Name a bigger failure. Also if you're not old enough to

>>33466079
That looks like it weighs 50 pounds

Is that the old exploding round mid air grenade lawn chair?

Holy shit, I thought this was a fictional gun that they made up for 007 nightfire. At least that's where I remember it from.

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I used to drool over these when they showed up in articles in magazines
Thought they were just the coolest fucking things ever
Attached is the image I felt I saw the most in these OICW articles

Australians had a version too which didn't have much success either
Chinese recently took a dip into OICW land, with a bolt action grenade launch rather than a magazine fed semi-auto
And how can we forget the French monsters...

IMHO it was in this milieu that the FN F2000 was designed - as a "budget" gun to appeal to what they saw as growing demand for OICW-type weapons, the premiere feature of it was a high tech grenade launcher targeting system

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>>33466079
Well, it spawned the XM25 which is legitimately a game-changer if you can figure out a way to mass-produce the ammo and keep retarded Aberdeen POGs from fucking with it.

>>33466097
This, I had no idea they were real until recently. I loved that game.

>Name a bigger failure.
Considering that grenade launcher half of the rifle is still set for mass adoption, and that most of the features of the land warrior package it was built out are now standard in some form or another, Id say there are countless far bigger failures than the OICW. Pretty much any of the ACR programs over the years for example, or project SALVO for a particularly dumb idea.

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It was a beautiful mistake

>>33466079
Are they this old?
Am I this old?


... fuuuuck

>>33466211
I recognize that font. Damn I miss classic PM

>>33466211
>clip

I've always disliked how fukhueg those things are. Combined with the fact that they're somewhat situational makes it a real pain. they're basically useless at cqb distances, which really hurts an individual fireteam. If you ask a m25 gunner to also carry a m4, that makes you a dick.

>>33466246
M25 needs a bayonet lug for dealing with close range threats

>>33466079
Does it have stereo cassette player?

>>33466217
I just saw my child hood flash before my eyes

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>>33466097
>>33466159
>>33466311
>Those stupid lone-wolf missions in Ghost Recon 2

wasn't the OICW concepted in the late 80s, but somehow survived to 2005? That's when I remember reading about it being killed, because the AWB had just expired and someone was whining to me at the range how civilian OICWs would never be made.

People born in 1999 can post here.

>>33466325
All that tom clancy hype. Raven shield is still good tho.

>>33466453
>someone was whining to me at the range how civilian OICWs would never be made

Unless he could get the grenades wouldn't an OICW just be an obscenely bulky rifle?

>>33466558

That was more or less his point, but this was a long time ago (more than ten years) so everything is hazy.

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>>33466079

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>>33466119
Korea made one as well.

They issued it in very limited numbers IIRC.

>>33466246
>being a dyel

>>33466079
>Name a bigger failure.

You

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I believe the mock up version could easily be made real today. But since it was abandoned we may never know.

>>33466670

what a cop out

>>33467066
I do enjoy the flavor of low hanging fruit.

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>>33466211
>bayonet
>when the Memes go too far
TOP KEK

>>33466097
Nightfire on the gamecube was the GOAT james bond game, even better than Goldeneye

>>33466554
>Raven shield is still good tho.

So many hours playing that.

>>33466079
Loved this thing in SoF II

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I want to see the return of ridiculous guns.

>>33466211
>clip

what the fuck is this shit

>>33467671

it's your government@work

The OICW program spans twenty years and cost over $300 million, the result was nothing. Incorrect magazine nomenclature is par for the course.

>>33466119
And canada is trying to get one developed

>>33466079
It directly lead to the XM-25, not a mistake at all.

>>33467718
>the result was nothing.

Nope, see

>>33467745

>>33466087
That's because it did weigh (close to) 50 pounds. And yes.

>>33467718
>Result was nothing
As with most procurement programs, it did exactly what it was intended to do: line the pockets of contractors and politicians.

>>33467815
ebin meme

I bet you think the f-35 is a failure and the osprey is dangerous, with the Bradly procurement being a clusterfuck.

>>33467737
>Canucks jump on the OICW bandwagon decades after the rest of the world
>Instead of heeding all the expensive lessons learned by the American programs, they insist on buying into the combi-gun meme
>Instead of noting the sensible weight-saving single shot GL components of the Chinese and SK programs, they insist on a 3 shot semi auto GL
Fucking typical leaves.

>>33466246
This is why I think the Army needs to look into machine pistols or lightweight 5.56 PDWs for gun crews or dudes that carry this kind of awkward shit.

>>33467829
>>Instead of noting the sensible weight-saving single shot GL components of the Chinese

Full stop. The chinese one is just as retarded as anything else.

rotating bolt action breech loaded bullpup grenade launcher, in anemic 20mm. What the actual fuck.

At least the K-11 has a mag for quick follow up shots.

>>33467871
>rotating bolt action breech loaded bullpup grenade launcher, in anemic 20mm. What the actual fuck. At least the K-11 has a mag for quick follow up shots.
If the air-burst is working as advertised, and by all accounts it does, follow up shots are unnecessary. Its an analog to the M203, not the Mk19, you aren't supposed to be spamming it blindly.
Besides, the Chinese deploy multiple units at the squad level, so presumably they are used in unison.

>>33467946
>If the air-burst is working as advertised, and by all accounts it does, follow up shots are unnecessary.

US army very much disagrees at the leathity of 20mm grenades.

>but muh smaller electronics!

Does not fly when the XM-25 came out around the same time as the ZH-01. They still went with 25mm.

> follow up shots are unnecessary.

Foolish as fuck. Absolutely fucking foolish. You are arguing that a musket is superior to a repeating rifle.

> Its an analog to the M203

M203 is literally twice the size. You dont need OCIW to achieve what the SAGM round does. Its an analog to other OCIW's.

> you aren't supposed to be spamming it blindly.

Yet one guy with an K11 is worth 5 guys with ZH-01's. He can put out far more hurt.

>Besides, the Chinese deploy multiple units at the squad level, so presumably they are used in unison.

The same can be said of any weapon.

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>ywn tease OICW-chan for being 7 feet tall
>she will never bodyslam you because she's sensitive about her height
what's the point

>>33466097
Delta Force Landwarrior had it first bitch.

>>33466149
The XM25 was so much fun to use in MW3

>>33466670
>produced worlds greatest assault rifle and better tanks, airplanes, nukes, and sam than capitalism
>First in space
>system started collapse only because it incorporates capitalism under "reforms"

Communism isn't a failure. It was an amazing success that turned Russia from a group of farmers to superpower overnight.

>>33468376
There is the communism apologist we have all been waiting for.

>>33468381
>can't handle the truth about communism
>muh communist apologist

lol

>>33468768

>it was not real communism!

>>33468376

>Capitalism is doomed to fail! That's why Communism keeps failing!

The cognitive dissonance is real.

I remember the Mail Call episode on this

XM29 right

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Didnt this pioneer airburst grenades? Wouldnt call it a total failure then

>>33468376
>Greatest tanks

I think every major proxy war involving western and Soviet equipment would disagree with you. The T-34 and up was BTFO by every comparable western tank

Korea:
M4E8 76mm, M26 pershing> T-34-85

Arab-Israeli Wars:
Sherman, M48 Patton, Centurion > T-34, T-54/55, T-62

SADF-Nignog conflicts:
Centurion > T-54/55 and T-62

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>>33466079
Or maybe the Stoner 63?

>>33466211
>>33467158
>Bayonet on a grenade launcher
God bless America.

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>>33466079
Imagine where we'd be today if the SPIW had been a success.
>3 shot burst flechette
>2300 rpm
>60 round mag
>semi auto grenade launcher with 5 round magazine

>>33466673
It's fucking beautiful

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>>33466079
It doesn't look like an XM-8.

>>33468376
>airplanes
Oh boy, somebody get that image out.

>>33466211
>30 shot clip
wow

>>33467826
Sounds about right.

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>gee! Let's spend millions designing a 25 pound service rifle that will use snowflake ammo!
>yeah! Let's make the grenade launcher magazine fed so it weighs even more!
>hey guys, how about we design a 40mm grenade launcher that can use legacy ammo, and can fire airburst ammo!
>*glares*
>I get thrown from window.

>>33467848
If only there had been some sort of PDW program for just that. Hmm, maybe the Belgians know something about that?
>>33469375
Shut up faggot. The XM-25 is great. The reason they switched to 25mm ammo is because it doesn't have the trajectory of a fucking soft ball.

>>33469543

softball is great, all my sisters made the varsity team their sophomore year

what do you have against female sports? Are you one of those people offended by underhanded pitching?

>designing a weapon to kill as much as possible
>not using a caliber above .300

communism

>>33467768
It "only" weighed about 22 pounds when loaded.

>>33469091
The Iraqis BTFOed some western tanks with T-72 though

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>>33466079
FCS.

>>33466149
XM25 is already outdated. Small drones, suicide and with bombs are new game changer.

it has everything but a kitchen sink.

if you know that references mad props.

>>33466673
Theirs is bolt action for the grenade launcher iirc, or maybe that was the chinese one.

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>>33469375
They current try to make airburst 40mm with proximity fuse which can be shot from legacy UGLs without any change to them.

Fun fact: soviets had airburst 40 mm 38 years ago.
>BTFO by slav engeniring

>>33469248
Does anyone else have a crazy urge to fight Chimera with one of these?

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>>33466079

>name a bigger failure

That thing's cousin from the lagoon right here

>>33470142
Source?

>>33468376
Spotted the Russboo.

>produced worlds greatest assault rifle
Debatable

>better tanks
Debatable

>airplanes
Debatable

>nukes
The Tsar Bomba was a meme

>sam
Only because their airforce was shit

>It was an amazing success that turned Russia from a group of farmers to superpower overnight

Kek, let's just gloss over the millions of people that died in the process.

>>33466211

>kinetic round

I guess "same damn bullet we've used since Vietnam" doesn't have the same ring to it.

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>>33470142
>M48s and M60A1s driven by freshly purged Iranians vs T-72s driven by well-trained by sandnigger standards Iraqis

There's a 2 generation gap between the two, and the Iran/Iraq War is literally the only example where Soviet tanks outperformed Western.