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>tfw Australia spends $24 billion a year on their military

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>tfw Australia spends $24 billion a year on their military

What the fuck are they up to /k/? And why are the Aussies actually trying when nobody else in NATO/American alliances in general are?
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because we are masterrace t b h.
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>>33539122
Ever been to Australia? They have to fight more than people over there.
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>>33539122

Its cause every thing there wants to kill them. Only a matter of time before some freak mutation happens and they're stuck fighting god knows what.
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we do nothing. please dont check
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Drop Bears dont mess around
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>>33539122
I wouldn't worry about it ... mate
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>>33539122
Gotta keep those cheeky Indo faggots in check.
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Emu's dont genocide themselves
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>>33539122

What the fuck are they up to /k/

Upgrading all our old shit.
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>>33539122
Because Australia's regional allies aren't spending shit... yeah, looking at you New Zealand
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>>33539122
http://archive.is/SLPJW
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>>33539122
The Emus will never see them coming.
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>>33539122
>What the fuck are they up to /k/? And why are the Aussies actually trying when nobody else in NATO/American alliances in general are?

Is that a joke?

That doesn't even meet the 2% standard required by NATO. Thats worse than Poland and Greece.
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>>33539393
>required by NATO

Australia isn't part of fucking NATO
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>>33539122
What's wrong with having good kit and nothing to do with it other than boxing roos and keeping the Abos in check?
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>>33539122
>nobody else in NATO/American alliances in general are
Why you're going to protect us poor Europeans anways, might as well "invest" it into Africa.
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>>33539393
>0.1 off and the 2% thing doesn't even apply to Australia

boo hoo
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Because
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>>33539122
It's the fucking emus man, they'll be coming back soon.
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>>33539393
>Amerilard education
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>>33539122
Australia is actually a superweapon in and of itself. Built from carbon nanotubes, the whole island can lift into the air to act as a giant FOB, drop lethal genetically engineered plants and wildlife upon its foes, and if worse comes to worse, crush China under its mass.
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>>33539122
spending it on multicultural and feminist consultation and gender re-assment and tit job surgerys desu senpai.
or other endless money pits like the g-wagon or the tiger.
regards, t. jaded grunt.
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>>33539477
>endless money pits like the g-wagon
I still can't believe they bought those. Someone at Mercedes must suck a mean dick.
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>>33539445
>Canada

how embarrassing
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>>33539122
Because if there's going to be a war in China, we'll be a little like the UK was in WW2 (Japan, etc would be more like France). We'd depend on the US to win the war, but we'd be somewhat of a self-defending, safe logistics hub.
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>>33539477
>spending it on multicultural and feminist consultation and gender re-assment and tit job surgery
what? can you elaborate?
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>>33539445
Australia's defence spending as a % of GDP is also on the rise; next financial year it'll be 2.1% and is expected to nearly double from ~$32B to ~$59B over the next decade: http://thediplomat.com/2016/02/australias-defense-budget-to-jump-81-over-next-decade/
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>>33539223
this, we havent retrofitted since fucking nam
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>>33539458
I think it's worse comes to worst. Eggcorns are the worst.
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>>33539495
There's been a couple of cases where women have been able to get boob jobs or transgenders have been able to get gender-reassignment surgery on the basis of it affecting their mental well-being. It's definitely a waste of taxpayer money, but it's uncommon, so it has a negligible impact on the budget.
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>>33539122
>24 billion
Most of them went to
>wages
>benefits
>pensions
>paying annual rent so the air force could use Malaysian airbase (to keep those filthy indo niggers guessing)
>paying stuff for NZ. Fucking Kiwis
>maintaining not 1, or 2, but 6 white elephants that are HMS Collins
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>>33539122
China expansion and tensions with Indonesia.
We're also in the middle of a massive update of hardware.
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>>33539539
>>33539540
Oh yeah, that as well.
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>>33539527
unacceptable, i pay my taxes for you cunts to protect me, or at least to pretend that you're protecting me (i know that you guys always use all of your ammo right before the next budget, don't lie). i will accept paying for some rifleman-to-be's eye surgery, i will not accept paying for some cunt's MTF surgery.
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>>33539446
this desu
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>>33539477
which battalion m8
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>>33539477
Stage a coup, then gib us guns back.
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>>33539122
There's no war with the emus right now, and there never was a First Emu War either.

Shut the fuck up and stop shitposting OP, your wild accusations are baseless and impossible.

There's no such thing as emus!
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>>33539481
literally a $250000 min admin vehicle. we have the 6×6 combat varient now as a recon car but even that isnt as gud as the old rovers or the jakal or something.

>>33539495
the gubment literally pays muslim imams a salary to try and convince muslims to join the adf, we have some captain in the navy that floats around wearing hijab whoes generally used as the poster girl for multicultrualism when shes not being an extremist on her official twitter. Also programs for abos to go walk about n sheeeitttt and a million other loop holes and accomidation for every shade of nigger that falls into the army

oh yeah last year for our mandatory briefs (dont rape, dont do drugs, dont kill yourself, ect) my brigade payed a pair of feminists to go around trying brainwash us. it did not end well.
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>>33539527
Jeez never must of had that when I was in the army
To think when the last time I got blown up I could have just ticked a box and come out of surgery with a 12" dick and looking like Brad Pitt.

>mental well-being 110%!
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>>33539582
this

australian military dictatorship when?
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>>33539592
I am not a fan of the Perenties, but they just sort of kept going when everything else gave up the ghost. Can't for a minute imagine a Mercedes having any of the longevity once you get out into the shit and knock them around.
Shit, last time a mate had to get his (normal sedan Merc) fixed it was some staggering amount of bullshit
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>>33539194

This desu, before too long they're military will be capable of launching a successful amphibious/airlift invasion against Australia
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>>33539539
> but 6 white elephants that are HMS Collins
>white elephants

Are you straight from ABC?
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>>33539619
yep, pretty much, everything that could go wrong with a modern, over priced, over engineered, German 4×4 does
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>>33539592
>the gubment literally pays muslim imams a salary to try and convince muslims to join the adf, we have some captain in the navy that floats around wearing hijab whoes generally used as the poster girl for multicultrualism when shes not being an extremist on her official twitter. Also programs for abos to go walk about n sheeeitttt and a million other loop holes and accomidation for every shade of nigger that falls into the army

what the fuck.

what, in your opinion, would happen if the chinese military somehow managed to conduct an invasion on australia tomorrow? how would the army react?
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>>33539691
Turnbull would cry to uncle sam
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>>33539122
Gotta protect the Sheilas against domestic terrorists.
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>>33539680
It actually makes me pretty cranky because the 70 series cruiser is almost perfect for light military use. Cheap, tough as old boots, used here for over 30 years, massive amounts of after market support locally.
There's a reason everyone from farmers to mining companies use them, they're fucking hard to break.
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>>33539604
>>33539555
A big part of it is the general public and political will of focusing more on mental health - the ADF now doesn't (at least officially) allow mental health problems to affect your career; ie you can tell a psych that you're suicidal and they're not meant to be able to use that against you when it comes to being promoted, etc.

Of course, they don't want to draw a line saying that only combat-related illnesses (PTSD) get you exempt, because suicide rates are highest in those that don't deploy / see combat (not hard given most of the ADF doesn't see combat). Likewise, you can't draw the line just at mental illnesses caused by job-related stresses, because they can either not know what the exact cause is, or they can just lie. That same argument then takes you all the way to gender re-assignments, etc, although there you also have the politically correct / LGBT crowd pushing for these things to be accepted.

Personally I don't care; I know one ADF member who went from girl to boy and as far as I'm aware it's only improved their mental and physical performance. That badass speech that the ex Chief of Army (Morrison) gave was also written by his transgender (male to female) aid or whatever (apparently now in the RAAF as GPCAPT McGregor). Of the one female officer I know that's received a boob job... it was nice.
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>>33539652
You and I know that Collins class subs are complete garbage
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>>33539712
>I know one ADF member who went from girl to boy and as far as I'm aware it's only improved their mental and physical performance.
would the job be done better by a guy who's not a nutcase? if so, why wasn't the girl thrown out?

>Of the one female officer I know that's received a boob job... it was nice.
THESE ARE MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO HER BOOB JOB. UNLESS I GET SOME, I'M NOT OKAY WITH IT. WHAT UTILITY COULD A BOOB JOB POSSIBLY HAVE FOR THE ARMY?
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>>33539539
How much exactly do we pay to use Butterworth airbase?
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>>33539712
>the ADF now doesn't (at least officially) allow mental health problems to affect your career;
They won't let you in though. My psych. medication disqualified me from joining.
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>>33539730

How so?
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>>33539822
yes
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>>33539810

Depends on the condition and how long it has been since you needed meds for it.

They like you to be stable with no pathology for 3 years.
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>>33539830
Sure lad
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>>33539738
>>Of the one female officer I know that's received a boob job... it was nice.
>THESE ARE MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO HER BOOB JOB. UNLESS I GET SOME, I'M NOT OKAY WITH IT. WHAT UTILITY COULD A BOOB JOB POSSIBLY HAVE FOR THE ARMY?

Morale?
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>>33539833
Anyone know which battalions have the new F90 yet?
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>>33539840
throw her out of a fucking chinook and replace her with a man, instant morale rise! now the lads can make dick jokes again, that got the US through WW2!
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>>33539835
>since you needed meds
I'll always need medication, it's a lifelong disease that requires lifelong treatment.
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>>33539849

Then no soup for you
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>>33539841
All of 3 Bde.
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>>33539852
Sucks, because I really wanted to go through the military training. I have a sort of pseudo-survivalist bent, and there's no obese militia groups in Australia to roll around in the mud with.
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>>33539845
Well I can't argue with that mate.
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>>33539730
they're actually pretty good now desu
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>>33539900
cunt needs to eat something
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>>33539905
Its afraid
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>>33539905
>sometimes_shit_happens.jpg
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>>33539905
F
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>>33539920
What a tool.
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>>33539926
delete this
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>Entire Aussie military budget is less than the USMC.
Kek
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>>33539738
>would the job be done better by a guy who's not a nutcase? if so, why wasn't the girl thrown out?
Because either they lied about having gender identity confusion or whatever thoughts during the screening process, or they came about after joining up.
>THESE ARE MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO HER BOOB JOB.
To be fair, your tax dollars go to all sorts of boob jobs getting done with or subsidised with Medicare. But yeah, the utility of the boob job that I know of was that she was depressed or whatever from being flat. You'd think it'd be easier to have a psych teach her to get over it, but I guess time = money either way.

>>33539810
Again, the issue is that once someone is a member of the ADF, the ADF is responsible for their health - if they come in and don't show signs of having a gender identity crisis or whatever, it can be argued in court that stresses caused by ADF service created or catalysed the issue.
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>>33539936
>Entire Amerilard military got destroyed by rice farmers.
Kek
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>>33539946
>destroyed
You should read on the history of the war, if you want to see which military got "destroyed".
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>>33539937
>Because either they lied about having gender identity confusion or whatever thoughts during the screening process, or they came about after joining up.
isn't the idea of a medical discharge a thing for exactly this situation?

>To be fair, your tax dollars go to all sorts of boob jobs getting done with or subsidised with Medicare.
yes, but the problem is that when i'm arguing about the budget with other people, i like to be able to draw lines on what money goes to what.
for example i can say "x percent of our national budget goes to the pensions of old cunts", and nobody can argue with me on that. the problem with this shitshow however is that if someone then asks me where i'd rather the money go (and i can't go full a... leppo???), if i say "the military to protect our country" all that i get is more waste, a few artillery shells for the product of my life's work, and a boob job or two. what i want however is 10 artillery shells, a bunch of ammo, and 100 dead ragheads.
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>>33539946
>Australia's greatest military holiday is how they got destroyed by roaches.
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>>33539122
War with China is coming, and they are the closest.
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>>33539962
Britbong's fault we lost t b h
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>>33539982
>still celebrates it
When is Emu Day?
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>>33539946
>Australia calling out America losing to rice farmers when it lost to flock of birds
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>>33539989
>Black history month

>An entire MONTH
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>>33539975
>they are the closest
Not really. China is closer to Europe than Australia, but it is pretty much all international waters from China to Australia, and we're really isolated down here.
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>>33539992
Good post, very original
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>>33539905
>tfw fucking abbos up in your sweet ass jet.
You wanted cigis, well i'll give you cigis you cunts.
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>>33540007
Top job with the pic dumps man.
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>>33539263
New Zealand doesn't spend because Australia is their protection. No country besides America could reach New Zealand without coming from Australia.
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>>33540013

>Spot the Aussie
>>33540016

Thanks
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>>33539187
Fuck off skinwalker cunt
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>>33539122
Please keep buying our ships.

Yours truly,

Spain.
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>>33540000
Checked
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>>33540019

Even Ireland at least tries to hold the pretense of having a navy! Every single ship counts!
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>>33540019
Dunno about that, France managed to blow shit up there without too much trouble.
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>>33539739
Prolly less than USD 30 million/year.

But that's just for the airbase alone. We also had to pay for ground support, spares and whatnot.

Good thing they're also using hornet as well so we share plenty of stuff with them and their hornets could integrate well with any of our hornet squadron, even the ones with super hornet (no 1 sqdrn, no 6 sqdrn) because we always do exercise together
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>>33539122
They project their power through peacekeeping and anti insurgency campaigns all around Southeast Asia and Africa. It's been that way for years. Apparently Japan knocking on the door rattled them enough to change their foreign policy and level of military intervention

Read some books by David Kilcullen, he has a wealth of knowledge about counterinsurgency which he started learning by researching for his PHD in Timor as an Australian officer
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>>33540080
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>>33539975
>Japan
>ROK
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>>33540065
France attacked NZ?
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>>33540092
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior
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>>33540096
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>>33540092
they blew up some environmentalist ship like in some kind of bizarre james bond novel and spent the next 20 years apologising to new zealand because nobody in france realised how fucking retarded that was
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>>33539811
This a good read

https://books.google.com.my/books?id=qZ-WlswoHFwC&pg=PA179&lpg=PA179&dq=collins+submarine+coating&source=bl&ots=PgO6xjd-q5&sig=h_pYt-AKfs_kHyiBcDRmX1Ywrgc&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=collins%20submarine%20coating&f=false

>>33539902
You mean after 20 years of having to sort all the problem with them subs?

It's not "pretty good now". It's never been "pretty good". The navy (and the politician) simply had to live with its defects and make compromises
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>>33540101
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>>33540104
>2008

They've fixed all the major issues.
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>>33540109
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>>33540117
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>>33540117
where's this from? TAG exercises?
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>>33540102
actually they've treated the kiwi's like shit, they let the spy out of jail pretty much instantly in a giant fuck you and kept on nuking

french are cunts
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>>33540104
no they're pretty good now, have been for a long time

probably shouldn't post if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about mate
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>>33540126

Yeah for G20
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>>33540134
did the rest of the military do much for G20?
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>>33540137
shadow Putin's tugboat fleet?
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>>33540137
Marvelled that someone would be dumb enough to host it in Brisbane, when Canberra is basically meant for that.
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>>33540100
We need more militant actions against greenpeace. Also NZ shouldn't have taken it so personally, IMO.
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>>33540100
Fucking frog terrorist cunts, the cops caught their agents too but just handed them back to the French military to serve out their sentences. Who was the daft cunt that let the frogs get of that easily?
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Seriously I'm more concerned about indonesia than china actually.

China had to deal with South Korea, Japan and Taiwan (not to mention USN 7th fleet) and Australia didn't have any overlapping strategic interest with China.

Indonesia, on the other hand, are different. They're building FOBs near our border as we speak. Even if they didn't have the balls to attack us head on, they could always do espionage on any of our large cities, especially Darwin

Hell espionage and guerrilla warfare is how those mud niggers roll. That's why we've sent our diggers to malaysia to acclimatize as well as to sharpen our jungle warfare skills. Shit isn't fun (fuck operating in thick tropical jungle)
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>>33540003

>tfw I got to serve on Parramatta in 2010
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>>33540140
>Canberra is basically meant for that
how so?
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>>33540154
Planned city, lack of tall buildings or shitty alleyways and full of public servants with nothing better to do.
Brisbane, small as it is (comparatively) is a relatively complicated environment and the disruption to its normal running it was quite substantial. Not as fucking horrendous as Sydney was, but its still pretty fucking dumb.
But hey, you don't get to pick the jobs.
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>>33540148
China's game is gaining influence with the aussie government and buying up all our land.
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>>33540141
>Also NZ shouldn't have taken it so personally, IMO.

kek fuck off if the french blew up a ship in an american harbour trump would nuke them
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>>33540132
>years ago
>problems was persistent as recently as 2014

The only reason they're "pretty gud" now is because RAN had to hire some brits to save their asses and using american system instead of "uniquely australian tailored system" as envisioned when they first made the damn thing.

You think they're good because RAN had to make compromises. When the subs were built they were supposed to be the best diesel electric submarines in the world.

Now they're only good enough until the next diesel electric subs is operational (and even that requires additional 4 billion dollars for upgrade, even though the last major upgrade is less than 5 years ago)
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>>33540176
A Greenpeace ship? I dunno.
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>>33539159
lmao someone shopped tasmanian devil mouth on a koala.
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>>33540193
it's the principle of the thing
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>>33540184
>problems was persistent as recently as 2014
proofs
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>>33540211
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>>33540197
I suppose he would at least milk the situation for economic benefits from France.
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>>33540168
>Planned city, lack of tall buildings or shitty alleyways and full of public servants with nothing better to do.
why are these beneficial? (besides the planned city bit and the public servant bit)

>Brisbane, small as it is (comparatively) is a relatively complicated environment and the disruption to its normal running it was quite substantial.
didn't they shut down basically the entire CBD?

>Not as fucking horrendous as Sydney was, but its still pretty fucking dumb.
how bad was Sydney?
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>>33539122
don't worry. we're definitely not preparing to invade New Zealand...

>>33539856
nice pics - but you never know, there could be Kiwi spies on this board
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>>33540226
>didn't they shut down basically the entire CBD?

Which (if true), is costly. Canberra is basically a showpony town that's not much more than an open convention centre. You could cut half off it out, and nothing of value would be lost.
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>>33540304
Oi, fuck off cunt.
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>>33539954
Medical discharges are only if you can't be fixed to an extent that allows some form of service; I know a guy who lose a hand in an ADF bus accident, he's got a fancy robotic prosthetic and is still in.

>the problem is that when i'm arguing about the budget with other people
If you're concerned about budget, again, an article I saw earlier said all the boob, transgender, etc jobs totalled to about half a million, which is a lot, but only about 0.002% of the ADF's budget. Money lost on drop-outs probably costs more.
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>>33539875
This is above Guam
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>>33540226
Essentially, walk down your street and come to terms with the fact everything over 3-4 stories is an excellent rocket launch site, everything over 2 stories is a decent sniper position, every sewer drain is an IED and every intersection is a kill zone from multiple angles of attack.

Then... wander into the local council (because nothing fuck my life is centralised in one location) and slap their shit around for days trying to get the most up to date information on EVERY damn thing along the way.
Now, that's pretty bad but you've also got the electronic spectrum of about several million sources of shit that's in a city- figure out what your shit will be interfered with or will interfere with.

This is long before we even figure out 'safe' paths from A-B that will be shut down and fuck you buddy to anyone in them. Seriously- fuck off or we'll shoot you so dead like you just touched my girlfriend's pussy and owe me $500 shoot you.

Oh, then throw in the Alphabet Dept's, which is like working with self absorbed monkeys "because we're so fucking secret like James Bond!" This is also one of the reasons you do not want these people having guns on a regular basis, they get ideas.

Last on the list of people to work with are Police, who will want to do something important, traffic control is important, but we'd really like to do something important, you're doing traffic control, its important. Can we do... no, no you can't, now go away.

>how bad was Sydney?
I did 2000 and 07
Actually I would rather do more tours of Iraq and Afghan because our operational flexibility could involve detaining/interrogating scruffy looking types at a whim, blowing up suburbs if need be and they're in the way (ok I'm kind of joking- they have to shoot at us first), generally not being bothered by anyone important and no journalists.

>>33540287
Like you cunts can take our 113's... hell, we can't even get rid of them.
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fuckin' emus man...
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>>33540355

Cool, didn't know that.
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>>33540568
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>>33540577
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>>33540586
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>>33539122
Australian Military Budget:

Equipment and Maintenance: $10 Billion
Gender Equality and Sensitivity Training: $5 Billion
Tolerance Compliance and Safe Space Construction: $3 Billion
Other-kin Adaptation Training: $3 Billion
Sex Changes: $1 Billion
Aboriginal Reparations and Programs: $2 Billion
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>>33540596
>Chest 400 : Replacement Titty Program
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>>33540343

This, there's a clearance diver with a prosthetic arm and leg
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>>33540838
Paul's no longer in the Navy as far as I'm aware; he continued to be a CD instructor for a while after the shark attack, but these days he's a pro-shark "activist" doing stuff with Discovery channel, etc.
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>>33539900
the australians allow skeletons into their army?
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>>33539140

Emus
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>>33541162

Yeah since we stopped allowing pic related in.
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I saw an Aussie instructor at the Armor School at Ft Benning when I was there on a detail in Gold Phase. He looked a right cunt.
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>>33541306

Noice. I need a quick rundown on the gold phase.
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>>33540176

Yeah, let's nuke that other country with hundreds of nukes and the submarines to carry them...
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