/AKG/ AK General

cast your votes now!
Railed dust cover
OR
Railed gas block?

(and why would be appreciated)(sidemounts need not apply)

>>33426678
>sidemounts need not apply
Well there's your problem

>>33426696
the discussion is between gas block and dust cover. we all know its better, we dont need a million shitposts of "LEL Y RNT U USE SIDE MOUNT???? ::ddddDDDDD"

>>33426678
>>33426716
>people telling you things you don't want to hear is shitposting

>>33426819
it's not that i don't want to hear it, it's that i'm already aware, and it's not what i'm asking about.

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I'm very confilcted, /akg/. I have about 1,200 dollars total. I'm 18 and gonna be buying my first gun soon. I've got my eyes set on an SLR-104, but they're just so damn expensive. I'd like to be able to buy a few other rifles as well. Are there any other nice AK-74s for a lower price?

>inb4 just buy AKM
Fuck off. 7,62x39 is shit.

>>33426953
Buy one used for 8-900, maybe cheaper if you luckout

>>33426678
replace your rear sight with a rail

>>33426973
you can be this dumb.

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>>33426678
side rails desu senpai.
dust cover if you have money and time to waste

>>33426953
Century m74, ddi, century tantal are all cheaper 74s that have the potential to blow up or fuck up.

>pro tip: get the the slr104

>>33426953
if you want a 5.45, and want it to be good, just get the slr. i got an ak as my first rifle when i turned 18 too, and i wish i had spent more for a better one in hindsight.

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>>33426977
YES!

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So close to refinishing and touching up NPAP furniture it hurts. I just want to reassemble it and shoot it so badly. Also for my first engraving job I'd say I didn't do too awfully bad.

>>33427041
Holy kek

>>33427041
>what is eye relief for 100$

>>33427041
i... what the fuck is that

>>33426953
7.62x39 for your first AK is better.

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>>33427041
>c39 owner does stupid shit
not even surprised tbqhfamalamborghini

>>33427082
Well when two homosexual men love each other very much, the lube and shit mix together into a paste, in which a c39v2 is bore from.

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>>33427041
Take off the bolt handle condom at least.

>>33427041
>>33427113
Beat me to it.

who would win in a fight, an io akm247 or a century c39v2?

>>33427131
They both work well as IED's so id say a draw.

>>33427082
a precision hunting rifle
>>33427077
it works for me
>>33427113
why, you got a problem with it? if i take it off i might scratch the p90 or mp5 it sits next to

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>>33426613
Should I move my PK-06 forward? Is there a "correct" way to mount a red dot?

>>33426971
I already looked. There are none in my area, but I will continue to keep an eye out.
>>33427006
>>33427027
I guess I'll just cave in. It might cost me all my money, but it's worth the price.
>>33427099
Literally the only thing AKMs have going for them is that the ammo, parts, and mags are cheaper. No thanks.

>>33427170
>Literally the only thing AKMs have going for them is that the ammo, parts, and mags are cheaper. No thanks.
Oh? Says the guy that doesn't even own either one of them.

>>33427226
Please tell me the wonderful advantage of having 7,62x39 for a civilian in 2017 over 5,45x39.

>>33427159
whatever you're comfortable with, really. Most people seem to put it maybe 2 or 3 rails further out front. Some people also preach that rds should be as far forward as possible, but then it looks really silly and i personally dont like it.

>>33427240
Not even him but...
>bigger boolit (better for humane hunting and less brush deflection)
>better selection of ammunition and loadings
>better aftermarket
I could keep going. Also if you don't realize the advantages of the three above then you're an underage fag that need to grow up.

>>33427240
Not the guy you were responding to, but I can walk into any gun store and buy a box of 7.62x39. 5.45 I have to order online.

Not that that's a huge issue or anything, but it is nice being able to pop into Walmart for ammo.

>>33427240
7.62x39 is still cheap and easy to find, is OK for hunting deer and anything smaller than that, heavier bullet doesn't change its trajectory as easily as smaller bullets, and obviously it kicks the target harder. 7.62 AK mags are also everywhere.

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>>33427281
>>33427274
Looks like you fags didn't even read >>33427226 or >>33427170.

>>33427270
Who gives a shit about a better selection of ammunition and loadings when all of those are still inferior to 5,45? I do not intend to hunt with my AK, so that is not a concern.

>>33427240
this>>33427270
5.45 ammo variety is more scarce than any other caliber I own. also costs more than 7.62

your choices include fmj or Hornady Vmax.
that's it

>>33426613
but thats not an AK?
is the akg guy retarded? wtf

>>33427322
I guess you didn't read >>33427226 or >>33427170 either.

>Go inna gun stores today
>Wind up at Cabela's
>Looking around the rifles
>See three RAS47's grouped together
>I avoid them like the plague
>A few minutes pass
>Some other guy is checking one out
>I have to fight to resist yelling at him to drop it and run away.

>>33427321
Just buy whatever you want you pedantic whiner.

>>33427321
>Who gives a shit about a better selection of ammunition and loadings when all of those are still inferior to 5,45?
They're LITERALLY not though you fucking mongoloid.
>I do not intend to hunt with my AK, so that is not a concern.
So what exactly do you intend to do? Shoot paper your whole life?

>>33427328
>>33427321
Why do you keep using my post as a reference when I think you're fucking retarded and I btfo you.

>>33427321
Muh 500m sniper AK shooting 40 year old design ball
>7n6 isn't very good friendo

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This is a Suomi KP AK thingy some dude made.

>>33427386
>he actually put an ALG AKT in it
LMAO

>>33427354
5,45 is objectively better than 7,62 in human tissue. Yes, I intend to shoot paper, steel, and - God forbid - humans.
>>33427363
I used your post to demonstrate that all their arguments are about cost of ammo and/or mags.
>>33427380
Just a picture, m8. I'll probably pick up some Golden Tiger.

>>33427398
Golden tiger is even worse lol you're hopeless

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>>33427386
if it didn't look so horrible i would probably want one. mabye if it looked like pic related

>>33427398
>5,45 is objectively better than 7,62 in human tissue.
5,45 has objectively harder time getting into human tissue, seeing how everyone and their mothers are nowadays packing kevlar and steel, or at least hiding in bushes or behind walls.

>>33427398
anything in soft point is better in human tissue.

guess what you won't find in 5.45?

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>>33426953
Buy it and never look back.

>>33427047
looks nice, id do the same with my wasr but apparently the wood is shit.

>>33427398
>5,45 is objectively better than 7,62 in human tissue.
Nope.
>Yes, I intend to shoot paper, steel, and - God forbid - humans.
Yeah, have fun if you ever decide to go innawoods and come across a bear, mountain lion, or tweaker.
>I used your post to demonstrate that all their arguments are about cost of ammo and/or mags.
My argument in the post you keep referring to had nothing to do with that argument, just pointing out that you don't own either caliber of AK and probably have never even shot them. You have nothing but some shallow book knowledge that you don't understand.

>light cartridge can carry more for patrol
Who cares
>low recoils for focused automatic for
Doesn't apply
>hardened steel projectiles
Not here
>flat shooting for 400m+
Not a concern of mine

Why is 5.45 the greatest again?
>muh YouTube videos of 2 gun matches
Faggot

>>33427398
Have fun plinking with ammo that you don't have, I sold my 74 three years ago because you can't find decent ammo worth shit. 7.62 is literally everywhere and you don't have to twist your dick in a knot to find decently priced ammo. Also have fun paying $30 a mag minimum most places with even a minuscule amount of good reputation.

But go ahead- buy your dream gun and totally ignore everyone telling you otherwise with good reason.

>>33427530
>lso have fun paying $30 a mag minimum most places with even a minuscule amount of good reputation.

A fucking 7.62 bakelite is $30 at minimum you stupid fuck.

>>33427327
Clearly it's a shitposter, and not the regular OP.
The format alone is a dead giveaway.

>I don't capitalize /akg/ and I post the pastebin in the first post

>>33427530
You are one google search away from finding good quality 5.45 ammo priced roughly the same as 7.62x39.

What happened to the /akg/ 5.45 bandwagon?

>>33427450
>>33427449
>>33427499
Have either of you seen a 5,45 ballistics test?
>>33427449
Is Tyrone going to be wearing body armor when he breaks into my house?
>>33427450
They make 5,45 soft points by the way.
>>33427499
There are no bears, mountain lions, or tweakers here.
>>33427530
I don't have a problem paying more for ammo when the round is this superior, and by more I mean literally 3 cents per round. Mags are also not nearly as expensive as you say.

>>33427545
Then buy a $10 steel mag like everyone else.

>>33427530
I wouldn't go that far. You can find 5.45 plenty online but you just have to be more wary and unless you have plenty of money in your bank account to stock up when you do find it for a decent price... then yeah, 7.62x39 is far superior.

>>33427545
Yeah keyword there BAKELITES, not regular steel mags you dim-witted semen soaked tard.

>>33427562
5.45 soft point where ?

>>33427552
Shit I thought it was one of the very dedicated anons who were fighting for the pastebin to be included. That means you have to make 3 posts for every new thread. Rough.

>>33427545
>hurrrr look, there's expensive things of this variety too!
Yeah and you can get surplus steel mags for 1/3 the cost

>>33427570
>>33427575
>>33427590

>Wanting a fuckton of steel

No, I'd rather have plastic. I like the aesthetic but I hate carrying them around.

>>33427562
>Have either of you seen a 5,45 ballistics test?
Have you?
>inb4 comparing some low velocity Tula to surplus 7n6 that we can't even import anymore
>There are no bears, mountain lions, or tweakers here.
Well enjoy when the Wendingo rips your dick off

>>33427558
5.45 is my go to innawoods caliber.

>it's another 5.45 vs 7.62 episode

Jesus fuck just buy the one you want, or even better, buy both

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>>33427615
>>33427613
>people care about ballistics

>>33427558
>What happened to the /akg/ 5.45 bandwagon?
No one is saying 5.45 is bad, just that if you're looking at your first AK, 5.45 is a bad choice.

>>33427578
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/wolf-545x39-sp-55-grain-750-rounds?a=1683557

http://www.hornady.com/store/5.45x39-60-gr-v-max-steel-case/

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>>33427496
It shouldn't be too bad, the engraving is only about 2mm deep at it's deepest points and that shouldn't do anything even remotely damaging to a stock- even if it isn't the greatest wood.

>>33427613
And you're a dick munching retard who apparently also goes on /r9k/ to shill his own shitty memes

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>tfw the only markings on my M72B1 kits receiver was the serial number
I just want to know the date it was made damnit

>>33427625
I'm not really sure what happened with /akg/ over the past day or so, /arg/ has somehow been more comfy

I think someone is trying to undermine the general

>>33427656
Maybe it's because you've shown up in the past couple of days you subversive Bike

>>33427665
>you subversive Bike
I've barely been in /akg/ other than answering some questions desu

>>33427645
What is /r9k/?

I dont venture far from 4 chan.

>>33427635
Interesting, ive never witnessed the soft points in stock. Any isssue with deformation of the soft point, causing feeding issues ?

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>>33427645
>>33427613
>>33427686
You posted this shit on some shitty thread about some faggot's "ex-gf" or whatever

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>>33427643
how'd you refinish your stock? i'm looking for something a little bit darker. also i know fuck all about woodworking.

>>33427686
I've never had a problem with VMAX, but I've never tried Wolf SP.

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>>33427651
Someone validate me.

I'd say from the spotless bolt and piston, this rifle is pretty much brand spanking new

>>33427635
>>33427665
gas the bikes, race car now

>>33427635
sure, that sp existed once, many years ago.

vmax is not soft point, but it is better than fmj.

>>33427719
Literally 10 seconds of google away

>>33427708
There's a couple people with that image saved tho

>>33427708
When ? I dont have that particular one saved on my phone ? I litteraly only stay on /k/ and mainly /akg/.

>>33427723
Ive shot plenty of vmax, would love to get some soft points to try tho.

>>33427731
It's literally still for sale at the link I posted. Are you retarded?

>>33427769
Out of stock with a notify me at sportsman's guide.

>>33427499
A man in Alaska took a bear down with a 74 and 7N6.

>>33427769
>out of stock
Yeah, really for sale, right? Also polytipped hollowpoints aren't the same thing as softpoints you dumb faggot

>>33427796
Holy....

>>33427796
People have killed grizzlies with .22lr, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

So are milled AKs better than stamped in terms of longevity?

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>>33427719
Sanded off the fugly ass puke yellow finish until you could see grain
Sanded again and again with finer and finer grit sandpaper until it was very smooth (start at 120g and stop at 400g)
Stained it with some gun-stock colored wood stain (with some red + orange dye mixed in for a more bakelite color)
Applied about 5-6 of amber shellac (from a air compressed spray brush)
Sanded that with 800g sandpaper to take the bumps off (about to hit the stock up with it tomorrow)
Applied another 3-4 coats of shellac (from a air compressed spray brush)
Wait for it to dry (about a week to be sure here since it's humid and chilly)
Do what you will to the stock (I engraved Serbian crest as best as I could and filled with antique gold rub buff)
(If you do do anything like engrave the stock remember to put a coat or two more of shellac to re-seal the furniture)

And at the moment I'm just waiting for the current final sealing coat of shellac to dry so I can sand with really fine sandpaper and apply some dulling wax so it isn't super glossy.

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>>33427719
Not him but there is a lot of options out there. If you just want the wood to be darker but retain the same matte finish, get some stain. Lightly sand the wood with some fine sandpaper then apply the stain using a brush or old stock. Lots of stain options out there, and since you have a blonde wood the color shown on the stain container will be close. It will be darker when you apply it, so let it dry before deciding to add another coat.

If you want gloss, you've got two main options: Polyerethane and shellac. Poly is much stronger but IMO has a more plasticy shine to it. Shellac is more fragile; it will chip if you ding it, but it gives a rich luster. There are a lot of guides on how to apply shellac as well. Shellac comes in clear and amber colors. Amber is what a lot of ruskie stocks use.

What I did for this rifle stock is two coats of red oak stain, followed by about 30 coats of amber shellac; all applied with an old sock.
I'd coat it then set it down for an hour to dry before applying another coat. However, this wood was a bit darker than yours is, and also has unique grain patterns while yours does not so the final product wont look the same

>>33427826
Yes, but you'll have so many rounds through it before that comes into play you'll likely never achieve it or not care

>>33427731
>gas the bikes, race car now
Fuggin kek

>>33427821
I'd honestly rather fend for myself with a 5.45 against a bear, more confident that I can get multiple shots on target.

>>33427530
I can find 5.45 pretty easy online and its the same price as 7.62x39. Mags are around 30 bucks sure, but they fucking last forever.

So yea... no real cons to owning a 5.45 or a 7.62, though I do recommend a 7.62 for your first AK

>>33427826
Yeah, the bigger benefit of the milled receivers though is that their generally smoother rifles.

>>33427837
Isn't the cut off for stamped AKs like 10000? That would last me like 6 years at the rate I shoot.

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>>33427846
30rnds of either will be sufficient for a bear.

>>33427732
im drunk, also fuck you.

>>33427858
10k if you rarely maintain your AK, if you constantly clean and lube your AK even stamped can last you upwards of 25k rounds (depending on brand maybe even more)

>>33427858
He receiver? No much much much more.. 50k+ likely. Many barrels worth

>>33427868
You won't be able to get off more than 3 unless you have full auto.

>>33427876
>>33427881
So is the trunnion the weak point or the bolt?

>>33427858
Even with a stamped receiver the barrel will go out before the receiver. You're talking like 50k rounds or more before the receiver may or may not crack, and those are with full auto rifles. Probably 75k with semi-auto only

Anyone shoot RAS 60 grain 5.45? Looks like a good deal on SGammo, obviously GT is better but I'm trying to conserve the GT as much as possible cause of how long it took to get it back.

>>33427903
>You won't be able to get off more than 3 unless you have full auto.
Seriously? "No"

>>33427832
thanks for the info anon, also im assuming you did 30 coats of shellac because its fragile? I can't imagine poly would take that much.

>>33427903
Trunnions crack eventually. I mean there isn't heaps of evidence but anecdotal battlefield vegas reports WASRs with 100,000 on the receiver

>>33427912
I'd prefer that Wolf stuff (the "milspec" or whatever wolf) or 7n6

>>33427912
shot plenty of the 69 grain. does what it's supposed to

>>33427903
>So is the trunnion the weak point or the bolt?
You have to remember that most of these high round count rifles are all machine guns at machinegun rental places. Unless you're doing full auto mag dump after mag dump it's a pretty conservative number.

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>>33427858
>>33427920

Battlefield Las Vegas on stamped AKs:

"...fair to say that they finally suffer a catastrophic failure (cracked trunion) at 80,000-100,000 rounds. Also, we have WASR’s that have suffered a catastrophic failure and we just pull out the old trunion and barrel, grab one from a parts kit, re-rivet, re-barrel and get them up and running."

Those are full-auto rifles being magdumped by tourists every day.

>>33427868
Is that rain in the background? Scenic

>>33427963
This.

>>33427041
Hahahahahahahahaa. Man that's shitty.

>>33427963
Ah, I misread the article.

So if you had a choice, would you prefer a stamped or a milled?

>>33427963
Yeah pretty much it's such a high round count it isn't worth devoting a lot of time researching. If you shor that much a $1000 rifle is literally inconsequential. I've never read a forum post of a civilian shooting their Whole AK out, barrels yes, trunnions or receivers no

>>33427983
Not him but I'd go stamped for the weight savings. I'd probably buy one decent milled (with a fixed stock, no underfolder) rifle to pass down.

>>33427916
It gets richer with every coat. They're very thin. After 30 I decided I liked the color

>>33428016
It gets bigger when I pull
>mmmhhhhhhmmmmm

>>33427916
Also depending on how much alcohol you mix with the shellac it can range from paper thin to reliably thick, but also keep in mind high % mixture of alcohol dries really quickly allowing you to put on more layers quicker, but the thicker shellac w/ lower % mixed alcohol will dry slower but usually apply in thick coats.

Who has the hottest AKs in this general?

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>>33428096
Anyone with a 104

>>33428058
leaning more towards poly, how long should I wait between each coat, both stain and poly.

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>>33428107
Instructions are on the can dude.

>>33428096
Me

>>33428137
I should probably stop drinking.

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finally solved the VEPR rail issues. i built a solid billet rail with an additional rivet so the scope will lock down tight and not change point of aim when you pull trigger. excuse the poor paintjob, i tried to matte down a glossier aluma-hyde and it needs to be cured and sanded, or stripped and redone

had to make my own rivets from round stock as well.

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>>33427964
Its was a nice day we left in a downpour.


>>33427903
How many was this ?

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>>33428172

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>>33428096
Mine's pretty neat

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>>33428096
Probably that dude with the Vepr 1V, and the other guy with the RPK-74 who always takes almost black and white pics

There's another FL dude with full zenit as well, but he doesn't post here

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>>33427041

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>>33428189
as an added bonus i modified the rail shape so it sits higher, meaning the scope finally clears the rear sight

>>33428182
>have three seconds to get your rifle from slung across your shoulder to pointing at whatever is charging at you and actually hit
>standing on the range all set up is a good substitute for that
Almost all incidents are one, maybe two shots unless you wanted to get into trouble.

>>33428172
That sounds kind of excessive but that is a really nice job. What was wrong with other mounts?

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post some absurdly heavy setups

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>>33428270

>>33428265
the VEPR mount is cast, hollow on the back, only has a rivet on each end, and bows to where you could probably slip a shim between it and the receiver. then when you go to install an SVD or AK type mount, either one places the claws over cutouts on the rail so they barely have any dovetail to lock on to.
there may be other mounts on the market, but i needed to move the scope up half an inch so i just made one. now after doing all this they started to sell a taller version of the scope for VEPRs, but oh well.

>>33428304
That neat, are you going to start selling them?

>>33428328
nope, it requires custom fitting due to the extra rivet. it took too long to make as well.

>>33428374
You did that all on a manual?

>>33427562

Have you ever seen what federal fusion or 8M3 or other hollow point does, 5.45 is trash

>>33427796

after dumping an entire mag yes amazing! 5.45 is good!

>>33427912

Commercial 5.45 ammo is neutered int he powder charge minus the GT.

>>33428393
yeah but i could CNC them if i wanted to sell some i guess. it really bugs me to offer non bolt-on parts though

>>33427938

thats the worst of the shit 5.45 ammo, velocity of that is barely faster then 7.62x39 2600fps 60 grain.....real man stopper!

>>33428474
You're wrong, you're thinking of the other wolf 5.45 you stupid fuck.

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postan for reference now that anons are talking 5.45 velocity

keep in mind 69gr RAS is TOO hot and people have experienced blown primers

>>33428450
I'd imagine a decent amount to find people would want that, and people who mod thier AKs are usually fine with a bit of fiddling get now and then.

Float it on AK files, they would probably be really receptive to it

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I need some mountain EMR in my life

>>33428671
>tfw no AK-107
That sight radius looks wayyyyy too long though.

>>33428671
That stock looks neat.

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>>33428698
I have only seen it in this photo-shoot.

I want one too.

>>33428690
looks awesome to me senpai

>>33428721
It's a sexy as fuck stock. Wish there were more pictures of it.

>>33428509

Jesus, just get 7.62, why shoot a small ass .21 caliber projectile hardly any faster then 7.62x39, 5.45 a shit.

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One of these will turn up for sale eventually.

I wonder how much it will go for.

>>33427449
??? 5.45 has excellent penetration compared to 7.62 and even 5.56.

>>33428815
>And even 5.56
lel

>>33428815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACqhW2ThcqI&spfreload=10

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This thread is boring not enough ak .

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>>33428789
>MFW I made that collage

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>>33428885
Nices kittys.

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>>33426953
if you dont own an AK, dont have your first one be expensive 5.56, it makes no sense.

get a 7.62x39 one for cheaper, and spend the rest on a red dot and a mount along with ammo.

>mfw

>>33427240
effective range is negligible

larger bullet better at cutting through brush and shit, if you intend to hunt with it

cheaper

CHEAPER, and as an american it makes no sense to not go 5.56

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>>33428910

>16 KG!

>>33427159
no, its completely your preference

>>33427240

5.45 does nothing 7.62 doesnt do better and has cheaper ammo and the commercial ammo for it is dogshit?

>>33428944
despite having no prior experience with either caliber, the guy is adamant in his untested opinions.

at this point I just want to see him disappointed and wasting money.

>>33427321

5.45 is inferior to 7.62.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFkLAgGy6w&spfreload=10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ENhmMKuaVU

>>33429024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Y4ixQfWkI&spfreload=10

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>>33427041
It's okay Anonymous⭐, I have a C39V2 as well.

>all this 5.45 vs 7.62

Anybody here watch Justice League? I've been gettin into it recently, this shit is pretty good

>>33429180
>MP's be like: "Enlisted grunts are retarded"

>>33426953
i have an SLR104 and a rear-converted saiga - i'm only going to keep one. if you're in TX i'd be happy to sell one FTF or ship to your FFL out of state

>>33429018
lol good point

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I bought this stock 2 years ago. What should i put it on? It just been sitting.

>>33429968
5.5mm ?

>>33429974
Yeah.

>>33429988
Put it on a saiga that been converted.

>>33427240
1600ft-lbs hollow points will serve you better than a 50 grain mild steel tumbling round.

5.45 advantages
>lighter, soldier can carry more, more ammo in a box, more ammo in a plane
>less material, cheaper to produce and ship
>less recoil for grazing fire etc
>extended effective range out to say 4-500
>perhaps .5MOA accuracy by design

they really don't serve a civilian all that well
I love 5.45 its really neat, but not for any real practical reason

>>33429817
Holy shit. I never thought I'd see a mag from Kostroma. Cool find.

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>>33429817
Hey Daewoo, why aren't you out /removinglocalcommies/?

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R8

>>33430119

the only practical advantages 5.45 has over 7.62 are it's more controllable on full auto, and its lighter.

minus the full auto for us, it's lighter, whoo pee, incredible.

Both land hits on man sized targets out to 300 yards, so accuracy is irrelevant considering were talking tissue damage I imagine were talking about combat use of the rounds, and not fudd paper shooting bench rested, but if so yes, you may get 1 moa more out of 5.45, whoo pee, incredible.


at extended ranges 5.45 is easily swayed by wind, and 7.62 becomes more accurate due to a larger heavier projectile being more stable in flight.

>>33430493

forgot to add the only round even remotely "good" in the 5.45 market in 7n6, which is already decades old surplus and slighter better then 7.62 m43 ball in flesh, which isn't anything to write home about at all.


commercial offerings of 5.45 are all out of spec regarding velocity.

What does /akg/ think of this bullshit: >>33430258

>>33430517
I think I'll wait to see what the alleged letter says.

>Much like Vepr RPKs, I'll believe it when I see it.
Steel core is highly unlikely to get unbanned though.

>>33430553
It's 99% bullshit most likely

>>33430481
Fooking noice

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>p.o. box intensifies

>>33430493
No it doesn't. 7.62x39 doesn't have any advantage at longer ranges due to it arching like a muthafucking rainbow. Try shooting one at 400m plus and you'll see what I mean.

>>33426613
Ehhm dude u know that isnt an ak or even part of the AK family, right?

>>33430994
Wrong

>>33430994
Well, it is in the Kalashnikov Encyclopaedia.
>But then again, so are IOs

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>>33430979
>Try shooting one at 400m plus and you'll see what I mean.
Finnish Defense Forces uses RK95+ACOG as their "DMR" of sorts, and has shown to drop targets at 450m.
Then again, even in WW2 people realized that huge majority of combat takes place at distances LESS than 200 meters. This is especially true innawoods and in dense urban environment. In home defense situations, you got a couple meters of space at best.

>>33431086
The Finnish use a better gun plus brass ammo made by Lapua. Which is both top quality compared to your average joe with a WASR and a case of shitty Tula.

>>33431086
Plus the optic, it gets drastically easier with an ACOG.

Yes you are correct about most shootings will be

>>33427441
Why is that so fucking aesthetic?

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>>33429917
Hnnng

>>33427964
>>33430481

I'm that retard with the VEPR from the last thread. Figured it out, the Tapcos have more material in the rear lug/hump and that's keeping it from seating properly in the magwell. It's either fuck with the magazine catch or dremel the mag, which I'll be doing. Thanks for your help.

>>33430994
yes it's an AK look at it

>>33431403
>t. Democratic lawmaker

>>33431415
what does me being a Democrat have to do with anything drumpftarf

>>33431443
It means your a shit stain

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>>33427327
>>33430994
shhhh... nobody will notice
>>33427530
>I sold my 74 three years ago because you can't find decent ammo worth shit.
Literally the laziest person in the history of internet searches. Unless you are unlucky enough to be in a state that's banned online ammo purchases. That ups the difficulty a bit, but it's not like you couldn't use an ffl to get some.
>>33428096
I'd like to think I'm at least in the running because of the 1v rpk alone.
>>33428192
So that's two of us on /k/ that have one?

>>33431623
His is actually a 74M clone build in 5.45

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>>33431650
Neat I guess, I just thought that had to be a 556 mag of some sort.

>>33431678
I think it's the 95 round drum made by Century or Atlantic or whoever. Can probably dump it pretty fast with that ALG trigger. Only thing I like about the G2 is that you can shoot fast as heck with it.

>>33430517
The guy that supposedly does the "web stuff" for the ammo dealer with the letter can't figure out how to scan the letter in a way that he can post it, or post it to imgur and provide a link.
That's not completely retarded at all.

>>33430497
>>33428509
No, they aren't all "out of spec."

RAS and TulAmmo are garbage, the other offerings on the market are fine.

They are heavier bullets with similar muzzle energy to 7N6.

>>33431775
Tul goes bang. Ita fine.

>>33431623
>So that's two of us on /k/ that have one?
I wish, that's on my list of shit to buy

>>33431650
>>33431704
Chimps is correct. The drum is kind of shitty, but it's a pretty good time when it's actually feeding properly.

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>>33426613
>AK general
>posts a VZ

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>>33431623
>>33428192
Where to buy Vepr rpk?

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>>33431812
>Where to buy Vepr rpk?
You need to go back in time, and be lucky enough to buy it within about a 1 or 2 month window before the russian sanctions.
Otherwise it'll take some extreme patience on gunbroker, and a couple thousand bucks at least now.

>>33431831
And see the mag on the table there?
Did I mention how fun it is to shoot tracers out of this thing?

>>33430424
>That pamphlet on gun control

So now that a repub is in the white house, the left is suddenly going to bitch about gun control? Fucking bullshit.

>>33431831
can someone briefly explain to a noob how the "go back in time and get one" Vepr RPK's are different from the Vepr's that are currently available that are all advertised to have RPK barrels, trunnions, receivers, and furniture?

>>33431831
Where to buy time machine?

>>33431831
But arent veprs/molot not part of russians sanctioned deal?

>>33431880
vepr sporters slipped through the bans

>>33431880
Correct, they are not.
Not sure why he mentioned the sanctions in regards to Molot.

>>33431886

To be more precise, Molot is not part of Kalashnikov Concern, the organization that was specifically named in the sanctions, which prevents Saiga's from being imported.

>>33431873
i've got one but I can't sell it to you now. give email address and in a few years i'll meet with you now and sell it to you. if I don't show up a few minutes after you post your email address something will have gone horribly wrong for me in the future.

>>33431916
[email protected]

>>33431938
don't tell me here if I show up there. don't want to risk a paradox.

>>33431889
Then why no more imports?

>>33431966
There are.

>>33431966
I can't explain why (or even if) form 6's aren't being approved for Vepr's, but it is very clear that Molot is not part of the Kalashnikov Concern and are therefor not banned from import. This was all made very clear back when the sanctions were originally announced.

>>33431989
I know that. Just asking why they arent bringing in anymore rpks.

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>>33431880
They "could" import more.
>>33431889
Because even though veprs weren't effected, people panic bought all of them instantly. The price of the rpks doubled overnight.
>>33431871
Because the actual RPKs have the cleaning guide rod on the barrel, 90 degree cuts on the back of the receivers, take actual rpk furniture(and folder stock), and have the collar behind the front sights to actually put a bipod onto.

Molot is not owned by ROSTEC. That's why they aren't banned. Molot is afraid of pissing off the ATF that's why they are cautious about bringing in RPK's.

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>>33432013
>Because the actual RPKs have the cleaning guide rod on the barrel, 90 degree cuts on the back of the receivers, take actual rpk furniture(and folder stock), and have the collar behind the front sights to actually put a bipod onto.

thanks for that explanation. I clearly see all of those things you mentioned with the exception that current Veprs do appear to be 90 degree receivers. those slant cuts were in abomination IMO. no offense intended to any slant cut owners ITT.

>>33432035
Molot doesn't bring in Veprs to the US. FIME group does. Maybe they're the one's being cautious.

>>33432077
I cant do push ups. Beergut to big. Hands cant put on ground because holding beer mostly...mostly.

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>>33432097
Lift more .

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>>33432045
>those slant cuts were in abomination IMO
Personally, I like the slant cuts on rifles with the sporter stocks.
But it'd be better overall if they were all straight cuts and more convertible though. And it's not just the rear stock, it'd be nice if the sporter furniture required the regular rpk retainers so you could swap at will.

>>33432068
FIME group wasn't the ones bringing in the 1V's.

>>33432222
When the fuck did sporter veprs have fluted barrels?

>>33432394
True, but since then FIME made a deal with Molot to be the only US company to import their guns, so IO won't be able to get any more 1V's from Molot.

>>33432594
It was only the 556/545 ones that had them. Just shortly before the russian sanctions.
I wanted to buy one so bad, they were only 500 each.

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>>33428789

>>33432672
Intresting. Thanks.

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My power is growing

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>>33433034
>US customs has postponed your package delivery until further notice

>>33429256
I'm a different anon but I'm interested in the 104. Where in Texas are you?

>>33426835
then why ask about the shit options?

https://www.apexgunparts.com/polish-akmsl-parts-kit-with-night-vision-mounting-rail-very-good-matching.html

Oh my

>>33433389
>$899
Yeah fuckin right

>>33432077
I was so hung over I forgot to take photos

>>33427398
M43 is worse than 7n6
but Yugo M68/Golden Tiger also tumbles

also, Winchester, Hornady, Federal, Remington, and PPU make good expanding ammo, and all the usual suspects make ok-ish steel jacket SP
with 5.45, you're limited to V-Max or FMJ

5.45 does tumble better, but the quality and variety of expanding (a better wounding mechanism) ammo for 7.62 is far superior

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>>33433034
Your package might be rubbing up against mine RIGHT NOW.

>>33431966
there are imports still...

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>>33432609
and I'm FIME with that

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>>33433923

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Question I understand that krebs custom rifles are concidered questionable at best, but what about their stock mounts? I'm looking at their m4 stock adapters and was wondering if anyone has experience with them be that personnel or second hand.
another question I have a arsenal slr 107 and was wondering from the adapter options there are yugo and saiga adaptor options the slr would take the saiga adaptor correct?
last question does anyone have experience with the gen 3 dogleg from texas weapon I understand the gen 2 had some problems but hear they fixed them in gen 3

phone posting so heres some cute bacon

>>33434360
dunno about the adapter but dog leg rails can bend really badly might want to get that zenitco b33 rail

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Cali cuck here, about to go featureless

>>33430424
I wonder what the black kerchief on the one guy in the last pic means
Is he the only anarchist in a group of commies in this antifa group? Or is he the leader?

>>33434420
thanks didn't even know about them

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>>33434525
finished product should look like this in about 14 hours

>>33434601
>if they can't get their thumb behind the grip it will stop mass shootings

This is the mentality of the average California politician isn't it?

>>33434635
it's so insane over here
After college I'm looking to move out of state but until then shit's going to suck

>>33434635
While making the gun more safe to fire at the same time :)

https://youtu.be/rJw_q-7mqDY

>>33434677
I recommend Arizona. It's like paradise wrapped in nirvana, combined with utopia. It really is the promised land. I think all California gun owners should move to Arizona.

>>33434702
I was planning on Arizona or Nevada
Arizona is my first choice though since I'm in the hell hole of southern California and I'm already use to 120+ degree days

>>33434695
magic of capitalism :^

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>>33434702
No.

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>>33434635
>implying even if it did make a difference a criminal couldn't just cut it off in 30 seconds with an xacto knife
It's never been about that, it's about putting up barriers to entry and making gun ownership tedious.

>>33434765
Don't come to Nevada. We don't need anymore of you people.

You made your bed, now lay in it.

>>33434695
so when am I getting my ak-12?

>>33434797
idiot

>>33434843
>a person who happened to be born into a politically liberal state is individually responsible for every piece of legislation in place
Hmmm

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>>33434864
no u

>>33434882
It's a state ran enterprise faggot, talk a walk around outside your spec house housing development

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>>33434695
All those sad, lonely rifles sitting in warehouses

Trump better fix this shit NOW!

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>>33432089
fawking boss
7/10
would operate with

you could use a bit more exercise tho.
dat cardio, bro. do it.

Barreled parts kit jump on them......

http://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/akpk4002.htm

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>>33434996
lol?

>>33434996
>Each parts kit contains all US made parts
My guess: IO rifles that were so bad, they just fucking cut them up in hopes people would buy them for parts or potentially build them better by themselves.

Also check this out >>33433389

>>33434996
Kek.
Wonder if they have their patented 5mm gas port predrilled.
>Here, you build this bomb.

>>33434953
Im in gains atm, 185lbs 6ft , i want to be at 195-200lbs before i cut.

>>33435027
Saw that, gimme that stock

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>>33435027
Don't forget both their semi-free floated, match grade barrels.

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Given they're about the same price, WASR or PSAK-47?

>>33435456
foreign > domestic

>>33435456
WASR

>found an arsenal SLR for 500
>seller is unusually avoidant about an FTF and keeps saying he would rather ship
>got an alert from armslist about the seller being a scammer
Nothing good ever happens to me.

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>>33435311
>semi-free floated

>>33435469
Try to look on the bright side. The good thing that happened to you is that you didn't get scammed.

I know it's not much comfort, but it's better than nothing.

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>>33427240

>>33435469
you're gonna make him leave his dying wife just to do a FTF?

>>33435469
Don't feel too bad. I found a Maadi this that fuck keeps listing and after about three texts he'll stop replying once I ask for pictures.

>>33436203
I wonder if it's the same person selling the $2500 Tigr within the last year or so? (I might be wrong about the price but it was WAY too cheap)

>>33426613
>AKG
>Posts a Vz. 58

>>33436315
Tigers on armslist are almost always a scam. I've messaged about a dozen different people with listings. They will never want to meet FTF.

>>33436325
>Almost Kalashnikov General

>>33432672
I realize this is a 5 hour old post, but if you're really that into the fluted barrel, I have an 18" 5.45 that I never shot. I pulled the barrel for my project gun, so now I just have a new 18" fluted 5.45 barrel that's just collecting dust.

>>33436335
MY WIFE IS IN THE HOSPITAL YOU WANT ME TO LEAVE MY DYING WIFE SO I CAN TAKE PICTURES?

>>33436415
My condolences
>lol

alright, which one of you retarded faggots is going to make a new thread?
try not to fuck it up as much as OP fucked up this one.

>>33436458
Why don't you do it?

New thread

>>33436462

>>33436462

>>33436462

>>33436434
Best thread ever tbqh. Wish someone had the screencap

>>33436525
give me a timeframe when it happened, and what it was about and I'll try to find it in the archives.

>>33436737
summer 2016? idk