How would it play out if the entire Wehrmacht at its peak strength

>>33345461
They'd fucking lose.

>>33345469

You'd think that. But now there's millions of great men ready to be leaders to even a higher amount of millions of Germans who feel they're losing their country and their people.

Think of all the modern Germans who would help and give them newer technology.

>>33345579
You're a delusional 14 year old.

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>>33345461
This would never happen

> Entire force from ww2 magicly fucking appears inside of Germany at "random"
> German populace instantly assumes nazi foces DID have some successful experiments
> Gestapo take to office
> Merkel comes to the steps and demands that they turn in their weapons
> "Zerstöre alle Juden und erhöhe dich an die Macht"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxoKjwudruw
> Germany has effectively tripled its army count
> 1940's Germany reinstated
> German populace goes wild in cheer
> Sand niggers take for the hills
> World news goes insane about some crazy german ww2 experiment
> Trump watches from airforce one as empire carpet commerical plays the background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCuv5AplYy8

> "Well i think the germans are great great strong people" -says trump " I look foward to working with them"
> The world goes silent
> Liberals cry
> Mudslides protest
> Israel Tries with all its might to prepare for the coming becoming
> First protest in germany antifi is met with overwhelming force and swifly kicked upon carts never to be seen again
> It has begun.
> Today Germany
> Tomorrow, the world
> Whitepeopelchimpout.pt2.avi

>its one of those threads again

>>33345461
20 minutes later Israel nukes Germany.
Game over.

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>>33345601
> Trump watches from airforce one as empire carpet commerical plays the background
> "Well i think the germans are great great strong people" -says trump " I look foward to working with them"

Oh m8, I am laffin.

>>33345461
A single Puma IFV could shit out unimaginable amounts of hell against 1942 era army.
Not even the Tiger would be safe against modern 30mm ammunition, with thermals, FCS and stabilizers a single IFV could hold off a massively numerical superior enemy.

>>33345461
>How would it play out if the entire Wehrmacht at its peak strength appeared in the middle of modern day Germany, say around Munich.
I think Goebbels alone can takeover Germany in few month. He and Hitler were monsters, bud damn talented monsters. With access to modern political technologies he will destroy today's European politicians.

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>>33345601
inb4 gets fuckn rekt by Vladmir

>>33345916
>implying modern Germastan has money/balls to provide training for that vehicle or any other vehicle

>>33345916
Reminder that German IFVs were armed with broomsticks painted black due to equipment shortages.

>>33345461

If they went in it trying to annex directly they'd still lose, because they would have almost non-existent infrastructure to tap into and once they run out of fuel they're nothing but an oversized gang of skinheads, and even in its current subpar state the modern Luftwaffe is an insurmountable force multiplier.

Some other guy once made a thread about WWII Germany vs. Modern Germany: the end agreement was that Germany would lose.

>>33345584
T. Turkroach living in Germany

>>33346212
>Implying Vlad wouldn't rather work with Nazis than the EU.

If he helped them topple Merkel, thats several years of Germany being a non player in world affairs while it reforms. Plenty of time for the Russian Federation to take what it wants with no EU interference.

>>33346110
They were certainly talented men but it speaks more to the power of what motivated, non-demoralized men can do.

>>33346467
Europeans can't into supply and reserves. Theres no way modern Germany has enough bombs to take out several hundred thousand vehicles and millions of infantry.

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Heres a better hypothetical scenario
>Regiment of newly minted WW2 Waffen SS
vs
>Seasoned regiment of WW1 Strosstruppen
we're assuming no armor or aircraft involved

>>33346467
Bro they have less than 100 working attack aircraft. It would take months for such a small airforce to take out a WW2 military. They would have to sortie 24/7 to have an inpact, something that would deplete them from maintaince. I'd wager the only European nations that could take such an event and survive would be UK, Switzerland, Czech Republic and Russia.

>>33345469
Isn't the entire wehrmacht/ss around like 8 million soldiers?

I don't think modern germany's army is anything more than 178k.

If they magically appeared and zerg rushed major facilities, the sheer firepower and surprise might be enough to overwhelm entire areas, and given that said bases have their equipment on standby with manuals in german....it might be really bad for the Bundewehr.

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>>33345461
>What would happen if a force of a couple million men had the task of stomping on about 200,000 men concentrated in one city
>who would win

>>33346595
Not to mention all the collaborators from inside and outside of Germany. Its not their value in number it's all the information they would provide them.

They would zerg the modern german army.

Wehrmacht:
>Size 18,200,000 (total who served)

Bundeswehr
>Active personnel 178,334 (28 February 2017)
>Reserve personnel 31,700 (2015)

well the Wehrmacht would certainly have a huge numbers advantage.

if they could get to the Bundeswehr bases quickly enough to prevent mobilization. Then they have a chance.

If the Bundeswehr wins the initiative roll. Then their qualitative advantage comes in. Allowing them to smash the the Wehrmacht with minimal loses.

>>33345469
The wehrmacht would lose in minutes. The best AT they have is a PAK 43 that won't do shit against a Leopard and it's just kekworthy to imagine the dogfight of a bf-109 and a eurofighter

>>33345461
Go back to /pol/

>>33345461
How would NATO not play a part?

The major base of US central command for Europe, Africa, and the Middle East is in Germany.

Here is what would happen. The US would see a shit ton of Nazis "magically appear" in Germany. We would delegate hundreds of drones and bombing them. The Wehrmach, like always, would piss themselves in fear and be annihilated. We wouldn't care about civilians and neither would the Germans.

After that, it would give a greater reason to build more US bases in Germany.

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>>33345469
Wrong.
>unless you mean Modern Germany, then yes, you're correct.

>>33346595
>>33346660
178,334 TOTAL Personnel

That's everyone, desk jockeys included.

The Wehrmacht would overwhelm the modern Bundeswehr in under a week.

>but muh Leo2 and Pzh.2000
Whoop-de-doo, the Leo2 would be the Tiger, and all the Pz.IIIM's & Pz.IVG's would be the Shermans, they'd be overwhelmed as the Wehrmacht advanced at pace.

Euro Typhoons can't attack ground targets effectively until Tranche 3 rolls out.

Those who see numerical advantage as exclusively advantageous have no understanding of logistics. Not that a hypothetical question this stupid should have ever left the adolescent mind that conjured it to begin with.

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Everyone would lay down their arms and be happy to see their grandparents/grandchildren.

>>33349743
Except a Pz. 4 would have to roll up a spitting distance from the rear to even scratch the Leo 2.
One single modern panzer battalion could hold off divisions of 1942 panzer forces. The vast majority of 1942 whermacht used Pz.III and Pz. IV, both of which could be penetrated by by IFVs over a kilometer out. With night fighting ability and the ability to fire through smoke and on the move, a few IFVs would cuickly render all vehicles to burning husks whereupon the infantry would have to march through kilometers of artillery and machine gun fire to get to vehicles they have no weapons whatsoever to deal with. Modern Germany would have unimaginable advantage in mobility, firepower, armor, recon, air defenses, everything except numbers.
/pol/ memes aside, modern day Germany could in an emergency scrap together enough armor to break the Nazi morale and force a complete rout in a few days.

>>33346260
>>33346450
Memes aside, if modern Wehrmacht managed to cobble together a few dozen Pumas and Leos, there would be fuckall the nazis could do against them.
Modern day Germany could easily raise a battalion and just roll up to the nazi high command and force them to sign a surrender.

>>33350491
>modern Wehrmacht
That's called the Bundeswehr, champ.

>>33346556
>Implying WWII Germans can into supplies and logistics

Lol no

>>33349743
>Implying the difference between a fucking pziii and a leopard 2 is the same as the difference between a Sherman and a tiger

>Yfw Shermans kicked tiger ass back in WWII and you think pziiis would do shit against modern vehicles

>>33347641
this entire fuckin thing is completely hypothetical.

Reminder that the Chief of the Bundeswehr said a week ago that even if they had the funding, it would take a decade to get the German army in any sort of decent fighting shape. Few working choppers, spare vehicle parts, and no funds for new gear or vehicles.

Also, yes a battalion of Leopard 2s would be able to wreck a division of PzIII/IV/Panther/Tiger, but theyd run out of ammunition pretty soon. And if they are the rock that breaks the wave, the wave encircles the rock, cuts off supplies and waits for them to surrender. Meanwhile, WW2 panzers would still be good against light skinned and unarmoured vehicles and infantry. They would get BTFO by modern anti tank equipment, but 8,000,000 v 170k in a majority infantry conflict, the 8 gorrilion are gunna win.

>>33346569
>Regiment of newly minted WW2 Waffen SS
What year? By 1945 they were accepting old men and teens.

>>33346467
>Germany vs. Germany
>"Well like its obvious that Germany will lose"
thannk for answer

>>33350722
>Reminder that the Chief of the Bundeswehr said a week ago that even if they had the funding, it would take a decade to get the German army in any sort of decent fighting shape.

Against a peer army.
Against a WWII enemy any decrepit pile of junk out of the reserves would be a wunderwaffe.

>>33345579
No they're aren't millions of Germans who feel that way, they just lost a hue election because people are getting tired of their shit.

>>33347132
What about the PaK 44? Wasn't that 128mm?

>>33350213
this

>>33345469
Germany is in no shape for a fight. Millions of men with actually workign gear who aren't fat on bratwurst and beer would be a real problem for them.

>>33350442
Yes, and that works fuckign great until they go around and crush the supply units that are keeping the Leos running.

Learn how war works. Only a fucking retard attacks strong points directly.

>>33350808

Lose in that Germany would probably cease to be a great power and degrade into ME tier living standards where constant civil war, roadside bombs, and famine due to said civil war would be the norm.

>>33350588
A Pz.III with a 50mm long barrel cannon can detrack a Leo.2

It can also immobilize a Leo2 by putting a round up its ass once they get by

Modern Germany does not have the "oomph" left in its Heer or Luftwaffe to take on a multi-million strong, heavily equipped (material wise, not tech), army (which is also not Iraqi or North Korean tier in training, they know combined arms warfare).

>>33350538
No, that's janitorial training.

>broomsticks pun

>>33350901
Yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12.8_cm_Pak_44

>using the PzGr.43 projectile, the Pak 44 was capable of penetrating 230 millimetres (9.1 in) of 30 degree sloped armour at 1000 metres

Won't penetrate a Leo2 from the front, but it will definitely wake up the crew.
It might, MIGHT, pen from the side if perpendicular on a flat face...

>it's a /pol/ masturbation thread
The nazis would lose because they're 70 years behind in tech and tactics and no amount of handwaving and circumstancial bullshit would save them. At most they'd cause a bunch of infrastructural damage before getting their teeth kicked in, and even if they DID win, the US would come in and hand their asses to them on a silver platter and string Der Fuhrer up on a telephone pole.

>>33345579
>Think of all the modern Germans who would help and give them newer technology
Hey, how about you go outside for once and stop getting your worldview from 4chan shitposting.

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>>33346569
>>33350760
By 1945 the Waffen SS was getting the most Gucci gear that the German Gov't had to spare, senpai. Gewehr 43s, StG. 44s, MG-42s, camouflage, you name it they had it.

Even if we're talking 1917 Stormtroopers, they're armed with fucking what, Karabiner 98AZs and some MP.18s with trommel mags?

Even if the Stormtroopers were entrenched and on the high ground, I'm pretty sure they'd surrender at some point, given the fact most of them were intelligent individuals who can recognize when they're outmatched.

>>33346549
>Implying giving Putin any amount of land would appease him

Yes, because appeasement worked great with Germany, right? Just give them what they want and nobody will get hurt!

Don't fucking kid yourself; Russia would consume all of eastern Europe and come back a week later looking for the sausage course.

>>33354622
It doesn't matter if they have G43's and STG44's, if your primary fighting force is the dregs of society, seniors and children, you're not getting anywhere.

>>33345579
>that entire post
You've spent far too much time on 4chan listening to /pol/ masturbate and have forgotten that you're part of a political minority.

Go outside and talk to some people and see what they think of Hitler.

>>33354575
Are you retarded?

GO look at that the state of the bundeswehr. They're in fucking horrible shape to the point of not being a functional army. Most of their equipment doesn't have spare parts. Fucking all of it would break during the sort of extended campaign needed to break an 18 million man army.

>>33354659
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
/pol/ thinks all modern Germans are cucks.

Pro-tip: they are.

or maybe the nazis would turn in their arms and decide to join their modern brethren in economically and politically dominating europe while partaking in the joys of a first world democracy with a high standard of living and all the capitalist consumer joys it has to offer.

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>>33345461
>all the sperging ITT

Asberger-ridden cunts screaming about "muh realism" aside, let's look at the numbers.

Wehrmacht in its entirety consisting of the Heer, Luftwaffe, and Kreigsmarine, total out to ~6,550,000 in 1943. I can't be fucked to get the accurate numbers on each branch, so let's ignore the Kreigsmarine and pretend that the forces are split so that There are 4,050,000 Heer infantrymen and 2,500,000 Luftwaffe personnel.

So you have 4,050,000 men, and let's subtract 50,000 for high-command and logistical roles, leaving us with 4,000,000 men in Munich, Germany.

The entirety of the German Bundeswehr as of February 28th of 2017 is a whopping 178,334 active duty personnel.

It doesn't matter how much technical advantage they have, when the Nazis can blitzkrieg Berlin without any major resistance (shit-lipped liberals standing in the streets does not count as resistance) then it is considered a major victory. Even if the Bundeswehr managed to pull a 1:1 K/D that still leaves 3,821,666 men to blitzkrieg the rest of the country. 5:1? 3,108,330 Heer infantrymen from 1943 are still marching into Europe. There is nothing that can stop them, and the entirety of the EU has recently just cucked itself into oblivion in terms of national defense, because civilians cannot own guns with more than 10 round capacities.

Should the Wehrmacht just suddenly appear in Munich out of nowhere, Nazi influence stretches from Berlin to the Atlantic to the Mediterranean almost overnight and the rest of Europe would be overjoyed to see their return.

>>33354825
>Nazi influence stretches from Berlin to the Atlantic to the Mediterranean almost overnight and the rest of Europe would be overjoyed to see their return.
ah, another stormweenie autist rears his head

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>>33354653
You're kidding yourself if you think that the Waffen SS was pulling anything other than veteran Jugend kids for it's rosters. I'm pretty sure a 17 year old trained in Marksmanship in Highschool and brainwashed into fighting to the death with zealous fury is not a "dreg" to society.

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>>33354836
Prove me wrong, one of the cold-hands and viscous allergies.

>>33354870
>the waffen SS are bloodthirsty brainwashed murdermachines instead of exhausted malnourished kids
>just like muh Wolfenstein games!
please, read more actual history books

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>>33354902
>The Hitler-Youth are not brainwashed murdermachines
>The SS getting anything but the best

Please reconsider your statement.

>>33352589
>Yes, and that works fuckign great until they go around and crush the supply units that are keeping the Leos running.

Except for that to work you'd need a mobility advantage, something mosern Germany would have by orders of magnitude, only made worse by the fact that the few working Tornados would have free regin to rape Wehrmacht supply.
That and how Bundeswehr would have a few helicopters able to spot and report any flanking movement to be countered by mechanized forces that could fight at a greater than 100:1 numerical disarvantage.
Learn how war works.

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>>33345601
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxoKjwudruw

>This is what Jews actually believe

>>33345461
Modern Germany wins due to logistics.

The WWII force is cut off from its factories, it only has the ammunition it appeared with and that is going to run out fast.

The modern force may not have much active equipment but the German government has a ton of money and is right next to the Cold War stocks of Eastern Europe. As soon as they realize what is going on German officials appear at every forgotten warehouse of Cold War weapons with a blank check and a train schedule. They also have the option of hiring PMCs to help fill the ranks.

>>33345461
They'd be crushed. You'd basically just need 1 squadron of modern Eurofighters and a few Leopard 2 platoons; plus maybe some combat engineer units to scrape up the red goo and scorched metal that was the Wermacht off the pavement.

>>33345579
As cool as it would be, they'd fucking lose in anything except a city overrun, and even then, it'd be down to guerrilla war.

Granted, the bundeswher would have a lot of defectors. so there's that


But they would lose, and I would rather they wouldn't, but they would.

>>33346576
Finland.

>>33346467
>WWII Germany vs. Modern Germany: the end agreement was that Germany would lose.

Conclusive. Thanks

>>33354570
Dunno mate, Pak 44 was a vicious little critter. A side shot would do some hellish damage to the crew. From the front i think theyd be fine, just a hella loud door knock

>>33354718
>all germans r cucks guyze
The polish girl I invade every now and then thinks otherwise.

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>>33356176
>Being this delusional

If every single Wehrmacht soldier had enough ammunition for a full combat load, millions of men vs only a few hundred thousand, even though they're faced against a foe with superior logistics, does not remove the fact that they have vastly superior numbers and power projection, along with maneuverability.

>but they don't have factories, they would not be able to sustain a firefight
This is absolutely true, but is only relevant if they were fighting a larger force. Given their numerical advantage it doesn't matter that they don't have any way or replenishing ammunition. They wouldn't really need to.

>But Bundeswehr air superiority
A squadron of Eurofighters could not decimate a Wehrmacht army, and I'm pretty sure you know this.
>But my Leopards
As of 2015, Germany has 250 Leopard 2's in it's inventory. As of 1943 there were AT weapons developed to counter the Leopard 2. Remember, a mobility kill is still a kill. And if a Leopard 2 can't move because a Gebalite blew off it's tracks, the tank is dead meat during an infantry assault.

>German AFVs
Marder II IFVs and whatever else you could name, most of them do not have reactive armor and could be defeated with the AT weapons that the Wehrmacht fielded at the time. Panzerfausts, Panzershreks, and PaK40s. They might even lose to Panzer IVs at ranges exceeding 300m.

>German economy dictates that they have more money and can buy things
Modern Germany does not have stockpiles of weapons, they have either scrapped what they don't need or sold it off. PMCs are cute but are against modern laws of war. This is really grasping for straws.

>>33345461
Why would Germany resist? Also the Bundeswehr can't engage the Wehrmacht since it's not a foreign aggressor, so the Bundeswehr isn't allowed to operate on German soil.

>>33357152
>Panzershrek
Now I'm envisioning fucking Shrek riding around in a Panzer. And the donkey is his radio man.

I think a major question would be "Do the Wehrmacht know they have such an insane numerical advantage"

Hitler would have a far higher chance at winning if his men knew how to zerg

Another question would be: can the ww2 germans capture equipment? Maybe if they can figure out how to work modern weapons it would be even worse for modern day germany also

>>33354659

>Unrionically bringing up /pol/ as a counter argument

Opinion discarded.

>>33346467
umm Which Germany? Modern or Past?

>>33345461

The best WWII tank can be killed by a 60s vintage infantry carried Anti-tank weapon. Bolt Action Rifles and platoons with at most one easily jammed radio vs G3s and combined arms.

heck the police probably would do well against them defensively.

Stupid idea OP

What would be really freaky would be some 18 year old WWII version Wehrmacht soldier charging into a nursing home and running into himself.

I have a different scenario. What if an ex-East German general gathered an army of ex-East German soldiers and neo-nazi mercenaries circa 1994-1995 and staged a coup in a city like Dresden?

>>33354880
Leopard Tanks, Assault Rifles, Modern Military Equipment, Helicopters and Anti tank shit in general not real.

>implying the americans wouldn't immediately have a shitfit and curbstomp them all

>>33346569
I believe you already said it friend.

Veteran Stormtruppen? Who had experience sprinting across no mans land firing like savages before slinging grenades 20 feet in front of them?

I've read about the Freikorps Von Epp in the Munich uprising. Those were some hard sons of bitches.

you guys are missing the biggest issue with all of this
>the entire Wehrmacht at its peak strength
>With the task of defeating the modern day German army and restoring Hitler to power in Berlin

so they intentionally appeared with a plan are not exhausted and either have a fucking time portal to there supplies or brought a shit-ton with them, they are at there peak so they are expecting to fight millions of trained soldiers on two sides, they have no illusion on what must be done and would have minimal command issues as they are all on the same page

Germany is caught 100% by surprise, has multiple chain of command issues and has to muster a measly ~178000 in minutes, but before they can do that the word has to get out of munich. the city would be a stronghold within the hour
most if not all citizens would be arrested and detained and all opposing forces killed, any word that gets out is seen as lies and or rumor and the army doesn't move.

by hour ten the command of the Wehrmacht is briefed on the entire layout of Germany thanks to captured smart phones, and anybody who is sick of refugees is helping bridge the technology gap
the bulk of the force is briefed and most if not all the way ingolstadt
defensive perimeters are set up and Intel is pouring in from the Luftwaffe along with any airfields being disabled, most of the country is now laid out and army locations are known
the entire modern German army is mobilized and on there way to munich, with only a partial idea of what they are fighting

by hour 20 the bulk of the main German force is defeated by the much larger Wehrmacht and is in retreat, modern guns and munitions are captured and about 1/20th of Germany is under solid Wehrmacht control with around 1/10th being disputed or being scouted and taken

>>33357923
So wrong on so many levels

ah is this the daily wehraboo circle jerk thread?

glad i found it, almost got lost on my way to taking moscow.

>>33357906
This, fampai. A whole regiment of fanatic 18 year olds with boltguns that are so caught up in propaganda that they think they're hot shit sprinting across a field only to get kneecapped by entrenched veteran troops and then executed one by one via bayonet. Christ, the Sturmtruppen would probably even have a chance if the SS were the ones entrenched, especially considering the Sturmtruppen job description was "haul ass across a field while dodging machine gun fire and lobbing grenades and then hop into a pit and make human shishkebabs with your bayonet for the glory of the Kaiser"

>>33357957
explain plz

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>>33345461
>Go on a 20k
>Fuck this sucks
>Heer FuhgeruberleftnantHaptmanfuher gives me a flag
>fuck its heavy
>Heer FuhgeruberleftnantHaptmanfuher gets a bike
>I want a bike
>I want to go back in time and invade poland again

>>33358027
Any movies about em?

>>33354541
>de-track it
Great, now the invulnerable tank can't move, it's still going to obliterate the offending Panzer III.
This is assuming that the Leo crew are asleep and let the Panzer III get to withing a kilometre of them undetected....

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>>33357740
>ex-East German soldiers and neo-nazi mercenaries

plus
>>33345461
>the entire Wehrmacht
would quickly take over bundeswehr assets while the start a guerillia war against the few operational units. the bundespolizei (copshits) could be bigger problem than the bundeswehr.

yes. iam a german citizien.

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>>33358058
we also use underwater boonies.

>>33358673
>ywn operate innasea against deep ones using swarm tactics and their superior mobility to fuck your squad's shit up with fucking knives made out of broken oyster shells
why even live

>>33346212
all it would take is one well mannered man to go and inform them of the past and what happened.

russo-german alliance is formed.
"you take what you want and we take the rest of europe"
>shakes hands

its all ogre now.

FUND THE TIME MACHINE

>>33350213
sauce?

>>33358530
The brand new metal pillbox can now be encircled and even ignored.


A non-mobile tank is no longer an issue.

Tanks are beasts of the battlefield BECAUSE they are bunkers that can move.

You de-track it, it's no longer a major threat.

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>>33357772
Leopards can be defeated by infantry assaults and basic AT weapons. They're not invincible, especially when crewed and commanded by guys with 0 veterancy. Concerning assault rifles; the Wehrmacht had them, too. Though ESAPI plates are a dramatic increase in survivability; they're not going to stand up to 8mm Mauser, especially at close ranges. Now, in the open the Bundeswehr would have a clear supremacy on the battlefield, but at ranges of 300m or less they'd be mincemeat, especially in CQB where they'd be zerg'd to death.

>not real tho lol
Not part of the argument.

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what the fuck are <200 000 gonna do against >4 000 000 ww2 vets
over half the bundeswehr is fat as fuck as well
this is dumb

>>33350213
What if someone sees themselves?

>>33358041
Well for example you mentioned they would use smartphones, what about culture shock? I dont think they would instantly know what to do with technology decades more advanced than theirs. Also your scenario depends on the population helping the wermacht, I sincerely doubt this since modern germans spent their whole lives being thought about the evils of wartime germany and therefore be unlikely to offer help. And also not counting international response? I dont think the USA would take kindly to their bases being attacked.

>>33358800
underwater fighting sounds terrifying as shit.

>>33359339
Well the survivors would probably try to warn their younger selves that Hitler was a faggot who killed himself and that the Nazi high command was a bunch of losers.

And the younger selves would ask why the fuck there are somalians and arabs everywhere and the jews control everything.

The time travelers settle down in modern Germany and get rid of all the kikes and muzzies politcally.

>>33345469
Lets see, 12 to 15 million men fully armed drop into Germany already fighting? take about 30 minutes to become final boss. By the time everyone else in eeeurrruup got there shit together it would be to late just with sheer numbers.
>>33345601
>Germany has effectively tripled its army count
The Wehrmacht had over 19,200,000 during the war counting before the USA got involved the numbers would increase exp[onentialy.

>>33361605
>The time travelers ... get rid of all the kikes and muzzies politically.

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>>33346576
No Poland?

>>33345713

>Israel nukes Germany

At that point we'd just give Israel back to the people it belongs to. Not a wise move for the Hebrews.

>>33354926
>late war germans getting anything at all

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>>33358084
they're germans, only if they are portrayed somehow in a evil way

Do people honestly believe even all of these Germans would kill fellow countrymen if they just have the choice of running away? I guarentee you Fritz would prefer drinking the newest craft beers and porn than fucking shooting people. Morale would drop so fucking quick the Nazishits wouldn't even be able to comprehend

>>33363254
are you implying they'll oust them by force or they'll just continue taking it up the ass?

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>>33364935
Well they fought all the way to berlin even after knowing their citizens wanted to end the war

>>33345461
Every time the fucking krauts build up an army they have trouble feeding their people. If krautland was trying to support two armies they would starve even quicker.

Let's see...

First hour
> Modern German air force wrecks Wermarch
> Several tens of thousands of casualties
> Leopards cut swath through Tigers
> Modern infantry enjoy massive individual superiority of firepower

Post first hour
> Insane numerical advantage of historical armies overwhelms modern Germans
> Air force is out of weapons with nowhere to land
> Leopards run out of ammunition and swarmed
> Infantry annihilated by human waves
> Most forces don't even have time to assemble before formed units of WWII era Nazis capture bases

Seriously, it doesn't matter how technologically superior your force. If an opposing force appears in the middle of your country that literally outnumbers your own 20 to 1 when you're not even mobilized? Yeah, you're fucked.

>>33345461
>Restoring Hitler to power

Big mistake; they'd still lose.

>>33365139

> Infantry annihilated by human waves

I'm modifying this line

> Infantry annihilated by weight of fire

It's not like the WWII era troops would have to resort to charging like Russians. They have enough that a dozen could suppress a single modern German while multiple squads moved onto their position.

>>33346569
SS without question.

The SS were some of the premier pioneers of urban combat as we know it today.

All any special forces did in WWI was trench raids

>>33354575
>le unrealistic posturing just to not admit WWII Germany was an impressive military power
I don't give a fuck if you took 8 million fudds armed with break action 12 gauges and teleported them into Germany, the German military would get btfo.

>>33345461
This would be a great excuse for the US to invade again. We need another feel good war, and killing Nazis is good for moral.

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>>33345461
>the end of Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus Trilogy.
Come on Ingolstadt. You can do it.

>>33357152
>Modern Germany does not have stockpiles of weapons

I think this is the main problem. Most Western European nations do not have sufficient stockpiles of ordinance and ammunition for sustained combat. They operate on the belief that any major conflict they enter is with many other European nations likely with the logistical support of the US.

Since OP specified that Germany could receive no help then I imagine the German government would be sent into exile and it would be asymmetric warfare from then on. Actual destruction of German jets would be near impossible, but German fighters can't be everywhere at every time.

This is assuming that this is the Nazi evil style of Wehrmacht that'd be fine with killing Germans. Not that the Wehrmacht didn't do cruel things I'm just saying they were rather patriotic.

Wehrmacht vs. Modern Germany would be an example of a technologically superior force that would be unlikely to straight up lose engagements in a constant retreat due to the pressure of sheer numbers.

>>33345601
> Whitepeopelchimpout.pt2.avi

I laughed out loud behind my desk, the sheer happening size and /pol/ memes created from this would be hysterical.

>>33345601

>> "Well i think the germans are great great strong people" -says trump " I look foward to working with them"

Top fucking kek

>>33357139
Hans just because that pole has a feminine penis, doesn't make him a girl. Besides, you're far better suited for to be Ahmed's fluffer

>>33364935
not when his hometown is full of uppity violent niggers and sand niggers.

Modern Germany is so fucked 5 million Canadians with single shot rifles could defeat their military.

>>33350588
Dude, there's millions of them

>>33350491
The bundeswehr is prohibited from operating inside the country. It is only allowed to defend... This would probably count in this scenario, but i think they would react very late.

>>33350491
Do Leos and Pumas have infinite ammo in their stowage?

>>33359996
there are still nazies in germany, although few openly. But yeah, what are the opposing germans going to do? Jump in front of the bayonets?

Further, modern german gear has still german manuals, and is made to be used by idiots. Although they dont can use it by just picking it up, i dont think it will take long unitll at least a part of modern equipment is getting started to be used by them.

>millions of Wermacht appear in Germany
>America gets involved because fuck your dumbass rule
>completely cucks the Wermacht in approximately 2 days

>>33368481
like they cucked the afgans?

>>33368510
>afghans that have been doing this for three generations and who the surrounding population absolutely supports.
>Conventional army of the third reich that nobody in Germany will support because they're fucking nazis.
The two really aren't really all that comparable.

>>33345461
Of course they would win, the German army CANT go into Germany!