>M1 Carbine >ok-tier reliability >fires a special snowflake

>>33427927
i dont understand whats the difference between the carbine and the grand? are those them in the picture?
I dont see why they wouldnt be allowed they look like hunting rifles to me
does it fire sniper rounds or something?

>>33427927

>Commercial versions are uncommon and expensive, and originals are going up in price

Commercials are expensive because anyone who wants a cheaper one can just get it from the CMP.
So it's very niche.

Firing fudd .30-06 in a M1 will damage the oprod unless you get an adjustable gas plug.

>>33427967
That could be fixed in a commercial version
>>33427955
The CMP IS sold out of their lower-grade stuff online

>>33427955
CMP is running out

The Garand is a particularly expensive gun to manufacture. The M1 Carbine, less so.

>>33427955

>we will never get south Korean garands

>>33427952
The M1 carbine is a much smaller gun.

>>33427952
You must be new. While they have the same diameter, the .30 carbine round is significantly shorter and slower.
And to answer your question, that picture is just both sides of the M1 Garand.

>>33428034
UU
UU

>>33428034
>>33428043
why is it banned?
not that I care or anything, just curious

>>33428017
>implying anyone wants those beat to shit piles of garbage

>>33428123
I assume it would cause kvetching in commie states because
>bayonet lug
>over 10 rounds detachable mag

Whereas the Garand is 8 round internal mag

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>>33427952
the one in the middle is the carbine.

>>33428123
It's not banned, OP is implying that if an AWB were to be enacted the M1 would be safe whereas the carbine wouldn't because it has detachable magazines and a bayonet lug.

>>33428163
i guess 8 rounds is reasonable
would be better if it was only 5 though

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>>33427927
Once the CMP runs out (push this back a few years if the Korean M1s ever show up) there will probably be a company that starts selling them. The problem is the will more then likely have shit cast receivers and the quality just wont be the fucking same as the originals. However new ones could be made very soon. There is so much after market support for the M1 already someone just needs to make new receivers. Another issue is cheap .30-1906 is basically all gone. But I guess Golden Bear is a good alternative. I could see a company making a good little penny if they made a Standard M1 (Early and Late War parts) a Tanker and a Sporter, kinda like pic related for the hunting market in .30-1906/.270 Win/7.62 Nato.243 Win/.25-06

>>33428169
they look the same to me

>>33427927

>M1 Reliable


are you serious?

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>>33427952
God I hope this is b8

>>33428198
Can you kill yourself please

>>33428169
thanks

>>33428203
you're an idiot
get some glasses

>>33428017
To be honest, most of them were stored improperly and they were not handled very nicely. Maybe some are still servicable, but the South Korean government left the majority of them to rust and rot in a damp warehouse

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>>33428225
I keep hearing that, but I have not seen a single source besides /k/

>>33428123
In states like California and New York, it fits the state definition for assault weapon
The Carbine is specifically banned by name in New Jersey because gangsters in the 1960s and 70s used them a lot so the legislature banned them. (because banning shit prevents their use in criminal activities right?)

>>33428225
Yeah I have yet to see an actual proofs to this claim other then /k/ like >>33428259 said

>>33428150
>not wanting a cool bitch gun
you go ahead and over pay for your safe queen

>>33428201
>Korean M1s

Stop it. Those Korean Garands are being sold on the open market, not returned to the US Army. The CMP can only get guns via transfers from the Department of Defense (with the exception of .22 target rifles), so they will never be sold through the CMP.

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>>33428201
That M1 makes me sad

>>33428289
I already have a CMP Garand. Why would I want an overpriced, worn out piece of shit with import markings?

>>33428266
>In states like California and New York, it fits the state definition for assault weapon

The M1 Carbine is absolutely not an assault weapon in California. The only issue with it is standard magazine capacity, but that's a separate issue, and CA-compliant 10 round magazines are easily available.

>>33427952
M1 Garand and M1 Carbine are two completely different guns. They look the same but they use different actions, fire different cartridges and were produced by different manufacturers. They have the same designation because the US Army switched how they designated equipment right before adopting the Garand. Instead of naming things by the year they were adopted they started with the Model X system. The Garand was the first infantry rifle adopted under the system, and the Carbine was the first Carbine adopted. The US armed forces going into world war 2 had like 6 items designated M1. Not confusing at all, not one bit.

>>33428203
>they look the same to me

Well, for starters, one of the guns pictured is a handgun.

>>33428309

There also beat to shit and worn out.

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>>33428309
Okay? So change that first sentence to 'When the CMP runs out and if the Korean M1s ever show up on the civilian market'

>>33428312
I was too when I first saw it. But its starting to grow on me, its sorta cute. You could always change it back to a normal M1 if you really wanted to. Its not like its these fucking monstrosities

>>33427955
That will change soon enough.

>>33428326
if they're under 600 then why not get a 2nd? It'll be in shitty condition but cmp will make sure they're safe and decent shooters. I have two and wouldn't mind a rough shooter.

>>33428553
Try to keep up. These Koreans Garands would not be going through the CMP.

>>33427927
>common fudd cartridge
Sadly it won't fire regular modern day 30-06 unless it has a modified op rod.

The M1 would be amazing if redone in some modern non-snowflake calibers in my opinion.
Like slightly enlarging the action to fit, say, 10mm Auto, .357 Mag (not new I know but fucking awesome) .44 mag, 5.7x28, 7.5 Brno, some other PDW type shit.

Fuck, a P90 mag used on the bottom of one of those would be cool as fuck and handy as hell while also being fudd approved as a squirrel gun.

A great way to make 5.7 an approved hunting cartridge kinda like those 5.56 bolt guns helped make 5.56 more fudd approved.

>>33427927
>a special snowflake caliber
L0Lno fgt pls

>>33428591
so will they becoming to the us by different means? I could care less how they get here honestly. Just want them here to help bring down the price of beat to shit gunshow/gunshop M1s. fudds ask way to much for their gun smith specials and obvious cmp rifles.

>>33428616
>unless it has a modified op rod.
No need to change the op rod. Just need to get an after market gas plug of the ported or vented variety which can be had for under 50 bucks.

>>33428616
>modern day 30-06
No such beast.
All 30-06 still has to meet the standards laid down in 1906.
Plenty of commercial ammo is Garand safe. Look for any 150gr round running around 2750fps.

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>>33427927
The M1 Carbine isn't an effective CQB wea...
https://youtu.be/k8-ycSkoYfc

>>33428717
RIP your op rod

>>33428717
>>33428957
http://www.garandgear.com/m1-garand-ammunition

>>33428341
Too bad 10 round mags suck dick reliability wise. I got 3 keep shooting brand ones and I've had all kinds of weird failures to feed

>>33428744
that old dude literally dodging bullets

>>33428627
What other firearm fires .30 carbine? It was a new cartridge designed specifically for the M1 carbine

>>33427927

M1A1 detachable 15 round magazine with Para A2 version a pistol grip folding stock.

>>33428341
Same in NY, the only issue is the bayonet lug but unless you're actually retarded enough to bring a bayonet to the range nobody cares.

>>33427927

Commercial m1 carbines are over a grand and same goes for shitty m1as(commercial m14). You must be outta your god damn mind if you think a commercial m1 garand would and will be any less expensive unless it's made by someone like norinco and in that case you'll be getting what you pay for. On a side note fuck your shit talk OP I should be getting my fulton armory m1 carbine within the next couple weeks.

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>>33428266

The m1 carbine is not banned in cali AND contrary to popular belief a bayonet lug is not an AW feature per CA law.

>>33429738
Kahr makes M1 carbines that sell for like $750. QC is hit or miss, but their customer service seems to be pretty good.

>>33429738
My LGS has a universal for $550

>>33429031
No pinned mags?

Because you can just get an M14 instead

>>33435104
>No 30-06 durr slayer
>No 8-round boolit pinger
No way, my brother.

>>33428201
The CMp will run out of guns before they run out of stripped .30-06 and .308 Garand recievers

>>33429637
>not bringing your bayo to the range
Get a load of this guy

>>33435104
>2045
>M1 Garand has become increasingly rare
>no commercial repro parts produced
>tapco releases drop-in kit to convert M1A to 8-round en bloc
>kit is unreliable, unaesthetic, and doesn't ping
>market soon flooded with M1As with en bloc kits and all-walnut furniture
I don't know how I feel about this future.

>tfw own both, both made in the same factory in early 1942
the Carbine is a much handier rifle for jsut fucking around. The full size rifle is, oddly enough, big.

How does one do bayonet practice?

>>33438191
Steal your neighbors tires and put them on fence posts in your backyard. Commence the stabbin'

>>33428744
>Veitman Veteran

>>33427927
Even though they're going up in price the CMP still has them cheaper than anybody could possibly hope to manufacture and sell them for, meaning that the only market segment to be filled in the garand market is the ultra high-end Gucci one

>>33428201
SAI has made garand receivers before

>>33440378
Cast or forged?
I know james river armory is making them for the BM-59's

>>33427927
>Reliable rifle

>buying a newly made Garand
What can an M1 Garand do better than an M1A? Maybe it weighs less?

>>33443077
It isn't shit

>>33442516
Cast, just like JRA's source.

>>33428266
The NJ banning has to do with the raid on the Plainfield Arsenal during a riot in the 1960s. That and they named every "scary" gun that existed at the time (you can directly thank Bill Ruger for that).
>because banning shit prevents their use in criminal activities right?
Totally works...

>>33443300
well memed, my noguns friend

>>33429195
I thought some Ruger Super Blackhawks were in .30 carbine?

>>33428206
be nice. Hes trying into funs

>>33428744
>Trevor from GTA V defends the second amendment

>>33427927
Because newer cheaper better rifles are available in the same calibre. The carbines snowflake cartridge sets it apart

>>33443723
Fuck Ruger. I don't know why assholes on this website support that company.

>>33444347

Modern semi-auto 30-06 cheaper than a garand?

>>33444388
>I don't know why assholes on this website support that company.
Because they don't know better. They only parrot things like get a 10/22 as a starter rifle. Myself personally, would rather that the biggest gun rights sell out have his legacy fall to pieces.

Why hasn't anyone come up with an 80%?
Also cmp has a special field grade for $830? It says it's completely refurbished aside from the receiver that will have "considerable pitting"

>>33445622
>considerable pitting
Uhhh

>>33445715
It's the CMP. What they call 'considerable' is my 'unnoticeable'.
They don't ship anything that's not safe to shoot. The unsafe guns they get are scavenged for parts.

>>33445725
Really? That's awesome, I may be dropping a g next paycheck before these things get completely swallowed up

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>>33445761
If you can comfortably spend that much, I really recommend it. Sweet shooters, great history, and they're only getting more expensive. If it scratches an itch, you can also request they leave the original wood with the rifle.
Pic is the 1942 Garand they sent me. I hope to pass it to a son someday.

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>>33445622
Wouldn't that be much more difficult to build than an AR?
>>33444510
>one person in a company was a fudd so let's hold a grudge against the entire company and everybody who works there!
How petty.

>>33446015
Just because it's not a gunlegos15 doesn't mean some mechanically inclined people wouldn't want to build it but don't or can't start from scratch

>>33428272
CMP delegation themselves said there wasn't much worth saving, if there was you'd be hearing a lot more out of them.

I'm 100% serious, there's maybe a couple thousand still in serviceable condition over there and even that is questionable.

Still want to see them stateside but dot get your hopes up.

>>33446167
The problem with that is that it doesn't have the volume that an AR/Glock 80% would have, driving costs up and making it less lucrative of an investment (for the manufacturer). AK's can get away with it because the receivers are made out of inexpensive sheet metal.

And compared to the AK/AR, the Garand is too outdated to attract le tacticool fags, but not old/rare enough to justify the tooling investment of making proper repro rifles.

>>33444388
Because he's dead and has been for years, you fucking idiot.

>>33446226
I'd disagree. They're drying up so I don't think it'll be more than a year or two before a commercial version appears. The receivers are already produced occasionally. The rest of the components are what we'd need.

>>33446226
True. I have a feeling when they do dry up to only the $8000 pristine "never used never issued never shot still in original cosmoline if you shoot this the value drops by 25%" and the $1000 Billy Bob's backwoods chopsaw sporterization and grill paint "blueing" I Kno wut I got rifles that 80%s or at least small production aftermarket receivers will start to become a thing

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>>33446350
>The rest of the components are what we'd need.
Worst Korean parts kits when?

>>33446372
How is he not repelled by this?! IS BUTTER NOT SALTY

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>>33446379
1. Unsalted butter is a thing
2. Not all popcorn has salt/ movie theater butter
3. it looks a bit damp, some of the salt might have washed away

>>33446371
Aren't Nuggets/SKS's almost at that point (with less hyperbole)?.

>>33446409
Kind of but not really, there's a point in which surplus reaches market price and then kind of plateaus, only rising with inflation.

Nuggets and SKS are in a weird place of artificial scarcity but have mostly reached that plateau unless something changes which is looking increasingly unlikely.

>>33446409
The only reason anyone wants Mosins or SKSs is because they are cheap. Once the cheap surplus market dries up, demand will evaporate.

>>33446409
Isn't this mostly due to the King nig import bans? If trumpy boy gets rid of them we should get our $150-200 nuggets and 300-400 skses back right? Even though he is a protectionist he is a business man and bros with pootiepie so it looks plausable

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>>33446477
Or people might start gouging prices for A Real Piece of History™ like pic related because fuck you.

>>33446491
>$150-200 nuggets and 300-400 skses back right?
Depends. If demand drops like >>33446477 said and fresh inventory comes in, then prices might drop. If demand stays consistent while new stock comes in, then j̶e̶w̶s̶ importers won't drop their prices.

>>33445725
I'd be interested in seeing what they call "considerable pitting". I don't think I'd spend 830 dollars on something that was, at some point, rusted to hell.

>>33446227
His kids and his company deserve to die, you fucking traitor.

>>33428312
I like it.

>>33428312
>it's just a stock modification
Eh, not a big loss, considering it's not a permanent modification and the rifle is more or less the same, just with a few more luxuries.

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>>33444272
some Automags were made in .30 Carbine, pic related.

>>33428201
Fulton Armory actually makes custom Garands, but they are expensive (at least for me). You can buy them in .30-06 or .308.

>>33446015
>one person in a company was a fudd so let's hold a grudge against the entire company and everybody who works there!
I don't agree with the anons saying that his kids deserve to die, but Ruger was a bastard who fucked us all over by supporting the '94 AWB so he could sell more Mini-14s. He was the worst kind of businessman (the sort that will willingly attempt to mess with your legal rights so he can make a buck) and he does not deserve the positive legacy that he has.

>>33447017
>made cool guns but was a shitty person
>implying you have to have either a shit or a positive legacy

>>33447058
the negative impact he had upon the firearms community should far outweigh whatever gadgets he developed. Now there's a precedent that our enemies want to return us to, and that's thanks in part to him.

>>33446846
His company has done everything they can to piss on his grave. They have ARs now, dipshit

>>33447122
>the negative impact he had upon the firearms community
What impact? Did he disseminate propaganda?
>supporting the '94 AWB so he could sell more Mini-14s
It still would have passed, token fudd or not.

>>33446914
Most of the gun is custom other than the receiver the trigger group and the op rod

>>33445725
Actually they say to get all rifles sold by them to be inspected by a qualified gunsmith. They do not claim any grade are safe to shoot as received. Some people have received ones with bad parts that needed replacement

>>33428616
>rimmed revolver cartridges
>.22 Mag rifle
You could use .308
But then it would be an M1A

>>33428744
I've seen a lot of gore videos but this one made me genuinely sick. Deputy didn't deserve to die because he didn't wanna open fire on a Vet

>>33427927
>Commercial versions are readily available and are still produced to this day

Name some?

>>33447160
Big deal. Fuck their shit ARs, fuck his kids, and fuck that nigga.

>>33447017
The NRA did worse and people still support them on here.

Bunch of traitors on this website.

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>>33457184
>i hate Y person because of thier actions!
>y person dies
>I now hate Y person's kids and entire company for some reason now!
either bait, buttmad, or blatant retardation