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Have you ever been turned down after filling out a 4473 or for any other reason?

How crazy does a person have to be to actually get turned down?

>reminder this guy literally talked like this and somehow went into a gun store, talked to the clerks, filled out the 4473 and passed

just wondering, people keep telling me th ere are mental health aspects to the background check, but does that mean anything?

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>>33472322
My friend got a delay and then a deny because he had an outstanding misdemeanor charge and he still has to go to court to get it resolved.
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>>33473164
>My friend got a delay and then a deny because he had an outstanding misdemeanor charge and he still has to go to court to get it resolved.

>being friends with criminals
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>>33472322
H-how much you want for the girl, OP?
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>>33473200
>not doing your duty to dismantle the state apparatus
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Nice copypasta
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>>33472322

Imagine some assclown breaking into this girls's house and this smile is the last thing he sees before dying.

Easy, nobody ever report his ass. His mom works in the local PD's office so they just talked to the parents if shit goes wrong.

Dude had a clean record, acted like a normie just long enough to fill out the 4473 and pass background check. Same with the Colorado shooter.
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>>33475100
>H-how much you want for the girl, OP?
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>>33475133
My, yes.
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>>33475133
"All I did was tell her that the Podestas are coming over for dinner..."
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>>33475100
>blocks your path
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I've always wondered what they'd do if someone checked "yes" on the "are you a fugitive from justice" question
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>>33475209
>that resolution

Now, how much for girl?
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>>33475235
Now she is just adorable.
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>>33475232
fucking kek, me too.

I really wonder about if anything is accidentally marked at all. Like, I've had a store way back deny a purchase because, in short terms, I made it sound like a gift/straw purchasey sort of thing when my Dad was the one filling out the 4473, so they denied the sale. No skin off our backs, went on our way, the guys never said another thing after and we still shoot at their range to this day.

Now, I wonder how far they can go with it. I think it depends on the store, but still. Let's say you accidentally ticked the "Not a Citizen" box or whatever the fuck, even if you clearly are and have passed checks before. Or the fugitive box. Does the FBI take note? Do they have to keep that paper? Can they even just be like "look, I think you didn't look at this part well enough" and have you redo it and run it?

Just like everything else with the ATF it isn't entirely clear-cut and written as law to read and know, so I've always been curious.
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>>33472322
I always get nervous when I get to the "Do you own a canine companion?" checkbox, but no trouble so far
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Everything about this thread just screams bait. Like it's a post by some soccer mom wanting fuel to use to stroke the fire of gun control.
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>>33475385
Whatever do you mean, anon?
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>>33475403
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>>33472322
Nope. I've purchased 8 guns, (2 pistols, 4 rifles, 2 shotguns), but never even had a check take more than 30 minutes, and that was on a really busy day where clerk informed me before hand it would take a while. I even made a purchase while I was waiting for my court date for reckless driving.

Then again, I'm a white male with no criminal record, military service in good standing, and EMT certifications. Not like anyone is really that worried about me being a gang banger, honestly.
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>>33478043
>Then again, I'm a white male with no criminal record, military service in good standing, and EMT certifications

lol fag like anyone cares
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>>33475100
smiling_ancap_ball.jpg
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>>33472322
they had changed the law at the time where you can only buy virgin receivers at 21 instead of 18
only time I ever got denied on a 4473
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There sure are a lot of semen demons in this thread.
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>>33475403
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>>33472322
i get delayed and/or denied all the fucking time. it's a crapshoot.
dad has my name and can't own guns. brother has a similar name and can't own guns, and he was arrested using my name.

i usually give up and do private transfers since they're not prohibited here, but it prevents me from ordering anything online since i don't know if it will just end up being sent back
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>>33478175
do you put your social on the 4473? that would help prove you're not the same person
thats weird though
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>>33478043
The longest it ever took for me was just under 30 minutes and that was because I was buying a gun right before 4th of July weekend and that was probably only because NICS was slammed.
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>>33478195
yes, doesn't help. i could theoretically mail in my prints too but there's a ~20 month backlog.
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>>33478199

I had a NICS once take 3 fucking hours, but I live in New Jersey, so that might have something to do with it.
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>>33478041
>sees filename
>loliluger.jpg

That's not a Luger, you shitheel.
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>>33472322
>Have you ever been turned down after filling out a 4473 or for any other reason?
I had a friend who got turned down because he didn't realize you had to be 21 for an AR lower.

Other than that, I've never even been delayed (although I had to wait 2 hours for them to get through to the system before).
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>>33475235
All that work on the rifle, and it still has the plastic thread protector.
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>>33472322
The mental health check only applies if you've been forcibly or voluntarily institutionalized, or prescribed certain medications. It also varies a lot by State I believe, even though it's federal law certain States classify and report institutionalization and such differently.
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>>33473200
The average American commits three felonies a day without even realizing it. We purposely write overly broad legislation and use a precedent based system to try to criminalize as much activity as possible. We are all unarrested criminals and our government uses selective enforcement to target groups it does not like. Prove me wrong faggot.
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>>33478315
You're a retard
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>>33478342
Compelling argument
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>>33472322
never been turned down or delayed. the longest part of me buying a gun has always been me either picking what I want or filling out the form and now I can bypass the form with my cwp
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>>33478315
Harvey Silverglate, pls gtfo desu
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>>33478315
>Prove me wrong faggot.
Not how arguing works. You need to prove yourself right, first.
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what does it mean when a background check gets delayed by a few days?
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>>33478445
anything
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>>33475156
Jawa
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>>33478445
Afaik basically they are swamped with requests and need more time to do a thorough background check, someone with a similar name commited crimes .etc or that the person submitting the background check possibly typed in info wrong
t. works at a gun store
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>>33478208
Fellow Jersey Fag here, my longest was 13 hours and that was not because of a delay. NJ NICS just sucks like that sometimes.
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>>33478509
>>33478469
got it
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>>33478396
i know this feel
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>>33478213
>>>33478041 (You)
>>sees filename
>>loliluger.jpg
>That's not a Luger, you shitheel.
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>>33479401
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>>33472322

I was for my 2nd gun.

My state had a "one per month" rule, but when I was rejected the sales guy clarified that it was "one every 30 days".

It was in SC, and that law is long gone.
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>>33475403

Dixie flag bikinis get me right in the hhnnnnngggg
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>>33479463

white trash
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>>33477395
14th rule best rule
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>Pictures of kids
>Anon: "OMG THIS IS BAIT STOP MAKING ME FEEL THESE FEELS!"

I reeeeeeealy fucking worry about some of you weirdos.
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>>33479728
>>Pictures of kids
>>Anon: "OMG THIS IS BAIT STOP MAKING ME FEEL THESE FEELS!"
>I reeeeeeealy fucking worry about some of you weirdos.
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>>33479473

if liking that trashy bitch makes me wrong, then i never want to be right
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When I went to buy my Saiga 12 the system was down for like 4 hours, when it finally back up it said I was no-go, gunshop bro was like: I'm pretty sure that's bullshit, lets try again and then the system approved me.
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I'm trying to think of any of the other rights we have in the constitution that we have to fill out a form in order have.
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>>33475235
Where's the rapist cannibal guy
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>>33478240
Those look like fun. Would you recommend?
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>>33473200
Laws don't change what's right or wrong
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>>33479401
>loli m16

Motherfucker...
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>>33475122

>you have to be a criminal to effectively dismantle the state apparatus

Try not getting caught, criminal scum
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>>33472322
I have an extensive history of clinical depression and anxiety. Through medical and therapy I have learned how to manage my mental health and have been in remission for years. I am a productive member of society with a full-time job and I pay my taxes.

I own four firearms and have never hurt or threatened anyone with them. I have also been praised for my consistently good safety practices. I really just like to shoot and would like to learn how to hunt.

There are people suffering more severe mental conditions and/or have not been adequately treated who should not be trusted with firearms.
We need to screen for these people to protect them and others from tragedy. I have never had issues with 4473s because I have sought treatment, am in control of my mental health, and have never allowed myself to become a danger to others.
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I got denied at Rural King, but it must have been a store level denial. They had implemented a new computer system to fill out the 4473 form. I had purchased my first gun from them no problem when filling out the paper 4473 and they called it in. Their new way I got denied. Then the clerk treated me like I was criminal scum. He wouldn't even let me buy the ammo I was interested in either. Only let me buy the piece of shit stapler which broke immediately and they wouldn't refund me for.

So I went out immediately after to my local gun shop and, surprise, bought a gun. Then a week later my CCW permit came in the mail.

Fuck Rural King. They denied me for zero reason other than their dumb ass system is broken as fuck.
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>>33478079
Exactly my point. I'm vanilla as fuck.
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>>33482104
>I own four firearms and have never hurt or threatened anyone with them

wow you are one amazing fuckup
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>>33478246
Not even prescribed certain medications. At a federal level it's just involuntarily committed or declared mentally ill and a threat to yourself or others. You literally could have DID and multiple hospitalizations and still be able legally to own guns.
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>>33482265
>Not even prescribed certain medications. At a federal level it's just involuntarily committed or declared mentally ill and a threat to yourself or others. You literally could have DID and multiple hospitalizations and still be able legally to own guns.

some people don't need guns
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>>33483382
>need
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>>33483534
>>need
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>>33481097
Not him but yes they are really fun to shoot.
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>>33483534
>>need
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>need
>eedn
>edne
>dnee
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>>33483534
>>need
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>>33483382
Shall not be infringed.
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>>33472322
I was put on a 5 day hold in Arizona. My birthplace, Phoenix.
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>>33483534
>>need
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>>33475360
>Let's say you accidentally ticked the "Not a Citizen" box or whatever the fuck
the clerk will usually point out your fuckup and ask you if the information is correct before he files it
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>>33478206
have you tried getting a CCP? if you have one in my state you can skip the NICs check
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>>33477395
WHAT UPPER IS THAT
>No dust cover
>No forward assist
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>>33484803

it's a .22 you mong
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>>33484803
Google up "slick side upper" if you want one, I'm pretty sure DPMS makes one.
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>>33484803
That's an M&P15 sport
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>>33485677
Actually nvm, >>33485639
is correct. It's an M&P 15-22
the regular Sport 5.56's didn't have dust cover or FA either.
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>>33484182
Woah lucky kid.
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>>33483534
>>need
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>>33472322

Never been turned down, but I was arrested and processed 3 years ago. Charges were dropped but I had already spent the night in jail, got fingerprinted etc. Ever since then my transfers always get delayed for some amount of time. Shortest has been 30 min, longest is 6 hours. My FFL guy says once you've been arrested, your background check gets done by an actual Human instead of the computer system.

Oh and this is for the rest of my life. Could be worse, I guess. Felony charges could have stuck.
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>>33485715

what did you do
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>>33482104
So there is no database that actually checks this?
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>>33485715
Really? I got charged with felonies years ago and had them dropped to misdemeanors. Longest wait was a half hour (3 years after conviction), but now it's immediately approved as soon as the dude hits "enter" (7/8 years after conviction).
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>>33485851
I think that depends on reporting from the state.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94q_-imtnlo&spfreload=10
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>>33485851
I think it only counts against you if you are committed to a instution against your will or have a reported suicide attempt

I dont think you can be disarmed for seeking voluntary treatment or counseling
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>>33475235
So cute with her little hat! Don't even mean that in a lewd way. She's just a cute girl with a cute hat...
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>>33485875
Well I dunno then, I'm just going off what my FFL told me. He runs his business out of his garage though, so take it for what it's worth.
>>33485790
Failure to stop for blue lights. Got reduced to careless operation of a motor vehicle
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>>33483534
>>need
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>>33475235
I bet she smells nice. Like, not perfumed up and shit, but not dirty either. Like soap and sweat and sunshine and freshly mowed grass. I want to bury my nose in her hair, right at the base of her neck, and just breath her in.
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>>33475232
We deny the form. Nothing more
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>>33478315
Even so if you want law changes consult your government and write to said people of your disapprove.
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>>33475360
they'll have you fix it and initial
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>>33486943
>they'll have you fix it and initial

that's illegal
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>>33486943
>they'll have you fix it and initial

CRIMINAL
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>>33479401
>jdam when?
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>>33482104
Let us know how that muzzle tastes
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>>33488924
>Let us know how that muzzle tastes

savage
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I am a tranny so right after I changed my name and social it did not sync up right and they denied me. I bought a gun last week though so I can infact buy guns.

>inb4 mentally ill can't own guns
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>>33472322
How crazy do you have to be before they suspend your right to vote?
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>>33484422
usually is the key word here, fuck ups happen
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>>33485907

"let freedom ring" in squeaky voice.
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>>33485851
depends on the paper trail your Dr. or state leaves. obviously involuntary stays at mental health facilities and dependencies on prescription drugs could hang up your 4473, but i don't think you can be hit (usually) by voluntary stays or therapy
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>>33490757
>I am a tranny so right after I changed my name and social it did not sync up right and they denied me. I bought a gun last week though so I can infact buy guns.

you really should not have guns
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>>33491766
>this group of people I don't like shouldn't have guns

neck yourself
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>>33490827
>fuckups happen

Yeah they do. I was prohibited from buying guns for like a year and a bit because fafsa conflated my name with someone else's, making it look like I was trying to buy weapons/avoid taxes/purchase state id etc. under an assumed name. Talk about a bitch to clear up.
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>>33485907
She is just cute as a button.
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>>33486298
This is the reason why the number 1 rule of 4chan, is don't mention 4chan. Regardless if the board. Because of weird fucks like you.
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>>33492835
Hey man, all I said was that I want to hold her down against her will somewhere far away from any witnesses and smell her hair while she struggles to escape. You're the one who made it weird.
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>>33475089
>old enough for cock? old enough for Glock
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>>33494081
You numma ten, GI!
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>>33485907
This gives me hope for our pussified country.
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>>33478175
Use your social security number on the 4473 theres 3 niggers that have my same name that are all in jail and since i use my social i never have a problem
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>>33472322
I got turned down for the felony I committed at 14
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>>33495260
>the felony I committed at 14
Which was what?
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>>33475100
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>>33495276
forgery
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>>33495187
>the way she's holding the gun on the right

some things never change
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How the hell did this turn into a lolis with guns thread?
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>>33475360
>"look, I think you didn't look at this part well enough"

basically. i accidentally checked that i wasnt the owner of the gun being purchased or whatever and he gave me a raised eyebrow and gave me another paper.
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>>33483382
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
NOW GIT OUT
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>Loose hair
>Operator
Either go ponytail or go short if you want to operate
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>>33485907
>lifting feet while shooting
enjoy going off target lmao
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>>33478126
>implying human ownership doesnt go directly against the objectivist self-ownership-at-all-costs ideological basis for anarcho capitalism and other individualist philosophies
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I committed myself to a mental health institution once, am I SOL if I want a gun
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>>33482104
I have the alternate perspective. As someone with a long history of mental illness who has voluntarily entered outpatient hospital programs, I understand how arbitrary the definitions of mental illness are. I don't believe mental illness should not even be a legally-acknowledged term. All that bullshit should be wrapped up in being an invalid or not, the government has no place deciding if someone with a very broad condition that runs the entire spectrum of threats to themselves and others, such as schizophrenia, should have their rights stolen on diagnosis alone. Even scarier, what if an especially dubious edition of the DSM comes out where they make up a mental illness that can be applied to any political radical?
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>>33485907
>preview image is an older man straddling a scantily-clad loli
I hope Hirohito's imperial agents don't get too trigger-happy about that
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>>33492046
>>this group of people I don't like shouldn't have guns

>this group of people prone to suicide shouldn't have guns

Ftfy
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>>33498867
Blacks are prone to murder, should they not have guns? Spics are prone to be cartelbois, should they not have guns? Conservatives are prone to disagree with the government, should they not have guns?
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