>fell for the HK meme God dammit how am I supposed to feel

>>33351515
>hk
>meme

try to post a real failure to eject next time

>>33351575
This was like the 4th one out of this mag alone

>Break it in and clean and oil

Already have about 150-200 rounds through it.

What is a fte acceptable if it can be fixed by a slide rack to you? I had some double feeds alongside stovepipes in the other mag

you're probably limp-wristing it you idiot

what ammo?

>>33351515
Buy one in the round it's designed for next time.

>>33351619
Independence 115gr but I've had issue with blazer brass and UMC as well, though I didn't shoot enough of the UMC to say for certain.

>Limp wrist meme

I'm not but even if it was that and you needed absolute perfect wrist to shoot it I wouldn't trust it for carry. No gun should be that finnicky.

>>33351641
>Independence 115gr but I've had issue with blazer brass and UMC as well

Oh wow 3 dogshit ammos
Shoot some carry ammo and report back, faggot

>>33351515
Was this gun new and unfired?
Did you oil the slide rail?
What caliber and what ammo were you using?
HK factory mags or pro-mags?

You can either help us help you or be a whiny faggot and post memes.

>>33351658
Not OP but every single fucking gun I've owned has run 'dogshit' steel cased, 115 mousefart rounds with no problem. Fuck even my friends highpoint runs it. Theres no excuse in this time and age for a firearm to be finicky about ammo outside of long range rifle shooting

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>>33351515
The Classic Arms LEMs?

Mine's still NIB - haven't taken it out, what rounds were you shooting?

Managed to stovepipe my P30L LEMs exactly once in 7k rounds so far and it was early on my 2nd.

>>33351680
150 rounds isn't a break in period, faggot
you're running dogshit ammo in a gun that is very heavy so that it will cycle +p+ ammo

Get better ammo or shoot more, poorfag

>>33351641
HK 9mms, particularly the USP and USPc prefer hot ammo, especially when new, you can speed up the process by leaving the slide locked back for a few days and in the mean time shoot 124 or 147 grain ammo, shoot NATO spec if you can find it.

>>33351658
If it can only run carry ammo reliably why would I trust it? I have been shooting this "dogshit" ammo for years in my cz faggot.

I have got 50 rounds of critical duty I plan on trying in it but even if it ran 100 rounds of CD reliably I'd have a tough time with what I'm seeing from it now.

>>33351662
Bought new. I have put around 200 rounds through it. Cleaned factory grease off and oiled with hoppes on slide rails and contact parts

9mm using all HK mags two that came with the gun and one bought at the lgs I transfered through.

>>33351605
150-200 rounds and you are worried you got a single stovepipe with ball target ammo? chillax, are you the same guy who flipped his shit when he noticed LEM hammers right slightly to the left?

2k rounds is a good testing window for your carry gun

>>33351696
NATO spec just means +p

>>33351700
>If it can only run carry ammo reliably why would I trust it?

Because why are you carrying anything but carry ammo

>>33351700
200 rounds is literally nothing

>>33351683
>>33351701

Samefag

Also very possible user error - IE: Riding the slide with your thumbs, took me a bit to get my thumbs in the right spot.

>>33351683
Independence and blazer brass mainly and yeah it's the classic firearms lem.

>>33351696
Yeah I heard that and figured after 200 rounds it would be fine now, the first mag I shot through the gun every round stovepipes.

>>33351701
>Single

I got 4 or 5 in one mag

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>>33351515
LEM .40 USPC carry gun master race.

>>33351730
>the first mag I shot through the gun every round stovepipes.

You weren't holding it nearly tightly enough

This is definitely the guy who was worried his roll pins were bad, his hammer was bad and his test target from the factory was bad. Noobguns with autism who got lucky to grab a USP9c for 550

>>33351712
Because it doesn't speak good for a gun if it's picky as fuck and won't eat ammo

>>33351706
It's more like +p+, it's pretty hot.

>>33351700
I hope you mean some kind of hoppes oil, as #9 is NOT a lubricant.
If it's new it may just have a stiff recoil spring combined with the heavy slide use hotter ammo for now.

>>33351515
Should have got a revolver.

>>33351740
Hardees > McCocks

>>33351746
who gives a fuck if it cycles with carry ammo

>>33351692
Break in periods are just the companies having the customer do the final fit and polish, on the customers dime. Its fucking stupid and unacceptable. If your gun needs a break in to become reliable its either a bad design, a jewish company, or both.

>>33351740
>buying McCucks after their twitter tantrum
>buying McSucks before their twitter tantrum
bruh

>>33351748
>It's more like +p+, it's pretty hot.

no it's not
Nato spec by definition falls in +P category

>>33351641
>Limpwristing
>meme

The thread should have ended right there.

>>33351759
>Break in periods are just the companies having the customer do the final fit and polish, on the customers dime. Its fucking stupid and unacceptable. If your boots needs a break in to become comfortable its either a bad design, a jewish company, or both.

Yeah fuck off child

>>33351730
Keep shooting it noobguns, my new P30L LEM stovepipes RNP Interceptor Polycase every shot, my slightly broken in (5k rounds) P30L LEM eats it 95% of the time. Ammo quality and energy is a thing, particularly right out of the box.

Want to never see a stovepipe again? buy a case on NATO spec ammo, after you've shot through that run anything else and you won't have another hiccup. Ok well maybe not never, if you run the RNP it is super light....

>>33351770
not
an
argument

>>33351780
Break in periods have been on products for 200 years

It absolutely is an argument

>>33351730
Watch your thumbs, USPs have slab slides, if you are coming off of a striker gun they could be interfering.

Your HK is not broken, it's you

The gun was built around the .40 cartridge. Maybe the 9mm is a bit underpowered for it.

I had the 9 too but I sold it too my tattoo artist before I even fired it. The .40 has seen 200+ rounds, no problemo.

>>33351741
I'm not the best shot but I'm not a retard. I've never had that problem with any firearm before.

>>33351759
I tend to agree with this honestly but maybe since the HK is apparently meant to be used with hotter ammo it's more acceptable.

>own glocks
>shoot shitty 115gr remanufactured 9mm
>ejection is terrible but it never ever ever fucking jams
>limp wrist intentionally, still no jams

>>33351776
I have continued to shoot it. My 200 round was just a low guesstimate I've probably shot far more than that.

It is absolutely not acceptable in my mind to put 5k rounds through a gun to "break it in".

I'm sure hotter ammo would fair much better, probably alleviate my issues, but it is concerning if a gun cannot function with lots of ammo, especially the light stuff which other guns handle fine.

>>33351825
That's what I'm saying if a gun can be induced to limp wrist malfunction by slightly imperfect shooting form that's not very trustworthy.

>>33351796
There is no reason that the gun could not be made to run reliably from the factory. They are outsourcing that job to you and expecting you to put money, and probably more importantly, time, into making it correct. If its just a money issue I would rather pay another 50 bucks or whatever and have the gun run like a top out of the box.

>>33351840
>There is no reason that the gun could not be made to run reliably from the factory

Yeah, they could shoot 1000 rounds through it and waste firearm life so you could be a little bitch

>>33351696
>you can speed up the process by leaving the slide locked back for a few days

Why would this help? Spring compression is fuddlore.

>>33351796
appeal to tradition is also not an argument.
"break in periods" are a cost saving measure.
you won't find a break in for Larm or Fanzoj

>>33351837
You should have disregarded that guy's opinion the very moment he described 5k rounds as "slightly broken in." This is what HKucks actually believe.

Either sell your USP or mark 115gr of any kind off your list of ammo you can buy. USPs are ULTRA SUPER RELIABLE but only if you use the right ammo, evidently. Glocks are reliable with anything you put in them. Fuck a break in period.

>>33351848
New springs do take a set but it won't get worse after taking that initial set without going through compression cycles.

>>33351851

"break in periods" are to wear the burs and slight imperfections in the milled pieces of a weapon down so that parts flow cleanly across one another. Yes, it is a cost saving measure, but the end user gets a greater life out of these parts. If you don't like this aspect of new firearms, buy used.

>>33351866

>glock meme

If only glocks had the personality and fun factor that HK firearms do

>>33351848
Lock the slides back on all your pistols and leave them like that for months. Every single one of them will be loose as fuck and the springs will be trash. Has happened before when an armorer left a bunch of M9s with the slides locked back.

>>33351866
>You should have disregarded that guy's opinion the very moment he described 5k rounds as "slightly broken in."

This is what poorfag non shooters actually believe.

HKs last ~100,000 rounds, 5,000 is basically still NIB

>>33351866
I'll probably keep it because of the price I paid for it and the fact that I hate selling guns and just run better stuff through it unless I'm just having fun. Might replace it for carry though, just kind of sucks because I already bought two holsters and a mag carrier.

If I wasn't so damn used to external hammers I'd probably had gone for a Glock.

>>33351889
>HK meme
If only HKs had the reliability that their price tag suggests
>$750+ gun
>ammo picky

>>33351658
You're a dumb motherfucker. Those ammo brands have good enough quality control to function perfectly in most pistols. Especially OPs pistol, which isn't some custom match pistol that would require custom match loads. Die in a fucking fire shithead

>>33351899
I'll make sure to let everyone know from now on that HKs are no good unless you put at least 5000 rounds through it first to break it in.

Meanwhile a Glock is a deadass reliable right out of the box.

You remind me of the FNS crybaby, same flavor of autism.

>>33351904
Except they do have that reliability, my USP 45 runs great, op just bought a double whammy of the shit model by getting the compact USP (strike 1) and in 9mm (strike 2).

>>33351904

>live in NY
>move to midwest
>want to be has guns
>buy USP .45 because muh video games and shit
>cheap out on ammo
>tula .45acp, top kek
>take it to range
>never have an issue shooting it even with my lack of experience and shit ammo

It's almost as if OP is a faggot or something

>>33351899
>All of the HK apologists itt

Jesus Christ are HK fans all autistic corporate bootlickers?

>>33351900
Seriously, check your thumbs, you might be interfering with the slab slide.

Beyond that just run some NATO spec or hot ammo through it and everything will be ok.

I have owned ~30 NIB quality brand pistols and had ammo related issues with about 30% of those out the box if I used soft cheap target stuff, this is not new, you are not unique to experience this, it will pass and your confidence will return.

>>33351932
This just in: HKs are reliable BUT ONLY IF YOU BUY THE RIGHT ONES!!!
>some HKs are ammo picky but if you pick the right model it will be sooper reliable!
Really comforting when you're spending $750+ on a pistol.

>>33351890
That's interesting. Given that these are M9s, are you sure the springs weren't already worn out before this? Either way, if what you're saying is correct, it makes me wonder why a recoil spring can suffer damage by being kept under tension but a magazine spring will not.

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>>33351937
>one gun has problems with some anonymous faggot on /k/
>whole brand is shit and anyone who likes them is a shill.

>>33351938
I'll be sure to make sure. I get my left hand very far up with thumbs forward grip.

>>33351969
No you dumbass I'm talking about the people implying 5k round break ins and making excuses for the problems instead of acknowledging issue you dumb bootlicker.

>>33351515
I took a [relative to HK] cheapshit VP9 out of the case, wiped off the excess oil and proceeded to chew through 1200 rounds of federal ball over the next few weeks without a single hiccup. Not even a common ejection or feeding issue. I had to get through 2600 rounds before I encountered my first common stoppage and have only had a handful through another 2000 rounds since.

I had a beat to shit USP40 many moons ago and it was the same story with range ball .40sw.

You either suck, have bad luck or someone fucked that gun up good before it got to you.

>>33351935
Yeah I'm a faggot for having a gun that doesn't work perfectly like yours.

Fucking retard.

>>33351991
How would sucking make a gun malfunction?

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>>33351938
>>33351971

Also - the answer's are here in the back of the manual that came with your LEM USP9c: three things could be wrong bad ejector/extractor (unlikely)

Soft ammo

User error (not described on this page but in the manual)

>>33351619
This, I think OP is a limp wrist faggot

>>33351619
I thought this was a glock exclusive meme

>>33351969
Why does every fucking retard take every opinion and statement several steps beyond what the person actually said? Do you think this supports your argument? I know this isn't new, but its been happening a lot this past year or so

>>33351935
Probably bought a used gun with the recoil spring already worn down a bit, and you sound like you've put 300 rounds total through your pistol, max.

>>33351953
It applies to all springs. This doesn't mean you can't leave magazines stored loaded indefinitely. But the whole idea that springs don't weaken from compression is an internet meme that has no basis in science.

Pistol recoil springs are a lot stiffer than mag springs. And they have to stay like that if you want them to properly decelerate the slide.

Take two brand new pistol mags and load them both fully. Now empty one and leave the other one loaded for months. Check the spring strengths after a few months have gone by and one will be noticeably stronger than the other. I have empirically observed this many times.

>>33351999
Ignore them blaming you, it's not like you wanted the gun to shit the bed.
Read up on the 9mm USP and you'll see the issues you're having can happen.
I'd get some hotter ammo and check it out with that.
If you still have problems call HK USA and see about sending it in.

>>33351985

I never said 5k was a break in you tard, I said it constituted slightly used. Learn to read.

>>33352030

>Probably bought a used gun with the recoil spring already worn down a bit, and you sound like you've put 300 rounds total through your pistol, max.

It was new, but the 300rds is fairly accurate :^)

>>33351515

Mine doesn't do that, and most people say their's doesn't. Send it to HK with an angry letter man, stop stressing about it.

>>33352036
>>33352060
I have heard hk may refuse to service this gun since it's "gray market" and imported third party. Is there any truth to that?

>>33352048
No, you literally said 5k rounds was slightly broken in.

So what's the minimum round count on an HK before it's properly broken in? 10k?

>>33351641
Are you saying it has... tight tolerances?

>>33352085

full length guide rod?

>>33352085
Yeah it's not a soldiers gun clearly.

>>33352083
Fuck ok bad on me, I fucked that up.

I meant used like it's just getting settled.

Honestly with hot ammo I don't think any HK models have a "break in" but if you want to talk 115 ball target I'd say putting 500 - 2,000 rounds is an acceptable window to get it to feed the soft stuff.

Sorry I fucked up

>>33352085
but will it bump fire?

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>>33351825

>>33351762

Aww, what's the matter snowflake? Triggered that someone insulted your God Emperor?

>>33351825

If my HK ever fails at least it won't explode in my hands. :^)

What does the lip of the extractor look like?

>>33352282
Not home at the moment I'll check it in a sec

>>33351837
Then shut the fuck up and sell it....get something else and try that. If your positive you aren't doing anything wrong then fine get rid of it , problem solved

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>>33351515
UNRELIABLE?

>>33352719


Getting rid of it would involve binning money I spent on holsters and a mag I'm trying to avoid that.

>>33352754

>buying extras for a gun that you're not sure you are comfortable with and enjoy

wew

>>33352754

It's your thumbs or you need a few 100 more rounds through it, remember it's LEM - the slide pre-cocks the hammer spring, I'm the guy who's been saying "thumbs" or "soft ammo" over and over.

It's this, no way your extractor spring is DOA out of the box and as long as the ejector and extractor claw don't look mangled then we have this dialed in, make sense?

>>33352815
Yeah I shouldn't have but I can't turn back the clock.

I figured, hey it's an HK it'll be great.

I bought the holsters on sale so that was the main reason I didn't wait.

>>33352821
I'm thinking it's "soft ammo" but I still feel like it should shoot "soft ammo" fine. I will make an effort to be conscious of my thumbs next time I shoot.

>>33351515
>buying contract guns that euro police departments turned up their noses at
Why do you think the contract was canceled.

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>>33352856
>HK

even German police hate them.

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>>33352887
>>33352856

>>33352856
It's not like it's a new model gun it's just a fucking uspc

It's not like they are all lemons or something

>>33351762
>caring about sodium ever
>wasting away if unable to consume 5kcal/day
¿did you finish my wall juan?

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>>33351740
Who even goes to McD's for anything but cheap soda anymore?
Their shit isn't even cheap anymore and you can get more for your money and have it be better quality by going nearly anywhere else.
Do they survive through sheer inertia?

>>33352838
>I'm thinking it's "soft ammo" but I still feel like it should shoot "soft ammo" fine.

User error is the most common failure with new guns.

That said, these guns are designed to cycle NATO spec ammo out of the box, not WWB out of spec left overs, if you wanted a target gun designed for the USA civilian market you should have got an M&P or XD. I'm not bullying, these guns (especially LEMs) need help in the early rounds working with non-fighting ammo, I mean it';s called the Law Enforcement Modified trigger for a reason anon.

>>33352754
Well at least you've learned a valuable lesson. I don't buy anything before I fully test a new weapon, even glocks have several, but even then I test it ,because if you have no confidence in it you'll never carry or use it.

>>33352949
Why would the lem module affect how the gun cycles? More force required to cock it? I don't understand.

>>33352960
THe trigger spring is pre-cocked by the cycling of the slide in LEM guns.

OK, take your LEM and rack the slide - now rack the slide again, light as air right?

Now break the trigger and rack the slide.

There is work being done by the slide and right out of the box shitty low power ammo is going to struggle when the gun is designed to work right out of the box with full power ammo.

Seriously this is a non issue, either your gun is literally bricked in the extractor/ejector (bet you $500 it's not this) , you are riding the slide, or it's not ready to eat faggy ammo yet - all of which are basically SOP stuff - you are not out on a limb here.

I've been shooting and carrying the same USP45C for 20 years. Never had any issues with it, ever. Of any kind.

Don't know how you'd expect anyone here to be able to diagnose a problem from a single picture and saying what ammo you're using.

I get calls like that all the time.

>RIIING!
>Hello?
>Hi, I have a problem with my gun.
>Well, what seems to be the problem?
>It don't shoot.
>........

At most, you're going to get a best guess. Maybe it's correct. Maybe not.

Take it to a reputable smithy, along with your mags and at least one box of what you're shooting. Don't change anything.

If the smithy can replicate the problem, then he can diagnose the problem.
If he can diagnose it, then he can fix it.

Other than that...

>>33353000
But any pistol is cocked by the slide moving back why would the lem be any more than a da sa?

>>33351515
get +P+ rounds

>>33351730
>blazer brass
that stuff is such shit. ive had a bullet separate from its case just from loading it into a magazine, and when it does shoot, it barely cycles my glock and cz slides.

>>33353001
>If the smithy can replicate the problem

This, holy shit. When people come to anyone in any industry for help, if you/we can't replicate the problem, there's fuckall we can do to help you. If you're hearing a weird noise in your car but it 'stopped doing it a week ago', or if your software 'doesnt work' but you can't properly explain the problem, then dont expect good help.

>>33351515
UNRELIABLE
NOT A SOLJERS GUN
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRRwbhN4-sU

>>33353075
I haven't had problems with it honestly. But I've only shot maybe 500 rounds of it.

>>33353086

Pretty much, yeah.

Gotta see if we can make it do - or not do - whatever it is you're concerned about.

Which means I need what you were using when the problem occurred - your piece, your mags (all of them) and the ammo you're using - if you have any left.

If I can duplicate the problem, then I can find out what that problem is and fix it.

Doesn't do me any good for a client to drop off his piece and I have to use shop mags and shop ammo, because then I changed the conditions...

I get that OP is hot because his New Shiny isn't working as advertised... but that's hardly a reason to condemn an entire company.

Hey OP.

Question.

Your hands and clothing in the picture - how cold was it that day?

I'm thinking whatever you lubed the slide with...if it wasn't something like MPro7... and it was cold enough... maybe the viscosity increased.

Wouldn't be the first time a weapon was rendered inop due to cold + wrong lube...

My P30 and USP don't give me any problems unless I let them get dirty.

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>>33353225
It was about 40 degrees.

Here for whoever wanted a pic of the extractor

Yes it's filthy maybe I'll clean it and take another pic.

>>33353326
>unless I get them dirty
HK quality everyone

>>33353455
>Yes it's filthy maybe I'll clean it and take another pic.

nah it's all good.

So visually the extractor looks ok, how's the ejector?

It could be the extractor spring but that's such a weird part to be DOA.

I'm still sold on your thumbs, but possibly soft ammo, but no it's your thumbs. Beat me to death if I'm wrong OP

>>33351701
fuck yourself, fanboy

>>33353014
Im guessing they slapped a heavier hammer spring in there to make the trigger heavier and making the recoil do more work to cock it but this is abnormal its probably a user issue. Id beleive he got a bad batch of ammo before i beleived he had a lemon usp

>>33353225
Anon the obly part of my 92G that has been lubed in the past 300 rounds of wolf steel case is the bore. This wont not cycle. Cold weather making his lube change is not a good explanation.

I used to run my m16 dry as fuck for the entire range week because i knew my mags would be the only reason the weapon malfunctioned.

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>>33353503
Fine from what I can see

>>33353630
I'll try the exact batch in my cz tomorrow

>>33351515
>FTE and didn't chamber a round
Looks like you are running ammo that isn't cycling the slide all the way. Since it's a brand new gun you should try running some 124/147gr 9mm for a few hundred (500) rounds and come back. HK designs are BIG into heavy ass recoil springs that need to be "broken in" before slower ammo will cycle more reliably (MP5s are NOTORIOUS for this). Run some of that through it and come back.

>>33351700
You should look into a P-01 for carry if you already like CZ. It's designed to shoot NATO ammo but eats range loads out of the box, takes full size mags/parts (same sear cage) and probably weighs the same as that USPc.

>>33353630
The trigger feels pretty light to me I think it's the 5 poundish lem one

>>33353808
I have an ass ton of 115gr I need to shoot can't I just break it in with that?

>>33353787
Seemslike the concensus is USPs are built for hotter rounds. Try hotter boolets and let us know how it goes. After some hotter rounds cycle that recoil spring a bit more I bet it will cycle propperly with 115gr

>>33353837
I looked into it a bit I really do like my cz and I'm used to da/SA now.

I love being able to thumb the hammer on reholstering.

>>33353838
Yes but shoot 50 rounds of +p or nato spec or whatever to see if it solves the problem so you at least know. Then you can decide what sort of break in procedures u wanna try

>>33353838
You can keep doing it yes, but you will experience issues. Trust me I was pretty sad when I went through this with my MP5, but a few hundred rounds of 147gr later and she eats 115gr like a champ now. You can afford an HK so you can fork over a little for a few hundred of 147/124 and then shoot 115 as much as you. I mean shit son I buy 9mm at anywhere from .16-.23/rd shipped all the time.

>>33353857
>>33353870

I'll see about getting some hotter ammo soon. Typically I just shoot cheap shit and that's all I have right now.

Is any 147gr fine?

>>33353870
>>33353857
>>33353838
This. Run hotter rounds to see what happens. Purpose being to diagnose. Then do whatever you want kek.

>>33353915
>>33353922
Yeah so long as it's spec you should be fine. I've had good experiences with Speer Lawman, though admittedly the tips were a bit flatter as I recall. Always remember with pistols if you're having malfunctions; clean the feed ramp (FTF is so often caused by carbon build up on the feed ramp), check the feed ramp for fucked up surfaces (bumps in the ramp means a bullet might catch), check your ammo (is it hot enough, is the tip causing issues), and check your springs.

>>33353915
Hell ya its all fine. The usmc technically just uses 124g +p fmj kek. Anything thats 124g +p fmj might serve the "nato soldiers gun spec ammo" that your hk may want.

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>>33353954
Thatd have to be some bad ass carbon buildup on a feed ramp. I havnt touched my feed ramp in 300 rounds (not a lot yet i know but i shoot when i can) and it hasnt had issues.

Pic semi related i dont have a recent pic of my feed ramp

>>33353978
I doubt it's your feed ramp since you're not even chambering a round. You can see it in your picture the round was removed from chamber, and not ejected (common in slide not cycling all the way). Given that it's a new gun I doubt your springs are fucked up and trying to feed another round is moot if the first doesn't eject. HKs are built to cycle anything it can find. The side effect of this is a recoil spring that needs a bit of exercise before she'll work well with weaker loads.

OP thumbs guy again. Before you spend money on ammo - go shoot like 20 rounds and ride your thumbs low and apply lots of counter force - it's worth confirming it's not thumb drag on the slide before you spend dosh.

>>33353998
That's not op in the pic it's someone else.

>>33353999
I will but I don't think it's that. I try not to apply pressure with my left thumb anymore.

>>33353998
Anon im not op thats my berettas slide kek. Im saying that guns have to be pretty crazy dirty to fail from cleanliness/lube issues.

>>33353999
Also this.

>>33353999
Oh also my friend had the same problem with the gun and he has a far less aggressive grip than me.

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>>33352036
>>33352078
As long as it's been legally sold in the united states through an FFL and the serial # hasn't already had warranty work claimed on it by someone else you should be fine, especially if it's a brand new gun. As others have said, try some hotter ammo, if it doesn't work, you may have to send it in to H&K for work on the extractor. it sucks I know, but they will make it right for you. It happened with me on my Springfield Armory 1911, wouldn't eject anything but the hottest +p+ rounds right out of the box until I ran something like 100 rounds through it.

>>33354044
>>33354046

Well run the 20 rounds, then buy 100 NATO rounds or at least something a little hotter (just being heavier doesn't cut it OP - my new P30L LEM ate WWB 115 fine but didn't like LAX 124 for a bit)

Weight isn't everything, run something hot, or just keep blasting through your target 115v ball ammo for a few more hundred, don't see improvements? send it to HK 'cause it;s the rarest of the rare lemons

Sell it and pick up a m&p. Don't think of it as a loss but rather purchasing a life lesson. No real harm done.

>>33351740
Is HK is the mcdonalds of firearms?

>>33351515
>buy gun designed for hot .40 that will eat 50,000 rounds of 9+p+ without a spring change
>shoot the weakest, lightest, lowest pressure shit I can scrape quarters together to afford through it
>"wow, what a piece of shit"
You might want to replace your recoil spring with a mechanical pencil spring. You could also buy a hi point and have the slide lightened, those rounds might cycle then.

>>33354049
>>33354075
I'll try to get a hold of at least 100 rounds or so of something hotter I just want it to eventually cycle the 115 perfectly as well then maybe I'll trust it.

>>33351951
You wouldn't put cheap gas in a sports car

USPs do like hot ammo, I think.

I bought a box of steel-cased Wolf .40 for shits and gigs, just to see how it was, expecting failures. It barely left the ejection port. I had two FTEj, and one FTEx. Perfacta and WWB 180 grain leave the port a bit faster and are flung farther. WWB 165 grain makes a nice arc and pelts the person at the next bench. It's a shame WWB is so fucking dirty, though. Perfecta is cleaner and cheaper. It's a shame my Wally World doesn't seem to carry it anymore.

>>33354129
HK nuthuggers ladies and gentlemen

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>>33352174
*BRRAAAAAAAP*

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>>33352174
>If my HK ever fails at least it won't explode in my hands. :^)

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>>33354213
>>33354183
>>33354183

>>33354150
Unless your gun is truly defective, which is very very unlikely, you will be satisfied with its reliability with target ball soft ammo very shortly.

Most problems with handguns are user induced, not accusing you, but almost every pistol's documentation comes with a statement saying "You are probably the cause because real estate for grip and technique matter a ot with pistols"

>>33351515
HK went cheap and road the fanboyfag wave
Sig is where it has always been and will be . JSOC is sig and those guys know whats up .

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>>33351515

>frame mounted safety

>>33354151
I also wouldn't trust my life to the reliability of a sports car, or run it in adverse conditions.

>>33354302
dude these were grey market USPs ordered for some PD in yurop, they are USP9c LEMs with a specified ambi safety and they went for $550 from classic arms, I bought one when there were 98 left, went back 220 minutes later to buy a second one and they were gone.-bretty gud get tbqhsmh senpai

>>33354151
Good thing we're talking about guns and not sports cars.

>>33354312
His analogy is whack, USPs are literally the golden standard of eat everything. Either OP really has a broke gun, is trolling, or his thumbs are riding the slide, I thin at this round count even under powered target ball shouldn't be the issue.

>>33354302
that's not event he worst part. at least on a 1911 it's flat and wide and low profile and not in the way. the HK safeties are flimsy shit that's far to thick, off the frame, has a narrow base and will snag, activate and in some cases just snap off. and yet idiots here will defend it.

>>33351515
sell it to me you dumb nigger

>>33354334
I'm not trolling.

>>33351515
how about you stop running shitty russian ammo?

>>33354373
People like you that make excuses for 800 dollar guns on ammo that works completely fine are sad nuthuggers.

>>33354372
SO thumbs, broke gun, or more rounds down range.

Think of it this way - your new HK was not un-fired, they shot it at the factory to make sure it worked, they shot it a lot even.

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Next time try and not limpwrist it like the faggot that you are.

>>33354490
Kill yourself

>>33354103
>the most reliable autoloading pistol ever designed has function issues even after a 200 round break-in period

I thought that modern autoloaders had better reliability than a revolver. Is the USP just very sensitive to good grip compared to other guns, or is the OP a retard?

>>33354511
It's firing a gun not fucking rocket science you idiots

>>33351762
thinking that was real- you must be one of those... trolls I hear so much about

>>33354511
>>33354516

Quick Rehash

Possibilities:

1) extractor spring DOA (lol)
2) Extractor DOA (OP posted pics, nope)
3) Ejector DOA (Pics - nope)
4) Soft ammo for a custom ordered set of LEM USP9c guns w/ Safety
5) Operator Error (thumbtastic)
6) Bad ammo


Those are literally the only possible issues.

>>33351866
None of my usp's are picky about ammo (full size 9mm and .45, compact .40), but my Glock 17 doesn't eject a lot of steel cases 115gr.

>>33354324
>lem
>safety
I thought it's a v3 decocker only.

>>33354802
This run was literally a grey market batch of custom USP 9cs built for a Europe PD

we got them for 550 out the door, no joke, nib

>>33354511

>Is the USP just very sensitive to good grip compared to other guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRRwbhN4-sU

>>33352949
The USP line was actually specifically intended for the US market originally.

>>33354972
>The USP line was actually specifically intended for the US market originally.
US Police and MIL market who run ammo meant to kill people

>>33351776
>95% is acceptable to you

Cant tell if serious or trolling.

>>33355235
It's not acceptable I was trying to convey that varying pressures especially to the light side can cause malfs that have nothing to do with the gun,

>>33355408
A handgun should be able to run any kind of ammo from a professional manufacturer, 100% reliably or it's garbage.

>>33351515
Don't miss with the first shot.

>>33354987
Bro, you wanna know how i know you haven't served?

>>33351515
Tula 45 is bad, my friends colt 1911 had the same issue, just get brass ammo.

>Buys discounted 9mm for affordable ammo prices
>Just buy +p+++ ammo anon

Great advice guys

>>33355699
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Post guns and time stamp

>>33354120
No, Glock is McD's. Was really good back in the 90'S when there was little competition, and has held on this long because people are afraid to switch to the new, better offerings. At a decent price point, and technically fills every void you need.

HK is subway. Get it how you want it, as long as what you want looks good, but still leaves you unsatisfied.

>>33351515

Always buy german guns.

>>33351515
That's unfortunate but these things do happen. I have a compact model and I use only 124gr rounds for my 9mms, apart from what people here have recommended try looking at different mags.

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>>33351515
my 1911 runs steel and aluminum cased shit

>>33351515
use proper +p for breaking it in and stop whining

>>33354449
>they shot it a lot even
They don't.
They test a couple of each batch, but those never get sold. The rest get pressure proofed, sighted in, have 5 rounds shot through them for the accuracy test and are shipped off.
This is true for SIG SAUER & H&K regarding handguns and rifles, also true for Blaser, Sauer, Merkel and Mauser regarding longarms in general.

>>33357053
Oh I thought I read somewhere they do a couple boxes, I retract my statement, open mouth insert foot.

I stand by the other part of my analysis tho

>>33352021
Only in 10mm/.45.

>>33351740
>eats shit
>carries a shitty gun
>is a tripfag
Checks out.

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>>33356857

>>33359079
btfo

>>33351515
this can happen to any semiauto.
>rack the slide

Shot 40 rounds of Independence 115gr today out of my HK and got 3 ftes. Shot 39 through my SP01 and had no failures. I was paying attention to my thumb and doubt it made contact with the slide at any point.

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>>33353225
I've never had any of my guns act up due to cold.

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>>33361186
Maybe this is why

>>33351515
Are you shooting cheap, weak ammo like Blazer?

If so, it's not the gun.

>>33351619
>muh limp wristing

Do you limp wrist your dick at nite?

>>33355408
Well, they do. You need to replace the recoil spring with a lighter one.

HK is the best!

>>33361229
Works fine in other guns why should it not work in HK?

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>>33361335
>Because
>The
>Springs
>Are
>Tuned
>For
>Hot
>Ammo

How fucking hard is this to understand?
Use good hot ammo for a while, change the recoil spring for $7, or rack the fucking slide as hard as you can 300-500 times. Jesus christ, this is exactly tge same as someone buying a semi auto shotgun and bitching that it won't cycle walmart birdshot. You faggots are the reason new HK pistols can't feed +p+ for 20,000 rounds undamaged, they had to gimp the guns to feed your poorfag ammo.

>>33362182
Yeah because other guns that work with hot ammo malfunction with other ammo right?

Wrong. Sorry hk nuthugger apologist.

>>33362524
Yes, my carry ammo would beat a Glock or 1911 to fucking death. If I put springs strong enough to precent that in it I couldn't cycle cheap range ammo. My USP45 can do both.

>>33352728
ITS NOT A SOLDIER'S GUN

>>33351725
Multiple people having the same opinion is im-fucking-possible right guy?

>>33362552
>He thinks Glocks can't handle hot ammo

Holy shit lmao

>>33351515
USP is chambered for 9mm NATO

what you're doing is like shooting 9mm Glisenti through a 9mm Luger pistol ane complaining that it short strokes

shoot the ammo the gun is designed for

>>33363937
>9mm Luger compared to 9mm Luger is like shooting a different caliber

Yeah and my AR shouldn't cycle .223 either right?

I'll be fucked if I pay for a gun with a plastic hammer

>>33362773
NOT A SOLDIER'S GUN?!

>>33351619
I second this. Op is a limp wristed faggot.

>>33351641
>finicky
>asking that you just fire it somewhat normally

You're a special kind of fucking retarded aren't you?

>>33366316
Yeah dumb fuck you got me I fire with a two finger grip thumb and index

>>33351515
>USP
>9mm

Probably the only gun where you should get the .40 instead of the 9, t b h.

>>33362552
No it wouldn't. Other guns can handle weak ammo just as well as hot ammo. HK's are just picky and therefore unreliable. It's not a soldier's gun. It's barely even a cop's gun. The warning stamp on the trigger guard should include "For range/competition use only."

>>33356891
>Subway
>Get it how you want it
>Unless you want it good

Good HK analogy actually.

>>33351951
Some of the 40 cal Glocks were ammo picky. They didn't like the really spicy shit.

wtf is going on? are people saying HK's should be able to use everything because they're HKs?

A big part of their appeal is the name, you know that right? And I say this as a USP owner.

>>33366443
>just as well as hot ammo.
Not the 255gr .45 Super I use as carry ammo. This is the problem, you have been conditioned to believe +p is 'hot' ammo and your Glock is special for being able to fire a few thousand rounds before it eats shit and dies.

>>33363937
This.

Wolf 9mm might as well be fucking .380. I have about 900 rounds of this bullshit sitting around because it won't cycle heavy sprung 9mms.

>>33366857
AK bro?

>>33366569
People are misunderstanding the purpose of firearms. HK guns are very specifically tailored to ammo/use. Hell, the MP5 has different roller/spring combinations for different ammunition and possible suppressor use.

People need to stop thinking all guns are the same

>Ned a gun that will run shitty low pressure ammo with stock springs and no wearing in?
Glock, but don't shoot a lot of very hot ammo.

>Need a gun that can literally run hundreds of thousands of rounds of +p without major components replacement and handle +p+ out of the box?
USP, but expect the springs to be too stiff for low quality ammo until the springs take a set and allow the slide to gain velocity before properly compressing them.

This is not fucking hard.

>>33356891

What's the five guys of guns? The In-n-out? Wendys? All the rest?

>>33366910
>Wendys?
HK

>Good
>Expensive
>Sometimes gives you food poisoning
>Everyone knows they exist and yet nobody ever suggests them

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>>33366887
>AK bro?

We're like the only two people on here, aren't we.

kek

>>33351515
It doesn't matter. No one wants your $8 and crusty Android phone, or your flabby ass.

>>33351575
Hk fags are worse than glock fags

>>33366920
Lol, I really need to get a life.
Speaking of that shit 9mm, where did you get it and how much did you pay? My roommate was incredibly appreciative of that bag and felt bad that he didn't have more brass case to trade.

>>33366931
It was an Alaska list purchase. Split 1K rounds with my roommate only to find it wouldn't work in my gun. Still have lots of it up for trade or whatever.

>>33366950
I'll let him know, he reloaded his first box of 9mm last night and realized it was tedious as fuck lol

>>33366916

Has HK recently gone to shit because those new Wendys fries are garbage compared to the old ones.

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>>33351515
Did you buy one of these?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfQHy_CejoU

They were likely custom sprung from the factory for duty ammo, you didn't buy a civilian HK and yet you're trying to shoot the lowest end of civilian ammo in it.

>How stupid are you?

>>33366985
Same springs

>How stupid are you?

>>33366989
The gun is in non-standard factory configuration.

>>33367003
Because it has ambi safety with lem? How exactly does that mean the springs are different?

>>33366887
That's just some shit you made up. A regular USP should be able to run lower pressure ammo no problem and vice versa for a glock. I've put well over 1000 rounds of underwood through my g29 without changing anything, not to mention all the shit I normally shoot.

>>33352921
5k a day? damn you're one fat fuck, when's the last time you could see your tiny dick through past your equator?