.22LR now easily found for $.06/rd and prices are still plum

>>33373862
Why are you shilling ammo then? It's the cold season. Probably be that way for another 4 years or so.

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>>33373862

http://www.armslist.com/posts/3950870/california-ammo-for-sale--22lr-ammunition
>will ship! prices are twice what all retailers currently charge, plus shipping costs!

http://www.armslist.com/posts/3722076/california-ammo-for-sale--22lr-bricks
>get your bricks! bricks for sale, $55!

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6608447/murfreesboro-tennessee-ammo-for-sale--5k-rounds-of-22lr-
>plz trade my ar lowers plus cash for my 5k rounds of overpriced shit dirt tier bargain .22lr

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6574339/sacramento-california-ammo-for-sale---22-lr-remington-tunderbolts
>NO SHIPPING, only $40 for $29.99 bricks

http://www.armslist.com/posts/5417512/milwaukee-wisconsin-ammo-for-sale-trade---6-175-rounds-22lr-federal-automatch
>6,175 of shit federal automatch.
>O P E N T O T R A D E S
>DESSICANT PACKS INCLUDED

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>>33373891
i am just fucking laughing my ass off and happy as fuck that prices are going to be steadily dropping for the foreseeable future. we have entered a period of greatness and prosperity!!

>M A G A
>A
>G
>A

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>SEVERAL BOXES
>PRICE IS FIRM

http://www.armslist.com/posts/5794846/orlando-florida-ammo-for-sale--325-round-bricks-of-federal-auto-match--22lr

It's the magic of Trump

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>>33374765

>You will never see 1 cent/rd .22LR again

>>33375665
>still remembers 2 cent/rd 22lr

its going down to at least 4cpr

>tfw starting a business
>making accounts with distributors
>they keep trying to get me to buy a bunch of ammo

I fucking know better. People bought too much up thinking Hildawg was going to win and now they got fucked by Colossal Cock Trump.

today was a good day to buy a savage mkii bv

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>>33374765
>took photo of gun packed away
>battery at 3%, have to charge before taking unpacked pick
welp. bought the gun and 300 rounds of .22LR for the retail value of the gun

>>33373862
Why would somebody try to resell 22 LR ammo? Why not just use it for target practice?

>>33375833
ammo is a terrible buy right now as a business. prices will continue to drop for a bit, i would wait a while longer, unless they are offering you great deals which will let you price out other competitors. hell even sgammo has a section on their site now called "clearance at a loss"

http://www.sgammo.com/clearance-sale-ammo-under-cost

>>33376075
its been scarce on most US shelves since sandyhook. supply and demand, there wasnt enough supply for demand so prices went up. people willing to pay a premium for 22lr drives other guys to sell for a premium.

>>33373922
Federal automatch is one of if not the best bulk ammo out there.

>>33376075
where have you been the last 5 years?

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>>33376139
say what now

federal isnt even plated, its powder is dirty as fuck, it doesnt shoot that great out of my 22s and it makes them fucking leaded up and dirty as shit in no time

>>33376097
>http://www.sgammo.com/clearance-sale-ammo-under-cost
oh wow... I used to like SGammo... Those prices are still bad at a "loss" though....

>>33376193
really? where can you get brass 45acp for less than 28 cpr? $205 for a case of steel case russian 223? pretty good prices to me

>>33376175
fucking fuck I used to buy these for $10 at walmart every week...

>>33376218
My local Fred's used to have the Federal gold 500 brick for $5

>>33376218
i remember those days. $9.99 and just buy a box when you needed it, no pressure or panic, 22lr for days on the shelves

>>33376218
>>33376300

I bought 525 bricks at Big 5 for $14.99.

God Damn do I miss those days.

>>33373862
Why would anyone need to buy .22 if Trump is never going to ban guns?

>>33373862
whats a good "tactical 22"

>>33376393
>Why would anyone need to buy .22 if Trump is never going to ban guns?
I know it seems like Trump has been President forever, but it really has only been two months. If Hellary had won, we'd be getting ready to become Britain, where you need a license and a psych evaluation to buy a spork. The bad news is that I missed the cheap milsurp boom. The good news is that the days of cheap, readily available .22lr are back again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h_GChgSv_A

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>be poor as fuck
>buy an AR and a Glock for HD
>start spending too much money on ammo for range trips
>want something to just shoot for fun and extend my range trips so I'm not wasting 9mm and 5.56
>buy Savage Mark II and 800 rounds of .22LR
>tfw I can just sit there and plink away for hours of fun on a budget


feels good man. I might have missed the milsurp bubble but I still picked a great time to be a gun owner.

>>33376413
>whats a good "tactical 22"

.223

Anyhow, AutoMatch is fine for punching holes in paper, but CCI seems to be the "Sunday best" of .22lr

>>33374765
>lower prices
>at the cost of workers laid off
yeah great job trumpf!

>>33373862
hoarders are getting fucked in the ass as they should be

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>>33376454
>feels good man. I might have missed the milsurp bubble but I still picked a great time to be a gun owner.
I got the best of both by picking up a WZ-48, the Polish milsurp training rifle that they patterned after the Mosin. Bud's still has them for $200 if you're interested.

>>33376467
Don't worry, there will be plenty of new jobs for them once we throw all the beaners out.

>>33375787
I remember that too, but that was 10 years ago so I'm ok with it being 4cpr. At least gas is only around 2 bucks a gallon.

22LR could be found for 6 ish cents for bulk for a very big while now, like, almost a year and a half probably.

Immediate prescare prices was like 3-4 cpr for bulk and even that's not considered cheap. it's going to take a while to get down to that again, if ever.

>>33376472
fun fact, the action was actually first used in a mauser trainer. The WZ31 is significantly more expensive than the WZ48.

>>33373862
.22 is 5 cpr at Walmart here in NY. Meanwhile the LGS has it for ~10 cpr lmao

>>33376210
Some of those deals are good, but others still seem bad at a loss.

.30 Carbine seems like a good deal, most places I see it have it at like 60cpr.

Vista Outdoors insider here. The shortage was never due to hoarders or scalpers. Vista was warehousing 70-80% of the .22lr they made for the last 5 years or so. If it's back on the shelves, it just means they decided to stop stockpiling their own ammo. Looking back, the most likely reason I can see for the stockpiling in the first place is they needed a couple billion dollars for leverage or some business bullshit during the split from ATK Orbital. Also, they still have the warehouses full of .22lr.

2 million rds per day x 5 years x 70% is roughly 2.5 billion rounds stashed away. $0.05 per is a chunk of change to be sure.

>>33376449

Such bullshit.

Obama was prez for eight fucking years ans you can still by shit.

Grow up..

>>33376541
>fun fact, the action was actually first used in a mauser trainer. The WZ31 is significantly more expensive than the WZ48.
Yeah, it's basically a Mauser with a Mosin stock, and even has a Mauser-type safety. That means the bolt is nice and smooth tho.

>>33376629
>Such bullshit.
>Obama was prez for eight fucking years ans you can still by shit.
>Grow up..
This entire thread was about the rising price and increasing scarcity of .22lr suddenly reversing itself as soon as a vocally pro-2A president got elected. I don't know what Shillblue is paying you, but for your off-topic and misspelled post, they should demand a refund.

>>33376650
To be fair I can't really think of anything Obama did to cause the price of .22 to stay so high during his two terms, I remember the panic buying when he was elected, but the price never seemed to go down.

>>33376650
It started showing back up before the primaries had ended. If Hillary had won, the shelves would have the same number of boxes they do today. Yes, she would have taken action to end that, but not so soon. The lessening scarcity of .22 is not linked to the election.

>>33375787
>its going down to at least 4cpr
Is there much of it being manufactured in America?

I seem to recall this all starting because a major manufacturer of it went bust or something, then having to get supply from overseas. Here in Australia our manufacturers were exporting to America like crazy but they didn't have nearly the capacity relative to the demand.

>>33376650
>suddenly reversing itself as soon as a vocally pro-2A president got elected.
I may be Australian, but even I know that's complete bullshit. Americans on /k/ have been reporting that .22lr has been slowly dropping for at least a year.

You know, back when it was expected Hilldawg would win.

>.22 LR Ammo for 5.36 Cents Per Round
>July 9th, 2016
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2016/07/prices-drop-as-supplies-of-22-lr-ammo-increase/

>>33376563
>2.5 billion rounds
A pittance, domestic production was 108 billion rounds in 2015. 130 million households have a .22, if each household wants to buy 1000 rounds per year, that is standing demand of 130 billion rounds. Difference between domestic production and standing demand is fulfilled by imports.

Increased gun sales to first time buyers starting in 2008 would have created a shortage organically, but the shortage persisted into late 2015 because of scalpers. Even now, retailers struggle to remain fully stocked when priced competitively, but at least there is generally some available.

>>33376629
no for lack of trying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_Weapons_Ban_of_2013

>>33376661
The proposed M855 ban caused a lot of recreational shooters to buy .22's they never would have otherwise (either switching directly from .223 or to another caliber causing its scarcity and causing those guys to swap to .22), and caused a general ammo panic where people were buying in quantity because it was unlikely they could just waltz into walmart and plop down money for a bulk pack an hour before a range session.

Guess what? Those people still have those rifles and pistols. Demand, if anything, is still increasing (although much more slowly). Couple this with the EPA under Obama's indirect influence shutting down the last domestic lead mine, and the Democratic Party forcing through the lead ammunition ban in California, and prices rose.

.22lr was always available. IF you were willing to pay outrageous amounts of money for it. There for a while it was actually cheaper for me to shoot my .17hmr or steel-cased .223 than it was .22lr because the only people that had it wanted a quarter a round for it. But it was available.

>>33376661

Environmental regulations against the lead industry, for one.

>>33376701
That's complee bullshit spread by idiots.
One smelter shut down over several decades of non compliance did not even cause ablip in supply or price.
Almost all lead in bullets is recycled anyways.

>>33376661
>proposed M855 ban
>cessation of all arms and ammo importation from Russia or Russian-held companies
>cessation of all arms and ammo importation from Mexico
>increased import tariffs from most other ammo-producing countries
>directed the EPA to "crack down" on lead pollution, indirectly leading to the closure of the last domestic lead mine
>proposed and backed AWB2013
>proposed a national ammo tax per round
>proposed a national firearms registry
>proposed draconian yearly ammunition purchase quantities
>proposed outlaw of all non-governmental interstate transfers of smokeless powder without a license and for all reloaders to require an appropriate FFL for ammunition production (IE if it wasn't made in your state you could not buy it)
>supported I-594, which passed
>supported and funded NY SAFE Act, which passed

>>33376699
The M855 ban scare wasn't until 2015, the lead mine didn't close until 2013, and who cares about Commiefornia.

>>33376692
Yeah the numbers are kind of small to have made a difference like we saw. I only know about their Lewiston plant, I think they have another one too. I think it's Winchester that's not a Vista brand, they just do all the CCI/Speer and Federal stuff.
I know for a fact they were warehousing the majority of their product for years during the shortage, and most of what they didn't warehouse went overseas. How much that contributed to the shortage, who knows.

>>33376458
I keep a 22/45 with CCI Velocitor loaded up. Hits like a 22 freight train. Best stuff around.

>>33376736
It was initially announced in mid-2014 as probable that they'd push it, with the open referendum starting in January 2015. It was done and over with by the end of March 2015.

They also tried it in 2009 with basically zero support and it died quietly.

Yeah, it wasn't the sole cause of the shortage but it definitely prolonged it.

>>33376669
>It started showing back up before the primaries had ended. If Hillary had won, the shelves would have the same number of boxes they do today. Yes, she would have taken action to end that, but not so soon. The lessening scarcity of .22 is not linked to the election.
What would those boxes cost if Hillary had won? How long would they have lasted on the shelves? I'm sure you can answer those, since you seem to have a window into alternate history.
>>33376688
>I may be Australian, but even I know that's complete bullshit. Americans on /k/ have been reporting that .22lr has been slowly dropping for at least a year.
>You know, back when it was expected Hilldawg would win.
Yes, they were slowly dropping. And then, after the election, they dropped quickly and dramatically.

It's almost as if manufacturers reacted to a price increase caused by political concerns that they expected to continue indefinitely by increasing production capacity, and then, when shifting political winds caused reduced panic buying, saw a sudden and dramatic crash in prices as the market reacted to what was now an oversupply.

>>33376797
>And then, after the election, they dropped quickly and dramatically.
So, the price had already reached six cents, but then it dropped quickly and dramatically to... six cents?

It's almost as if you're full of shit.

>>33376797
I guess you're right, JimBob would have definitely bought as many as he could on November 8th.

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>>33376097
>tfw .308 is still expensive

>>33376413
Ruger 10/22. That's the only answer

I have a single shot Savage .22

What else should I get? Not really looking for a semi auto, maybe a nice bolt gun I can put a scope on. Threaded barrel would be a plus.

Any unique .22lr handguns out there?

>>33376111
Why .22 LR of all ammo though? I never understood why it was .22 that got bought up. It's a small round for tiny game and plinking. Why did no one fear 5.56 being bought up?

>>33373862
>http://www.armslist.com/posts/3722076/california-ammo-for-sale--22lr-bricks

fukken /k/ man! I told you about fukken /k/! can't ever be happy with anything. Why not just stock up on HQ ammo, something like 20krds, and be happy you ahve it now that it's available? less bitching, more dakka pls.

>>33376902
with a 22lr bolt in an AR, you have a capable gun. you cna alos carry 3.5 22lr rds for every 223 round. I would fight pistoleros with a 22lr AR ny time of the day.

>>33376808
>So, the price had already reached six cents, but then it dropped quickly and dramatically to... six cents?
So OP has it wrong and the price of .22lr hasn't dropped at all in the five months since the election?

>>33376990
>So OP has it wrong and the price of .22lr hasn't dropped at all in the five months since the election?
OP never said that. Stop putting words in OP's mouth.

>>33376472
>mfw mini-mosin

if only they weren't single shot

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>>33377036
It's bigger and a little heavier than the carbines actually.

>>33376990
im OP, you are replying to someone else. before the election though, 22lr was already starting to come down in price, presumably because manufacturing capacity was catching up, it was about $.12/rd the start of 2016, then $.10 cents a round in the few months before the election, i first noticed the $.08/rd 22lr on black friday sales in november, then in christmas it became a 'normal price'. now we are at $.06/rd and i am stoked to start shooting 22 liek crazy

>>33373938
You have 4 years to stock up, even better if we had a guarantee for the next 8 years of MAGA.

>>33376902
fudd logic

>>33376470
its not so much the hoarders i care about, as the people trying to buy out everything just to resell

>>33376661
retard

>>33373862
This is just the beginning, the whole speculative bubble created by these hoarding fudds is about to pop.

>>33376692
>130m households have a .22

Uhhh...that is literally every single household in the country.

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>>33376767
22plinkster pls go

>>33376359
>525 bricks
>262,500 rounds
have you even made a dent yet

Good. They fucked the market and now the market is fucking them back.

>>33376413
>MP15-22
Owned one and a 10/22 and I got rid of my 10/22 because this was all around better.
If you want an AR style built that you can do AR things to. Some AR mods won't work with it but most should. Has full rail set and good iron sights.

>Ruger 10/22
Not as good as the MP15-22 but has a shit-ton of aftermarket parts and mods. Cheap choice too.

>AR-7
The henry one is okay... but if you can score a different AR7 I'd say that'd be the better choice.

>>33376854
It's because the market treats it more like a hunting round rather than a 'range and tacticool' round like 5.56 & .223 that people want to piss away.

I love my Savage Mk II and Marlin 60.

Would like to pick up a Ruger Mk IV at some point

thoughts on integrally suppressed Ruger 10/22 and Mk III?

>>33380772
awesome and god tier plinking fun, wish i didnt live in cuckfornia so i could get one

>>33380780
I'd love to get an integrally suppressed 10/22, maybe if HPA happens...

It looks like the barrel is ported too so it bleeds enough gas to make even supersonic rounds go subsonic

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>>33373862
My Gander Mountain has had 4 cpr boxes for ever since they opened the new one.

>>33376731
>>proposed and backed AWB2013
and 14, and 15. Every senate since it sunset in '04 has probably tried to pass a new one.

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>>33381028

>sideways muzzle brake
>on a .22

>>33373965
that guys can lick the inside of my dogs's ass-whole for 13 and a half

>>33376854
.308 is only pricey if you're buying the good stuff. 31 CPR for tula isn't bad at all when you consider like 50+ CPR for non-remanufactured and non surplus.

>>33381088
Nope. It's an A1 brake, because I didn't want to dick around with timing an A2.

The rifle came with a plastic thread protector, and muzzle nuts are literally the same price as a surplus A1 brake.

>>33381028
Holy shit I saw one of these at a gunshow yesterday. Whats it called? It's single shot right?

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its a good time to be into a 22, fuck you resellers

>>33376481
Illegal beaners*