Carrier landings take lots of skill and are hard is a myth,

You have to have autism to land on a carrier
I know because my autistic friend was the only one who could land in Top Gun NES

The problem is that fuckups are immediately fatal

>>33466363
You ever been on a boat before? It's not like it's sitting still in the water. Oceans have currents and waves. You ever try moving a vehicle when you can't see what you're doing? I don't know what the cockpit view is in most planes but there is no way you can see a whole lot under you or how much space you have from you to the back of the plane. You could be off by a bit didn't get a straight run in, came in too fast. There seems like a ton of factors that would make someone retry a landing a few times until they know what the thing is capable of.

>>33466378
That's a goddamned lie. You can't land in the nes top gun. I played that game for years and never Managed end mission landing once. I refuse to believe it could be done.

>>33466363
I wanna take off from a carrier some day before I die. 200 knots in under 2 seconds, that's my kinda fun. Do a barrel roll just after takeoff just like in Top Gun.

>>33466480
AVGN did it with the powerglove

>>33466363

But then you're stuck on a boat...

In the middle of nowhere...

With five thousand other men.

Join the Navy? I don't think so.
Living on a boat? Hey, I don't think so.

>>33466571
Dos Gringos, nice!

>>33466571
Go gliding and do winch launches.

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Carrier landings huh?

>ITT: Autists quoting Dos Gringos while other autists don't understand what's going on

>>33468426

>land
>munitions all over the deck

Not gonna lie, I would have jumped overboard the moment I saw that. Fuck that shit

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>>33468491
Could be worse.

>>33468584
>filename

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OOOOOOO HOOOOOO
OH GOD I JUST SHIT MYSELF
WHILE PULLING 2 GEEES

>>33468491
>, I would have jumped overboard the moment I saw that

Should watch the tv show the pacific. if you think they would have picked you up you are an idiot.

>>33468465

Why would he do that? Russian pilots are beyond retarded. The amount of planes crashed by them compared to the relatively low flying hours off their carrier is pathetic.

>>33466378
Shit, that means I've got the autism.

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>>33469003

i mean idk if he was going to slow or what but that was a pretty nice save

>>33469003
Probably too steep of an approach

>>33466363
As at least one other person mentioned, the ship is moving with the water, and a fighter jet is no cessna, its stalling speed is MUCH higher

It's not so hard that its impossible, obviously people do it. I also call bullshit on there being no crosswind though

>t. ex gf is a pilot

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>>33468476
You can just hear the "Cyka blyat" in the distance once the seat ejects

>>33468426
>0:37
Uh, I think that plane missed the carrier.

>>33469132
There won't be a crosswind. She ship sails into the wind. It's simple shit, brah.

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>>33469152
Could be worse.

>>33469165
Because there will never be any operational maneuvers that take place while planes are landing or taking off?

>>33469171
>>33469177
Did he dead?

>>33469165
>sudden shift in wind on approach

>>33469171
>>33469177
HIGHWAY TO THE DANGER ZONE

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>>33469191
Maybe

>>33466480
Fuck feels good to know I wasn't the only one.

>>33469191

First died, second lived

>>33469171
>Attempting a night landing aboard USS Abraham Lincoln, operating in the Eastern Indian Ocean, Grumman F-14A-90-GR Tomcat, BuNo 159843,[86] 'NH 111',[87] of VF-213, piloted by Lt. Matthew T. Claar "Planet", first bird in the recovery cycle, drops below approach slope just before reaching fantail, suffers massive ramp strike at 2104:33 hrs. with rear fuselage striking deck and completely disintegrating aft of the wing in huge fireball and pitching airframe up on its nose and skidding along port edge of the angle leaving trail of burning fuel in its wake. Both crew eject in Martin-Baker seats, but only RIO Lt. Dean A. Fuller survives, trajectory into the water off the angle, with minor injuries, recovered by SAR helicopter.[88] Pilot, who sequenced out first, did so while the airframe was extremely nose-low, landed on deck and died on impact, immediate attempts to resuscitate him for nought. LSO had repeatedly tried to wave him off, according to CPL Kevin R. Fox, Powerline, VMFA-314 Black Knights, whom the pilot landed right in front of. Through diligent efforts of crew, all fires were extinguished and a ready deck was available for further recoveries in 33 minutes. An award, a sword, is given to the outstanding Midshipman 1/C selected for Naval Aviation, chosen by the NROTC Staff at Villanova University in Lt. Claar's memory, where he was a 1986 graduate.[88] Footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p85dJMsXIk.

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>>33466378
>Top Gun NES

>>33469177
>7-11-1994

I don't see that crash on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military_aircraft_(1990%E2%80%9399)#1994

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>>33469202
That pilot is getting pussy and free drinks at the nearest port.

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Stop and then land. Simples.

>>33468461
>/k/, a magical place

>>33469241

I found it on the list of crashes for the Kittyhawk.

>>33469213
I want to see the second landing attempt by this guy.

>>33469332

Watch the whole clip, you can see them land the other planes first and then set up the net, which he hits perfectly.

>>33469202

What...a...fucking....legend...

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>>33469202
just...

>>33468442
Holy fucking shit did that guy get shot and still land his plane?

>>33466363
Just install a flight simulator and land with crosswind and do a carrier landing. Do these after spending at least 50 hours in the simulator.

In my case I was able to land consistently with harsh weather conditions in FSX while I still sometimes miss the cables when the weather is bad.

What people don't realize is at slow speeds fighter jets are affected by the weather a lot and really the turbulent air matters which is the same for land and carrier based operations, constant crosswind is not a very big deal. So I think carrier landings are a bit harder.

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>>33469535
Looks like there was afire in the cockpit. Maybe both.

>>33469192
>Go around
>Derp

>>33469553
Someone must have fucked up pretty bad at one point if that plane is shitty magma.

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>>33468426

whenever I see ww2 carrier crashes I think of this ww2 FAA song about crash landings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nslFTONWUE

>so bring on the Nelson, the Rodney, the Renown
>this flattop old bastard is the next to go down

kek

>>33466480
Ya, it was impossible.
> Turn that shit off, back to Zelda

>>33468476

I wonder how the pilot that dumps a multi million jet into the water is treated by everybody around him afterwards.

>cooks make him a cake with inscription "You will never repay your debt loser."

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>>33466363
>I can't think of anything that's easier than this.

>>33469678
It wasn't his fault, my man.

>>33468476
Did the wire snap or what?

>>33469793

Well if the wire snaps, yes. But if he approaches too fast, misses the cables and then can't recover in time for instance.

I'm sure it happens.

>>33469535
Looked to me like his lips were frozen and he was really stiff. Considering how his canopy was jacked up he might have had an oil leak which would have made it impossible to see.

Which explains why he landed with his canopy open. He had to open it at altitude to locate the carrier and land the plane. I can't imagine he survived.

>>33468476
Aren't you supposed to gun it so you can do a go around if necessary? he just falls lazily into the sea

>>33469910

You can see the cable trailing him if you watch closely. Means he caught it, but it snapped.

>>33469910
Yes you need to apply MIL thrust but it looks like wire slows him down and snaps when he's almost stopped. You can't recover from that.

>>33469898
Keeping the canopy open during takeoff and landing was done so that they could get out in time in case there was a fire or they went overboard. It was pretty standard to do when landing, not just when you've got oil on your windscreen.

>>33469956
>you can't recover from that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-EHwYOfY94

Depends on a lot of things, but it can be done.

>>33469898
After looking into it a bit more it seems to be an F6F Hellcat which would have been cruising at about 170 mph. Around 8000 feet the air is below freezing. The operational altitude of the plane was much higher.

Dude managed to land the plane but he probably froze himself to death in the process.

>>33468476
Did the tether snap here?

>>33468584

My question is "why does he still have a bomb?"

WW2 Pacific was a target rich environment. It's not like they couldn't have just dropped that little guy on a supply depot or machinegun nest or something

>>33468426

I love the deck crew that just fucking duck a plane wing nearly killing them and it's like yeah yep that shit happens.

Also that was a pretty good water landing for having a huge ass fuel tank attached to your ass still.

>>33468491

There's a place crewmen stand that it seems like you could just jump down below deck level and be fine.

Why would you jump off..

>>33470133
It probably got stuck, shit happens.

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>>33469202

>>33470133
Possible hung storage, bomb wouldn't drop so he had to land with it.

>>33469233

Holy fucking christ.

Second pilot ejected himself into the deck of the boat.. god damn man that sucks.

>>33469553

That mother fucker standing 5 feet from what looks like the plane fucking MELTING and the prop still whirling at KILL YOU speeds, has the biggest set of balls on the entire boat.

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>>33466363
We are the hounds of heaven,
The bloody dogs of war.

Fucking trolled by Dos Gringos, rock on man.

>>33470373
Is he holding a surefire 60 round mag? I counted him putting more than 30 round in it.

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>>33470390
No, he's holding a maglight 200 round banana clip, keep watching.

>>33470417
I don't have that much time to spare, I have to do my daily research on lolis now.

>>33469202

that was fucking awesome, was not expecting him to be able to pull out of that.

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>>33470430
Here's the AK variant.

>>33469678
i dunno ask John McCain XD.

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>>33466363
YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY NEVER PLAYED PIC RELATED.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>>33470609
Definition of "Nintendo hard". 4 fucking missions but ive never physically seen someone land the goddamn plane. I still have gamer PTSD from it to this day whenever I need to land a fucking plane

>>33466410
>came in too fast
That's a problem anywhere, so rule that out
Otherwise you ever go on a big boat? It'll lock a lot less than our fishing boats.

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>>33469678
Just don't land on the wrong carrier.

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>>33470773

or leave it on an allied carrier

I think there is a photo somewhere of a british phantom with a similar thing done to it by american maintainers

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>>33470884

>>33470786
>This is no periscope. Do not submerge
Minor kek

>>33468927
They were maintaining radio silence and on a timetable to get to a beach landing. This looks after action or refit and rearm and they woulda sent a small craft after him. The only idiot here is you.

>>33468491
I have a feeling the guy who came up with the SOP for releasing all unused munitions before landing was at that landing lol

>>33466480
you were reading the numbers wrong. Once you figure it out it's trivial

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always liked this story

>>33469202
the absolute madman

>>33471162
The merchant tried to collect the salvage for the Harrier. They were sadly not given the payment.

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>>33466363
This game was and still is awesome

>>33471247
Dang it opened wrong thread back up

>>33454725

>>33471236
kek, isn't that international maritime law though?

>>33471301
I might be mistaking it with another famous instance of the Royal Navy. There was an instance in one of the world wars where the captain gave the order to abandon ship, the crew abanoned it, then some of the crew reboarded, then sailed the ship home and demanded the salvage for it.

>>33469202
I'm guessing he needed a new pair of underwear.

>>33469233
>Award given in memory of a guy who ignored multiple call offs, fucked up and launched himself directly into the deck, snapping his neck, almost killing another guy in the process

That's the worst award ever

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>>33469202
that close call on the cable though

This thread has taught me that WW2 carrier flight deck crew was metal as fuck

>>33471584
But of course. Those fucking nips weren't going to kill themselves.
Oh wait.

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>>33471701
>tfw you're the number one target.

>Dos Gringos thread
>Doesn't even post/k/ The Song

https://youtu.be/8ka5ow65vik

Because if there's one thing the US military is good at, it's jacking it in new and exciting places

>>33470192
Which is why we now have squibs to eject the hole pylon.

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>>33469202
BALLS TO WALL

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>>33466363
>You never have a crosswind
Not true, but not that relevant either...
>and if you flare at all it fucks everything up
FTFY
>You've got a tiny 150-foot box with FOUR fuckin wires and if you don't catch one of the middle two you get graded down, reprimanded and possibly grounded
I agree that it's not as hard as it's made out to be so long as you can fight your instincts to flare, but for someone used to making conventional landings on a runway it's very unnatural and challenging.

>>33469806
>>33470123
IIRC it wasn't the cable but the arresting engine itself that failed. The second one there's a splash ahead of the jet in the water, I think it's a piece of the arresting gear that pulled out of the deck and got flung forward.

>>33470884

http://www.stormclimb.com/2011/07/31/hms-ark-royal-f-4-phantom-wears-combined-us-uk-markings/

This site explains it a bit differently though.

>>33470991

>colonial navy

Good show :)

>>33466363
Landing in manual is retardedly hard to learn. We spend a ridiculous amount of sorties learning how to land on the ship. Guys attrite from training all the time for disqualifying at the carrier.

Good news is that we are in the midst of a revolution in technology that will make landing on the carrier very easy. Unfortunately the integration of magic carpet is slow. I would estimate in the next few years things will be almost completely transitioned over.

That being said, magic carpet won't make a dark night less dark, or make you not have vertigo, or make the metal landing area more forgiving or wider. I don't think I can convey the feeling of blue water ops to people. Knowing you're in some part of the world you have never been to before, and knowing you don't really have a divert option, and you have to land on this ship. That feeling is very unique. You remember that one night where you boltered a bunch of times and had to tank. It's shitty, you just try not to think about it.

>>33468456
They were just worn out.

>>33469224
What a strange, old, shitty plane.

>>33469997

Well yes, big factor is the type of airplane as well. The stall speed of the E-3 is probably much more forgiving than the big heavy jets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67iGu3E8Gc

It's insane, crewman almost gets snagged and then if you're the pilot you have to worry about the carrier running you over if you manage to eject.

>>33473005
or if the pilot is very unlucky, they could eject right into the ship

>>33466378
Fuck....I might have it, I messed up a few times with a friend way back....but then I could land it every time.

I could always dock perfectly too in Captain Skyhawk for the NES

>>33472410
Now, I've never done it, but I'm a private pilot and I got to play with one of Boeing's Hornet boxes and it was fairly easy provided a stabilised approach. You literally pit the flight director on the box and maintained airspeed until smashing into the deck. Like a mistimed short feild, every time.

>>33468491
And then promptly get sucked under the ship and ensure your death. k.

>>33469553

WTF?!? Is his goddamn lava tank ruptured?
What is this, a Fire Nation prototype?

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>>33469202

>>33466410
I dont know if fighters do it but bigger planes, like c130 up, have a fuckton of cameras, and some are pointed at tge ground so they can see whats in front of them and the taxi lines.
I have no idea if that would be helpful trying to land or not or what the cockpit view is. I never got a chance to sit in a 15 because they were always on standby.

>>33466363
There are edies, and the wake of the island, blus the ship moves more than pilots want, troll,

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>>33469371
>land the other planes first and then set up the net
Imagine if they had another whole event coming in behind him and no time for the barricade without locking the flight deck and stranding a ton of other jets in the air with no fuel reserve.
>Oh, uh.... I know you just busted a nosewheel and might have other unknown damage to your aircraft which may be worsening by the minute and probably can't wait until this is over, but we're gonna send a tanker up for you to loiter for another hour while we recover the 20-ship alpha strike package coming in behind you.

>>33466363
Anyone have footage of biplane carrier landings like this:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13633402

>>33468465
>anon sees mass effect andromeda reviews

>>33469241

>wikipedia is always complete and true

hate to sound like every teacher ever anon, but...

>>33472754
tis a drone

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>>33466828
HOT BUNKIN'! Yeah I don't think so!
DOIN' NIIIIIGHT TRAPS! FUCK THAT, I don't think so!
Sure I've thought about the navy! But decided to pass, I love my five star hotels and per diem out the ass!
This old life! It can't goOOOooooo!
When the coffee ain't fresh, sheets ain't soft! Beer is only somewhat cooooooooooold.

>>33469590
>>33469192
WAVE OFF!

>>33475752

did that guy lose his head

>>33474071
>>33472410
>>33466410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5z3DMC3RA
SONG RELATED.

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>>33470786
I... I will never be a corsair pilot with friends who fly corsairs... why live?

>>33469553
Whatever is going on there, it's clearly not impeding the engine so it's not oil and it's probably not fuel.

>>33469172
>Because there will never be any operational maneuvers that take place while planes are landing or taking off?
Basically no.
The world powers won't fight each other, no country with a carrier fights equals anymore. They're used to beat up on minor powers.

>>33469172
NO, you will not be landing on a turning carrier. Jesus fucking christ, this is GRADE SCHOOL SHIT! If the carrier must turn during your recovery, they will either wait for you to hit the deck first, or they will wave you off, depending how close you get, not that anyone with carriers even fights a power that can threaten a carrier anymore.

CHECK EM'

>>33469213
On the last clip, what was the dude who dived under the engine doing?

>>33471063

Sailor here. Even in modern times if you go over into the drink chances are that by the time they turn a 300m ship around at 16 knots there is a very slim chance they are going to ever find you.

>>33469202
Fucking savages

>>33469553
That plane has diarrhea

>>33476899
which is why they... wait, they DO have the pilot recovery birds on standby don't they? And also have dye that stands out on the water, and transponders and various other stuff, or is the transponder a load of shit?

>>33468442
That guy getting pulled out of his aircraft at 20seconds, is he being pulled out because it was a bad landing and he broke something or did something happen during his flight which caused the bad landing?

>>33469553
I can only imagine what that aircraft would if it were sentient.
>OH GOD, I KNEW I SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD THAT JAP FOR BREAKFAST.

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>>33469202
>Kenny Loggins intensifies

>>33469553
Plane just popped an estus

>>33469202
What a fucking god

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>>33469678
Well, my dad crashed a jet into the ocean once, apparently that night the entire squadron showed up to do a roof stomp or some shit.

idk basically everyone is just glad you aren't fucking dead, provided the crash wasn't your fault ofc.

>>33466363

I agree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9RJ_SCRfM

http://pilotonline.com/news/military/local/navy-human-error-to-blame-for-march-cable-break-aboard/article_c4675c54-6cdc-5882-867a-68f961145c9d.html

Who wants to bet it was a woman who fucked up?

AND HERE'S THE BIG DICK PILOT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da39t2DNYqU

>>33471063

I think that was SOP even during the time, however sometimes the release mechanism jammed.

>>33475705
Imagine being on the elevator. You're lowering a hellcat back into the hangar, maybe chatting with your buddies and the pilot, you hear a noise, look up and then see another Hellcat dangling above you.

>>33475771
Close enough. Climb out,wipe your hands, and walk away.