/k/ What pistol would you recommend to a beginner to learn how

>>33481236
a glock

Specifically a glock 19.

>>33481269
>glock 19
Thanks, looked up on gun broker. Plenty of choices and price is reasonable for what you get.

>>33481236
You can get a decent FN or Ruger for <500

CZ P07 is decent and under 500, and the trigger>Glock trigger

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>>33481236
Glock 19 or 17. Pick the one that fits your hand best. 26 is also an option if you have small hands.

Appreciate the reply's, going to check all these out and pick one most comfortable with.

>>33481346
Forgot to add that size is the only difference between the 3.

>>33481236
Can I piggyback on this thread and ask the same question but for a rifle? Preferably something at least usable for HD but I guess ease of maintenance is more important

>>33481391
S&W m&p sport ii

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>>33481236
Ruger Mark 4 22/45. These things are a hoot. Also, .22 lr is easy to control and relatively quiet, while still being both useful and fun.

>>33481391
CZ 527. I prefer it in 6.5 Grendel, but that's just me.

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>>33482310
Forgot pic.

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>>33481236
Story time

>be 16 y/o me a few years ago
>skinny kid finally wanting to get into guns
>never shot a gun before
>get invited by my older cousin to go shooting with him since he knows I'm still a gun virgin
>he pulls out his Model S&W500 and hands it to me
>uhh.jpg
>he assures me that despite its size, the recoil is actually a lot less than I thought it was
>unknowingly to me, he loads one live round and the rest with blanks and demonstrates the lack of recoil by firing a blank
>surprised by the lack of recoil
>"wow! I guess in the movies they just over-exaggerate the recoil huh?"
>"yeah give it a shot!"
>I pull the trigger once and fire a blank
>not too bad I guess
>"this is pretty awesome!"
>cousin has shit eating grin on his face as he agrees with me
>when I finally pull the trigger on the live round the recoil kicks it out of my hand and the front sight post smashes into my forehead
>surprised enough to yelp and fall to the ground
>cousin is laughing his ass off
>my forehead is bleeding
>blood drips into my eyes and I panic
>cousin laughs even more
>dad finds out what happened later on and has a good chuckle as well
>cousin retells this story every family gathering and everyone laughs

And that's why I didn't touch guns for the next 6 years.

>>33481236
Maybe a .22 to get used to trigger pull and recoil so you don't start anticipating it early on in your shooting career.

If you think that's too pussy (its not, there's nothing wrong with learning) grab a 9mm.

Like people already suggested glock, Smith and Wesson m&p series, ruger etc etc.

Once you comfortable and save up a little I'm partial to Sig Sauer and Daniel Defense for my rifles. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with glocks or any other pistol with an established reputation it all just comes down to personal preference.

Welcome to the gun world, don't take anything on /k too seriously a lot of these guys are autismos that rage about the dumbest shit and that get mad when you don't take their opinion as fact.

>>33481391
>>33481840


Ruger makes the 556 both that and the m&p sport 2 are sold beginner rifles. Make sure not to buy the sport 1, you can tell because it has no dust cover/forward assist.

I carried the m4 sopmod in the military back when they were all colts. After carrying it for ten years I'm partial to the AR platform. They're simple, easy to shoot, and accurate little rifles.

If you have the cash Daniel Defense, LWRC, Sig Sauer, and a million other high end rifles are out there. I just built a 80% receiver and used a Daniel Defense M4v9 upper.

The parts for an AR are plentiful and you can Frankenstein together really nice rifles when you're ready to break into building your own.

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>>33482203

those are very difficult to take apart and clean

op RUGER is great brand but instead get their SR22 for about $350

shoot it 500-1000rds then you can still sell it for $250 and buy a larger pistol

Glock 19.

>buy Ameriglo Defoors
>install them
>spend the rest of your money on ammo and learn how to shoot
>don't buy dumb shit like a $130 trigger or $250 match barrel
>all your money on ammo

People will tell you "see if X feels good in your hands or check out the M&P9/VP9/P320blahblahblah

fuck that. A new shooter doesn't know how to properly grip a gun so how it "feels" is out of the question.

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surplus like Beretta 92s or Makarov is the bestest answer

>>33481236
M&p shields have a good rebate coming up soon.

OP here. Fucking love you guys, thanks for the outstanding suggestions.

>>33484172
That's a mark 4. They have an incredibly easy one button take down process now.

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>>33481236
Seconding a surplus gun. You can get a Mak for about $330 shipped to your local pawn shop, and most pawn shops'll do an FFL transfer for $20. Spend the rest on ammo, ear pro, a pistol cleaning kit, and mineral spirits. Learn to take apart your very simple Russian peasant gun via Youtube, clean the cosmoline-soaked parts while reading up on firearms safety/your favorite doujin, then rinse, dry, oil and assemble your weapon. You now have a better understanding of how the gun works and is put together. Spend the night dry-firing and working the action until you're used to it, then go to the range with a few of these and put at least a couple hundred rounds through the gun. Come home, clean your gun, ask any questions in the QTDDTOT thread and enjoy shitposting on /k/, brother.

>>33481236
I picked up a Sig 226 .22 Classic 2nd hand from a guy I know at the gun club for really cheap.
That's sort of been my 'teach people to shoot pistols gun' (literally- I've taught dozens of people with it) for quite a few years now and its been a real little trooper, not very complicated, easy to use, fairly standard layout for an automatic pistol and about the only real complaint is that it likes a bit hotter ammo to cycle.
If you want to run it up to 9mm, .357 or .40 you can get a factory conversion kit, so its a bit like 2-in-1 for that purpose.

Maybe not for everyone, but I honestly can't complain about it for learners as its got no recoil to scare them, cheap to feed and will run all day.

>>33484237
>hurr night sights are bad

>>33481236
Glock 19

A heavy ass revolver, along the lines of S&W 686, SP101.

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>>33486096
LEWD

>>33486270
>actual knowledgable post on /k/
>mind blown

>>3347402
>recommends surplus for first gun
>op probably doesn't know what to look for
>develops bad habits
>develops skewed idea of price point/quality in firearms
>develops the ' tism like the rest of this board
>starts violently defending lower quality surplus guns with reckless abandon
>shitposts out of insecurity at every given opportunity
>recommends them to new shooters
>the cycle is reborn
>"knowledgeable post"

>>33487716
Was meant for
>>33487402

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>>33482756
I wanted to post a laughing picture, but swiftly found out that I have none.
Instead, enjoy this Mojave railroad picture that I took

>>33482310
>>33482336
7.62x39 is still pretty neat. It's designed to eat steelcase slavshit too, unlike the Mini Thirty.

>>33481236
Depends a lot on what you want. A 92fs/Glock/M&P can be had both new and used for anywhere from $300-$600. Personally I'd tell you to check out the tristar pistol offerings. They are clones of Jericho/CZ75s so you'll have decent after market access and a cheap gun.

Police trade ins or a glock at just about any pawn shop

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>>33481236

I just recently picked up a Taurus pt111 G2, it's a really nice little piece very intuitive and the warranties are great for $313 out the door, $360ish with 150rds of 9mm on the receipt

>>33487840
I enjoyed this picture.

>>33489699
>Taurus Customer service
>We huehue your pewpew in 3 months or longer

>>33489718
Taurus is far from the only manufacturer that's shitty when it come to timeframes