Could America (from a purely military perspective) conquer Canada

Yes.

The US has very well equipped and trained armored elements, so it can pretty much deal with all comers in an armored brawl.

Throw in the strategic interdiction capabilities the USAF and USN bring to the table, and you're looking at some 1991 style fisting.

Also, it'd be an excuse for Trump to intern all the Mexicans.

>>33501920
>implying Mexico isn't subtly conquering the US

>>33501920
Yes considering not much effort would be needed against canada due to all their infrastructure being located right on the border. So, conquer canada in a months time and send the bulk of the force down to mexico to play around in the desert and waste spics.

>>33501920
Yes, except good luck dealing with post war Mexico and their cartel insurgencie, along with all the communists in the areas and leftists that are much worse than the progressive liberals in the US. Don't forget the fucking Latin American states bordering Mexico that has a border problem there too

>>33502096
It's simple. We offer an ultimatum to the cartels. Either work for the US in the legal drug trade or die. Those that choose to suck on JDAM for breakfast will be easily replaced or not depending on how much of a monopoly you'd want on the drug industry. Then do some selective killing, instill a new government and reap the rewards of the drug trade. Turn mexico into a nice country and then tell south america to fuck off by building a wall.

>>33502144
>implying usa cant withstand the mexican cartel mighty

I remember reading somewhere that the US could supposedly handle a 3 front war. The army could fight 2 and the Marine Corps could fight a 3rd.

Don't know how true that is though.

>>33502309
That was a GW Bush strategic doctrine, where his goal was to have the US armed forces ready to do what you described.

Sure, but it would be stupendously expensive, more so if their was a realistic buildup to the start of the conflict.

If the USA has the political motivation and public support to attack, then Mexico and Canada would have a similar level of support to fight back and do damage.

>>33502335
>tfw live in Canada
>i would fully be willing to stand on the sidewalk and give the US soldiers very angry glares as they goose stepped by

>>33502144
The cartels only exist because of because of rampant Mexican corruption.

Liquidate the govt and the cartels at the same time. Problem solved.

>>33502219
Thats been the situation for that last 45 years hasn't it? The USA has a military that could fuck over 3/4ths of the world easily but they don't because of:

>Vietnam era civil unrest

If the US would just get of its ass and fucking eradicate all the world's hotspots we wouldn't have to worry about shit like:

>Syrian refugees

>>33501947
>Throw in the strategic interdiction capabilities the USAF and USN bring to the table, and you're looking at some 1991 style fisting.

I
I want this

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Its impossible to take the 2nd largest country in the world, its to much landmass to take. Placing elements in key positions (cities) is fine, however Canadians would act the same as you would, resistance groups and guerilla warfare. They have more guns per capita than the US, and a lot of country to hide in, WOLVERINES! Besides you've also got the commonwealth allies to worry about, as well as A LOT of allies that are more than willing to stand up for Canada.

>>33502622
Russia and china as well

No, because in order to conquer Canada we'd have to kill some people, and if you kill your enemies, they win.

>>33502622
>"oh shit this dude has a gun"
>9 shots later
>out of ammo

>>33502622
>most of canadian landmass is semi inhabitable tundra/arctic

Ever hear of those IJA soldiers that lived on deserted islands well into the 70's? That would essentially be Canada but with survivalist caribou hunters instead.

Doesn't matter anyways as Canada and the USA are probably the most closely related counties in the world.

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>>33502701
semi-uninhabitable*

The day of the rake cannot come soon enough.

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>>33502622
>hack RCMP website.
>all semi-auto magazine fed rifles are illegal.
>cucknuck's comply with order.
>War Plan Red is a go.
>Take Canada in 3 days.
>Destroy all Tim Horton's
>Lock down all cities.
>Wait till winter.
>deploy drones with FLIR.
>Canadians show up like a spotlight.
>Remove Goose.

>>33502711
i am a south american who wishes to join an stanger military(south america is so fucking boring, the only country here with anything that resemble an military force is brazil), is canada a good destination, also, how dificcult it is to get green card?

>>33502622
they don't have more guns per capita, they have less than 1/3rd of the guns per capita as the us.

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>>33502757
hi
time to selpt

>>33502776
Why dont you go ask >>>mlpol ?

>>33502788
we're at 70 per 100 guns
only people that don't own guns are inner city cucks
if you leave the city, there's a gun in every single home

>>33502833
mlpol?
Also
you are talking about military things, its just aproveiting

>>33502848
I have to agree with this anon's post. Even people that don't have a PAL have at the very least a .22lr.

I remember hearing that for every PAL owner there is one unlicensed firearm owner in Canada.

>>33501920
>conquer
Please define...

>>33501920

in a no limits total war with zero worry of civil unrest?

yes

>>33501920
> image cropped for space reasons
FUCKING SHILLS. EVEN ON /k/ THEY ARE SUPRESSING EVIDENCES OF A FLAT EARTH

>>33502622
yeah but we could hold you for like 30 years though

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>>33503110
>everyone already knows what happened to the dinosaurs

>>33502096

Honestly I think large portions of Mexican society would probably be ok with a U,S. intervention as long as it was carried out in an intelligent and respectable manner.

Most people in Mexico are poor as shit and just want to live in peace with the basic services and protections that a developed nation like the U.S. can provide. I can't imagine them waging an insurgency for either the horribly corrupt government or the throat slitting, child raping cartels.

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>>33502622
>Its impossible to take the 2nd largest country in the world, its to much landmass to take.

Who cares of the landmass, the spoils are in the border towns

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>>33501920

Militarily you'd have a fair bit of initial resistance in Canada, but even as a patriotic Canadian I'm not sure how long we could keep it up. Not to mention our capital and seat of government is like an hour away from the border.

The RCMP's a bit of a wildcard. They'd either welcome you with open arms if you offered them the chance to govern or enforce new laws (those redcoat fucks love power). Or they'd go full retard and light you guys up if you didn't play nice with them and give them power or governance. Not that they'd be much of a problem.

Actually occupying us would be tough though, we're ridiculously spread out, especially up in the northern parts of the provinces. Lots of landmass to cover. The guys up in the territories and small towns probably wouldn't even know about the invasion for a couple weeks.

Personally I'm not sure. I mean, your fun laws are a lot better than ours....my inner patriot is telling me to pick a few of you off if you ever rolled into my town.

>>33502774
It would be easier than that, many of the gun owners in Canada would love to have 2A rights, shall issue CC and, because we actually have jobs, lower taxes.

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>>33502096
>invade Mexico
>get to shoot commies

>>33502774
>>Destroy all Tim Horton's
saying this as an american, you can fuck right off with this one

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>>33503506
Kill any and all foreign invaders anon, I'll fight alongside you. Otherwise accept your friends to the south. They share all of our values, and I love them for it.

I'd sign up for an invasion of Canada for some syrupy war brides.

>>33503506
are you willing to die for your national values canuck?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmTz7EAYLrs

If so it's better to chant death and be willing to accept it than to blindly step aside and accept slavery.

>>33502096
>Don't forget the fucking Latin American states bordering Mexico that has a border problem there too

But that's a significantly smaller border to deal with, it would be very easy to build wall there. Or just also take over Guatemala and Belize and have an even smaller border on your hands.

>>33503875
I feel like this entire scenario would end up like one of my Civilization games. Where I say I'm playing for a cultural victory but then end up waging war against my entire continent and then the world.

You know, because Manifest Destiny bitches

Would Quebec willingly ally with a foreign invasion against the rest of Canadia?

>>33503964
Probably.

Kill all Quebecois, they are seditionist scum.

From a pure military standpoint, the US would blow through their armies like shit through a goose.

From a practical perspective, it could never happen because of the close historical ties between the countries and public perception of the US fucking with allies, or at least destroying our neighbors.

Having said that, Mexico could be overrun by a drug cartel at any moment, as they are all fucked up on all civilization levels.

On the other hand, an invasion of Canada would lead into protracted guerrilla warfare that would never be controlled until a "kill them all and salt the Earth" policy was somehow accepted.

The frostbacks might have a small army, but they're really good.

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>>33501967

SOON

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>>33503793
Get Alaska out of there you stupid crack whore. >Shitty crack whore gun laws.
>No legal crack whore weed.

It would be very hard because Canadian military personnel regularly work as attaches and "on exchange" on American bases. This goes both ways, but would probably lead to disproportionate American damage; there are more Canadians serving in the US than the other way around. Your military is basically loaded with enemy sappers.

Then you have places like Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal that are great locales for urban insurgency.

Lastly, do you think China or Russia would tolerate such an upset of the global balance? It's not Canadians or Mexicans you'd have to worry about, so much as Chinese/Russian "peacekeeping". America may be the strongest military nation on earth today, but it cannot hold back three or four major powers.

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>>33504926
>but it cannot hold back three or four major powers.

But it has and can

>>33504926
>Canadian military
That's pretty much the equivalent of out volunteer fire dept.

>>33504938
When in the last 50 years has America held back a global power in a hot war?

>>33503941
>Where I say I'm playing for a cultural victory but then end up waging war against my entire continent and then the world.
I just stopped pretending that any other victory matters in Civ. Now I just play for a military victory through eternal war against the civs that have bonuses in combat.

>>33504992
Yeah, in V I just turned off the other victory types all together in solo matches. Nothing beats that point of the game where America nukes everyone back to the stone age.

>>33501920
>conquer Canada
>ywn be part of the invading force into Canada and capture yourself a qt French Canadian comfort girl

>>33504662
Dont shoot the glacial!!

>>33502681
underrated post

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>>33505187
It's funny when Global warmer "scientists" find my bullets.

>>33503506

Remove all invading burgers with a hail of .303

Welcome polite visiting burgers with poutine and tours of Capitol Hill

>>33503964
They would if offered increased distinct-society rights, extending a bit into maine, vermont and new hampshire.
>>33503875
That border would be so much smaller, they could just build an interoceanic canal at a reasonable cost.

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>>33503355
>U,S. intervention
>carried out in an intelligent and respectable manner.

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>>33501920

>>33503122
Until the American people decide enough is enough, too many soldiers have died.

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>>33501980
>>33501947
>>33502309

Capturing land is easy. Holding on to it is what's hard.

>>33503500
Except literally all the resources worth a damn are north. Water, oil, metal. oil, uranium/thorium, oil. Good luck, muskag is a cunt and a half, not to mention the fact that with one road system, you have a lot of one bridge situations. For example highway 69 north if you blow just one bridge its 1200km to go around.

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>>33506744
>For example highway 69 north if you blow just one bridge its 1200km to go around.

If there's one thing the US is good at it's river crossings

>>33506743

France should be blue as well

>>33504623
>proud mexican
>refuses to live in mexico

>>33501920
Why on earth would the US invade Canada? We're like brothers. We have some cultural differences but we're essentially the same. It would be a waste of lives and resources. It'd be like stabbing your twin brother.

We already defeated Mexico in 1854 but gave most of it back. It wasn't worth keeping, but we did get Arizona, New Mexico, and California out of it. No need to invade....just build a big fucking wall.

>>33502096
They would just move farther south.

>>33506669
this

>>33502420
speaking as a Canadian, I would stop holding doors open for them and may even resort to not saying thank you anymore to them.

>>33501947
As a Canadian in the military , yeah, we would be easily invaded. We probably don't have much if anything in the way of border defense. Hell, the U.S has more tanks in Canada than Canada has in all.

>>33502622
>They have more guns per capita than the US
The US has more than 40% of the world's firearms, so that's a negatory.

>>33506743
It's not hard to keep captured land if you're willing to kill everyone there.

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>>33503506
>patriotic Canadian
nice meme faggot. there's no distinct canadian identity to be patriotic about.

you know what armed canadians like? Guns. Who would further their interest in that respect, allegiance with Trudeau or welcoming American annexation? fucking hell how could leafs be so retarded about this on /k/ of all places.

>>33506743
France, China, Laos, Mongolia, Cambodia, Thailand should all be blue.

>>33502776
you have to stay there

>>33505160
Hahahaha
trust me, you don't want to touch anybody from Quebec

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>>33506776
>>33508871

It wasn't Vietnam it was Indochina so it doesn't count.

>>33503122
And for what? You'd lose more wealth in the invasion and occupation through losses and attrition than you would gain in natural resources. When it's all over and you finally are forced to retreat from Canada you'd have completed destroyed what was a once awesome relationship with your neighbor.

Far better that the US and Canada be friends, allies, and trading partners. It benefits both countries.

>>33508852
Germans tried that and they still lost. Also it's kind of hard to exploit natural resources of the land you captured when you killed off the entire labor force. Bringing in new people to repopulate it takes hundreds of years.

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>>33506895

>Implying it wasn't taken from Mexico

Lets be realistic, if America wanted to conquering Canada would be a peice of cake. With the United States vastly superior military it could easily take over Canada's major cities. After that it's just a matter of waiting for the resistance movements in the tundra to die out for lack of supplies. As for Mexico I don't know for sure exactly what that kind of terrain would be like for conflict but considering Mexico's military disadvantage I'm going to say that would be a sinch to. And don't even mention the cartels. Criminal organisations don't fight the US military head on and win. The worst thing about the cartel wouldn't be it's strength but more it's all pervasive nature.

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>>33501920

the air force alone would fuck them up

>>33501920
fuck no
western militaries shoot themselves in the foot with bureaucracy and pants on head retarded procedure

it would take more effort than the american can be bothered to do let alone be allowed to do whats neccessary

even if they could ignore cuck rules, invading canada would piss off the UK, who has nukes, and Mexico isnt functional enough to where taking the capital meant taking the country, you would have to invade every state, from baja to chiapas jungles ruled by commies that arent even a part of mexico anymore in any practical sense

>>33501920
Geographically Canada and Mexico have little to offer the US

>>33505252
Why not just use fucking crossbows while you're at it, like that one leaf last year?

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>>33501920
We'd get in there and fuck shit up good for a few months, but when occupation came, we'd crumble. The US is dogshit at COIN.

>>33501920
Faster than the Jews beat Jordan and Egypt. The difference is Mexicans would welcome civilization and government with open arms instead of forming the Mexican Liberation Organization to stop settlements in Tijuana.

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>>33510367

>>33510491
>The US is dogshit at COIN.

Everyone's dogshit at it.

>>33501920
No.
>U.S. declare war on drugs
>Drugs win
>Mexico has drugs

>>33509542
You lost the war cuck, get over it.

>>33510719

We're the majority in many of your cities and states, get over it

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>>33510760
Yet you're still getting cucked and don't hold any of the land you claim to be yours.

I'm not even American and this is funny to me.

>>33510760
I'm mixed race mexican, why the fuck do you want to turn america into the rotting shit hole that is mexico right now?

>>33501920
Forget all the whys and whens. Answering the original question. Yes of course they could; as long as Russia and China stay out of it. Hell they could probably take Australia at the same time just for the challenge.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red

>>33503576
Lol this. Many Canadian gun owners would welcome our new overlords.

>>33511392

>Winnipeg
>Important

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>>33502096

>tfw you'll never get to operate against cartels, completely ignoring human rights.

Why live?

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>>33509542
You have to go back

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>>33511972
>tfw you will never gun down cartel members from a helicopter with a minigun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55b3v-fjJw

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>>33510760
Not quite.

And New Mexico is the only state with a Hispanic majority. Fitting, I suppose.

>>33503576
You guys will provide the high-quality citizens and natural resources while Mexico will provide the strategic territory and thicclets

>>33509100
Same people,same place,same thing.The only difference is;the USA pulled out,you were beaten.
>>33509542
If the mexicans were more like the french,mexico would be a much better place

>>33508821

I have heard that the Canadian military is heavily trained in the ways of apologizing, Can do so in ten different languages. How accurate is that?

>>33501920
Yeah, wouldn't be worth it though.

>>33510566
But Canada already sells their oil to us at a 10~15% discount.

No reason to invade them when they're already good clients.

If they ever went full retard and demanded market price for it though, maybe an invasion would be in order.

>>33511914
Winnipeg is a major transportation hub.

>>33512441
That's complete fucking bullshit.
Only JTF2 has to know ten or more.
Regular soldiers only have to be able to do it in french and english while the Vandoos only have to do it french.

>>33503500
>spoils

The entire GTA and southern Ontario is practically liberal cancer with little farmland, you guys can have it.

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>>33503500
>Canada loves America so much that Hudsons bay looks like a mini USA

>>33501920
We could, but it'd be utterly pointless.

>>33502701
They didn't live on uninhabited islands, they were well known specifically because they would routinely raid nearby farms and kill villagers while "foraging". When you really are in the middle of nowhere with no stockpiles to keep you provisioned, you won't last that long, and moreso you can't work as an insurgency if you don't attack nearby infrastructure and population centers.

We really don't need your american niggers shitting up our city. We have enough problems with the fucking muslims.

>>33512573

Don't regular have to learn a 3rd now, because of all the mudslimes that are flowing into the country?

>>33512619
If we invade, then our screening and deportation policies will fix that problem

>>33511392
>Detroit troops invading Toronto

Just what we need, more nigger turf wars.

>>33511914
YOU STUPID IDIOT!

>>33512647
The funny thing is I would probably be okay with the US government if it fixed some of the major issues with overcompartmentalization and groups that routinely operate outside of the law, like the NSA and CIA. Though with recent events it's looking like the possibilities of those groups being dissolved are rising under the god emperor trump.
Yknow what, fuck it. You can invade us, just kill all those inner city nigger gangs first. And adopt a workable healthcare system.

>>33512772
>ywn partake in the Second American Revolution that ends with citizen militias tearing down the CIA, NSA, ATF, and DEA
FBI can stay though, as long as they make Kyle McLachlan an honorary agent.

>>33512797
On second thought, fuck the FBI too. Remove Alphabet

>>33512797
The FBI is one of the only groups I really don't take issue with. They seem to perform their jobs properly and keep their noses out of the shit for the most part.
Still that problem with your inner city gangs though.
And detroit needs to be wiped off the face of the planet. So does Flint.

>>33509587
The insurgency would make Iraq (what's it been ten fucking years) look amateur.
We would sneak into your cities if attacked and sabotage food on shelves causing panics, fuel depot atomic generation facilities, chemical industry, and mass transit. We can and would cost more for occupation than just buying our stuff

>>33502096
heh, tell the mexicans they get free SSI, foodstamps, welfare, and medicaid as long as they dont show their asses, and juanito and paco's granny will go down to the local gangsta spot and drag them out and beat them over the head with a broom to knock that shit off estupido pendejos!!

then the paving companies make MAD FUCKING DOSH fixing roads, and civil engineering firms set up shit to US standards.

a United States of North America would be a fucking unstoppable fortress of asskicking once the bugs get worked out.

just the boost to the economy for heavy construction, water and sanitation and infrastructure would be insane.

>>33512824
Michigan on the whole is fucked. If it wasn't so abundant with natural beauty it would have zero defenders. The problem is that they have zero purpose. No one gives a shit about logging anymore, no one gives a shit about industry, the north is beautiful and gets a lot of money from tourism, Traverse City is very nice and probably the most functional city in Michigan, but everyone there is poor.

At first I was willing to give the FBI a pass because they do actual work that isn't just power-mongering but they're totally okay being the mailed fist of every other alphabet agency so they're complicit.

Canadian sleeper cells would be active and probably get supports from Russia Chinese and European countries and push in your shit.
America couldn't invade Canada and they know it

>>33502774
>>Destroy all Tim Horton's
I'm a southerner, but I have had Tim Horton's coffee, that is uncalled for.

you need to get your shit right son. canadians are guilty of many sins, but creating Tim Hortons makes up for most of them. RUSH makes up for the rest.

Canadian government would distribute SAM and manpads to constantly fuck with logistics and through attrition gradually degrade the American will to keep fighting.
The whole world knows after Vietnam and Iraq if you keep fighting Americans cut and run. Just gotta keep slotting flabbies

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>>33503500
wheres nootka on that map?

MMMMM

>>33508869
this.

The real question would be whether we become 10-13 new states or would we change up our divisions?

>>33502774
you'd actually get here to see the gun owners have finally had the last straw and have burned it all down as an offering to become a state with good gun laws.

>>33513018
our gubbermint wouldn't even unban bx25 mags let alone give us manpads. RCMP would round up all the resistance fighters for possession of unpinned mags for summary execution.

>>33513018
And there would be holes in their defenses all over the place because of the people that would be more than willing to work with the americans. You'll see that in the prairies and throughout northern ontario. Probably in Quebec too if the americans let the quebecois maintain sovereignty. Most certainly if the quebecois are promised independence for their co-operation.
You have no idea how divided the liberal party and the NDP have made this country.

>>33513053
It's actually very visible you FUCKING AMERICAN

>>33513202
Our VBIED and IED technology would make Iraq look like amateurs. We can seamlessly assimilate into American culture and strike massive blows to their infrastructure. Gather information for other nations intelligence agencies to help us. We would spread out and live off the land or get resources from air drops. This would force Americans to deploy more troops in northern and remote areas. They would become easy targets. The artic will be an important part of the game and American will to freeze and die won't last long

>>33513202
I'll be mastered by no Yankee bastard.
We will stand on guard for thee.

>>33501920

Canada? Easily. Mexico? Mexico might look like a shabby piece of junk, but it has a dozen cartels that are as rich as the DoD and would be willing to use the blackmarket to sneak a nuke from NK and decapitate the US.

Don't underestimate the power of money.

>>33509460
>Germany tried that
What alternative history do you live in?

If they just go guns blazing mexico will be trouble.

However if they play their cards right there'll be little resistance.

>>33513486
Doesn't think if fat claps invade Canada we won't ask Iran Norcs or Russia for nukes fuck even British government may had a few hundred over. Mexico would be far easier than Canada we would burn down your White House again if you invaded our country

>>33513486
Hope you don't have a drought when you invade because Canadian insurgents would set fire to any forest or grasslands. Water polluted, pipeline sabotage, tracks sabotaged, roads and bridges rigged. Computers hacked, drone attacking, American traitors would let us into city's to destroy things.
American military know attacking Canada would be like riding a tiger.

>>33504926
China and Russia have no viable trans-continental force projection though, unless we're talking ICBM's and the like.

Besides, it's stupid to try and beat America through military actions, just have everyone else in the world slap the US with sanctions and cause their economy to collapse.

>>33502776
Join the Colombians as they gear up to conquer Venezuela.

>>33510775
>they're invading your cities
>but they're the cucked ones
kekkling in heck

>>33511972
fuck you buddy, human rights are hold civilization together

>>33513654
>implying Canada wouldnt shit their pants and surrender immediately before apologizing

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>>33502622
I dunno. Would Canadians fight for their country? Aren't they sort of European Esq? Most Europeans don't seem to give a shit about their country's sovereignty.

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>>33508869
I honestly don't get how a country doesn't speak one language. Are you even a country or a people at that point if a large chunk of you refuse to communicate to the rest?

>>33509542
>Mexican government is shit
>Texas leaves Mexico because Mexican government is shit
>Texas agrees to be annexed by the United States
>United States tells Mexico not to fuck with Texas
>Mexico fucks with Texas
>Mexico gets all their shit kicked in
REEEE TEXAS IS MEXICAN CLAY

>>33501920
fighting on two fronts on home soil is always a challenge unless one of them is Andorra-tier

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>>33501920
Why would anyone fight the Americans if we invaded them? Canadians get better gun laws and free speech, and Mexicans get all that and a police and military that doesn't exist to serve the cartels.

>>33514492
Both parties can be cucked. Fatties are cucked because we have too many neuroses wrapped around the power we have to use it. The Brown Horde are cucked because they lack any sort of agency, liberty, or efficacy. They're a force of nature directed to wherever someone wants them.

>>33501920
>Huuur my dad could beat up your dad: the post

A fuckin thread died for this

>>33514683
Canadians are very Nationalistic even if we come across as faggy liberals a lot of the time.

I mean fuck people flipped shit when Heinz stopped using Canadian tomatoes in their Ketchup, you really think we wouldn't care about being occupied by a foreign force?

>>33501980
Won't be that easy. I'm an American and proud as fuck but those cartel fucks are ruthless and supplied by our government with what weapons they have (or mostly the majority of what they have and have gotten)

>>33502622
>more guns per capita than the US
holy shit
is that true?
I think that's the only the US can't beat

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>>33514683
So the moral of the story is the USA should invade Europe.

>>33503875
>I'll just take this country and this country
>and then the other two next to this country
this can get very complicated very fast
also reminder that Mexico has its own illegal immigrant problem with Guatemalans
do you really want to deal with people that even Mexico doesn't want?

>>33515623
>Canadians are very Nationalistic
fucking hell you're delusional. what's it like in that white paradise of a small town your probably live in?

most """canadians""" don't give a shit and this country is simply the least worst option for them. there is no discernible canadian culture or identity to be nationalistic about. inb4 muh hockey, muh soggy fries.

as for reaction to an occupying force, see >>33508869.

>Fight NATO partner and member of the British Commonwealth
>Invade ally and trading partner

This is the sort of question that a teenager would ask.

>>33503500
>Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta are more lit up than British Columbia
>Alberta is the most lit up outside of the Maritimes and Ontario
>that diagonal line across the prairie provinces
what in the fuck?
also
>typing Saskatchewan right the first time but not British Columbia

>>33508839
you realize Canada has like 10% of America's population, right? they'd only need one tenth as many guns to have the same amount per capita

>>33514683
they had the worst of both world wars, they're still tired
in a few generations it'll level out; there are still some baby boomers around who were raised pacifist, and lots of their kids who were often raised the same

>>33514764
they all speak English except the populous areas of Quebec and a lot of the areas that are still wilderness and inhabited by Native North Americans, which speak their own languages most of the time but usually know enough English to get by

>>33515775
>per capita
why does this even matter.

there are like 2 million licensed gun owners at best.

>>33513834
I don't know
is anyone really sure what China's submarine program is like?

>>33512824
hey, I live near Flint
if Flint goes there's fuck all in this entire county
they have the only observatory and the only arts center anywhere remotely near here and a bunch of colleges
I might lose my job working in the next town over
>>33512939
Michigan never hurt anyone! Michigan is a good boy! You'll need enormous amounts of fresh water one day, and apples, and potatoes, and salt! Who will you turn to but Michigan?

>>33513196
Canada's never been directly attacked, at least not since it became it's own country
having your life on the line can change things

>>33513567
IIRC the British nukes have to be unlocked with an American code to be used
pretty pathetic really
although I wouldn't be surprised if they have a way around that

>>33501920
isnt something like 90% of canadas population within 100 miles of the border? canada would be KOd overnight. Mexico would be a PITA but ultimately they have no chance.

Why waste time and resources on two fronts when you can concentrate on one at a time anf overwhelm your target? This is of course possible for an attacking army only

>>33516003
You should very much doubt that random fact

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>>33501920

Gonna have to wait until those two balkanize before we can realistically think about invading

>>33515869
>why does this even matter.
because the statement being made is that they're armed to the teeth
the more well-armed they are the harder it's going to be to take them down

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>>33502144
Sounds like the setup for House of the Scorpion.

>>33502096
I'm 100% sure that the majority of the people in Mexico would not mind a US intervention. The cartel there is the big bad in Mexico and they have no meaningful way to fight them. The government is against them so they can call the police, the cartels will behead your extended family if you try to speak out against them so you can try to rile people up in a strength in numbers kind of way and you can't go full vigilante mode because when you die and someone is like ''hey isn't that Hector from two streets over'', they will go and kill your family. People are so afraid of the cartel that they rather cross a bunch of dangerous land to try to get into a different country so their kids aren't killed when their dad is tells a cartel member to eat shit. All they need something/one to rally behind and that something could be the US military physically removing the cartels.
>>33505629
sadly this
>>33512937
>bribe them
This would work even better then what I said since people like two things 1. security and 2. money.
>United States of North America
Fully erect
>>33513539
also this

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>>33505258
We seriously need that 200 mile Canal. Even if it doesn't actually connect the oceans.

>>33501920

Canada by itself, sure.

Canada and the U.K.? Not so sure.

Mexico by itself? Not so sure.

Mexico and all the central and southern American countries that'll come to the fight? Not so sure.

Americans that invade Canada will die cold and tired.

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>>33506755
>Not posting the most memorable river crossing.

>>33508065

I won't say sorry to them. Even if it's totally my fault.

...probably... fucking Pavlovian training.

>>33501920
>invading your allies
>invading a NATO member, a group you are part of

I mean what could go wrong? It's not like Europe would lose it's collective shit on America, not to mention trade partners like China, Russia, and South America.

>>33510760
I hope you realize that the trains are already rolling south.

>>33504958

>says 50
>because if he said 70 there would be an obvious answer

>>33509460

>implying Germans tried that

>implying germany didnt do amazingly well regardless considering they were at war with essentially the whole world

>>33518748
>invading a NATO member, a group you are part of
Well to be fair some members of NATO just deserve to be glassed.
Looking at you, Turkey.

>>33509460
I'm sure you weren't around for the flood of oil folk moving in and out of ND over the years. Companies offer money to move

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>>33504623
This really activates my almonds.

>>33504926
The most salient issue with Russian/Chinese intervention is they, as it currently stands, have near zero Force projection capability. Their militaries are aimed at regional, mostly land based hegemony AT BEST. Like, as a goal. It would take another 50 years of American regression from the world stage and demilitarization before they build up that kind of capability.

Then there's the problem of the US Navy. A war against Canada and Mexico would be mostly ground based, with a likely blockade and an increase in the number of littoral combat craft to interdict smugglers. The USN would have to be eviscerated before a landing would be possible, otherwise any serious invasion force would be at the bottom of the pacific a thousand miles from the West Coast.

>>33504958
That's evidence of our great success as a military; we have sufficient strength and reach to act as a deterrent--to militate any major hostile action before it has the opportunity to begin, as it were.

>>33507038
>1854
Lol wut?

>>33509834
>I know nothing about recent history or warfare
You will never win anything from the sky alone.

>>33510491
>The American people, specifically politicians and sycophantic brass lack the intestinal fortitude to properly conduct COIN
Fixed

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>>33509834
>some people actually believe this kind of shit

>>33519585

>What was Yugoslavia

>>33519908
What are you talking about? Are you seriously asserting that no NATO troops were on the ground? That no Americans were on the ground? That we didn't have peacekeeping troops in former Yugoslavia well after 9/11? Read a book, fuckhead

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>>33519933

You can't be serious.

Peacekeepers were sent in AFTER the Air Force had already secured Clinton's goals. The Peacekeepers were not essential to Clinton's foreign policy goals in Yugoslavia

>Implying they could conquer either

When a bunch of cigar smoking boxers can repel your invasion force, your credibility takes one hell of a hit.

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>>33519980
Even if that were true, which it's not, it's irrelevant; ground forces were required to secure and maintain the final victory.

>>33513421
Don't worry friendo, even the burgers aren't stupid enough to try.

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>>33512772
>And adopt a workable healthcare system
Why don't you just make one in your own state? There's nothing stopping you, or California, or Texas from making their own healthcare systems.

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>>33513202
>The artic will be an important part of the game and American will to freeze and die won't last long
Are you assuming that the average Canadian has the will or means of surviving in the arctic?

>>33520101

Militaries are never made up of the average.

Yes, the civilians will have to be sacrificed to an extent.

LOS HISPANOS HUNDIDOS DE AMERICA

Although this thread is hypothetical, I don't think Mexico would ever turn its back and try to fight the US if anything it will be Mexico-USA vs Canada, but Canada has Alaska to the NW so they would be fucked.

>>33508935
>trust me, you don't want to touch anybody from Quebec
Why though?

>>33514510
Smug anime face

Due to lefty faggots within the US, long term Spic infiltration over the last few decades, and possible Commonwealth repucussions from the Canada campaign , I think the US would win, but would in no way be better for it.

If they wasted Mexico, the world would just go along, like we have with Iraq, etc.

Waste Canada, and the warmonger image would actually catch up with them. I don't think the US could avoid the isolation that would follow.

Maybe the chinks would retain normal relations, as they're so morally bankrupt they'd continue business until they were next on the firing line.

Shitposting Ausfag out.

>>33514764
Really? Do you honestly believe everyone in the US speaks english?

>>33518686
Jesus anon, it was a joke. I mean this whole thread is a too stupid for real answers.

>>33506743
Burma and Liberia also use the American system.

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>>33501947
>strategic interdiction
That's a contradiction.

Don't use words you don't understand, Trayvon. Interdiction is within the tactical realm, degrading the enemy's tactical and operational capacity. It is not even close to strategic anything.

You are just as bad as the people who think "indirect fire" means high-angle fire

>>33502774
>Destroy all Tim Horton's
Liberating Tim Hortons is half the reason we're invading.

>>33522556
>people who think "indirect fire" means high-angle fire

What's an example of indirect fire which isn't high-angle?

>>33510673
>War on drugs

That's like war on weather.

>>33522556
Ugggh! This creature needs to go into the moat!

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>>33501920
>two-front war

>>33509100
It was North Vietnam when the us fought so I guess that doesn't count either
Btw the Chinese lost in the 1980s

>>33512939
>At first I was willing to give the FBI a pass because they do actual work that isn't just power-mongering but they're totally okay being the mailed fist of every other alphabet agency so they're complicit.
Just remember Waco and Ruby Ridge

>>33524887
>implying that matters when Canada's military is literally the size of the NYPD
>implying that matters when Mexico's military is literally just a bunch of corrupt paramilitary police officers

Stop buying into the retarded le WWII two front may may

There have been plenty of wars fought on two fronts in which the aggressor won. You just have to be not retarded.

>>33513834
>just have everyone else in the world slap the US with sanctions and cause their economy to collapse.
BINGO!

>>33501920
yes. but why? it makes much more sense to have a buffer state to our North between us and russia, and who would even WANT Mexico? if we took them over, they would become OUR problem. build the fucking wall and let them rot.

>>33527135
>build the fucking wall and let them rot.
We don't need a wall. All we need to do is to stop giving out the freebies that were started by the klintoon administration

>>33509100
it was Vietnam when Laos, Cambodia, and China lost, you illiterate subhuman pedophile.

>>33512075
>Mexico was losing a war to the Coaches in Texas.
>Offered money to convicts to go to Texas, the convicts overwhelmingly chose prison.
>The U.S. is still bound by treaty to keep the Comanches out.
TOP FUKKIN KEK!

>>33527168
you misspelled Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Klan Clinton, Bush the Second, and the Kenyan Keynesian are second rate welfare statists next to those two.

>>33527458
Comanches not coaches

>>33501920
Yes, but it wouldn't be worth it. In Canada we'd have to chase those polite apologetic fucks down in the woods, one by one.

In Mexico we'd have the cartelistas doing insane French Foreign Legion-style last stands, while everybody else would be flocking to surrender so we could lock them up in POW camps in Texas. Then their cousin Hector breaks them out, and we're suddenly up to our ass in landscapers.

>>33526984
>There have been plenty of wars fought on two fronts in which the aggressor won

Such as

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>>33504623
>Mexico
>any claim to the Pacific Northwest
Oh okay I forgot that 6 months when Britain gave that to them right before we won the MA war just to troll us

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>>33502681

>>33526949
Weren't those both the ATF?

>>33532256
Going what I said about the FBI being the mailed fist, the organizers of the sieges were the ATF but the guys behind the triggers were FBI.

>>33520071
Yes there is states cant print money