are pistol carbines any good for rifle training? I'm not

>>33444305
You'd be better off with one of those 22lr "training" guns.
A full weight gun, but shooting 22lr. Personally, I want a cz455 trainer even if it's not an official milsurp model.

Just get a .22 and practice with that. .22 is at least somewhat designed to go farther than 50 yards. At 100 yards pistol calibers have atrocious bullet drop.

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>>33444330
>At 100 yards pistol calibers have atrocious bullet drop.
Same with 22lr, my practice gun is a 22cal pellet rifle. It's pretty heavy and feels like a real gun, and almost free to shoot.
>set target at desired distance
>shoot clankers till you get good enough to hit small one
>move further away
>repeat

>>33444305

5.56 doesn't have noticeable recoil, especially in a 20 inch gun.

9mm can be had for 10 cents per round, though, so there is that.

>>33444328
>>33444330
OP here

I already planned on getting a .22 pistol and rifle but those things nave next to no recoil. I figured a PCC would have enough recoil for me to get used to the kick of an actual rifle

>>33444355
So would you suggest starting at .22 then going up to an intermediate Like a 7.62 or 5.56?

Also side note what would be a good progression for pistols? I got a .45 CCW that I'm decent with but .45 is on the high side in terms of "difficulty" IMO

>>33444417
>So would you suggest starting at .22 then going up to an intermediate Like a 7.62 or 5.56?
Only for cheapness sake if anything.
Intermediate calibers are all pretty tame, especially 545x39/556x45. They're just loud.

>>33444417

Get a 22 and practice with it at 25 yards, maybe 50 yards.

When you get good at that, look into 5.56 or x39.

>>33444489

Everybody with more than one gun should have at least one 22 so OP may as well get one now.

>>33444517
OP here

I planned on getting one soon but I'm strapped for cash right now. I was gonna grab a pistol and a rifle when I got the chance

>>33444517
>Everybody with more than one gun should have at least one 22
I wholeheartedly disagree.
Buy 22 if it interests you, and not just because the internet things you "need" it to train. I like 22 well enough, but I never touch my 10/22 when I can shoot any intermediate cartridge, though a gun that actually looks cool and give me joy to shoot.
I only use 22lr through a pistol, I feel like it's an extremely poor long-gun cartridge. It's just not fun.

Find a range that will rent you an AR in 5.56 for an hour. Should not be hard to find. Give it a try.

Compared to 54r it's gonna feel like you're shooting nothing at all.. nothing at all... nothing at all..

>>33444544
even 54r is pretty meh feeling IMO, you just need to know how to shoulder a rifle properly

>>33444531

Then get a basic bitch AR. They are cheaper than non-nugget slavshit these days.

>>33444531
What's got you strapped for cash, OP?

>>33444542
I think you misunderstand .22

>>33444580
OP here

My wife's son's birthday is next week.

>>33444585
Well, I've shot 22 since the early 90's. I've had plenty of time to form my opinion.
>my opinion

>>33444580
OP here

I bought pretty much my entire gun collection in the time span of a month, got fined by obongocare and had to help my dad pay property tax. All the while trying to pay my bills and save for a car

Freedom isn't free desu

>>33444588
Fake OP should have married a qt conservative virgin

>>33444623
>conservative
>virgin

Lmao, good luck getting to her before her dad or brother does.

>>33444417
>I figured a PCC would have enough recoil for me to get used to the kick of an actual rifle

I would be willing to bet $20 that the recoil is not your problem. It may be your anticipation of the recoil, but not the recoil itself.

95% of the time, the problem is one of the following

1. You're pre-compensating for the recoil
2. Your trigger pull needs work
3. You're not aligning the sights properly,

>>33445463
OP here

Just replying to /pol/ memes with /pol/ memes

>>33445575
Any tips or tricks to get over the flinch?

>>33445782
Dry firing. A lot of dry firing.

DON'T DRY FIRE A .22 WITHOUT A SNAP CAP, you'll destroy your firing pin

You want firing to be muscle memory that you do automatically; the thought of recoil never to enter into your mind.

Practice while prone, best way to get proper alignment and practice

* Get your natural point of aim, this is important https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_point_of_aim#Process
* Pull the stock into the meaty part of your shoulder, not the bone-y part
* Get proper sight alignment
* Put the middle of the top portion of your index finger on the trigger
* Breathe in
* hold it
* slowly pull the trigger __straight__ back

*click*

* exhale

Do this over and over and over slowly until you can do it in your sleep. Once you get good at that, then go to the range and do it for real.