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When did Anti Gun hollywood become a thing? It seems in the 70s

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When did Anti Gun hollywood become a thing? It seems in the 70s a ton of celebrities and actors openly toted guns and yet these days Hollywood is one of the main sources of anti gun propaganda, What is so ironic though is the rise of action movies in light of this.

These same anti gun hollywood morons are basically part of the gun industry. They take real weapons, put them in the hands of imaginary heroes, and blow them the fuck up on the silver screen in front of everyone. Why does a Beretta 92 cost almost 100 dollars more than a Glock? I bet at least part of it has to do with it's large presence in 80s/90s action movies. John Wick 2 brought to light something that has most likely been going on for decades. Gun companies paying a pretty penny to make sure their products are put into the hands of big movie stars, and yet these same movie stars want to pipe up about how we shouldn't be able to have guns.

Why don't you use drainage pipes instead of real guns in your movies like they do in Uganda then.
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When America became feminized due to the hard work of the gay and feminist lobby.
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>>33397296
When rich people with agendas realized that actors will say anything for money.
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>>33397354
*realized that actors are influential, and will say anything for money.
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>>33397321

>i hate gays and feminists so everything is their fault
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>>33397296
When democrats took control of Commiefornia and by extension the tax breaks and write offs that keep Hollywood in the black.
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>>33397384
>projection
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>>33397384
im not him but he's not wrong. i dont believe thats a cause, but there may be some correlation on the timeline.

the pussification of america is real and its been happening for decades.
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>>33397296
Because the younger generation of Jews that run Hollywood, are obviously much different than their parent generations. They see Hollywood as a means of propaganda for (((progressive))) policies, instead of art as it should be
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>>33397437
All art is propaganda and ever must be.
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>>33397430

can we define 'pussification' at least
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>>33397296
Just remember that back in the 60s/70s hollywood was super liberal then Clint Eastwood showed up with the Dirty Harry movies, hold out hope /k/omrade
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>>33397501
devaluation of masculinity.
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>>33397521
Too bad Clint Eastwood is against "assault weapons" so he's not much better than the rest of the Hollywood libshits.
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>>33397606

more like realizing that you can be a guy without being masculine. being a manly man isn't frowned upon outside of blogs, but it also isn't frowned upon to be a fag, cept maybe in some more rural parts of the country.

also guns aren't masculine, they're just toys.
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>>33397630
You're proving my point
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>>33397437
which is funny because for most jews, the closer they are to the Holocaust, the more pro gun they are.
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>>33397692
This.

All >>33397630 is doing is making excuses for being a numale bitch
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>>33397384
Found the sjw cuntface
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>>33397296
It's funny they hate guns but sure make a lot of movies with guns and people getting shot
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>>33400114
You have a firm grasp of the obvious.
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>>33397625
Fudds are gonna fudd, y'know?
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>>33397296
I want to unleash the inner /pol/ and sperg the fuck out, but I honestly believe that it was just trendy, politically, to "get with the times," and support the Clinton AWB during the late 80s and 90s.

Also, the fuck, John Wick is great and Reeves is progun as a motherfucker.
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McCarthy hit Hollywood hard, causing it to polarise hard D afterward. After that it was just a matter defining the D platform and ignorant people vying for approval by out-D'ing each other for social standing. These are some of the dumbest, most morally corrupt, ego-maniacal people in the country, by nature. After a generation it was just an assumed truth due to indoctrination, in the same way someone in the deep south becomes a southern Baptist.

Really it's just dumb people living in an echo chamber in a Potemkin villiage, who're too stupid to see why that's bad.
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>>33397296

>You will never operate as aesthetically as Steve McQueen
>;_;
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>>33397400
samefagn every thread saying projection when you know they just have a better argument than you
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>>33400254
Just wait for the measles epidemic in a few years which will at least 20% of all commiefornians.
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>>33397630
>also guns aren't masculine, they're just toys.
Firearms are never meant to be toys. Sure, you can make one for the sake of fulfilling a gag or showing how wealthy you are (Same applies to vehicles, clothing and other items), but the purpose of the firearm always stay as being a tool to fulfill their objectives in life: Getting food, and having a tool to fight and defend yourself when necessary. It is clear that you have not lived in rural areas or in crime filled neighborhoods, let alone, in third world nations that are in the midst of putting down insurgencies and civil wars that lasted for generations.
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>>33400414
Just wait for the measles epidemic in a few years which will kill at least 20% of all commiefornians.
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>>33397630
>Guns aren't masculine, they're just toys

You cannot possibly fathom how utterly wrong you are. Firearms are tools. Tools get work done. Getting shit done is inherently masculine.
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>>33397630
Guns are tools of war. Soldiers use tools of war. 99.999% of all soldiers were, and are, men. Thus, guns are manly.
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>>33397521
>hollywood was super liberal

They were antiwar, which was trendy at the time. It's not quite the same as being liberal, but it's very closely related.
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>>33397296
When virtue signalling became more important than personality.
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>>33397630
firearms are tools. tools are generally associated with masculinity. some tools are fun than others but it doesnt not make them a tool
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>>33397630
>guns are toys

people like you should not own firearms. its not a toy. a car is not a toy. a flamethrower is not a toy.

these things have incredible destructive power.
its a tool. we may joke around like "hey check out my new toy", but its not a fucking toy.

people like you ND.
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>>33400966
>>33400100
>>33397400

dubs speak truth.
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>>33400508
>t. nofun fud
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>>33400926
>guns are toys
"they're tools, they accomplish a task"
>that task is bad for society
>you're not actually doing that task
"owning guns safeguards my rights"
>you have to be willing to use them
>using them means killing cops
>you're not using them
"it's my right to own firearms I dont need to justify it"
"fucking faggot kill yourself"


The most popular rifle in America is the AR-15 but no civilian NEEDS a semi auto assault rifle with a 30 round magazine to accomplish civilian tasks.
7 round mags are perfectly adequate for civil use.
This is a fact.
That being said, if you people actually stopped throwing childish, dogmatic, "FUCKING YANKEE LIBERAL SLAVE GRABBERS GONNA SEND A SWAT TEAM TO MY HOUSE AND TAKE MY BLACK FLESH" confederate style hissy fits and actually had a reasonable discourse for the first time in the history of your people you might actually get some gun control that's actually common sense.
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>>33402004
There's no practical reason to prohibit assault rifles the way California does.

Hollywood shootouts are infinitesimally rare. Urban criminals don't use rifles - they're too obvious. They largely use concealable weapons; handguns and sub machine guns.
On the other hand if you're gonna fight some phantasmagorical war with the government you're not going to win wielding a 9mm.


"hurr the uzi isn't a machine gun". Consider this: Shut the fuck up.

So if pro gun people sat down with people worried about the 100 people killed by guns every day they might actually reach a compromise which gives both groups what they want.
Ban or severely limit concealable handgun sales and the murder rate will tank not only in the US but in Mexico and Canada. Like a 10% drop. Yeah, that much.

And if you're worried about EDC CC you're either:
A) a professional who can get permission, or
B) acting like a nigger. Go get some high tops while you're at it
you fucking wigger.
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>>33397296

Not gonna get into the political side but John Wick is literally the worst example you could have picked. Reeves trains a fuckton at Taran Tactical's facility, using TTI raceguns, which is probably why he chose them for use in the first place.

On the other hand, you've got Beretta working out deals with the producers of Lone Survivor to feature 92FS's, and Salient Arms outfitting every hero character in a Michael Bay movie. It's not a huge secret either, lots of people have written about it.
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>>33397354
you mean Jews
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>>33402004
Is Conclusions a nice place? You jump there a lot. I said none of that. Firearms are tools. To call them a toy is to disrespect them and hundreds of years of them being used as such.

>Last paragraph
Oh. You're either a Leaf, a troll, or an idiot, carry on.

Mandatory "Bill of Rights, not Needs," post.
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>>33397296
>John Wick 2 brought to light something that has most likely been going on for decades
What? Keanu Reeves is extremely progun.
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>>33402311
if you could read, you would realize that it said
>>33397296
>Gun companies paying a pretty penny to make sure their products are put into the hands of big movie stars

fucking christ day/k/are
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>>33397296
Because (((Hollywood))) decided US citizens shouldn't be armed.
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>>33402304
>Mandatory "Bill of Rights, not Needs," post.
2nd amendment rights advocates

In contrast to first third fourth fifth sixth seventh eighth ninth tenth amendment rights advocates.
Known to working class white conservatives as "libcucks" and to the world at large as "the ACLU"


Yeah, what would a leaf know about freedom?

It`s not like there`s expert consensus that Canada has more freedom than the US does or something.

It`s not like the United "muh freedom" States is not even top 10 for freedom.

It's not like the top 10 list is filled with gun grabbers like Australia and the UK

It's not like Canada outranks the US in personal, civil, and economic freedoms.

Oh no, not at all.
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>>33402449
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/08/18/canada-is-freer-than-the-us-fraser-institute

"You can't really have freedom without safety and security."

>I'll take freedom over safety

Safety is a prerequisite to freedom, you bunch of insulin junkies.
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>>33402288
> its da (((Jews)))

Only in this fucked up country. The real ones open carry assault rifles.
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>>33402479
So do you tuck when you go out in public?

Safety is an illusion. Look at all those safe folks in London. Your only as safe as the people around you are willing to let you be. All it takes is one whack job and safety goes right out the window.
Weather guns are present or not.
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>>33400175
I think he's talking about Wick 2 ditching the classic/based HK for a taran tactical mallninja glock then the blatant kimber ad halfway through. Still a dope ass movie and accurate with the handling and loadouts just a lot more product placement.
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>>33397630
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>>33402745
>Safety is an illusion
No, it's not.
I can't make an argument against this.
You saying "reality is imaginary" is a pipe dream.
Pipe refers to opium pipe. Nobody in America smokes opium, they swallow it.
You're probably hopped up on pain pills right now you white trash.
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>>33397630
>also guns aren't masculine, they're just toys.

how many cats do you own
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>>33402311
>Keanu Reeves is extremely progun.

So is Johnny Depp.
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>>33402449
>not knowing constitutional amendments
I really hope you're not a burger because you would have failed Government class. And I'll have you know only people who hate niggers and women hate the 15th and 19th amendments

>It`s not like there`s expert consensus that Canada has more freedom
got summa dem dere citations for little old cletus?
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>>33402449
>>33402479
Nice double post and nice completely arbitrary metric of 'freedom'. Ontario Human Rights council deems anyone who doesn't use prefered pronouns is a bigot and subject to fine so there goes your 'free speech' and any concept of civil liberties belonging to civilians; assault words exist in those countries apparently, economics are independent of any realistic measure of personal freedom unless you count corporations as people, the average person as is the small business is under a larger tax burden so economically those places aren't any more free and that's notwisthanding redundant and pointless 'enviromental' measures that do nothing to hit the companies that actively pollute, just forces them to hire someone lawyers to figure out exactly where they can skimp.

So no, the other countries are not any more free, unless you are a corporate entity, which the Frasier Institute is mainly addressing with rankings like that
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>>33402986
not defending mr. "guns are toys" but Freud is a hack you shouldn't take seriously
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>>33397501
>can we define 'pussification' at least
Living in an advanced, industrial society. The further a society or even individual gets from a frontier life, day to day danger, spending substantial time outdoors in undeveloped landscapes, having to work to survive and eat and having to be self reliant the further these people or societies get on the pussification scale. Of course these things can make people fucking weird and not always in good ways, look at parts of Africa where they eat people and rape animals. But Generally there was a sweet spot that we've long since passed in the various western nations.
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>>33403024
Good times create weak men
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Come on /k/ why do you always take the bait?
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>>33402102
You're a moron too
>hurr let's ban something that's both extremely concealable and common for self defense
And how would you go about that? Gun bins? Baddies won't just give them up, and now all you've done, again, is strip the law abiding citizen of their self defense
And good luck finding any other way to do it
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>>33402855
>those tangents
Are you feeling okay? You legitimately sound like you're on SOME sorta drugs. Maybe alcohol?
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>>33397296
Isn't Sylvester Stallone, Rambo, anti-gun?
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>>33402004
>>that task is bad for society
killing niggers and criminals in self defense is bad for society?

or rather

using hot gasses to propel pieces of metal at high velocity along a specified directional vector is bad for society?
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>>33397630
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>>33402479
>You can't really have freedom without safety and security."

Precisely. A free man takes responsibility for his own safety and security. In time of need, he will also assist in assuring the safety and security of his society.
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>>33403225
White trash aren't a part of society
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>>33397296
a beretta 92 cost 100 more then a glock because it is worth it.
glocks are pieces of shit that only wanna be thugs that listen to to much gangsta rap buy
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>>33403214
>those legs
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>>33402102
>There's no practical reason to prohibit assault rifles the way California does.
Pissing off gun owner is practical enough reason.
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>>33402102
>On the other hand if you're gonna fight some phantasmagorical war with the government you're not going to win wielding a 9mm.

You're not going to win if you're carrying a full-house battle rifle, either. You win with propaganda and having a demonstrably better system than what you're fighting. That 9mm and battle rifle are simply there to keep you in the game until your propaganda and system start taking effect.
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>>33403247
>unironically carries a heavy full metal pistol that has no advantages over a Glock
I bet you also think the military should still carry 1911s. Kill yourself Fudd Mcgee
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It's sort of post-irony fitting in.

First of all majority of Hollywood is liberal and it's really obvious that no matter what, when casting every single person involved will have subconscious bias towards liberals. There is odd Mel Gibson here and there but just look at how has Gibson started his career - it was pure luck. He happened to get into fight right before going on casting for new B-movie back in Australia. That he was picked because "they needed freaks"(and he was beaten up hard to the point when when he showed for actual filming 2 weeks later they didn't recognise him at first and then decided that they have to give him different role) and the movie - Mad Max - ended up being enormous success despite small budget.

Secondly, there was that "ironic" attitude towards violence in "old" cinema. If you look at cinema after the silent age you'll see gangsters, vigilante sheriffs, bounty hunters etc. being the ultimate heroes of the world. Messiahs even. You are hero because you wield a gun! Many directors and actors tried to distance themselves from this in various way since at least 1960's, so you have Yul Brynner playing gunfighter talking about importance and heroism of leading everyday life, having family and being stable person, rather than killing for money, later jabs at glorification of violence in movies like Iron Cross(in fact for being incredibly violent Peckinpah - they called him Bloody Sam for a reason - was on the avantgarde of directors trying to "unglorify" violence), things like this.

Thirdly - in the past you've had to work a little bit harder to get to statistics, so it was also harder to make simple and digestible pro-gun propaganda. Nowadays you make poster and add links+QR code to statistics showing that guns = good, in let's say 1970's majority of people relied on what they've been told by journalists, and actors weren't exception(which is how Clint Eastwood for example, himself libertarian got to star in some anti-gun commercials)
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>>33402992
Hey, maybe the guy fucks his mom on his dad's corpse. He could be proof Freud was right
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>>33403234
neither are niggers
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>>33403334
(cont)and majority of the actors themselves aren't the brightest people around. They really aren't, believe me. So to expect them to be able to research crime statistics when asked to join anti-gun propaganda in times when it required you to go to library or buy a new fresh statistical yearbook, one that included crime statistics in-detail - man you're expecting too much from them.

Fourth - the ultimate fitting in. First thing was present since the dawn of Hollywood. Second became a tradition of sorts. Third still applies to large part of the population despite actual information being easier to reach. So to be tight fit in hollywood you have to be liberal who likes to take typical action roles ironically and listen and believe.
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>>33403391
listens and believes*
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>>33397296
Acting is usually a leftist, artsy profession anon, and most of them are liberals. The actors that like carrying guns and such are seen as weird and unpleasant, and you don't want to be ostracized no matter where or what group of people you belong to (anti gun rednecks, imagine the ostracization they'd get).

So the gun-liking actors have an agenda to hiding their preference and going anti-gun to fit in. Most of the top of the line directors and such are liberal antiguns and they don't want to hire some progun people on principle and you have to keep your head down over there I'd wager. Unless you're Samuel L Jackson or Bruce Willis, but they're big fish. Arnie is anti gun but he's the governor of california.

Maybe the actors, like most antifun people in the world, are uneducated about remote holeproducers, and that's why they fear them. Or they have a paid agenda to disarm the masses, dunno
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>>33402479
>Safety is a prerequisite to freedom
This is the dumbest shit I have ever heard. The man living by himself in the woods is the most free, yet he's nowhere near "safe".
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Reminder this board has been getting infested with leftists since Trump won.
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>>33397321
Fpwp
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>>33403668
>Le liberal boogeyman
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>>33403721
Upset you're called out? You make it way too obvious.

This is a right-wing board. Fuck off you cancerous shit.
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>>33403668
Most cancerous thing I've read all day.

Also, niggers.
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>>33403758
Go back to heftylol.
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>>33403765
I was talking about his image.

Guess I should have greentexted like a fag since these days you can't make it obvious enough.
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>>33397296
within the past 15 years id say, its at least become the norm. As is being ultra liberal, but thats to appeal to their target audience, teens and young adults aged 15-20s.
30-40 years ago it was mainly adults going to see movies, so you had more adult type actors and movies. John wayne, steve mcqueen, michael cane, those kinds of people. Now movies are more open to the public, primarily young children, and younger kids tend to be for things like liberal ideas, banning guns, and the like. thats why you see so much of it now, not to mention celebrities spewing their political opinions. You really think katy perry or meryl streep understand politics beyond a high school level? Or they can understand the plight of middle class? Fuck no, but they know its an easy win for their reputation and some do believe in it, but again
>millionaire in hollywood thinks they can speak for the middle to lower class

I work as a production assistant (for the time being) in LA. I see this shit all the time and can try to answer any question or tell stories cause im sick in bed right now and bored

also fun fact, Mcqeen was supposed to be killed by the manson family the night of the tate murders but was out fucking some hooker. He probably could have killed a few of them or went down fighting
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>>33403800
how do you keep your power level hidden?
absolutely no guntalk while working/
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>>33403214
Jesus Christ I thought it was a woman in the thumbnail.

>that lordosis
>them chicken legs
>wearing a baseball cap to the gym

I'm not even going to comment on the form.

Wow. Just, wow.
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>>33397630
This got so many replies because it hit hard with insecure betamales

A manly man wouldn't give a fuck about how others choose to live so long as it didn't infringe on his lifestyle
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>>33403800
>He thinks the Manson murders involved targeting people
You either don't work as a production assistant or are low porn grade teir
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>>33403898
Or the fucking SMITH CUNTING MACHINE

Jesus Christ.
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>>33403668
Every board has.
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>>33402940
>friends with Hunter S Thompson
The man is solid in my book
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>>33402986
>need
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>33403900
You must not live in a city. Try being /fit/ on the metro. There is always a land whale there to heckle you
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>>33403214
>quarter reps in the smith machine
I'm offended
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>>33403833
pretty much. Only a handful of people know im a gun guy (among other things) and even they dont know how bad it is

>>33403908
manson had targets, he was just sloppy as fuck about choosing them. Tex watson and the gang were just pawns, he claimed he wanted a race war (and probably did) but deep down he was mad at people in hollywood for turning him down and was targeting some of them by association. At least with the tates, maybe not so much the labiancas
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>>33397625
He's a product of his time
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>>33397296
>Why don't you use drainage pipes instead of real guns in your movies like they do in Uganda then.

I want to see an example of this
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>>33404071
No, it was related to the drug trade you fucking idiot and Manson was a womanizer, cult leader and all around price of shitting but at worst he was accessory to murder
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>>33404038
I take the metro in my city occasionally and people tend to keep to themselves
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>>33400061
Is this fact? I like that
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>>33403195
This
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>>33402004
>7 round mags are perfectly adequate for civil use.

Leaf detected. Opinions discarded.
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>>33403898
Baseball caps are fine but snapbacks? Those fags need to neck themselves
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>>33400510
Just wait for the measles epidemic in a few years which will kill at least 20% of all commiefornians
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>>33397296
Guns are less viable in urban centers where there is little room for ranges or hunting ground and police response time is much faster than out in the country. People who have guns find that they rarely get the chance to use them and either they (or their children who inherit them) end up selling off their firearms. Guns become something that only cops, the military, die-hard enthusiasts, and criminals have. They become an abstract cultural feature associated with death and violence. Their positive associations with citizenship, self-sufficiency, and sports for the common man decay. Is it really that shocking that people who don't use or own guns would take dim view of them when their only exposure was via the last mass shooting or murder?
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>>33402812
But Keanu owns part of Taran tactical. You really can't blame him for using one in the film.
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>>33402004
It's not the bill of NEEDs. The framers (even the Federalists) recognized the necessity of civilian gun ownership and the unorganized milita (all able bodied American citizens). For the protection of the Union from threats both foreign and domestic, it was necessary for the people to be armed as well as any opposition they may face, thus the second amendment seeks to preempt any attempts to disarm the citizen (yes even the NFA; FDR was a pinko shitbag who thought he knew better than the American people). More importantly the Bill of Rights is not what grants rights such as the 2A to you. Those rights are self-evident. The BOR guarantees that the federal government will make no laws abridging those rights.
Tl;dr for your dumb pinko hippy brain:
You don't need an AR15, but you don't need McDonalds, or a TV either. The government doesn't get to tell you that you can only have what you need because we don't live in a communist dictatorship. Fuck you and your authoritative ideology.
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>>33404113
some were related to drugs, and some were because he felt hollywood had smited him.
Read any book on it, if you need you hand held for it come back and we'll talk you through it
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>>33397296
1986, when Reagan passed amnesty for illegals and California went forever blue, and as a result of the blue platform, became anti-gun.
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>>33404687
>Read a couple books that spout the same second hand crap
The only book you need and that actually did research was Manson File. Tates fucking mother said it was all Watson.

All those victims were deep, deep in the drug scene in the 60s or worse involving CP like Polanski.
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>>33404827
>The only book you need is the on that proves my point alone
ok then
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>>33404838
I've read other ones, they cite news stories that cite 'sources' and sometimes they cite each other like an ouroboros of rumors and speculation from interviews of people who barely knew him or were invested in making sure he stayed buried.

He knew about the murders most likely, he most likely had a hand in trying to get the guys away but you have to be a special kind of stupid to think he was anything but a scapegoat. An easily demonized scapegoat because he was a really shitty person but one none the less
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>>33402986
while i agree with the sentiment, Freud is wikipedia-tier credibility for psychoanalysis at best
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>>33404886
so you ignore the sources you dont like becuase they go against your idea? Ii can just as easily say the same about yours

what point are you even trying to make? Manson had a history of trying to be famous. Claiming the beach boys ripped him off, one of Mcqeen's companies rejected a script manson had given them so he was believed to be targeted and later carried a gun with him (and made his wife carry a gun)
like I said im just a PA and have read up on some history of what happened and heard rumors of it from work. I dont doubt his idea of starting a race war were genuine, nor that his victims were involved in some sketchy stuff in 1960s hollywood, but he had a personal stake in some of the murders and that is a big reason as to why the were committed
everybody knows this
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>>33402004
>This is a fact.
lol but it's not
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>>33402855
>>33402479
>>33402449

>t. Canadian pre teen on his parent's laptop
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>>33397296
bump
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>>33403214
Is this an FTM?
>>
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Hollywood is weirdly obsessed with violence.
It's extremely difficult to find television that
doesn't focus around fighting and people
getting killed.
It's no secret a lot of hollywood has drug
addictions. So a lot of their films focus
around drugs, gangs, and thieves. Naturally
it also tends to involve a lot of violence.
I tried to avoid watching violent media for
a year or two, there was nearly nothing at all
to watch.
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>>33403908
>>33404113
yeah? You fucking dumb ass. Of course he targeted specific people, he meant to target melcher but polanski and tate had moved into his house by then and he figured "fuck it, these will do" a full month before the murders

Manson has always wanted to be famous, when he was cock blocked by hollywood he took it personally and aside from his other motivations he wanted to get back at anyone in the industry. He made a cult were he was worshiped because he craved attention. The people he killed were to get back at Hollywood and start a race war. Tex, patricia, linda and susan were just used by him for it
>it was related to the drug trade
yeah no shit, people in LA did drugs in the 1960s. That doesnt mean it had fuck all to do with it
>tates mother said
she wasnt there, if anything her father did more with his military connections and even then that didnt do much. The fuck does her mother's opinion on anything have to do with the matter?

id suggest you read more then just the one book, friend
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>>33405335
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>>33405184
None of the circumstances after make any sense as to where the fuck all those people got the money to will to thier next of kin. They were drug dealers and they were killed for drugs, not some scheme that was half baked by the actual murderers to make them seem like they were just brainwashed followers.
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>>33397296
Because guns kill children
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>>33405517
any sources as to why the where killed for drugs?
didnt think so

now the wonder land murders was a drug hit gone wrong
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>>33405620
The Labiancas were drowning in debt, Lenard was passing away what little money he skimmed from his company after selling his second house and somehow they were able to leave 200,000 in 1960 bucks to thier heirs?
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>>33405645
so they had the manson family kill them?
are you fucking kidding me
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>>33405517
they had some money in their savings? Just because youre in debt doesnt mean you drain your safety net. People struggle with money from time to time, they were probably planning on working out how to make it back
>well, it looks like we're in a financial pickle
>fuck it all, lets hire some hippies to kill us so our life insurance kicks in

Ive heard some wacky theories as to what really happened with the Manson murders, and im a fan of the one where polanski was involved in some CP and killed his wife, but yours is just dumb
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>>33404139
Well yeah, the Warsaw Uprising was fought with guns and one of Hitler's moves in the 30s was to take guns from Jews.
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>>33405846
>Polanski wasn't involved in CP
Not him but he definitely was given he is still on the run for being balls deep in a 13 year old.
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>>33405961
I said he was
the theory is tate found his stash and he had her whacked to cover it up, along with some other wealthy and or famous people
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>>33400061
>>33404139
its true, we have some old jewish guys at my range, like 2nd gen after the holocaust. they love guns and were raised to by their parents

they are also hard working class types, dont really follow their religion.
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>>33404827
you need to read helter skelter m8
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>>33397501
Basically when it's acceptable for a man to cry.
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>>33406099
Oh, I thought you were denying that part. It creeps me the hell out people defend the bastard.
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>>33402004
Simple as this, I'm not a murderer, and most gun owners aren't murderers, so we should not be punished for things murderers are doing.
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>>33402004
>when people forget we had an assault weapon ban for 10 years that didn't do shit
>tfw when the Columbine tards literally used a tec-9 (one of the guns that was specifically targeted by the ban)
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>>33402102
>CC holders have 1/7 chance committing the same crimes someone without a permit has
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>>33403900
Take your special snowflake ass outta here, son. This here's mans turf and aint no need for your namby pamby nibble dribble.
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>>33402694
>for me not for thee?
>wait a minute..
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>>33403214
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>>33405531
It's usually the bullets desu senpai
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>>33397630
>also guns aren't masculine, they're just toys
noguns pls go
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>>33404038
>Try being /fit/ on the metro. There is always a land whale there to heckle you
You get shit for being a bit big? What the shit
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>>33402881
Not him, but fuck you.

You can own cats and guns.

I have a cat, singular, and two and a half "firearms."
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>>33402004
>"This is a fact"

An alternative fact maybe.
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>>33402836
>"upper body strength in men is positively correlated with right wing political views"

Correlation =/= Causation, fucking 9th grade statistics classes teach you this.
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