Try and find a cooler looking tank than the M60 Starship pro-tip,

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>>33528116

Done, Starship would win if the turret was less fat though.

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>>33528116
im torn between a
Chally1
Abrams in Auscam
or a 2S25 Sprut

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>>33528116

Dat Boi :

Tank thread?

My personal favorite T90-A

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>>33530628
Fugg I forgot pic

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Churchill with a 17-pounder? Count me in.

>>33528116
I have a question about cupola. These heavily inclined glass vision blocks. Wouldn't they work like prisms and change line of sight?

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>>33528116

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>>33530687
Why is t90-chan so angry :_:

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The Armata tank

[Spoiler]concept[/spoiler]

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T-34-85 is king of cool

>>33531146

I still remember the vatnik butthurt on /k/ when it came to be that the tank did not have those asinine cannons on the turret.

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>>33531157
>34-85

Objectively wrong.

>>33531192
the 75 turret is gay and cramped

>>33531211
>75

>>33531278
75, 57, all of those turrets sucked shit until the 85

>>33531128
He sees dirty turks

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T29 a cute

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>>33528116
I wish there was a M60A2 with the conventional gun. That turret looks awesome.

On a similar note the Merkava also looks great. I really like the 'narrow' turret found on the Mk I-III.

>>33531301
>T-34-75
You had two chances to fix the mistake and you fucked up. 4chan is 18+ son.

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>>33528116

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>>33528116
easy

>>33534840
What is that semen demon?

>>33534899

>tank thread
>posts CV-90 IFV

Try again.

They are fucking sick vehicles though. Hopefully the ADF goes for the BAE Patria with CV-90 turret and we can use that as an excuse to replace out M113s with CV-90s.

Personally? The Leo 2A6 with the L/55 120mm or the Armata concept posted previously.

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>>33528116
Curves/10

>>33536312
You see the triangle next to the numbers, right?

>>33536477
>Are you a Leopard 1 or Leopard 2?
>...Yes.

>>33531146
iran's new t-90 is fairly similar to that

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>>33528116
pure sex

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>>33536559
Not gonna lie, that new Karrar tank looks decent.
Even if it's just an upgraded T-72 that's respectable and they haven't made any bullshit claims (That I'm aware of) like they did in the past with their tanks, jets, etc.
Plus it looks pretty sexy.

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>>33528658
Straight sexy!

>>33536477
how effective was MEXAS anyhow?

>>33536477
>Leopard C2
>CF-18
>Colt C7
>Canada really is this insecure

>>33536712
my guess is as good as yours anon. Haven't read anything regarding to it's service record in the Middle East yet.

>>33528658
Oh, what could have been.

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>>33528116
The altay looks beautiful

>tfw the engine problems keep it from being mass-produced

>>33536583
That cupola is just a huge tumor

>>33536477
MEXAS C2 best tank waifu

she thicc

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>>33537309
>turk K-2

pls no

>>33532480
>mark 1
Mah nigga

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>>33538312
Soon

>>33536741
This practice runs deep in Canadian procurement. What usually happens is when Canada buys a platform it makes a slight change, be it through a domestic or foreign company. For example the Leopard C2 MEXAS is basically a Leopard 1a3 hull with a 1a5 turret, improved thermal optics, a fire control computer, and better armour. Even our LAV III's which is one of the few "domestically produced" pieces of military hardware are essentially a Coyote turret bolted to a Swiss designed hull.

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ahem

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>>33534840
Wait a second...

>>33536604
Unfortunately, like any "advanced" Iranian tech, it's mostly plywood and plastic. It seems odd to me that they would put so much useless shit on a tank to just make it look futuristic when it's obvious that none of it is functional.

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>>33528116

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>>33531128

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2ez

Cute yet able to fuck your day up.

Also not a tank but every other SPAAG is cool as fuck. (Along with being expensive as fuck.)

>>33528116
>remove dumb cupola like they eventually did on the A3
>improve the tank tenfold

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It's like a modern version of the Panzer VI Tiger I
Too bad it's hidden behind NERA plates, now.

>>33539008
This picture always makes me lol considering the Chechens fucking rekt all the Russian armor at Grozny so bad that the Russians just pulled out and bombed and shelled the city for like a week straight

>>33540868

I think any armor would be rekt if they fucked up that bad

>>33533826
I was talking about the gun retard

>>33541200
The T-34 never used a 75mm gun you fucktard. It used a 76mm gun.

You fucking lost kiddo.

>>33543346
The driver position for the MBT-70 is one of the dumbest ideas I've heard when it comes to armor design.

>>33541592
>1mm off

i'm not very well versed in pre-85 T-34s

>>33536509
... you want me to hide or report the photo?

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>>33534130
Seconding Moderna

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Not enough engine-side in this thread.

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>>33528658
Eugene Stoner worked on the gun IIRC

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Magach-7C a cute. A CUTE.

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>>33543346
is it a bad thing i have an entire folder dedicated to this sexy beast and should i upload some more?

>>33543946
If it can give me a boner AND kill the weekly F35 shit-tread then yes, please continue

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This tank is the best, the rest of you have shit taste

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>>33544018
ok

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I'm British, and I can honestly say without a doubt that the Challenger 2 is the greatest tank ever created.

>>33544069
The MBT-70 is growing on me.

>>33530858
I believe that is the point.

>>33544110
Nobody wants to see your shitty failed tank, fuck off nerd

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>>33544137
Its too bad autistic bickering fucked over what could've been easily a great tank.

>>33544095
It's an interesting idea but had a lot of stuff that just doesn't have a much of a purpose:
-The 152mm ATGM-capable gun like what was found on the M551 Sheridan and M60
-Variable suspension to raise and lower the hull. Could be argued it was to help get into hulldown positions, but that could have also been done by making the turret smaller by moving the crew into the hull. Only tank that *needs* such a suspension is the Strv 103 due to its gun mounting design.
-Odd driver's position in the turret that used a gyroscope to always keep the driver facing the front of the hull while the turret was traversing.

Definitely an advanced project but it's much better that the Americans and Germans went their separate ways to build two very good tanks.

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>>33544169
Too bad Russian tanks are and always will be better, KIDDO

>>33544207
If you're content to keep using the T-72 and its variants for the next century or copying NATO's scraps with the T-14. Sure.

>>33543388
The idea was that they would not have to make any compromises in the front armor. The T-series has a weak spot in the front glacis right below the drivers viewport.

Theoretically the driver would be safer too, since the turret basket no longer cuts him off from the escape hatches in the turret, so he can bail from the tank when the turret is facing front.

>>33544195
The South Korean K1 and Japanese type 90 also has hydro-pneumatic. The K1 has the XM-1 style turret that only gets -6 degrees of gun depression. Hydropneumatic takes that up to 12. I think type 90 is also -6 from the turret and -6 from the suspensions. Both countries expect to do a lot of fighting from hills and mountains, so extra gun depression gives them more firing positions.

>>33530687
Only tank with demon eyes...

>>33537309
It's also very light weight since its 98% made out of lego.

>>33538997
Mommy...
> Would suckle/10

>>33544267
Where can I buy one of those dolls.... its er, for er, research purposes.

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>find a better tank than [x] pro tip you can't

>>33530687

There was a really good writefag about being a panzergrenader inna black forest and seeing those shtora systems light up one by one and just knowing you're about to be positively fucked by 3rd Guards tank.

T-90 is definitely most angry looking tank

>>33538671
was coming here to post this

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>>33543946
>mfw I live less than an hour from one of these beasts

>>33546414
Where can I find one? I've always to own one and restore it. How much do you guys think it would cost. I might throw down all my shekels just to fix one up again.

>>33545120
It's heavier than an Abrams tank.

>>33546972
This one is at the Military Museum of Southern New England in Danbury CT.

I couldn't say how much they'd want (I have no idea how much any tank would cost, let alone a museum piece), but money is tight for them most of the year, so at the very least you might have a chance at it.

All that being said, during the warmer months they're always looking for help restoring vehicles, and they even have a "open turret day" once a months or so.

>>33543403
World of Tanks fags pls go.

>>33543403
>i'm not very well versed in pre-85 T-34

Nigger, that's like not being well-versed in pre-76mm Shermans. It's possible, but you're also an idiot.

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Is there anything more aesthetic than an Abrams in MERDC?

>>33544019
s..s...SEMPAI SEMPLE

>>33544242
>t14 is copying nato

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>>33549341
abrams in tricolor is way better imo

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>>33549341
An Abram's in auscam

>>33543346
disgus. compared to the abrams it literally looks like 1933s trash.

>>33540265
yes yes yes yes this. I love how boxy and intimidating the front profile of a leopard 2/2a4 looks. a modernist pillbox that says fuck you to sloped armor and eats your HEAT/APDS anyways

>>33550381
>and eats your HEAT/APDS anyways
it takes one RPG7 to kill an A4. stop being an idiot. also, the red side optic compromises the turret armour.

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No one mentioned the Sho't Kal
>positively disgusted

Close seconds that nobody mentioned either

-strv 103b with m90 camo, dozer blade and anti HEAT grid
-merkava 1 with the 105mm

I highly aprove mbt70 tho

>>33550452
ooops, merkava 1 WAS mentioned, my bad

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>>33550334

Wouldn't the M-70 be obsolete within a few years anyway because it lacked Chobham armour?

>>33528116
MBT's need more of a barrel than that little sissyboi clit.

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/thread

>>33531178
I mean, they're all just a bunch of C&C babies who got a boner from getting Apocalypse/Mammoth-like tank in real life.

>>33550334
>compared to the abrams it literally looks like 1933s trash.

Its performance profile did make Abrams look like WW1 trash, yes.
You do realize Abrams is literally a worse but cheaper version of it, right?

>>33536604
>>33538940
I mean, as long as you don't expect to use them and simply need to keep domestic R&D/factories alive, it dosn't really matter it's mostly just for show.

Citizens are happy because they have a 'high-tech' tank protecting them, the military is happy because it has domestically produced hardware and domestic weapon factories are happy because they're getting money to actually make a tank worth shit even if it's not the one currently being fielded.

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>>33531178
A E S T H E T I C

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>>33550452
>Shot Kal
>aesthetically superior to the Merk
Objectively wrong. If plain steel (pre ERA) is your thing, the Mark 1 is clearly nicer than the Cent, and if add-ons are your deal the Merk 2 (Dor dalet) wins.

>>33539550
I kinda like the idea of modern assault guns to complement regular tank forces.

>>33543922
I love the look of magachs

>>33551202
>You do realize Abrams is literally a worse but cheaper version of it, right?

Name some qualities the 70 beats out a Abrams with

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Blitzkrieged

>>33529298
this

>>33547368
>world of tanks
what kind of faggot do you take me for?

>>33551202
>You do realize Abrams is literally a worse but cheaper version of it, right?
Now I like the MBT-70 and all but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. You're thinking of the XM803, which was cancelled in favor of the XM815 that eventually became the XM1. The MBT-70 had thinner armor than even the base M1 (which to be honest was nothing special in terms of armor protection until the M1IP) and the 152mm APFSDS barely outperformed contemporary 105mm APDS and was rapidly outstripped by the new 105mm ammunition coming into service by the end of the 70s. Most of its advanced features simply weren't workable at the time and weren't really necessary in the end.

>>33551158
It's like an FT-17, but autistic.

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>>33543403
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/t34exterminator

>>33554851
The kind that sucks cock and knows nothing about tanks.

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>no Type 10

>>33536509
Am I blind? Where?

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>>33557393
>click triangle
>Image search
>google

It's a CV90 120 by the way. Everybody gets one.

>>33551202
Even if the Kararr turns out to mostly be a T-72 with some cosmetic features, that's still a formidable tank all things considered.
But you're right, a lot of it is also about morale of the Iranian people. They are produced in Iran so it's creates a sense of pride for the people, even if it's not the best.

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>>33528116
Real fucking spacecraft coming through, fag.

Actually really surprised this thing hasn't come up yet.

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>>33557446
It would help if Arabs/Persians/Muslims in general knew how to operate tanks. Even then, my money goes to Pakistan; I can't say they have training, but they have China backing their R&D, or doing it entirely.

>>33536741
We have to designate them differently because we make changes to the base design on everything we buy.

Simplicity = slapping a "C" onto the designation, or if it's really changed then we call it something completely different, but with a C still on it.

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>>33557489
Out of the Arab nations it seems like Jordan has its shit the most together. Too bad the coolest thing they've done, the Falcon Challenger 1 turret, seems to be a prototype still.

Though not Arab, Pakistan and also India show promise as well. They have some very bright minds and some very helpful allies.

>>33540265
>too bad

It would die quicker without them

>>33541592
>76mm

YOU FOOL, it was a 76.2mm cannon!

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We all know the real answer.

>>33557686
Throwing some gasoline into the thread

http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars

>>33557686
>India show promise as well
yeah the arjun has been a great project

>>33558072
Really something that needs to show up more often. Aside from the occasional /pol/ faggot who shows up more often than anyone likes, I feel that few of us believe that Arabs are less intelligent on a genetic level; ie, they aren't doomed from conception to be stomped on by Western military powers, but they may be depending on where in society they fall at birth.

All that being said, aside from nations such as the UAE and Jordan, (and possibly Baathist Iraq), there really haven't been and won't be any Arab nations who would be willing to shake up the social structure for the sake of a more efficient military. Especially now that the world has seen what a wide-scale revolution looks like in these nations, I believe they would stick to the status quo of losing wars but maintaining sovereignty rather than westernizing to win wars but possibly losing part of their identity in the process.

In short, the culture has been set up to do very well in an age of kings and armies marching hundreds of miles to lay siege to fortress cities, but it is hopelessly outdated in our modern era of conflict.

>>33538671
>blocks your path

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>>33536477
Thicc

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>>33528116
M50 Ontos

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ARL 44 is coolest looking tank.

A piece of outdated shit, but at least it looks cool.

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RAWKET LAWNCHAIR!

>>33561324
>All that money
>All those rockets
>All those platform deployments
>Never used in combat
Being Shillelagh is suffering.

>>33546414
M41 behind it?

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>>33538312

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Stridsvagn 103 stank

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>>33561932

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>>33536741
>M1 rifle
>M1 carbine
>M16 rifle
>M4 carbine
>M79 grenade launcher
>M48 Tank (my pick for this thread btw)
>M40 sniper rifle
>M14 rifle
>M21 sniper rifle
>M24 sniper rifle
>M18 claymore
>M72 LAW launcher
>M69 grenade
>M65 jacket
>M81 woodland camo pattern
>M60 light machine gun
>M249 light machine gun
>M777 Artillery gun

>M-murica really is this insecure

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The fact that the Jaguar never truly made it really makes me think we're in a wrong timeline.

>>33557278

>shittier version of the 90

I don't understand the Japs

>>33561747
>>33561324
>tfw you'll never be an airborne qualified tanker

>>33544195

>*need*

SHALL

>>33563287
BE