last thread >>33555115 US launches attack on Syria: h

It's never happening. Pol is always wrong.

>>33559105
That many Tomahawks, mostly likely precision guided in by drones, means the base is very likely beyond repair.

>>33559114
No, the neocons will start crying about how we don't have boots on the ground yet.

Fucking CNN is already saying that we need to take it further and start putting troops on the ground in Syria

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Where do you think those 59 cruse missiles landed?

Oh fer fuck's sake...

I guess all the people flipping out at Trump firing missiles at Syria are too young to remember the 90s, when it seemed like Bill Clinton shot a few cruise missiles at some Middle Eastern shithole every few weeks or so to try to get public attention away from one of his innumerable scandals.

This is no big deal, folks.

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>>33559114

>tfw your old ship was one of the two

Give 'em hell, Ross

>>33559147
Its funny to see how CNN and nevertrumpers praise him while his loyal supporters are imploding online right now. Would love to see Alex's reaction atm

>>33559173
Hope it sinks.

>>33559114
where do you think you are
???
you have to go back

---> https://tumblr.com

>>33559114

Time for a cozy happening thread

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>>33559186

Hope the Russians Anti-ship missiles are better than their S400s

>>33559114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M

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Source: My dad works at Trump Tower

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fuck it. time to start a group to get embedded with Syrian soldiers and actually get the chance to kill muslim extremists instead helping the terrorist scum (((they))) want us to for Israel

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>The US will go to war in the middle east for the fourth (4th) time in your life

>>33559169
Let's not forget the months of "boots on the ground, US intervention happening!" news during the Yugo Warz

>>33559169
Yup, I remember that. It was like clockwork.

>>33559215
Ivan may not be capable, but the Lord is.
Helping jihadi Muslims in the middle east to genocide Christians is the sort of thing that gets on his bad side.

>>33559252
>joining Assad AFTER the US started bombing him

Are you suicidal?

>>33559267
well desu there were US guys on the ground holding the safe zones

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>>33559160
My best guess.

>>33559296
And it still never happened! It was the most painful blue balls in military history.

USA needs to put troops on ground.

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Draft soon? I thought we were going to let this whole assad thing burn itself out for a couple more years.

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>>33559282

What do you think God thinks of gassing children?

>>33559324
Too late buddy, I'm with the United State Aerial Marine Corp, and I'm drafting YOU, right now. Pack your bags.

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CONFIRMED NEO CON SHIT HAWK

I FUCKING TOLD THOSE NEWFAG /pol/ /r/the_donald fucktards

>>33559331
>he doesn't understand that the rebels used the gas, just like they have before, as a ploy to gain US assistance

>>33559314
Not really, there was some fighting with gangs affiliated with the Serbs

>>33559355
Why aren't you posting in /pol/?

>>33559350
Can I drive/crew a tank?

>>33559179
This, watching /pol/ and especially /sg/ melt down in a wave of unironic WTF I HATE DRUMPF NOW WE CAN'T LET HIM GET THE NUCLEAR CODES is giving me almost as much schadenfreude as election night.

>>33559114
so did anyone confirm it was sarin gas? Did we just launch 40 missiles based off a 'journalist' and a video?

>>33559381
Nah it was just a prank gone wrong 2017

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>>33559355
bruh

>>33559379
Only if you bring two friends to gun and command.

>>33559381
>sarin gas
Of course. The guys with loose credentials at least that went there to see the damage without any proper gear told us that it was sarin gas.

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>>33559356
this times a thousand.
dont worry at least we will get the real story about how Iran was behind the chemical attacks all along

buckle up goyim!

>>33559355
On one hand, I recognize the reality of the world and peace through strength is a real thing. So I'm not against ANY killing of foreigners.

On the other hand, I am at a loss to see how this HELPS us at all. Those Tomahawks aren't cheap, and we just blasted 70 of them so that CNN and #nevertrump could stroke their zionist war boners.

>>33559380

>This, watching /pol/ and especially /sg/ melt down

That was delicious indeed.

>>33559381
>Did we just launch 40 missiles based off a 'journalist' and a video?
Yes, unless the CIA comes forward with definitive evidence that SAAF airplanes were loaded with sarin bomblets prior to the attack (they won't).

>>33559356
>The rebels outsmarted the American intelligence services as well as took control over an Assad aircraft and had it fly just over the place the staked their Sarin gas bombs then timed the explosions perfectly while killing their own children for the slight chance that Trump would respond

Are being payed to post this? How much?

>>33559374
Range ban

>>33559425
It's... not that much. Tomahawks get used pretty regularly, at worst they've used up a month's quota of Tomahawking all at once.

If I was a strategist for the US, and I was looking at a map for potential allies and available forces for deployment in Syria, my eyes would naturally turn to all the work being done in Iraq.

Would deploying the veterans/freshly trained Iraqi forces and their western support be viable?

Doesn't it make sense to send those guys in after Isis and Syrian government positions at this point?

All I can think of holding them back would be the Iranian influence.

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Gopnik hordes is Russia's strategy. Just ask the wehrmact..

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>>33559197
It's not so much a happening anymore.

/sg/ is current under the conclusion that it's fucking nothing. There seems to be minimal causalities even though there is evidence of material destruction.

Seems Trump is only gesturing a warning to Assad while calming down people clamoring for war in order to look decisive.

>>33559381
It was chlorine gas. The rebels were storing it and SAA bombs dispersed the gas but it accidently killed some local fauna.

>>33559465
The coalition call is really weird though
Wonder if this is a ramp up to a Libya style bombing bonanza?
Thanks for the tweet though, frankly exactly what I expected.

>>33559443
>US intelligence services don't have their own agenda
Why do you think John McCain is always visiting with the "democratic rebels"?

>>33559465
>Seems Trump is only gesturing a warning to Assad while calming down people clamoring for war in order to look decisive.
If so, this is fine. The Russian probably won't do shit

>>33559465
You don't call on the civilised world for nothing. Seems Trump has made his choice between Norks and Syria, even if he doesn't even realise he's made that choice.

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Syria has failed. Just divide it up into a alawite, sunni, and kurdish state already

also keep crying assadfags/sand negroes

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The whole syrian war has been so weird. It's a civil war that expanded into an insurgent groups invasion of another state, now it's proxied all to hell by everyone short of the Chinese (or maybe they're involved too, but I don't keep up with things). I didn't realize how long something this stupid could go on, even if stuff like this has been happening in Africa for literally decades.

Is there any chance a coalition could do anything to end the war while keeping the regime in power so the country doesn't collapse into ISIS 2 Tigris Boogaloo?

>>33559563
Chinese have been lurking at the edges, nobody knows what they're up to.

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>>33559420

>>33559491
According to the same Twitter user there were apparently Russians based there as well. I guess the Muricans were playing it really safe.

That said, there is one soldier dead, and quite a few aircraft destroyed.

https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/850182889870372864

>>33559545
Syria is never going to exist as a stable unified country again. Has gone the way of yugoslavia.

These slavs who keep thinking assad will win completely any day now are ignoring that the conventional phase of the war has been a huge uphill battle for him/iran/russians and still has no end in sight. And even IF they manage to recapture the entire country there's still years of iraq-style sectarian violence/terrorism ahead.

The ONLY solution is to just divide up Syria in a peace agreement. There is no military solution in syria for anyone. Assad can't win, FSA can't win, "moderate rebels" can't win, russia can't win, US can't win, ISIS is batshit crazy, Kurds just want to unify with north Iraq

>>33559584
Wonder how the Syrians felt when they saw the Russians slinking away (I assume the Russians were the first to know)

>>33559318
I concur.

>>33559610
>Kurds getting along with other Kurds
Since when?

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>>33559579
There is no such thing as identity politics. It's just politics. And yes, often one interest group's gain is at the expense of another.

>tomahawks dropped on chemical weapons warehouse in Syrian airbase
>no one dies of chemical weapons as the supposed chemical weapons gets spread during the bombing.

>>33559563
>Chinese (or maybe they're involved too, but I don't keep up with things)

China has been supporting Assad for quite some time now.


>>33559610
>Kurds just want to unify with north Iraq

It's more complicated than that, the Kurds in Northern Iraq and in Syria don't get along with each other.

>>33559637
Even nasty shit like Sarin is pretty easy to render ineffective. Blowing it up would definitely do the trick.
It was most likely Chlorine though.

Why are tomahawk launches so slow? Kaliber ripple fires were fast compared to this.

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>>33559160
Take out the planes which I think is where I marked in black. Dig a ditch in the middle of the strips to split the runway so they can't just extend the ends, they have to repair a large crater in the middle. Bomb green I'd that's the planes.

>>33559186
t.achmed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Aq-XYR0Cs

>>33559563
>Is there any chance a coalition could do anything to end the war while keeping the regime in power

No.

That thinking is more than likely over. So is the idea of fledgling native democracies. Anyone setting boots down has to realise this is a generation of occupation, old empires style.

...and that's potentially a really good thing, because then the future is clearly defined for everyone. The empire is going to set up new states, new infrastructure, they're going to exploit what they can the population is going to learn how to deal with the new order, and one the new borns reach twenty the empire fucks off but in the meantime that means Iraq, syria and whatever the fuck the Kurds want to do stays together, lebanon benefits because for once they aren't being constantly ass raped.

>>33559610
So while we bring in tens of millions of foreigners into our own countries
We should dismantle multi-culti foreign countries into its various ethno-religious components?

Assad will win eventually, Kurds might stay independent, but the Turks won't like that

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>>33559631
>There is no such thing as identity politics.

I hope this turns into a full scale war and we all get drafted.

>>33559536
I called on the civilized world to get me a beer last night.

>>33559726
All of politics has ALWAYS been "identity politics"

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>>33559579
I dont even get how this kike is trying to deflect from my post with that image

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>>33559734

Oh I cant wait to get yelled at for like 2 years and then have the risk of getting gassed and shit

>>33559722
There will be even more migrants if Syria continues as it, i.e. a failed state.

Create the new states to replace the failed state of Syria, ship the migrants back there

>>33559734
I wasn't necessarily hoping for this but it went through my head.

I wonder what's it's like on those navy ships right now. I bet they are fired up.

>Time to go shoot some fireworks boys

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>>33559750
that the wifi in the rapeugee center must be good, Ahmed, and stop blaming Jews for all your failures.

>>33559759
>set up another democratic CIA puppet state in the ME
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH

>>33559678
to "kill" runways and taxiways you split it into thirds then put a crating weapon in the middle of those thirds. You see those small hangers war away from the main buildings? Those are hardened aircraft shelters, that's where the planes are. The black line has airbase facilities throughout.

>>33559759
?
Because all the other times of "creating new states" worked so fucking well?

>>33559749
So do they exist or not? Stick to one answer.

>>33559726
Read the rest of my post, you dumb cuck.

>>33559786
Just send a Tomahawk through the hangar's doors though right?

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>>33559759
I'm sure (((they))) are going to let migrants get shipped back
Israel is the reason they are getting shipped there in the first place bro.

Im pretty sure bob kraft used tom bradys wicked spiral to launch a staged chemical weapons attack for the benefit of Israel

>>33559835
I did and you haven't give a clear answer.

>>33559786
Would you do the same to a bridge? Break it into thirds, then hit the middle hard?

>>33559828
Slovenia, Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro worked very well on all of them.

>>33559883
At least those countries have distinct ethnic groups and a national identity. Syria only existed due a strong man keeping various groups together. And these various groups are mixed together across the country.

>>33559841
Sort of, there are different kinds of tomahawks for certain targets. For runways, taxiways and tarmacs the military uses tomahawks that have thousands of submunitions like a cluster bomb. For hardened targets they use a tomahawk that has a penetrator rode with a delayed fuse, which means it hits the target, burrows into whatever its targeting then explodes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)

>>33559450
>~100 million dollars of missiles

clitnips "campaign" was like 1.2 billion

think of all the wasted potential

>>33559908
True but after the fall of the Ottoman Empire the Greeks and Turks living in the wrong country were relocated. If it was possible to do a hundred years ago it shouldn't be too hard to do now.

>>33559948
She's impressively good at wasting money if her campaign costed 1.2 billion.

>>33559830
>>33559866
It exists in the same way centrifugal force or magnetism exists. They are both manifestations of the real forces just analyzed from a different reference frame. It's the same way with the "identity politics" booeyman. It's just an arbitrary way to analyze politics. Politics simply means people with common working together in common cause. (e.g. a common enemy like feminism and Islam.) Coincidentally, it turns out shared identity is one of the things people prefer because it means higher social capital. Stop listening to talk radio and maybe you will understand.

>airstrikes
oh my god it's literally nothing, Trump said he'd do this. stop falling for the media sensationalizing everything

>>33559932
Neat. I figure with ~70 launched, they'd go for some trickshots in between the boring normal hits.

>>33559977
she has a whole army of people to waste money for her

>>33559878
Hit the supports near the edges and the center.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-28

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-24_Paveway_III

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-109_bomb

and for big targets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Ordnance_Penetrator

>>33560003
>tfw we don't have nosecam footage of tomahawks doing aerial stunts before they explode
REEEEEEEE

>>33559977
>but after the fall of the Ottoman Empire the Greeks and Turks living in the wrong country were relocated.
Funny term for ethnic cleansing you got there

Turks mass murdering greeks 100 years ago secures their right to "their country" today. Strange precedent that you people like to establish.

Oh well, what a surprise that Americans can't comprehend actually defending their country & nation.

>>33560003
I'm sure they wanted be be sure to hit all the targets, which if I remember correctly is 2 missiles per target based on SOP for the US. Not to mention the potential for these missiles to have been shot down by Russia air defense, so they fired enough to factor in that and in order to get a high probability of a kill.

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>>33559988
>oh my god it's literally nothing
I know! I'm already bored again. Why does the happening never happen?

>>33560100
So with two missiles per target they at least get to have Tomahawk races to the target right?

>>33560003
So what the fuck happened to the 11 missiles that missed? 15% failure rate seems pretty high.

>>33560127
The fire them so they all hit within 30 seconds, so i guess if you squint a bit, i guess you can say they do.

>>33560142
where did you get that info? Did 11 miss? They can self destruct missiles in flight if need be.

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>Tomorrow they'll bash his cock about how he emboldened Assad to use chem weapons by making the statement about how the Syrian people will decide Assad's future.

The sad part is you know that'll be a talking point no matter how ludicrous it sounds.

>Assad on the verge of Victory and closing this bloody chapter in Syria's history was emboldened by President Drumpf and Sec. Tillerson statement to launch a chemical weapons attack on the very people he wishes to govern after the war.

>>33560183
I've heard two numbers, 70 and 59. I'm guessing that's 70 fired and 59 hit.

>>33560218
Oh, no, they fired 59 total.

>>33560199
It is quite ridiculous.
NYT is claiming that it makes sense because he's trying to break the morale of the occupants of rebel-held territory. Highly tenuous in my opinion since this can be easily done with conventional weapons that don't engender international outcry. But Assad is just evil I guess, right?

>>33560142
That's actually pretty good for a ballistic missile. Some people are so used to it that they forget that it's literally rocket science

>>33560279
They're not ballistic missiles, they're cruise missiles.

>>33560267
>this can be easily done with conventional weapons that don't engender international outcry

If it could he would have done it ages ago without Russia's help. You aren't dealing with competent, professional people.

>>33560003
>what the fuck is that missile doing?
>"trying to collect SKATE, admiral."

Poll
who does /k/ think is behind the sarin gas attack?

https://strawpoll.com/4c5zys3

More sand camo patterns for the foreseeable future?

>>33560267
Syrians can't really win this war easily without gas weapons, and they sure as hell won't govern well without fear. Arabs cannot into war

>>33559186
And we hope you don't get your goodboypoints tonight.

>>33560361
Yeah those 40 civilians killed really accomplished a lot, no way he could win without that.

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Completely incredulous.
Flabbergasted. Staggered and reeling. Utterly dumbfounded.

Loving every minute.

>>33560360
It's the only thing Multicam is good at, so hopefully.

>>33560361
So this is what I don't get. If this attack was punitive and does nothing to further our goals (if defeating ISIS really is our goal), we're making an assumption that this wasn't a false flag. But making a rule about what weapons can and cannot be used creates an incentive for false flags though. Chlorine is easy to make and the rebels gained more in this action than Assad. Why do we care if they used chlorine gas? We already have terrorism which is arguably just as bad.

>>33560352

Independent warlord loosely affiliated to Assad who he has no control over.

Things are too messy to tell who exactly is doing what. A lot of rebels actually turned coat and became loyalists last year.

>>33560399
The reason why chemical weapons were banned isn't because they're good at killing but because they're an inhumane way of killing.

If you shoot a rebel's kids they're dead and he'll be pissed and fight back even harder against you. But if you gas them to death and they see their bodies spasm to death in front of them the rebels whose kids are still alive are much less likely to fight you in the future.

Terror doesn't kill the body it kills the spirit.

>>33560458
> we're making an assumption that this wasn't a false flag

Most likely wasn't, the US has guys on hand to check for these things and would only actually attack if they were certain that an attack took place and that they were bombing the right guys.

>>33559465
CNN is reporting russkies we're on the base that was hit. WW3 when?!

>>33560514
>trusting CNN ever
>doubt.jpeg

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>>33559756
Brotip: dying of nerve gas is probably more pleasant than wearing MOPP4

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>>33560508
>the US has guys on hand to check for these things and would only actually attack if they were certain that an attack took place and that they were bombing the right guys.

>>33560508
>only actually attack if they were certain that an attack took place
Based on what evidence? If there was a plane that flew over and dropped bombs on a chemical storage facility, how would that look different than a plane dropping bombs with chemical warheads?

>>33559722
The Turks would love an independent Kurdish state. It lets them declare war on the Kurds without stepping on Russia's interests in Syria

>>33560631
reply:I'm talking out of my ass

>>33559331
God only likes drowning kids;)

>>33560330
They need to make the missiles even more maneuverable. I want vector dancing cruise missiles.

>>33559179

I'm a loyal supporter and I'm loving this show of strength. Not a half-ounce of regret and hat firmly affixed.

>>33559380
/sg/ has always been a joke, albeit one I never realized until now.

The people there have drank their own kool aid and memes, to the point that they think Assad and Russia are some sort of force for good, instead of the lesser of two evils when compared to ISIS.

>>33560851
Imagine being this faggot

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>>33559114
Can I get a summary of what has been happening please?

>>33560986
>some sort of force for good
>the lesser of two evils
Semantic games or Semitic games?

>>33561072
He's basically been unequivocally proven to be a mass murdered who's killed plenty of his own citizens, not just rebels and scumbags. He's not good in any way it can be imagined.

>>33561069

-Civvies get hit with Sarin gas in city or suburb near homs I think
-Russia/Assad says it was a bomb that hit a stockpile of chemical weapons the rebels held
-Everyone else says it was Assad bombing them
-Trump's folks get mad, parade the pictures of the dead children and such from the attack.
-Xi Ping of China meeting with trump having dinner at florida white house lago place.
-Trump has the bombing of the airport where the Syrian airforce that bombed that region by homs came from happen during meeting.
-May or may not have told Russia beforehand.

>>33561114
Thanks.

I should start paying attention to the Syrian war now that it seems shit is going to start happen.

>>33559844
What is that image supposed to convey, other than there are a number of Jews who support immigration? I don't even think Jack Straw is Hebrew, so that whole thing is suspect.

>>33561106
It's no crime to kill islamists

>>33560986
>The people there have drank their own kool aid and memes,

....and thought that because Trump got in, magically, America would stop being America, the Gop would stop being the Gop, the Dems would stop being the dems, and /sg/'s petulance wouldn't feed straight into support for Bernie Sanders.

Meanwhile their fucking patron saint Bannon is in the halls of the WW mumbling and cursing about "The Jew" in relation to the strikes against Syria. He's so fucking taken off guard by this. Thank Christ McMaster kicked him out of the NSC.

>>33561142

Before this happened Assad was on the upswing and was largely guaranteed to win at least in the long term slog. Some question if it's a false flag because Cui bono.

Personally I think:

-It was done to illustrate American resolve (weakened to lethargic levels with Obama's lead from behind) and unilateralism independent of the UN (Again, same deal. A lot of idiots were shocked at this attack going "wait wait it's against UN law how can this be" not realizing UN law is worth only as much as the participants are willing to give it. It has no legal ramifications or enforcement beyond someone choosing to enforce it).

-It is not and I hope it is not the start of regime change. Rather it's a shot across the bow to remind Assad that a different sheriff is in town and he has to behave. For all the talk of Trump not telegraphing his moves if he wanted to regime change he'd have been better off going at it right away, not a preliminary strike that causes Assad to bolster his defenses with or without Russia.
-It was designed to send a message to Xi Ping that this will happen in North Korea if he doesn't reign in the midget.
-It severely damages the credibility of Moscowian Candidate activists. Some will still believe this.
-A willingness to use force but also an intelligence to not arm jihadists can give us more bargaining power at the negotiating table. If Assad/Russia demanded something at the negotiating table they could just go back to beating up the insurgents.
-It was a test of Russian AA networks for the future.
-It was a reminder to Russia that we are not the cuddlebear Europeans. And it lets them know we are accepting Assad as the lesser of two evils but

>>33561263

And it lets them know we are accepting Assad as the lesser of two evils but there are limits to that tolerance.

Trump limits it to a punitive strike and necessary repercussions/overwhelming counterstrikes if they try anything with our guys in the East and he's smart. Trump lets it slide into regime change and he is an even greater idiot than Bush Jr. because Trump knew Iraq 2 was a mistake and he has the Iraq 2 as an example but is willing to do it all the same.

The only conceivable realistic way that a regime change will work in Syria for the better is if you have a "meet the new boss same as the old boss" with some sort of regime insider who didn't get his hands bloodied becoming the new el presidente with the same dictatorship, same military junta rule and same repressive system but with a few token concessions. The person who thinks you can achieve a stable, fuck, a non genocidal democracy in Syria is someone who is without a doubt the stupidest motherfucker alive who would give the sons of vulcan in the white house Bush Jr. years a run for their money.

Give me the power of the president and I would sooner be able to make peace between a time traveling Nazi Germany and Bibi's Israel than between the factions of Syria. It is up to a law of physical nature that a lebanese or tunisian or even Iraq 2016 democracy is impossible in Syria for the next 10 years.

>>33560508

>Most likely wasn't, the US has guys on hand to check for these things and would only actually attack if they were certain that an attack took place and that they were bombing the right guys.

Did you forget about a little something called the "Iraq War?"

>>33560986
>All those US flags in /sg/ chanting death to America
They finally show their true colors. Hilariously sad.

>>33561312
Yeah, /pol/ is exploding.

>tfw can't even join the miliary
Why live?

>>33561312
Yea they thought Trump getting elected was the end of neo-con bullshitting
Turns out, its just same old same old
Enjoy fighting in Iran lol

>>33561341
It's time for you to go back.

>>33561341
Get back in your box.

>>33561341
>>33561334
Most stupid part is that I'm highly skeptical Trump is some sort of neo-con, even after this.

>does one off strike on an airbase to intimidate the chinese, establish dominance in the region, and punish Assad for using a chemical weapon (or if it was a false flag then just cause)
>/sg/ and /pol/ suddenly think we're at war with Syria

They literally said they considered the strike to be an act of aggression from us, not an act of war.

>>33561341
/k/ is not accepting /pol/ refugees at this time.

>>33561106
It's how you turn a wilderness into a garden, anon. The nice things we have are obtained through order, order is obtained through liberty, and--tragically--liberty is obtained by killing everyone who doesn't believe in liberty.

>>33561233
>Thank Christ McMaster kicked him out of the NSC.
Did he now?

>>33561263
Didn't said Trump that is taking steps to make a coalition to stop Assad?

>>33561341
You do know that the only reason this strike was necessary was due to Obama's weakness and vacillation for 8 years. Trump is reasserting that you can't thumb your nose at the US, which is fine.

I won't support regime change but if this is just a demonstration of you don't fuck with the red line, then that is all well and good if it cools down tensions

>>33559179
I don't think those people are trump supporters, but rather fags from /v/ and other boards that had their "WW3 HAPPENING I HATE TRUMP" threads deleted and got told by mods to go to /pol/.

>>33561367
>they consider it an act of aggression
I know right! Fucking hilarious, can you imagine if they declared war. Game fucking over in Syria. Seriously though, this was such a balanced move, no doubt McMasters was behind it.

>>33561451
Destroying relations with Russia & Syria & anyone else who thought Trump was different than Obama are totally worth it...

>>33560631
>how would that look different
"What building did they bomb there"
"Oh yeah that's the chemical weapons plant"
"Bastards! the world must know"

Yeah if they bombed a chemical weapon plant we would be able to tell. It's a bit different than residential housing.

https://strawpoll.com/4c5zys3

who was really behind the sarin gas attacks?

>>33559114
So much for those shitty f-35s huh.

>>33561402

I didn't seed it in the speech.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-latest-syria-missile-strike-tomahawk-chemical-weapons-attack-idlib-beautiful-babies-a7671471.html

>Tonight I call on all civilised nations in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria and also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types.

However

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/06/tillerson-says-coalition-forming-to-target-assad-trump-hearing-military-options.html

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Thursday that “steps are underway” on an international coalition to pressure Bashar Assad from power, as President Trump was being briefed on military options for Syria – though what specific steps the U.S. and its allies might take in response to the latest deadly chemical weapons attack remained unclear.

America’s top diplomat addressed the Syria crisis a day after Trump declared in the Rose Garden that the chemical strike would not be tolerated. Tillerson pointedly said Russia should “consider carefully” its support for the Assad regime, while calling for an international effort to defeat ISIS in Syria, stabilize the country and ultimately work with partners through a political process that leads to Assad leaving power.

Asked if the U.S. would organize a coalition to remove Assad, Tillerson said: “Those steps are underway.”

>>33561496
>chemical weapon plant
Nobody said it was a plant, turbofag. I said STORAGE, which could be anything from a hospital to a daycare. You're losing because you can't even establish a motive and you HAVE NO EVIDENCE.

>>33559987
>>Manifestations
>>real forces
>>Reference frame

Sure is 17th century shit up in here.

>>33561500
Go back to /pol/

>>33561493
Russia is blatantly antagonistic already and continues to interfere with the democratic elections of our allies so I would say relations need a bit of a reset, to put it lightly. Syria just gassed its own people, again so I don't think we're gonna get a lot of people jumping to their defense.
I honestly love the thought of Trump voters realizing he's a joke. Surprise! The man will say whatever you want to hear to get elected, he understands none of it.

>>33561529
>t. never took general physics

>>33561540
A: No they aren't
B: No they aren't
C: Syria gased rebels, assuming the media reports are true, which they probably aren't.

If Trump doesn't work out, then thats the end of the USA

>>33561396
Yeah, even if I have to phrase it "Got him kicked out".

>>33561263
>Before this happened Assad was on the upswing and was largely guaranteed to win at least in the long term slog.
"not losing" is very different from winning
Assad has neither the manpower nor the capital to win back the entirety of Syria

>muh false flag

To be honest, Assad has shown before his government is stupid enough to think they could get away with a chemical attack after the statement a few days ago.

Wasn't it being reported the Russians were even getting tired of their incompetence?

>>33561540
What exactly is this interference, apart from social media accounts presuming to disagree with all-knowing MEPs?

>>33561525
Motive:
Scare rebels into submission now that the US gov is not supporting their cause.

Sarin gas is not simply aquired and stored "you know, wherever" you cockgobbler. The government has the resources to deploy it, the rebels do not.

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>>33561529
You're an obvious troll but lets pretend you're not while I spoon-feed you so I can feel smug about wasting money in college.

>In Newtonian mechanics, the centrifugal force is an inertial force (also called a 'fictitious' or 'pseudo' force)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force

>Alternatively, introductory treatments of magnetism introduce the Biot–Savart law, which describes the magnetic field associated with an electric current. An observer at rest with respect to a system of static, free charges will see no magnetic field. However, a moving observer looking at the same set of charges does perceive a current, and thus a magnetic field. That is, the magnetic field is simply the electric field, as seen in a moving coordinate system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_electromagnetism#Principle

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkJ_IW_yLZk

video of missile launches

>>33561374
/k/ is always pol, tell him what you think of africans,Israelis and Muslims

>>33561561
Sorry vlad
cnn.com
/2017/02/16/us/russia-us-ship-fly-by/index.html

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>>33561615
>violating international law for marginal gains, risking multilateral condemnation and possible international reprisal
>sarin gas, not easily acquired chlorine gas as reported
This is all a distraction anyway. God I hate you fucking shills.

>>33561611 #
Spreading of disinformation. Encouragement and inflimation of rumors damaging to status quo figures.
Pols have been dealing with this shit so much they actually are wary of fake ruskie news.

http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/300190,Russian-propaganda-discussed-in-Warsaw

>>33561689
>nunes recused
>rus probe back on
Better deflect again....
The babby
>changes rus connection, impresses shi jin ping on what he'll do to kim jong fat, get pess to talk about attacks at same time

He's lucky but not all of us are blind and forgetful

>>33561689
Fucking lol.
Look, dipshit, no one is saying it's not possible that the rebels are trying to trick the US into going to war, only that it's more likely that the regime that used chemical weapons as a terror weapon on their own people just a few years ago could easily be at it again given the carté blanche Trump gave them a few days ago.

>>33560483
See this kind of makes sense but do warlords these days really have access to attack craft and sarin gas? What a time to be alive

The hysterical emotionality with which many Trump supporters are taking a single disappointment gives me not much confidence in them as a long-term political phenomenon. Guys, in life you win some and you lose some. That's just how it goes. Trump was never going to give you 100% of what you wanted 100% of the time. He's going to do things you disagree with sometimes, and he's going to make mistakes. If you expected anything different, then your expectations were not aligned with the reality of how the world works. I'm not defending his decision to bomb Syria. All I'm saying is that it's time for a reality check and time to get off the emotional roller coaster that some people seem to have been on when it's come to politics in the past year. In short, calm down, ditch the emotionality (both the gushing over Trump and the wailing and crying when he disappoints you), get real, and remember that what we support are policies, not people.

>>33560508
Hello Pajeet!

>>33561791
Hi Ahmed [spoiler] Why did you blow my cover mate? [/spoiler]

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>>33561769
>rebels are trying to trick the US into going to war
I didn't say anyone was tricked. It's likely Trump saw an opening and took it for his own reasons, knowing the media won't contradict him. I care about the facts because the media are known liars, and I care about Trump's possible motivations because he is always multiple steps ahead of everybody and it's instructive.
>just a few years ago
Clearly you weren't paying attention at the time. Time to go to sleep, reddit.

>>33561833
Subtle.

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>>33561790
Fuck off, faggot. There wasn't one rational thought in that entire word salad.

>>33559563
Spanish Civil War is possibly the most recent analogue, although maybe someone else has a better suggestion.

>>33560514

Ample time seemed to have been given to the Russians to evacuate. Some accounts say it was a 45 minute warning.

>>33559584

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>>33562413
>Not the civil war in Lebanon
>The result of a slow demographic shift due to Palestinian refugees from the Arab-Isreal conflict
>Instigated by protests by an Arab Nationalist Muslim majority aligned to the the Soviets, against the West-aligned Maronite Christian government
>Long, protracted conflict that lasted for 15 fucking years, wrecked much of the country and permanently reshaped the political landscape

The whole thing happened at Syria's doorstep no less. That's not even getting into the quarter-century long occupation by Syria until Rafic Hariri was killed by Hezbollah.