinping talk

>>33601360
nah trumanites are just desprate to hide the fact that they prevented macarthur from winning the war definitively and fixing their fuck up in china. democrats just make poor war presidents yet no one would ever declare what they did there a victory. by any measure even pyrrhic

>>33600301
Nope. http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/04/10/dod-media-reports-of-150000-troops-moving-on-the-korean-border-are-pure-fiction/

AMN isn't exactly good at checking their sources.

Might be interesting, tho, to see China annex Best Korea, force it's residents to stay there, and just try to administer the place without sending aid or anything.

>>33601388
I mean MacArthur would have solved the problem but in an extreme way. No side one the war, but China damn sure pushed us out of the North.

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>>33601388
>democrats just make poor war presidents

>>33601386
Could be a show of force to both America and the Koreas. Russia might also have a stake in this since they also have a border with North Korea.

>>33601388
>be macarthur
>1941
>o shit nips just sank all our ships
>1942
>o shit nips are here time to go take a vacation in australia
>A navy admiral is in charge of my troops now? Ok.
>1943
>do nothing
>1944
>I HAVE RETURNED
>1945
>ok nips build me a goddamn palace
>1946~1949
>TIME TO TEACH THESE YELLOW FUCKERS WHO THE BOSS IS
>1950
>Wow this former jap colony is getting uppity, time to fight!
>1951
>PAPA TRUMAN IM LOSING WAAAH I NEED NUKES WAAAH THESE DIRT FARMERS ARE SHOOTING AT ME WAAAH
>what do you mean I'm fired
The only mistake Truman made was appointing the fucker to command.
Also of note: Japan immediately started a golden age of economic development as soon as MacArthur was fired.

>>33600301
It'll be a diplomatic deal.

Wordt Koreans take most of the damage but still roll NK with thier american friends, China shores up thier boarder and this war that should have ended decades ago ends.

>>33601414
south korea would flip its fucking shit.

then daddy would have to come and administer the ban hammer on chinks inside best korea.

>>33601564
>>be macarthur
>>1941
>>o shit nips just sank all our ships
>>1942
>>o shit nips are here time to go take a vacation in australia
>>A navy admiral is in charge of my troops now? Ok.
>>1943
>>do nothing
>>1944
>>I HAVE RETURNED
>>1945
>>ok nips build me a goddamn palace
>>1946~1949
>>TIME TO TEACH THESE YELLOW FUCKERS WHO THE BOSS IS
>>1950
>>Wow this former jap colony is getting uppity, time to fight!
>>1951
>>PAPA TRUMAN IM LOSING WAAAH I NEED NUKES WAAAH THESE DIRT FARMERS ARE SHOOTING AT ME WAAAH
>>what do you mean I'm fired
>The only mistake Truman made was appointing the fucker to command.
>Also of note: Japan immediately started a golden age of economic development as soon as MacArthur was fired.


You left out:
>smashed WWI veterans looking for the money they are rightly owed, calls them commie subversives
>gets given an entire theater of war as a salve to his wounded butt
>bugs out with his staff officers and pile of ill-gotten cash leaving his men to be death-marched
>sacked for being literally insane and insubordinate
>looks forward to fighting space aliens in his farewell speech

fuck Macarthur

>>33601628
>>smashed WWI veterans looking for the money they are rightly owed
Yes, they were owned in 1945.

>>33601386
Both the US and China don't like angry Norks. If I had to guess I wouldn't be surprised if they worked out some deal where the US eliminates Kim and lets China deal with the aftermath to direct the country in the direction they see fit.

>>33601628

Space aliens? WAT?

>>33601733
Yes, really.

http://www.nationalcenter.org/MacArthurFarewell.html

>We speak in strange terms...of ultimate conflict between a united human race and the sinister forces of some other planetary galaxy

>>33600301
US bombs the shit out of the border with NK. Begins to move in. A those Military or those with money will run like hell to the Chinese border and try to cross. Millions trying to cross the river into China with no money, education or modern work experience.

China has already a population issue and it knows it. It does not want more of the worst it could possibly have. They are there to keep them in NK.

>>33601548
>cripple died on the job
>couldn't finish what he started
you posted the wrong Roosevelt, mate

>>33601388
you're a fucking moron.

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>>33601564
>>33601628
you literally have posted so much false information and interpretation of the war it would take literal weeks to figure out where you got your dozens of false references from

Is this how liberals construct their mythology. lies and obfuscation to the point of complete irreversible bleh.

neck yourself kid. you don't know shit about history

>>33601769
Sadly this is fake.

>>33601388
democrat authorized 2 nukes to be dropped on dense urban centers without any warning or evacuation chance. founding fathers were the definition of democrat

that said, "democrat" and "liberal" are 2 completely different political stances, democrat being just a less efficient way to do capitalism, and todays liberalism leaning heavily toward some kind of magical fantasy socialism but where they still get to have all the nice things that capitalism lets them have

>>33601769
and you instantly out yourself as the holder of a completely false world view. trumanites are fucking pathetic.

still sucking FDR dick despite her being a complete military incompitent and the least /k/ president in history for causing the US to be so completely unprepared for war.

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>>33601991
all this after losing to a country with a 17 times smaller economy at sea for a year due to the complete incompetence of democrats not only in preparing the american war machine of which they had literal decades to do, but the actions of democrat retards during the war. dems start wars and lose them. republicans fight in them and win. read a book aspie

>>33601628
Many of the Navy Admirals who worked with him in WW2 privately felt he was insane too.

>>33602176
where the fuck does all this fake shit about macarthur come from. who in the world is so mad at him that they managed to so poorly educate the layman?

>>33601548

>Lets give a bunch of shit to the Soviets instead of letting them Die off.

>>33602133
>Andrew Jackson May (June 24, 1875 – September 6, 1959) was a Kentucky attorney, an influential New Deal-era politician, and chairman of the House Military Affairs Committee during World War II, infamous for his rash disclosure of classified naval information that resulted in the losses of up to ten American submarines and up to 800 sailors, and his subsequent conviction for bribery. May was a Democratic member of United States House of Representatives from Kentucky during the Seventy-second to Seventy-ninth sessions of Congress.
kek why are ameicans so fucking worthless

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>>33601548
>FDR
>Good president by any stretch of the imagination

>>33601548
>US was completely unprepared for war despite seeing in 7 years away and spending retarded amounts on military yet getting nothing out of it but lining the pockets of his teamster buddies
>ignored Intel on pearl harbor intentionally getting thousands of american kids killed
>cabinet was infested with communists and spies to the point of being worthless for foreign policy
>fuck ugly cripple
>coward
>died

gross

>>33602231
>kek why are democrats so fucking worthless

FTFY

>>33601843
>>33602222
>>33602264
>>33602286

The amount of butthurt naziboos replaying to this just confirms FDR was great

>>33601923
West Point's website also has it
>http://www.usma.edu/admissions/SitePages/macarthur.aspx

>>33602222
Quads of truth, the digits have spoken

Those Chinese troops are on the border to keep the Nork refugees out of China.

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>>33602222
this

>>33602636
You realize we had the cold war right after WWII right?

>>33601388
>democrats just make poor war presidents

Like Republicans, the ones who frequently like to start wars, are any better

>>33601923
Sadly you are fucking ignorant.

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>Trump makes deal with Xi
>time to put Kim in his place
>China masses on border
>Trump sends warships to NK
>they wait until April 15th, the Day of the Sun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Sun
>Norks try and launch ballistic missile and test nuclear weapons for celebration
>nope
>US ships shoot them down and launch a strike on all nuclear weapon compounds
>China invades and seizes pyongyong
>China takes control of Best Korea

You know its gonna happen.

>>33601991
>s without any warning or evacuation chance
but that's wrong tho.

>>33600301
better question: if this happens again do we get a sequel series to M*A*S*H?

>>33603962
The industry loves them some reboots and this'd be a perfect opportunity to do one as a thinly veiled GWOT allegory.

>>33603922
Entirely possible:
> China's customs department has issued an official order telling trading companies to return their North Korean coal cargoes, said a trading source at Dandong Chengtai Trade Co., the biggest buyer of coal from the isolated country.

http://www.reuters.com/article/china-north-korea-coal-idUSL3N1HI2PB

Total embargo on coal from NK. They might also be annoyed that while his missiles can't reach the US with a nuclear warhead, they can reach Beijing. A vassal needs to know his place.

>>33601360
China took 60% losses when they had the enemy surrounded. Let that one sink in. China in the modern era has been a paper tiger and will always be a paper tiger. They couldn't even beat a Vietnamese army that had just been ravaged by the US for almost a decade into submission. Vietnam didn't even bother to avert any troops from their occupation of Cambodia. The VPA did the majority of the fighting.

>>33602636
>be elitist cousin fucker from powerful political family
>allow us government to be infested by communists
>set up safety net that will haunt future americans
>cause a recession inside of a depression
>get butthurt about your unconstitutional policies you try and pack the SCOUTS
>get BTFO by congress
>ceed half of europe to a homicidal maniac with a kill counter higher than hitler could ever dream of
>give said maniac the equipment he needs to grow stronger and cause future global problems
>die in office because you had to be elected president 4 times, thanks cult of personality
>constitutional amendment is passed because you were elected 4 times
>economists still debate your policy to this day
>many say it wasn't great, some make the claim it prolonged the depression

Yea, real winner that FDR.

last thing china needs is a flood of dumb refugees who will suck up more resources and put more strain on their government, not to mention most likely having American interests right up in their face.

If anything, if this were ever going to go down, china's going to do something and retain a buffer. Whether this means assassination or some other convoluted action, they'd be mega retarded if they don't do anything. Defending Kim's actions can only go so far, like dropping a nuke on somebody. China won't be able to step in and say much since that'd be condemnation from nearly everyone.

>>33604034
I'd watch it

>>33604040
>set up safety net that will help future Americans
fixed that for you
either you take care of the homeless or you prevent them from being homeless
would you rather Laqueesha and Travonto collect their checks in peace and stay in the ghetto or would you rather they roam around your neighborhood and still get fed and clothed for free and be even more mad? because those are your options, you cannot get rid of these people because this is not genetic
some people are born disabled and some people are born moochers, and you can't get rid of either one, and sometimes you really can't tell them apart or they'll even overlap

>>33604126
>fixed that for you
Social security was a piss poor method of doing so based on the assumption that there would be more people to pay into it than taking from it. Because more and more people are taking from it while less people are paying into it now it will tailspin out of control and be another nagging issue to our budget. Disability wasn't covered until 1954 and welfare has done more harm to the poor black communities than good. The same goes with food stamps which were the brainchild of LBJ.

Social Security has only expanded and will continue to expand.

>take care of the homeless or prevent them from being homeless
We have done a terrible job at both.

>>33600301
who knows?

China could conquer all of korea with its massive army.

>>33602200
It's a literal WWII era meme

>>33601733
The referenced quote never happened, but he did caution against the distant possibility of interplanetary war. He seemed more concerned about the likelihood of a third world war, though.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/macarthur.asp

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>>33607407
>snopes
no longer a valid source

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>>33600301
Speaking about Korea. Russian cruiser with supersonic anti-ship missiles just arrived to Busan.
I just saw it on local news.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2017/04/11/0200000000AEN20170411007100315.html

>>33607429
Since when? I don't keep up with internet drama.

>>33607432
How is that relevant to anything? "Busan" sounds like some middle eastern plae and Russia has no ticket to the south china theatre anyway.

>>33607450
>American education

>>33607450
Busan is port city in South Korea.
Read the fucking article.

>>33607465
What's a russian missile ship doing in South Korea?

>>33607479
I don't know. Taking a fucking vacation? Use your head numbskull.

>>33607479
Gee, I don't know.

Maybe they feeling kinda nervous because of all this shenanigans around Korea.

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>>33602636
>muh naziboos

Anything else, you little queer faggot?

>>33607489
You are missing my point of interest. South Korea is an american ally. Russia appearing in an SK port is like finding another man in your son's room. It's very suspisious that SK would allow russia near its waters.

>>33607432
So, Korea allowed to park Russian warship on the ROK Navy main base?
What the fuck? Do the feel super confident or what?

>>33607508
Well, unlike Japan, Korea is US ally, not a 51st state.
We have pretty good relationships with Russia, and I see nothing wrong if ship of friendly county paying a visit to ROKN base.

China getting ready to pull a Czechoslovakia on North Korea, with US support, what a time to be alive!

>>33607508
>It's very suspisious that SK would allow russia near its waters.
Pure retard.

>>33607524
It's just a port. It's not rare for american warships to dock at Vladivostok too.

>>33607565
Vladivostok sounds like a russian place.

>>33604034
There would only be the problem of the sensitive leftis taking offence with a Klinger like character.
It would be hard to get the same feel as the original.

>>33604376
>Because more and more people are taking from it while less people are paying into it now it will tailspin out of control and be another nagging issue to our budget.
This. Take a good fucking look at the Puerto Rican wefare system. Last I checked they had 60% of the population on it with 40% working whose wealth was then redistributed to these caco fucks in projects. Nothing pisses me off more than seeing them with brand new iphones, luxury goods and fucking booze that my fucking tax dollars had to cover for them. Either create a strict system or throw it into the trash.

>>33604376
>Social Security has only expanded and will continue to expand.
And it will be the downfall of the US.
Just as it is for sweden.

>>33601639
And that justifies Macarthur running them down with cavalry and fucking tanks on the White House lawn?

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>>33601230

This

No way China would allow the loss of a satellite state

>>33600301
>google PLA
> click on Northern Theater Command
> google Northern Theater Command strength
> normal strength: 4 corps
> google corp numbers: 20k to 40k

so literally fucking clickbait. nice

So.. it has begun

>>33600301

They always do this when North Korea misbehaves.

>>33601991
>without any warning or evacuation chance

>>33608229
Not this time comrade, something has to be done

>>33600301
Good.

Norks need to learn not to talk to Americans as equals as long as they are China's bitch.

>>33607508
Sailor here, Russian naval ships are regularly in Busan, don't be an idiot.

It's basically guaranteed that China will invade NK again if USA goes to war with NK. China will never EVER let their buffer state go. They think it's a matter of life or death for the communist party.

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>the US '''navy''' thinks it can compete with this

>>33607592
Because it is? Are you retarded?

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>>33600301

>>33603922
Imma laugh so hard if the Chinks get their shit pushed in by the Norks

So if China invades NK to protect its buffer state, does that mean they're acting with the US or defending the Norks from the US?

>>33607479
Could be worse, it could be a Russian gunship.

>>33600301
Honestly with that many troops on the border it's possible they'll be the ones invading and installing a new regime while our navy provides support.

It sucks that Korea would still be divided but it beats WW3.

>>33610414
"Countries have no friends, only interests."

They're protecting themselves no matter what, they dont like a nuke armed NK but they also dont like a US alligned unified Korea.

>>33607433
Since they said that the /k/ bait and switch of MDA didn't happen.

>>33601678
>us does most of the hard work
>China does some and gets the gains

No, but a decent idea is US amasses troops in obvious preparation for invasion.
China offers to support NK and moves troops into the country.
China suddenly topples NK gov and installs there own.

>>33610472

Just like how US started acting up only because NK is starting to develop missiles that can reach West US.

Basically both Koreas have no say in this whatsoever.

>>33610569
Would that be better or worse for the US?

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Looks like Drumpf is at it again.

>>33601548
>dies before the war ends

>>33607592
Kill yourself

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>>33602636
>naziboos

Just because your dear ol' grand pappy was gullible enough to butcher whites and Japanese, doesn't mean you have to follow in his scum enabling footsteps.

>>33613486
Fuck off JIDF

>>33600301
China might want a new puppet and swarm north Korea.

>>33613486
Japanese were scum though. Not white either.

>>33600301
Norks are about to get BTFO

We may actually see a reunified Korea.

>>33613504
>when /leftypol/ calls anybody JIDF
wtf I loves Jews now ex dee

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>>33610268

>>33604036
great news for me, since I work at a coal mine and my state suffered drastically under kang nigger's policies.

>>33613112
I love my President.

guys... what if...

what if we support a Chinese invasion with US air support and missiles? And... and... work... TOGETHER...?

>>33614111
is that not the plan?

>>33610268
a yacht?

How long until the carrier group arrives?

>>33613957
>muh underdog

>>33614221
That is the plan. China is as sick of that pudgy little cunt as everyone else is, and they're right on his doorstep.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/china-threatens-bomb-north-koreas-nuclear-facilities-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-l

We should have taken out the norks back during the Clinton/Bush years.

I'm glad that it's looking like it's finally going to happen.

I'm curious about what opening moves the US has at their disposal, the obvious priority to me would be neutralizing any launch platforms. Something like the scud hunts in the Golf War, this of course depends on what China is doing helping Norks or watching Norks.

>>33615781
They'll be in theater by Thursday, Friday at the latest.

>>33610476
>the /k/ bait
>switch of MDA.
What did he mean by this?

>>33600301
Nice fake news

What's going to happen to Seoul? Are they prepared for the arty that's going to be coming down on them?

>>33615948
>CAP at DMZ
>Missile strikes on C&C... Cut off comms to command structure. I think we usually use Tomahawks for this. This also weakens their anti-air capability, assuming they have an integrated air defense system.
>SEAD strikes (air launched HARM missiles) with FORCAP... Not sure if any of our stealth platforms can fire HARMs so they'll need escorts.
>TARCAP over DMZ as the norks will likely open up with artillery immediately. That will need to be taken out.
>Once the air defense system is relatively neutralized, we crater their runways/take out airbases with B2s.
>Fighter sweeps take out any remaining nork air assets.

Essentially, air dominance is key for the way we fight. Without it, we can't SCUD hunt without unacceptable losses.

>>33600301
>zero invasion forces
>shock and awe x1000
>minimal friendly casualties
>Chink hoards die trying to take capital
>we get two birds with one stone
>laugh an communist incompetence
>watch president talk shit on Twitter

I can accept this.

>

>>33615902
>http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/china-threatens-bomb-north-koreas-nuclear-facilities-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-l
>article by Tyler Durden

>>33616134
All articles are by Tyler Durden on there.

>>33616122
>SEAD aircraft
That's got to be like the shittiest duty to pull, what aircraft does the Carl Vinson air wing have at it's disposal?

>>33616208
Any of the strike fighter squadrons can rock HARMs but I'm guessing they would use the EA-18G since it has AESA radar and a shitload of jamming capability. It also carriers HARMs.

>France surrenders when China declares war on North Korea.

>>33601991
>that said, "democrat" and "liberal" are 2 completely different political stances, democrat being just a less efficient way to do capitalism, and todays liberalism leaning heavily toward some kind of magical fantasy socialism but where they still get to have all the nice things that capitalism lets them have
>Propaganda effort from the Cold War still being confused for legitimate philosophy
>2017
I thought cuckservatives new shtick was "Economic Nationalism". Isn't Trump officially the figure head of the GOP now?

I thought China and Norks are allies

>>33600301
not happening, this has happened every year forever.

>>33600301

Honestly for all the "china doesn't want a nato/US ally on their border" talk it's more likely they'd rather have a productive and diverse trading relationship with a unified Korea

and double plus, they can be re-united quickly by their shared dislike of japan

>>33604126

Germany did. And they came it stronger from it in spite of being bombed to hell and divided in two for 50 years in response.

>>33600301

>China invades NK
>NK demonstrates its nuclear capabilities by turning Beijing into STALKER-land

>>33607699
Can we have a hot trap type this time?

And hot lips would get knocked up and go home.

>>33616582
I kek'd that was unexpected

>>33618088
Stop teasing me like that senpai