Nogunz here moving out of mommy and daddy's house in one

>>33518132
Glock 19.

>>33518132

Are you going to carry it or will it be strictly for home defense and range trips?
Are you 21 and able to buy a handgun or underage thus needing it to be a long gun?

>>33518140
Honestly this

>>33518140
/thread

>>33518166
>Are you going to carry it or will it be strictly for home defense and range trips?
home defense and range trips only
>Are you 21 and able to buy a handgun or underage thus needing it to be a long gun?
23 in Pennsylvania

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>>33518132
Beretta Px4 Compact

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>>33518132
Glock 17 is good, Glock 19 is a bit more compact.
Ruger SR9 that's pictured isn't bad.

The Ruger LCR next to it is also good, though snub nosed revolvers aren't easy for newbies, you'd do yourself a disservice. If you want that revolver, I'd suggest the 3 inch X model, has a longer sight radius, a bigger grip, and an exposed hammer; being able to cock your hammer helps with shooting.
It's commonly available in .38 Special, but if you can get it in 9mm that's better for you because ammo is much cheaper.

>>33518210
>23 in Pennsylvania
How old are you in other states?

Where are you in the PA?
The most glorious 412?
Or the dark areas of mordor (philly)

We can recommend a LGS

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Gp100

>>33518234
kek, just letting you know I'm not in commiefornia

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>>33518210
For home defense and range trips, I would suggest a full sized pistol, like a Glock 17, Beretta 92A1, M&P 9, or FNX9.

Go to a store and handle each, see how it feels.
If your pistol is going to be your home defense gun, I would recommend not just extended magazines (20 or 30 round ones, don't get cheap knockoffs, buy the company's own magazines or high quality aftermarket ones), but also that you fit a light on the front of it.

Also get electronic hearing protection, it protects your ears if you have to shoot your gun indoors in a home defense situation, on top of being good for the range. Spend the rest on decent plinking ammo and a good box of hollowpoints.

Finally, a pistol works, but I think that some day you should invest in a shotgun or rifle, it's good to have, and also it's fun.

>>33518238
I fucking love long-barreled Blackhawks, taken any Batwings yet?

>>33518235
lancaster county. I know some people who go to shooting ranges in harrisburg and that's where they get ammo.

With $800 as your budget, you've got a lot of options. If I were you, and I wasn't planning on carrying, I would look for a used full size fnx in either .45 or 9mm. Longer sight radius will give you better accuracy, and common caliber will mean you can find ammo anywhere to practice with. With the money you save on the pistol you can get yourself a quality light to mount on the rail, and refreshed night sights if the ones you get are dim.

You'd have a pretty ideal range/hd pistol. If your planning on carrying in the future, just get a used glock 19 and do the same thing.

Lower your power levels tards. OP just asked what (you) would get if you had $800 and no funs. Just tell him what you would buy and stfu. You fucking autists don't have to try to learn him the ways of the force.

And the answer is, of course, Glock 19.

>>33518250

Kek, I love that gun. Its got a scope mounted on it now and it's been known to rek stationary clay pigeons outside of 150 yards. It embarresses a lot of ar bros.

>>33518280
i'm still doing a lot of research so I'm okay with the long answers and extra advice honestly. I appreciate it tho senpai

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>>33518281
150 yards is quite respectable for any handgun. But seriously, what caliber, do you do any hunting with it?

>>33518354

.44 magnum, only hunting ive ever done was hog hunting in texas, and I felt horrible doing it, so I only hunt clay pigeons and cans.

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>>33518132
>What would you get if you had nothing and needed a new handgun for under $800?

A like new condition Smith & Wesson 5906 pistol, one with Novak style fixed sights and the old style of squared trigger-guard, refinished with cerakote and with the magazine disconnect removed, along with a stack of MecGar flush fitting 17rd magazines.

>>33518132
Ezpz glock. Reliability and availability of parts. If you're a poorfag, you can get them on the cheap in all the common calibers.

>>33518373
>not 5903
I love mine.

>>33518132
glock
bursa thunder

>>33518140
this. You can get a gen3 for 500 or a gen4 for 550. Might as well get the gen 4 because it comes with 3 mags. Spend the rest on ammo

>>33518140
Fpbp

G19 was my first handgun. Before you buy anything try and rest it out at a range. When you buy, buy new. After you buy spend as much time at the range with it as your schedule and budget allow.

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Look @ glawk, smiff & wesson m&p as a good place to start, go from there. $800 leaves your options pretty diverse, so try stuff out before you buy. Pic related, personal favorite.

>>33518132
My wife just bought a springfield XD for less than 700 out the the door, they're nice and teh GRIP ZONE is actually really comfy, as meme-tastic as it is

>>33518441
This. Whatever you get make sure you try it out, use it, and like it before making a purchase. After that focus on training and practice, your gun is only as good as you are

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>>33518140
This is your best bet, OP. Get a Gen 4 and a bunch of ammo.

Glad to see some people still have common sense and don't suggest special snowflake guns for new shooters

Get a Glock 34
Longer sight radius than the 19, and it's heavier, so you don't feel recoil as much
Other than that it's pretty much the same

>>33518562
>Glock 34
Anything larger than the standard line is absolutely disgusting. Also carrying a full size handgun around is retarded.

>>33518140
Don't even like glocks and this is a good answer.

If you really love revolvers or know you have a hard on for metal frames or are definitely planning to conceal carry it might be worth looking at other options, but if you don't know what you want besides "a gun" then a glock is the place to start.

You put the bullets in, you pull the trigger, they come out. Not a lot to go wrong.

this plus an assload of ammo

https://www.botach.com/beretta-92fs-police-special-9mm-pistols-w-3-magazines/

The average dude who needs a hammer just buys a regular hammer and hits nails. An enthusiast spends years trying every hammer and has favorites for different jobs.

Glock 19 is a regular hammer.

>>33518824
he wants a gun not a grenade anon

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>>33518132
CZ P-07
>>33518222
Or this. The full size isn't a very large gun either.

>>33518140
100% this.

>>33518132
HK or glock

>>33519505
Why not go full big boi and get a P-09 for dat full-length barrel and 19+1 out-of-the-box.

>>33519569
OP specified "small". It'd be a great option too if concealed carry wasn't a concern though.

>>33519709
I was thinking that the P-09 was trim and light enough to be acceptable for CC, but I guess you're right. OP might be thinking about something he can CC in a t-shirt and light shorts.

>>33518210

look at the ruger american compact in 9m

or the ruger 9e also in 9m

both of these are great guns & you will have plenty of $$ left over for ammo

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Lionheart LH9
Only 2 ounces heavier than a g19 and it's DA/SA metal framed with double action +

>>33518132
Steyr HS .50

You might find yourself wanting to concealed carry eventually. Glock26 will be even better for all around versatility if you only want to own one do everything pistol.
I prefer a glock17 over a 19. Feels better to me. If you're only using it for range and home then I would consider a 17 first.

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>>33518132
in all seriousness >>33518140 is your best choice. if not something like it
>glock 17/22/23
>M&P series
>walther ppq
>sig p320
>HK vp9

id stick with striker fired for now, theyre a bit easier to use, lighter, cheaper, and everybody is making them. Save an extra hundred or so dollars for a proper safe, holster or accessories. You can usually find good choices in the police trade in/used sections most gun stores have

>>33518132
Don't listen to these guys saying Glock 19. The SIG P320 Compact is better in every way and is around the same price.

>>33518140
The SIG P320 is better in every way.

>>33518210
Get a G20. If you're not intending on concealing it you might as well go fullsize, and might as well go all out since they're in the same price range.

>tfw missed out on a used G20 with Zen trigger for $530

>>33518132
I'd say see if you can get a CZ P-07, it's the compact version of the CZ P-09, which, if it's anything like that, it's reliable to a fault, even with shitty Tulammo 9mm, easy to disassemble, simply pull the slide back a little and knock a pin out, slides forward bam done. Magazine capacity is 15 rounds for the 9mm version, as well, 12 rounds for the 40 S&W version if you want that for some god-awful reason. MSRP's 510-524 dollars, too, so it's within your budget.

If it's anything like its big brother? Go for it.

>>33518140
This raises a question for me, why isn't there a Glock in .45 or 10mm with the same frame size?

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Look at a Canik 55 TP9

For $350, you get 2 17 round mags, a case, a holster, cleaning tools and a lock. Better than a Glock at half the price.

I'd go for a sig 320 in 9mm. Leaves some budget leftover for a light, bonus mags, or ammo.

I'd definitely stick with 9mm for now (cheap and low enough recoil you can try not to develop a flinch).

I don't think 'dedicated carry' was on your list, so get a full size. The weight will help you manage recoil.

What matters is how you will grip the pistol and pull the trigger. So, while I like the p320 there are 5+ very common pistols that meet your needs, no brand is perfect and most are good. Go finger fuck a dozen guns at your lgs.

If you don't already shoot, watch some YouTube videos on grip and trigger pull. It isn't as intuitive as you'd expect. Once you have an idea of grip and trigger pull, go finger those guns. Take home the one that feels best.

Oh, skip the revolver as a first gun.

CZ SP-01.

>>33519981
This is all learned from my ill informed first purchase. .40 with a grip that is too small and a trigger that pinches my finger way more often than I deserve.

>But I saw a review that said it was great.

People shill for their personal favorites but there is a wide variety because there is no consensus 'best for everyone' gun.

There are tools that fit each person better than others.
>sausage hands confirmed

>>33519977

fuck canik

don't support islamic terrorists buying their crap shit

>>33520098
You support islamic terrorists when you pay your taxes anyway.

>>33518234
dunno, but he'd be 24 in Korea

>>33520185
And 13f on myspace....

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spend a few more bucks OP

>>33520098
This is my relationship with Caracal
>really want to buy their guns, a Steyr M1+ and a HK416+
>really don't want to support ISIS by buying from Arabian Arabs

>>33520328
Well, if it makes you feel any better most Arab violence is directed at other Arabs?

>weak justification is weak (but still justification)

>>33520069
>trigger pinches my fingers
Are you functionally autistic?

>>33520489
Only possible explanation right?

Also, finger, not the plural fingers. So the curve of the trigger results in a different distance between the guard and the bottom of the trigger when pulled. As the trigger resets it can pinch a trigger finger that is low on the trigger.

Only the first pistol I bought does this, but nothing about it fits my hand right. My wife however loves it and has no issues.

>>33518368
Pussy

>>33518132
$800's plenty of budget. Consider an AR-15 if you're not going to conceal carry stuff. If committed to pistols, could probably get some Canik or EAA/Tanfoglio import *and* a cheap AR-15 for $800, check grabagun and slickguns.

If sticking with the pistol only, for some reason, I'd go with either a P320 (for plenty of ammo on tap) or a P938 (for concealability).

>>33518132
Get a Springfield XDm. Shoots good and has that little grip safety so as a nogunz you don't just glock leg yourself right away. Get a Glock later and then any other guns you like after that

>>33522503
>and has that little grip safety so as a nogunz you don't just glock leg yourself right away.
A good double action trigger is a better remedy for this than a grip safety on a striker pistol. Take a hard look at the P-series CZs and Beretta PX4 recommended above OP, very underrated pistols

>>33518132
Don't get the sr9 get the 9e so you can actually find sights for it

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>>33518132
don't listen to the special snowflake shit posted in this thread op
get a glock as your first gun

>>33522730
>anything not a glock is special snowflake shit
Why are glock shills invading /k/ so much lately?

>>33518132
Glock 17 or 19, but probably the 19.

>>33518210
>23 in PA
join chat
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1JYhCV8qmxX_MKVfaVnNGoK4eq_Y8ExPlm1CoevnXDwM/
drop an email, preferably one that doesn't have you real name in it

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>>33518132

>Compact
Ruger SR9c, available for around $360
>Compact Carry
Ruger LC9s about $290
>Fullsize
Ruger 9e about $300

>Defense Rifle
Ruger AR556 around 575-650

>Defense Shotgun
Mossberg 590 Tac about $350

I like ruger customer service. Mossberg are a bit wobbly, but its a sound design that doesnt fail too often.

My favorite Home defense gun is actually a relic. Browning Auto-5 Magnum. A Semi-auto shotgun that fires 3" #1buck about as fast as you can pull the trigger. I see them for $600 in excellent condition. It's a classy gun designed by John Browning.

>>33520036
>CZ SP-01.


Ruger fanboi re-reporting.

CZ is an amazing pistol as well.

Berreta PX4

Another great pistol, with a recoil reduction design that actually works.

Smith and wesson M&P have very lousy triggers, You had better try one first if you are going to consider one.

HK and Sig are expensive for the sake of being Expensive. If you shoot it well, there's no reason not to get one, but I don't see any major advantage over american guns. Sig, FN, HK customer service are all notoriously difficult to deal with . "What do you mean there's a problem with one of OUR guns?! Do you realise how much we CHARGE for these things?" Yeah, I sortof do....

>>33519934
Because at that frame size it would be a single stack, and you need beefier gun for those (hot loads)

>>33518140
The Walther PPQ is superior in every way

>>33518235
>>33518255
join chat >>33522850

>>33518824

This is coming from someone who has never actually done any manual labor before.

>>33518132
Buy a cobra derringer

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Coming from someone who recently purchased a Glock 19....

Glock knuckle
Erratic ejection
Magazine wobble if you buy Gen 3
Have fun finding Gen 3 Mags
Hard to shoot

Glock 19 isn't a pick up and aim gun. The trigger is awful, like shooting a nerf gun. Also, it's so fucking light, your support hand becomes your dominant hand, if you don't want to shoot low and to the left all of the time. Just my 2 cents after purchasing one...

>>33529239

Oh, I also forgot, weak slide spring, so sometimes gun will go into battery after slamming a mag into the well. Glocks are the most overrated guns.

CZ P01 or CZ75

Go to a gun store and finger fuck every handgun they have within your budget. If they won't let you go find another gun store. When you find one that you feel absolutely fits you like a glove ask if they have a range to try one out. Failing that, check your local ranges and see if they have one to rent. Go there and put a box of ammunition through it. Still feel like it was made for you? If so, buy that gun. Buy it in a common caliber that you can afford a lot of (obvious choices would be 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP or .357/.38).

>>33518594
I do love shooting a G34. If I had to get that large of a gun for home defense, it would be the G40.

But

>>33518140
FPBP.

For a starter gun that, if you're big enough, you can conceal.. Parts, mags and ammo are always plentiful and cheap.

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they had these used police Beretta 92FSs a month or so back on slickguns for $300-350. That's breddy good. I'm not a fanboy or anything, but theyre a decent pistol for a decent price innit.