https://www.full30.com/video/5c397e 7e93055902a5745a024bca8c

at least it isn't strictly in .22

Why single out the mag when ar fags shit on anything not plastic?

>>33563139
>silly
>plastic mag

Get fucked you retarded fucking faggot. You clearly don't have the capacity to appreciate what HMG is doing.

>>33563139
They will be shit.
Protip if it's being shilled this hard by Ian and Karl then they have something to gain from it

>>33563246
Fuck I though I had filtered your trip.

>>33563246
>They will be shit.
I don't think their intention is to make a rifle that resembles you

They won't be fully authentic, but they'll probably work well.

Youtube version is up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBD7vwcsFgk

>>33563139
>HMG is starting production on its silly plastic mag StG.
heh somebody is poor.

>>33563139
>>33563246
Kill yourselves, you're obviously too autistic to appreciate what they're doing by making a working repro.

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>>33563477
Nah, I'm just not in the US.
I understand why they went with polymer mags, and if I could get an HMG StG I think I would.

Personally, I'd much rather have an affordable repro FG-42 though. The StG isn't too attractive to me because it's so similar in concept to all modern intermediate rifles.
SMG Guns' FG is way too expensive, I'd rather have the same action in a more affordable, modernized gun kinda like what HMG is doing with this.

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>>33563512
>jerry autismo guns
>affordable
>ever

>>33563582
it's just a lewis gun action really

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>>33563696
>semi-auto LMG
>affordable
>ever

>>33563767
RPKs were $499 just three years ago

Benefit of the doubt. Ian and Karl will be putting it through shooting matches and a mud test, so that'll be interesting. I wouldn't buy one of the first ones, but I'm keeping it on the radar.

>plastic mags
I considered buying this once upon a time.

>>33563512
SMG had to rework a lot of aspects of that design. Hell, the originals had straight-walled chambers because they just didn't have the resources to actually develop that aspect of the design. Those costs have to be recuperated.

>>33563246
With the support Ian is giving these obscure weapons companies with questionable designs it's hard to think he's doing anything other than future farming for episodes of forgotten weapons in 2057

>>33563246
>Not realizing that Ian has a raging boner for insanely stupid designs that never make it past a few dozen produced

He has a chance to actively play a part in creating more forgotten weapons. He's playing the long game and ensuring content down the road.

>>33564217
its a heavy walled ak with a longer barrel, no fucking shit.

>>33563139
im buying one, ill let the poorfags cry while i play with my repro.

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>>33565673

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reminder that some fuck on Weaponeer was able to make an MP44 looklalike THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE AN MP44

http://www.weaponeer.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23018&PN=1

HMG a shit

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>>33565673

>>33565683
Tbh I like the lover receiver better
Only thing I dislike is the trigger and mag catch

>>33565785
>Tbh I like the lover receiver better
jesus fuckign Christ

>>33565752
>7.62x25

>>33565804
Sorry I forgot to add a trigger warning

>>33565527
Well excuse me fucktard, if someone says something wrong it's best if they get corrected

>>33567854
you didnt correct him tho really, their cheap because they are just an ak parts kit with reinforcements and a longer US made barrel, so no fucking shit they are cheap.


thats like if you said "oh man cars are expensive" and i said "buy a POS 90's saturn."

good job.

>>33563246
You were a medic, right?

>>33563512
I agree with you completely about the FG42 thing.

Please HMG, maybe you and SMG can team up and make a affordable and conceptually authentic (while with modern options) FG42!

>>33569671
>no semi-auto LMGs are cheap
>*posts semi-auto LMG that is cheap*
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lol, gas yourself fagarooni

>>33564302
Motherfucker, mist reworking can be done in your head. I don't doubt that the gun is made to be worth 5g, but I doubt it would be because of super costly redesign.

If anything, some redesigning while maintaining the overall structure, manual of arms/use, with modernizing what makes sense would Save Money.

Ala HMG STG is sub-2g and the SMG FG is 5g.

I care about an authentic action that is strengthened by modern mechanical knowledge.

Some stuff on these old guns is just dumb in the same way as
>thinking bleeding George Washington dry was healthy

>>33565673
>Sturmgewehr for ants

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>>33569671
>their cheap because they are just an ak parts kit with reinforcements and a longer US made barrel
Hahaha you are so fucking wrong holy shit.

>>33569741
You are wrong, but you started out right.

Other anon bbtw, don't be so bullheaded you obviously see things differently but the AK clone isn't a good example of why other LMG semis are expensive. If anything it just proves the current rule by being such an exception.

Geesh! Do you care more about getting to the heart of why we can't have cheap semi LMGs or bicker over a technical exception on a internet protocult creation and appreciation weapon board?

>>33569797
Anon are you going to deny the RPK is an LMG??

>>33569818
I am not. It is still a very obvious exception for a number of obvious reasons that don't really apply to other LMG semis we can buy.

>>33569828
>I am not
Good I am glad we can both agree then

>>33563308
>they won't be fully authentic
They are barely authentic, they are lucky they designed it to have some parts interchangeability otherwise it would just be another piece of irrelevant trash, such as yourself.
>>33564323
>>33564550
I thought thats why he was getting thousands on Patreon? Oh wait, its just another ploy to get your jewbucks.
>>33569692
No, I didn't serve.

>>33563245
>You clearly don't have the capacity to appreciate what HMG is doing.

It's not that hard to understand.
They're trying to make money off people who like lookalike trash and wehraboos (often one and the same people who usually can't tell the difference between even the most basic basic Mauser variants if their life depended on it, but will spontaneously ejaculate over a 10/22 MP40 or StG44 chassis).
But hey, they're parting idiots with their money and making new guns in the process, so more power to them.

>>33569818
LMG is a term any military can arbitrarily apply. It doesn't imply they have mechanical similarities.

RPKs could have been storm guns if only used as such.

Many LMGs have shared mechanical, if also unique, aspects that make semi versions expensive to the civilian market.

Something that is mechanically and essentially an AK, the arguably most prolific forearm humanity will ever birth, is gonna have some cost benefits.

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>>33564217
>>33567854
>>33569741
>>33569818
Nope, still wrong, an RPK isn't its own platform, it's just a configuration of the AK infantry rifle platform. A real LMG would be something like an RPD, M249, DP-28, MG42, etc.

>>33569772
>literally an AK with a long barrel pressed on

Justify your purchase however you want

>>33569863
Also, if you REALLY needed it explained this simply, yoi probably are not as fully smart as you think you are.

T. Anon from 4chan

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>>33569890
Oh anons, you're just too stupid. You can't even tell what the other anon is arguing, with his objectively incorrect assumptions about the AES-10B and the origins of its components. the other anon is objectively wrong. <3

>>33569919
You making a few generalized statements and platitudes doesn't prove you right. It's an AK semiauto receiver with a long barrel pressed on, and a carry handle tacked on for good measure.

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>>33569919
Oh, my bad. It's a long-barreled AK with a carry handle. Woooow.

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Put money down. Cancelled at a year mark. Sad i won't have it but I couldn't wait. Now I'm just waiting for them to ship so I can get ok money for my ammo.

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>>33569852
It's like you don't know the HMG STG's action is the same but made to actually last.

THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. Honestly, form should follow function for me and I think even the fake stamping is stupid. But I don't care about stupid firm if essential function AND the firm that follows that is correct.

Shit, I'd be all about even more mkdernized with firm following function, looks on these STGs same as I would (mostly) like
>pic related

>side by side comparison with the original reveals the rifle is only superficially similar
why did they even bother?

>>33569890
Actually the RPK has mostly specialized components that are not compatible with a typical AK

Parts that can be readily swapped out are the FCG, BCG, pistol grip frontsight post, rearsight, muzzle device, and that's about it

Everything else is made with the different proportions of its receiver and barrel in mind

>>33569969
Firm should be form everywhere. I never notice the overactive-autocorrections.

>>33569962
do not load their ammo into a p64, actual maks only

dem buldged cases, wew senpai thought i was going to die

>>33569982
>FCG, BCG, pistol grip frontsight post, rearsight, muzzle device, and that's about it
So, basically everything except the front trunnion?

>>33569831
I feel like maybe you're pretending to be facetious. Or dumb. On the internet. Why?

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>>33569946
Anon, I don't think you're very good at reading! How sad! I'm afraid you and your compatriot are just too inept to follow a simple conversation and don't know when you're factually incorrect. Do you even know what that earlier pic entails and why it definitively means the AES-10B is not a parts kit gun with a US made barrel strapped on? I'm not holding my breath over the possibility you do! :^

Maybe next time don't say things that are flat-out wrong and then try to defend them! ;^

>>33570029
>AES-10B is not a parts kit gun with a US made barrel strapped on
>Maybe next time don't say things that are flat-out wrong and then try to defend them! ;^
>m-my b-barrel's not US made, that will show him
>getting this insecure over small details
kekarooni

>>33569969

What you're saying makes no sense.
If you don't care about whether it's even remotely authentic as long as it works, what the fuck is even the point of buying a repro StG? You might as well go buy another AR or AK.
If it's just about impressing normies on the range, then a GSG StG will do the same job for $400.

>>33570052
post your AR :^

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>>33570052
:^

I wish a mod would fucking delete this utter shithole of a thread jesus christ

>>33570029
I have no idea why you're making weird emoji faces, but you're wrong, and you keep making non-statements because you have no real points to make.

>>33570071
Lost it in a boating accident
>>33570072
?

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>>33570093
>but you're wrong
Silly stupid anon! The barrel is a CHF Cugir production made from new and surplus RPK parts! So how could the reason it being so cheap is because it's made from reinforced AK parts kits and a US made barrel? Isn't that just a quackin' crazy comment to make, especially considering how easy it is to prove it wrong? So, I guess I'm right through and through! Silly anon! :^

>>33570121
Oops!

The barrel is a CHF Cugir production and the rest of the rifle is made from new and surplus RPK parts!*

Now I'm the silly one!

>>33570121
Got it, you're either drunk as piss or you're a filthy weeb. Either way, a know-nothing

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>>33570138
Poor, stupid anon! He's so dumb he can't even tell how he's wrong even when it's laid out for him! Dumb, stupid anon!

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>>33570121
>>33570133
>anon says that RPK's are cheap because they're based off of inexpensive AK's
>HURR IT'S NOT THE EXACT KIND OF AK YOU SAID IT WAS ANON BTFO
>>33570159
>If I'm condescending, people will think I'm right!
Literally not an argument

>>33570159
Oh. I somehow didn't see your trip the first few posts. Disappointing, but it explains everything.

Fuck full30 AKA shillville made
by that POS Mac
Only go there is you have a ad, and view count blocker enabled.

>>33570209
>anon says that RPK's are cheap because they're based off of inexpensive AK's
Lying!
>>33570214
>Disappointing
Not as disappointing as silly anons who can't handle being wrong and just try to insult their way out of a pickle! ;^

>>33563246
>they have something to gain from it
You mean besides a semi-auto StG44 clone that uses HK trigger packs?

>>33570248
You do a fantastic job of ruining every thread you post in

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>>33570248
Wrong.

>>33570209
Nice pic that come straight off your favorite subreddit?

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>>33570209
>Steal MilSurpDude's look.jpg
>no Undertale shit

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>>33570290
>being this butthurt in a b8 thread about being wring

>>33570331
put your trip back on, you're not fooling anyone

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>>33570290
I do it to faggy threads that are filled with posters who deserve it. <3
>>33570302
He's clearly not the creative type, but still, what a squandered opportunity.

>ITT; taking the piss and people too stupid to realize when others are taking said piss

>>33563245
t. assmad hmg employee

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>>33570350
How do I be this cool when losing an internet argument to arguably the most retarded tripfag here?

>>33570393
REEEE STOP BEING ME ANON

>>33570353
>projecting onto random namefags and attention whoring on a Canadian Anime Chat Room
How sad is your life that you've sunk this low?

>>33570353

Is the old guy supposed to. be Asriel dreamer undercover?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4zARJecfrc&spfreload=10

Someone post the webm of it jamming when Ian shot it.

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>>33570428
>Is the old guy supposed to. be Asriel dreamer undercover?
That was probably the most triggering thing said to me in this thread so far.

>>33570393
>losing an argument

So telling him his semiauto ak with a long barrel isn't an rpk is losing? Goodness, I guess I must have lost then

>>33570442
nice tattoo you fucking faggot

>>33569969

stamping bubble ridges really does strongly improve the rigidity of pressed sheet metal parts at an excellent weight efficiency.

>>33570445
Oh no, the silly, stupid anon still can't even tell what topic is being discussed in an argument! Sad, sad, sad!

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>>33570454
Here's the one on my other arm.

>>33570460
You "rpk" is just an ak with a long barel. No matter how many times you call me names, it won't change that fact

>>33570491
He still can't comprehend it! What a poor, sad anon! Bye bye anon! :^

>>33570460
I would like to believe that you're trolling. Because that locution, used unironically, is evocative of a femboy furfag with mental issues. What a sad existence that would be!
>>33570465
> those dimensions
It's probably not his.

>>33570442

I'm still learning senpai, I want to be like you someday.

I never played undertake but I like the music, Starting to get into Vore

>>33570511
>Starting to get into Vore
Weak! You're not big-league until you're jerking it to the shota goatson sucking off his big-dicked futa mom!

>>33570511
>looking up to CumSlurpDude
This better be ironic.

>>33569996
Fore stock, barrel,

>>33570540
Butt stock, receiver, FSB, RSB too

Also couldn't swap dust covers, so might as well add that too

>>33570067
>If you don't care about whether it's even remotely authentic as long as it works
I did not say or imply that.

I said that function was most important, the function parts of this are the same but made to not die quickly. The rest of the gun is just fluff to me.

You're comparison to tgat .22 lr is funny because it is the antithesis of everything I said I wanted. It is "correct" on the outside and wrong on the inside.

The HMG is "wrong" on the outside but everything I would want out of the inside. Authentic function of the inner workings, brought up to date in terms of demanded lifespan but mechanically correct.

I think you will find that many gear heads feel the same way about reproduction hotrods.

>>33570534
Slightly, but I genuinely want to get into undertale fandom/lore

>>33569885
MG-42 is an MMG tho

>>33570667

GPMG

"Great show once again, thank you guys! The part about the CETME basically being a good platform got me thinking about how this -or maybe some other firearm- could have been a European alternative to the AR. What I mean is that, had a firearms culture been allowed in Europe like there has always been one in the USA, a similar development as with the AR could have taken place here. Just goes to show how much progress gets nipped in the bud by governments imposing restrictions on people about what they may or may not do and are allowed to invest their brain cells in. Obviously, where ownership and even posession is heavily restricted, there is no room for tinkering or serious individual innovation. Dear Americans, learn from this, and oppose such restriction wherever you can. I am thinking silencers specifically, but this is not even limited to firearms." - ArmchairWarrior

Full 30 has some decent comments.

>>33570597
Don't. Undertale's lore isn't really that complex or compelling, and the fandom is becoming very inbred and stale because there has been no new official content since the game's release.
It's a fun little game that had the misfortune of becoming an autism magnet, a la FNAF, Sonic, etc.

>>33570679
I thought it was just GMG, to be honest.

>>33570501
why the fresh fuck do you word every single one of your posts like you're a poorly written anime villain? Are you mentally deficient?

>>33570455
Why, I guess I hope that HMG was trying to go for the best structural state for their parts, as opposed to directly copying the original even if they knew a better function way that was working off the same mechanical principle(s).

>>33570758
"Why" should be "well"

>>33570442
Some time later
>this was a bad idea

>>33570682
Fuck yeah

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>>33569699
Dubs of do!

Dew it
___S
___M
HMG!
____!

>>33569755
You'd be surprised how quickly costs run up for engineering. One company I worked at was charging clients 90 bucks per engineering hour on my project (granted, the client maintained ownership of all drawings, etc). I'm not saying that it accounts for the entirety of the high price, but it's most definitely a significant factor.

>>33570748
Probably because gullible morons like you can't help but reply

>>33570233
>Fuck full30
Youtube is demonetizing all gun related content. Full30 might be the only game in town soon.

>>33571787
I think their investment is still mostly elsewhere.

>>33565683
Kraut space stamping

>>33563238
because they look nothing like the originals

>>33570233
>Fuck full30
>Chris Bartocci uploads video on AT MP40 on youtue
>video is demonized
>The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
>video gets deleted 30 minutes later
Yeah as much as I hate MAC they re backup for gun content.

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>>33573190
>The HMG™ Sturmgewehr is a modern interpretation of the classic StG 44 bringing together the classic function and form of the original, while also making the firearm accessible and shoot-able…in a rifle caliber!

It's not a replica, my dude

>>33573190
Its a reproduction,they can do whatever the fuck they want.

>>33573331
>>33573322
IF IT DOESN'T EMULATE THE ORIGINAL WEAPON, THEN WHAT'S THE POINT

>>33573360
Uh, it's pretty similar and also cool.

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If I buy one do I have to pay everything up front or do I have to just put something down on the website?

>>33569993
What are you talking about?

>>33573360
Its all explained in the Q&A there are like 4 videos of it now and the initial 3 with Ian explaining how and why.
>Muh plastic mags
Doesn't hold up because they said once they get production rolling and get some money they will set up stamping machines for steel mags.

The fact that some people just love to hate and people that are just ignorant about the topic makes this thread all but necessary.

>>33573379
>pretty similar
lower receiver, handguard, magazine catch, magazine well, magazine dimensions, magazine material, buttstock retainer, recoil spring, bolt carrier, fire selector/safety location and design
>also cool
debatable

>>33573404
Okay what about the lower receiver, handguard, magazine catch, magazine well, magazine dimensions, magazine material, buttstock retainer, recoil spring, bolt carrier, fire selector/safety location and design though? Are saying they aren't the exact same?? Have you considered the fact that it's not a replica?

>>33573425
You are arguing with a kid,cut it out and go do something else.
Jesus Christ.

>>33573434
Yeah you're right, I should have known better.

>>33573403
>Its all explained in the Q&A there are like 4 videos of it now and the initial 3 with Ian explaining how and why.
>just watch literally five and a half hours of video then you'll understand

>Doesn't hold up because they said once they get production rolling and get some money they will set up stamping machines for steel mags.
I'll believe it when I see it, if they do that, it'll be one less mark against them, but I still have major issues with it
ex, even with metal mags, the mags will look off because they are way too long front to back

> Are saying they aren't the exact same?
I'd say that it's hard to argue that the design is pretty similar when there are major differences internally and externally

>>33573434
>it's not a replica
then what's the point?
it's cool because it's "like" and StG-44 but it has significant internal and external differences?
why is it cool?

>>33573484
>I have the information source
>cant be bothered to watch I am here to shitpost

>>33573360
The action is as similar to the original as any sane person could want. That's what most of us cared about the most. It looks as similar to the original all as I'd expect in a newer model of something original. Like a throwback.

Not quite like a prowler or excalibur, but maybe similar appeal for some people.

>>33573484
Are you so autistic that your really don't think they are similar at all? Christ, dude.

I bought a fucking combat load of magazines for shit's and grins. Do you NAZIs think I should switch out to the metal?

Let's be honest, the plastic will probably function better, right?

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>>33569699
Man I'd love an affordable modernized FG.
Polymer furniture, weird old eccentricities (like mag doors) removed or replaced, .308 or 8mm.
Actually, any rifle round. A "Mini-42" in 5.56 would be really cool.

>>33574616
Also, reminder that the SMG FG-42 apparently shoots fantastically.

https://www.full30.com/video/f33231c7bbff5febfcc8d6d1ff6d9f44

>>33570591
>I think you will find that many gear heads feel the same way about reproduction hotrods.
Good analogy. That's exactly how I feel.

>>33573551
just for the high cap 5.56?

>>33575766
/300

But yeah. Each is 50 rounds.

I was pretty pro-plastic until a recent range trip showed my magazines that were "thermamold" plastic caused double feeds and even my shitty mil mags didn't.

So. I guess leaving them loaded, which is my rule, can hurt all but the best plastic mags.

Shit, I might just ask them to keep my money for all but I'm mag. Then I test that one plastic mags, post results here on /k/ and then order one metal and do the same.

I want more of whatever one works best, bit I will want metal I think also (regardless) because.

Metal

>>33577018
>I'm mag
One mag*

>>33563139
Aside from the shitty looking wood it looks close enough.

>>33577018
Forgot to say, I believe the feed-lips on the thermold started to spread open/apart from staying loaded.

The plastic ones from HMG better not do that.

>>33563139
those magazines look really cheap and shitty for costing $30

>>33574616
>>33574616
Ok ok, wtf is that pic

>>33570442
>>33570465

The absolute cringiest shit I have seen in my life. . . I'm absolutely perplexed someone can be that brazenly and unabashedly autistic

>>33565683
Okay, i apreciate that some people are upset it doesnt look the same but

Top: we have no fucking idea how to pin the trigger group, lets just fucking rivet everything so it wont break
Bottom: We are using an HK trigger group, so we dont need these crazy pins.

>>33569843
>No, I didn't serve.
in the american army, that is.

>>33577990
Modernized FG42, all new production as far as I know, no historical relics butchered.

>>33573360
what's the point of modernizing anything then?

>>33573484
>why are they cool?
Because they're a semiautomatic rifle that fires intermediate rounds that a civilian can get with 0 hassle?

whats with all the fucking tripfags

>>33579323
WHERE

HOW

>>33580044
Germany
Sport System Dittrich builds em

>>33581852
So, unobtanium.