EU Gun ban live talks http://www.europarl.europa.eu/ep-li v

Ultrabump, this needs to be visible.

Why are there no interpreters in the stream?

>>33300935
click on language and pick English

always the dumb cunt feminists who think legal gun owners are responsible for the military-industrial complex

>>33300910
Some good opinions there. Shame they're still voting for more regulation due to peer pressure

RIP high cap mags
let's fire up the 3d printer

How will this affect the Czech Republic?

Have their laws changed for the worse?

>>33301070
Unless they leave EU they'll be forced to accept these directives.

>muh gun lobbies
>muh weapon industry

the libtards are like broken clocks.

>>33301085
>muh school shootings
>muh "we have to be different from the US"
>muh "more guns more crime"

sure, let's keep arguing on statistical minutia, emotional antiameticanism and just plain lies. Will anybody in a position of power ever call this out, for fuck's sake? The statistics are there to support our cause, the facts are there. These people truly live in an alternate reality. Beyond saving, the lot of them.

>>33301080
Hmmm, they haven't yet, and I hope they don't implement them and do leave the EU.

Unless EU is destroyed, the slope will get more slippery every years.

the link displays another debate now. How did the debate go? Can somebody give a quick rundown of the whole thing?

When are they voting on this?

>>33301146
later today

lots of good anti-gun ban arguments: it reduces freedom, legal gun owners have nothing to do with terrorism, already very regulated market

liberal arguments: "it's da gun lobbies and weapon industry who don't want regulation"
"people shouldn't have guns, it's dangerous, we have the police (no seriously, one dude said that)

commissionner said "thanks for your input, we'll vote for this later."

>>33301174
thanks, m8, I could only catch an early glimpse of the whole thing. Not knowing the exact time they will vote on it will wreck me though, I'm gonna spend the wole day glued to the screen waiting for a result.

>people shouldn't have guns, it's dangerous, we have the police

And the next week this same fuck will bitch about the oppressive racist police.

God I hate leftists so much.

>Also calling for more regulation in the EU
What the hell, I already have to do a shit ton of paperwork, pass exams and wait months to get guns as a belgian

All in all, it will ultimately depend on each country's own regulations because they can enforce these directives with even more stuff or not.

For instance high capacity magazines directives are sketchy: you can keep them if you practice for competitions/run competitions/own them before the new laws. No one knows the details really.

>>33301080
Not unless they apply a protective amendment/section of firearm ownership to their constitution. Let's not forget that there are also current EU nations that allows the collection of fully automatic firearms despite them being Category A firearms (And thus prohibited from Civillian Ownership)

Did they fucking forget the amount of illegal guns that made it into Germany, which Turks tried to carry over to the Netherlands yesterday? lol

How about zones in France that police are scared to go into which they have AKs, RPGs, etc?

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>>33301230
shut up goy we don't want white men having guns to protect themselves against our socialist elites

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>>33301234
inb4 a divide and conquer shitter throws a fit over your post/image

>>33301234
>grenade attacks in sweden
>treated like car accident statistics they are so widespread

>>33301230
The police goes everywhere it pleases it in France. There are no no-go zones. There are areas that are left alone for reasons of politics and as long as things are calm. When things heat up, the cops move in in force. Gangs have some AKs and some bullets, there might even be one or the other Serbian M72-copy in Marseilles and Paris, but that's about it. French banlieue gangs are by far less armed than the average LA gangs.

>>33301070
As I understand the based Czech got an exception for reservists. Which is good. But even better, they declared that every firearm owner is now a reservist. Problem solved. Czech Republic confirmed for most based EU/Schengen country.

>>33301584
Wait, this actually succeeded?

>>33301576
The police directly told the world otherwise last month.

nobody really talks much about how hard we're going to be raped in my country, what's on the plate here? ban on semi-autos?

>>33301607
Of course, they say this once in a while. They wouldn't get budget increases otherwise.

>>33301604
No idea. As I'm not Czech, I'm not really interested, but I found it to be a bold move.

>>33301632
If you cannot shoot anymore, you still will be able to use your gun oil as lubricant to make the rape less painful. What is you country?

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Ok. Guys. We lost.

>>33301644
I come from the land of pizza and retarded gun laws, but thankfully nearly not as bad as our neighbors' (yet)
anyway, what's going to be banned now?

>>33301102
#czexist

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R.I.P.

>>33301668
Nothing will really get banned. Rifles will become cat. A7 guns as soon as a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity is introduced. Rifles will become cat. A7 if they are shorter than 60cm with stock folded. Handguns become cat. A7 if they have a magazine of over 20 rounds capacity. Governments must ensure that people who purchase guns are mentally fit. Online shops that sell magazines and weapon accessories will be fucked. "High-capacity" magazines will become more or less illegal unless you're a member of a shooting association who participates regularly in shooting competitions and who needs high-cap mags, or you're a reservist in a country that had universal conscriptions in the last 30 years or so. If you want purchase a gun, your data will be sent to all EU countries for checking.

>>33301731
>Rifles will become cat. A7 if they are shorter than 60cm with stock folded.
already illegal here
>"High-capacity" magazines will become more or less illegal
nothing new
>If you want purchase a gun, your data will be sent to all EU countries for checking
>Rifles will become cat. A7 guns as soon as a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity is introduced
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
how do I get American citizenship? here our secret services actually work, I doubt I could keep an illegal fun for long

>>33301743
>how do I get American citizenship?
Get married to one.

Anyone want to marry me in the US? Gay marriage is legal there right? I want out of this commie cramped country.

>>33301743
Forgot to mention that your license to have guns will be limited to 5 years and that you'll have to renew it.

>>33301757
Yeah that is already the case in Belgium. I hate the commies who destroyed Belgium so much.

>>33301754
only on the west coast, and new england and Illinois

>>33301651
wait, what does this mean? There were options to change the directive just before the vote and they were shut down, I understand?

Has the directive already passed?

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I feel for you euro bros

this pisses me off and i'm a continent away

>>33301751
didn't you have some naturalization mechanism?
I could probably pass as a sand coon if I grew my beard and got a tan

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ok, wait a fucking second...

we have already strict gunlaws in germany, and our politicians don't want any stricter laws (besides the left and the greens of cause)
So there was just yesterday a try to get stricter laws by the greens which was defeatet.

And now you are telling me that these laws will aply to us?
Or is this just a gerneral suggestion what you may or may not make a law in your land?

>>33301783
Want to get real angry? Did you know that a scar 17s, wich is manufactured in Belgium, 100km from where I live, costs 5000€ and is never in stock anywhere?

The part I'm the most pissed off about is that the EU is so fucking cryptic on the results of their shit. One has to jump through hoops in order to find out something about this or that vote and it's frankly a load of bullshit considering that most civilized countries give vote results in real time.

>>33301798
That's the fault of the FN's shitty policies mainly, not the politics.

t. fellow belgian who's angry

>>33301797
The laws the EU are proposing are already kind of in place in the western countries of the EU (Germany, Belgium, Netherlands etc..) they are however not in Eastrrn European countries. But it is a slippery slope and at this rate, in 5 years and a few terrorist attacks more, semi automatic firearms and 20-30 round mags will probably all be banned.

>>33301798

>is never in stock anywhere

This is sort of the case everywhere, even in the US.

>>33301817
they just banned any mags with more than 10 rounds for rifles and 20 for handguns tho

>>33301812
Yeah true, where are you from? Flanders probably? I'm from Flemish Brabant

>>33301754
Minnesota here, I would love to but I already am and my wife would get pissy about a divorce for a gun nut I never met.

>>33300910
They will ban them anyway, and proceed with founding Globalist Occupation Force: District Europe ehm... EU Army.

>>33301797
CDU and SPD voted in favor of more restrictions.

>>33301828
Only for unregistered guns if I read correctly (wich are already illegal here)

>>33301831
Thanks anyway. Do you think it would work? Like divorcing after and stuff?

I want out of this hellhole, but have no education beyond Highschool to get me in the US.

Just end my suffering.

>>33301829
>Yeah true, where are you from?
No, Wallonia, Namen

I've heard the governor of flemish brabant was an anti-gun shithead and it's hard to get mod 4 there, is it true ?

>>33301853
Yeah but it's like an 8 year procedure from beginning to end. I looked into it when I was in college for my Chinese roommate but then he sketched me out (like he was trying to game my money).

You need to be married for like 3 years before you divorce. You can't just start the citizenship process and jump ship.

Seriously look into it though.

>>33301847

as they are in most eu countrys....that would be a good thing.

>>33301860
Well I just sent out the lasts documents a few days ago so I don't know yet... Applied for an AR 15 and a compact pistol so I am preparing for the worst, I do know the local police pretty well so once its there i should be ok. I will annoy the fuck out of the province if i have too

>>33301865
any restriction is a bad one imo

>>33301864
If you are a chill dude i don't see how you could not manage to stay together for three years (no homo) they can't check if you have buttsex i suppose lol

>>33301893
yeah, you are right. What is it about the 60cm weapon shit?

Well..we all will use the 30rd mags like we already do. sure, if the range insists in only loading 10 rds...well i will load only ten, but it should be no question where i load these 10rds into.

>>33301881
Remember they have maximum 4 months to answer you, after that you can appeal
If anything goes wrong don't hesitate to contact Mr. Daniel Beets, president of DAAA-AWL, a belgian pro-gun association, they can and will gladly help you with legal procedures, etc, if needed

>>33301912
dont know about that

Even though we already tougher gun laws it makes me glad we are leaving the EU, you're literally governed by a bunch of SJW and Jews in Brussels (Belgium isn't even a real country btw).

I know none of will do your own brexit because you all love the EU too much and gain too much out of it to leave, especially eastern european countries (czech included).

You kinda asked this upon yourselves, again I'm not flaunting about the gun restrictions as the UK and Ireland has harsher gun restrictions then the general EU restrictions.

But in general, I reckon in say 100 years or so the main bulk of Europe and the EU will form one country, like one giant country of mini states just like the USA. All obeying the same laws and customs.

>>33301935
yeah i would like to help his association, (i have some free time the coming months) like fix his website, seo and marketing in general, but he hasn't answered to my messages on facebook :( do you know him?

So what are the chances of Switzerland actually jump ship over this?

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-swiss-tell-eu-hands-off-veterans-assault-rifles-2016-8?IR=T

>>33301949
Without these countries you are talking about, i'm pretty sure all guns in europe would already be banned since there would be no opposition. I'm really happy they are there to counter all the immigration an gun bullshit

>>33301973
Yes but none of that would a problem if there wasn't a EU

>>33301955
I had two short chats with him IRL, here is also his e-mail adress :
[email protected]

>>33301997
absolutely true indeed

>>33302005
thanks

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>>33301797
>and our politicians don't want any stricter laws
Sure, Michel. Sure...
Thats why they voted for this shit.

according to this
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20170308IPR65677/parliament-approves-revised-eu-gun-law-to-close-security-loopholes

the directive needs to be approved by the council of ministers. Anybody here would be able to explain how this is supposed to work? Do we have to wait for another few weeks for a vote or is it just a matter of signing the law into effect?

>>33301962
All feminists, homos, greens, socialists and metrosexuals greeted the news. The law will be implemented no questions asked unless a referendum is taken, which the SSV and ProTell vowed to do. The referendum will most likely be put to vote (you need like 50k signatures to make a referendum and there were like 100k shooters at the last Eidg. Schützenfest alone). The big question is will the referendum be accepted by the population as it will jeopardize Switzerland's place in the Schengen treaty. We don't care about it, but the economy, the tourist industry, most politicians, and a big part of the population consider the Schengen treaty as vital.

>>33302095
links to the reactions for a fellow Swissfag?

also, I would not underestimate our countrymen. 20 minuten is running a poll and the pro-gun side was winning with like 85% of the votes last I checked

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>>33301771
The directive has passed with the latest amendments. Now it will be sent to the council of ministers, who are all fucking socialist cucks and they will accept it. What makes me rage the most was that this fucking amendment got accepted by a near-empty parliament. 80% of all seats were fucking empty and it seems that only the Brit pedophile and lesbian group was there, together with some other fucking latino leftist. Why do European country pay for their MEPs if those assholes don't even bother showing up for voting!!!

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>>33301962
0%
If I was Swiss I would vote for it, sure, but there is no way the general population will pick guns over Schengen.
>>33301949
>I reckon in say 100 years or so the main bulk of Europe and the EU will form one country
Not really. The German system is depending on old people, a few years away from retirement, without anyone to replace them (not couting in our muslim rocket scientists and doctors).
Now guess what happens, when they finally retire around 63 years of age and for every 4 of them, you get 1 German pressed out of the worsening education system and 1 refugee.
The single counter argument I have ever encountered, when talking to people about this situation, is: "Dont be so negative, it will work out somehow"
>>33302070
de facto just some signing the law

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>>33302064
you know what to vote next september!

>>33302156
welp, fuck. Does anybody happen to know how much it will take for the CoM to sign this?

>>33302171
Ministry is full of socialists and ex-commies

>>33301189
Should have left the EU as soon as they started trying to govern you.

Gun control will destroy it, give it time.

>>33302190
yeah, it went without saying. I was asking if it was a matter of hours or days

>>33302166
Yeah sure, but it doesnt matter.
Germany is a lost cause, and so is the EU with it.
>>33302171
I dont know the exact time but there isnt any resistance there. Just a formality at this point.

>>33302207
Some Weeks.
Depends on the department and on how fast the law needs to be in effect.

>>33302201
It's not really up the me you know ?
Belgium is fucked

>>33301908
I'd honestly take it up the ass for some of that gun freedom.

>>33302166
Germany's socialist government's nightmare: a nuclear family with two white children, a happy looking housewife, and a husband who hunts in his spare time. What they would prefer are probably two guys, one white, one middle-eastern, with two kids, one black and transgender, the other identifying as a fox.

>>33302258
Don't forget there is also a dog, HARAM

The French government created that law and pushed it all the way through, openly threatening MEPs in order to vote in favoir it.
France is going to get hit the most by this law, even if it didn't pass, there would be new gun control laws here. And those laws ultimately give the choice to each member state to keep allowing currently owned guns to sport shooters if they want to. But we know it's not happening in France, we can kiss goodbye to any category B semi-auto rifle save maybe for stuff like the Garand, SKS, Mini-14 and Benelli MR1. Farewell milsurp converted to semi-auto : Vz58, AK, FAL, etc. Farewell weapons that look like automatic weapons of war : AR15...
Farewell magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds, farewell internet sales.
Fuck this country, fuck this government, fuck every single politician in Europe, fuck socialism, fuck whoever votes for the left or even hold any left wing opinion. Fuck it all to hell. I wish only the worst diseases and the most painful suffering on those people and their families.

>>33301085
They all get their marching orders from the same place. That is why they sound like parrots, repeating the same shit over and over again. Reminds me of how cults recite their mantras.

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>>33302345
Join the fight fellow Frenchbros, we must grow united to fight these gun grabbing bastards, no more defeatism!

http://arpac.eu
http://unpact.net
https://firearms-united.com

And obviously if you want to give the EU the middle finger, vote FN!

>>33300910
Reminds me of how they convinced Europe to disarm in the 30s and that left them ripe for Hitler's Blitzkrieg.

>>33302345
Lol I'm French and there is absolutely nowhere they talk about it, It's just insane. I think it's the socialist Mafia again. But hey of course they push hit harder because they know PS is dead so they need to hurry before they leave the government. You say we will be very affected but you know we are a county in top 3 Europe with most guns. Also our laws are pretty nice... for now. We will see what happens. Maybe they won't ban all semi auto rifles.

Ffs. This shit ruined my day. Time to take the battle to the homefront at the norwrgian parlament.

>Be part of a hilariously corrupt union that puts even American politics to shame in that regard
>Uncollected bureaucrats dictate laws that citizens and governments of other nations must follow
>Entire currency goes tits up if even one member keels over, so everyone has to pitch in to keep the incompetent afloat
The fact the EU even exists is a source of bemusement for me.

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>tfw us germans force our gun laws on the rest of europe while only menial things are changed for us

>>33300910
Well, i live in Romania, you can't have stricter gun laws than this. To own a gun you must join a hunting club, pass psych exams, have NO criminal record. For example, if i were to be involved in a car accident and it wasn't my fault, i would still get this on my record and not allowed to own a gun EVER. And as a member of a hunting club, you can only own long rifles, and double barrel shotguns. To own a handgun you must be a POLITICIAN or military/ex-military/police/ex-police/judge. So basically if you are not in the system, you are cattle. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS! or you will never get them back.

In germany, the laws were just changed a week ago. The cuckshed parties, Greens and SPD, wanted to ban all handguns and "dangerous" looking long-guns. One of the greens even called a bolt-action repeater a "semi-automatic". They were BTFO instantly and told those changes would be completly useless. They did howewer change standards for gun-safes.

>>33301576
How delusional can you get? Things are never calm, they only go when they really need to arrest someone, else people throw stones and fridges at them.

>>33302155
>People that you pay to go and vote don't vote
Spread this, the EU will die in our lifetime.

Just buy illegal guns you dummy. If you look hard enough, it's certainly possible. But you have to really want it.

A friend of me managed to become hasguns at 17 or 18y/o illegally. If the police would find his stash now he'd be on the news, so it's certainly possible

>>33302553
>Romania
>have NO criminal record
Who would have thought that that may be a problem....

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>>33301576
>>33301637
look at this fucking shill. /k/ has paid anti-gun fags all over it. Support your gun-loving anons.

>>33302522
You're the ones who'll need guns the most in Merkels Germany.

>>33302522
i like how those gun laws are working as Turks try to cross into Netherlands with assloads of firearms from Germany just days ago

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>>33301731
>f you want purchase a gun, your data will be sent to all EU countries for checking.

Leftist blood must flow...

>>33302112
link to the poll please

>>33303780
http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/story/Waffenfreunde-bangen-um-ihre-Sturmgewehre-31279354

>>33303798
>In einem liberalen Land soll jeder das Recht auf eine Waffe haben und braucht sich nicht dafür zu rechtfertigen.
>86%

This why I love my country

>>33301576
I'm french living near marseille, and there are no-go zone, sorry fucktard

Is it gonna pass lads?

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>>33303874
it did pass in parliament, now it just needs to be signed by the Ministers and it will be in full effect

>>33303901
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK
by how much? Also I heard Finland was exempt from these laws. Is that true?

>>33303957
some 450 yay to 150 nay and 60(?) abstained, I sem to recall.
Which is not good, considering that the debate was made on an almost empty "plenum"

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>>33302095
Fedpol already confirmed that they will implement these laws.

We are fucked.

All fudds didn't want to listen whenever I talked about this. They all said "IT CANT BE IMPLEMENTED IN SWITZERLAND", i was laughed at whenever I said anything about this.

It's a tragedy.

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rip helvetica gun laws

What did the proposal contain anyways?

>>33304027
link to the statement please
One would be inclined to think that they were just waiting for the EU to get the blame.

>>33304067
>http://www.blick.ch/news/politik/schweiz-wird-laut-fedpol-eu-waffenrecht-uebernehmen-europa-halbiert-unsere-sturmgewehr-magazine-id6368831.html

quick summary of what the proposal entails?

>>33304027
>Fedpol already confirmed that they will implement these laws.
I need a source of this.

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RIP based laws

time to move to america

More proof that leftists are the scum of the fucking earth. Leftist partoes heavily supported this initiative.

>>33303561
Germans are actually arming themselves..and I´m not talking about pepperspray.

>>33304204
See

>>33304130

>>33301706
#czechout, my dude

>>33301576
>There are no no-go zones.
>There are areas that are left alone for reasons
>AKA no-go zones

And you call Americans delusional

>>33302397
merci pour les liens /k/ompatriote

>>33304506
When crime is involved they are not left alone, he is right. Unlike in places like Detroit where the police never go.

>>33303848
No it's a no-go zone for you, not for authorities.

>>33304130
Faggot they can't implement a new law by their own if it hasn't been approved by the parliament and/or the people. They can do shit. They just trying to scar the dumb ones "hur without schengen we don't have access to EU database".

>>33304544
there are some place in marseille with checkpoint where several sandnniggers stop everyone to check what's in their car, to see if your'ne not related to the police, it actually happened to me..

and the police doesn't do anything to preserve the "social peace"

also if it's a no-go zone for a normal civillian, it's just a no-go zone, the authorities don't do their job

>>33304544
It doesn't change the fact that it's a no-go zone you dumbfuck.

Don't you think there's a problem if the cops needs heavy gear and weapons to enter these zones ?

>>33302345
you know, for the moment you can still buy 30 round mags, so....

>>33300910
any way to watch the video?
did not have time to watch it life

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>>33304725
>you will have the same bs like the US has now with the arm braces
BRACE YOURSELF

>>33304725
Only 10 per weapon, and they are registered. You think the police is just going to confiscate your gun without looking for the magazines you bought with it?
Even if you did manage to keep some 30 rounders, what would you do with them? Can't take them to the range, because cops regularly check the place and there are plently of snitches everywhere.

>>33304774
>Only 10 per weapon, and they are registered.

What the fuck... Were are you from ?

>>33304774
the mags are not registered, some gunsmith just write them on your firearm authorisation, some just don't, and if you sell them you just have to remove them yourself from the paper..

I'know we're pretty fucked for the moment, maybe we will have some derogation for the people doing competitions

>>33304774
>registered magazines
This can't be real

>>33304798
>>33304830
>>33304798
Francuckistan

We also already have a capacity limit of 30 rounds for rifle mags, and 20 for handguns.
It all started in 2012 thanks to Bruno Le Roux and his "simplification of gun ownership".

>>33304774
This is when you need a 3D printer.

>>33301245
Leftcuck here, Fuck anyone who denies that (((they))) are just using gun control as a means to neuter the civilized world so nobody can question their rule.

>>33304537
>>33304544
>when crime
>not for authorities

see >>33304721
Fucking THIS THIS THIS

No-go for cops doesn't mean they just literally don't go there. It means they can't go there without fear of assault or injury if they aren't heavily fucking armed. Remember like six months back or whatever, they were after one of the terror suspects? I believe it was for the Brussels airport bombing. They ended up storming the building with SWAT, taking wounded, killing most of the suspects and a chunk of the fucking building blowing out. If that isn't 100% how it went it's damn close.

That isn't normal policing. That's not normal or okay. You're saying it isn't a no-go zone because occasionally they do basically Paramilitary operations. That's dumb as fuck, anon.

As to the Detroit bit, it's the same shit. They still go with a SWAT team. Doesn't mean the area isn't trash.

And finally, this.
>>33304694
>also if it's a no-go zone for a normal civillian, it's just a no-go zone, the authorities don't do their job

They work for the safety of the citizens. Not for political points. Not for eventually getting there. If there's whole zones you can't go to because of this bullshit, then the defensive needs of the citizens are not met.

>>33304908
>They work for the safety of the citizens. Not for political points. Not for eventually getting there. If there's whole zones you can't go to because of this bullshit, then the defensive needs of the citizens are not met.

the problem is, as a french citizen, if i defend myself i'm going for prison, and btw i'm loosing all my guns...we don't have ccw or anything

>>33304721
Well it's not even a no-go zone is it, a no-go zone would be certain parts of Ukraine. You can literally go there and not have a problem you just run the risk of causing trouble. Same with the police.

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>>33300910
Is this brit trolling, spreading propaganda or deluded?

https://twitter.com/vickyford/status/841720073156988928

>>33305080
>Found the sandnigger

>>33305132
Gun grabbers keep repeating that their tightened laws somehow preseve legal gun owners, or even improve things for them. That's what they were claiming in France back in 2012 as well.

>>33304774
Stop spreading disinfo you dick. The magazines themselves are registered with an upper limit of 10 mags but NOT their capacity. Just buy 8 30 rounds mags and 2 10 round mags and keep being a good citizen until SHTF.

>>33305132
She kept saying "this is a good thing for shooters!"
In 2 years with the upcoming mooselimb attacks, they'll take away all semi-auto guns.
In 4 years... repeat ad infinitum.

The second amendment didn't appear out of nowhere guys, we fought for it. And not by sending e-mails to rich politics or checking little papers at the polls.

>>33305051
Yeah. That's the point. They stop you from doing it and then refuse to do it themselves, or are told not to.

Fuck Liberals.

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>>33305177
It's what they always claim. You get to keep your rights! At least, the rights we say are actually rights.

>classic pic related

>>33300910
Where can I find a list who voted what way?

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>>33305287
https://twitter.com/EUgunrights/status/841742362103672835

https://twitter.com/EUgunrights/status/841734993353297925

>>33305184
Never said the capacity of magazines was registered. Learn to read. What I said is having them is pointless if you can't use them openly anymore. SHTF? Yeah, you wish. As long as the socialist nanny state exists and faggots can have free welfare/healthcare, etc without having to work, nothing is ever going to change.

>>33305132
it's the delusion that thighter regulated (legal) gun laws will prevent shit happening with (illegal) guns

vicky seemed like a saving grace at first, but now it turns out she is just as a britcuck as everyone else

>>33305307
You phrased it like "muh cops are gonna take away my 30 rounders".

Tu sais quoi voter le 23 avril.

>>33301584
Same with Finland. As far as I know, pretty much nothing changed for us except for deactivated guns.

>>33305301
Page 13 of the .doc
>For
Mostly spics, germans, french and scandinavians
>Against
Mostly slavs, because they know how gun control affected their history, they lived and died in it.

The adopted text:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=AMD&format=PDF&reference=A8-0251%2F2016&secondRef=107-107&language=EN

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Good bye my friend.

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>>33305394
>mfw the 1860 henry rifle will now be in the same category as "high capacity" assault machineguns

>>33305394
Can you buy them pinned or are they outright banned?

>>33305132
We need to launch a crowdfunding. And then put a bounty for her.

Then Pakis and Pajeets in London will rape her to death.

>>33301790

That won't help, Obama isn't president anymore.

>>33305301
>"In a civilized country, no weapons should be allowed."

Except for the state right?

>"Hunting is a culture of death."

Hunting was an essential part of basically every European culture.

>>33301080
Czexit when?

>>33305500
>Hunting was an essential part of basically every European culture.

Not to mention an important part of wildlife conservation efforts...

>>33305555
>>33305500
That's spics for you. Naive, lazy, uneducated people who got mixed up with Moors for centuries and degraded the remnants of their European genes.

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What exactly was decided? Quick rundown pls

How will Switzerland respond? This shit is tyrannical.

>>33301080
>Unless they leave EU they'll be forced to accept these directives.

Yes and no.
Member states have to implement their flavor of it, can grandfather things in and have the power to get around it through being sneaky as fuck.
CZ already suggested making gun ownership "essential to the protection & defense of the country", which by being so would legally allow them to go around the current EU proposal. This is because member states maintain full sovereignty when it comes to matters of defense.

>>33305585
Exactly what was planned from the beginning

>Semi-auto rifles that were converted from automatic are in category A6
>same thing for rifles with a folding or collapsible stock and a total length of less than 60 cm
>semi-auto rifles that look like automatic weapons of war are in category A7
>there is a magazine limit of 10 rounds for rifles and 20 rounds for handguns
>if you put a magazine of more than that in a gun, then it becomes A6
>internet sales are banned
>each member state can decide if they want to allow reservists or sport shooters who actively participate in competitions if they can own A6 and A7 weapons or not
>increased medical checks

>>33305482
They're not banned now but they will be when individual nations decide to apply the directives. Unless you get a special authorization from the State to shoot in sport competitions, no more high cap mags.

>reservists are exempt from the bullshit rules

Kiitos Mestari.

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>>33305635
>buy an AR "pistol"
>quickly remove the buttstock when the popo comes checking
>enjoy 20 rounds magazines

>>33305640
Better hold on to them then.

>>33305635
>category A6
>category A7
I know literally fuckall about Eurofag weapon laws but just seeing shit like this tells me all I need to know.
>read; it's a convoluted, tiered heap of bullshit

At least here, aside form cuck states, you only have to worry if something has a giggleswitch or has a non-NFA-safe barrel length.

>>33305660
>police arrest you because they don't understand that buffer tube is needed for it to work and not just for attaching a stock

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>>33305664
And hide them in the attic.

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>>33301798
>5000 euro

Top kek

>This is even a discussion

Fucking rip eurofags

>>33305679
Alright quick rundown on eurocuck laws then :

Category A : military weapons banned for civilians
Category B : handguns, and scary semi-auto rifles
Category C : Hunting shit
Category D : shotguns with one round per barrel and antique weapons/black powder repros

Basically most weapons that used to be in category B will find themselves in category A, which is normally banned, but to pretend they are not actually banned things, they plannet exceptions for some people to have the authorizations to own guns in category A, but only if the state allows it. Cuck countries like France, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc, most likely won't allow such a thing. Meaning that most semi-auto rifles are effectivelly banned in the EU.

>>33305679
In France we have A1 (very high cap semi-auto rifles), A2 (full auto rifles and explosives), B1 (handguns), B2 (semi-auto rifles with non restricted caliber), B4 (semi-auto rifles with restricted caliber), C1A (2+1 semi-auto rifles), C1B (bolt-action and pump-action rifles/shotguns), D1 (smooth shotguns with one shot per barrel), D2 (everything else)

:^)

>>33305711
>Top kek

He's full of shit though. It's 3750-4200 euros depending on how long you're willing to wait.

And the problem is that they're usually imported from the USA.

FN-H is state owned (or rather by the Walloon government, not the federal government), and to prevent making waves with the politicians they do not directly sell their "evil looking" stuff to civilians. Since their further existence depends on it, they are wise not to fuck with the politicians.

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Just remember /k/omrades
Defeat is not an option!

>>33300910
I think I'll buy 50 mags before the directive comes into effect.

>>33305660
there are no AR pistols in europe

that's a purely US made up thing

>>33304228
I gladly welcome your type of refugee.

>>33300910
We have one of the best gun laws in the entire world, but EU simply has to fuck it up because "gunz r evil 'n think of the children"

>>33301070
The government is trying to figure out how to bypass the regulation, but only right way is simply to show the middle finger to eurobolsheviks, and ignore that ban altogether.

FUCK EUSSR!

>>33305301
We know when the state was trying to disarm its population in the past, it was always the sign of rise to the dictatorship.

>>33301584
This is what we Hope for, but it's not in effect yet. Also this means you'd have to take part in military trainings, so bad Luck if you aren't healthy enough And your employer won't let you take leave. OH And you'll be probably taking your vacation time. Just ask your wife if she's ok with your family never taking long vacation together So you could keep your funs.

>>33301912
If you own magazine for over 10 rounds (for long rifle) and it's found by autorities, you'd weapon licence Will be rewoked, unless you have permit as a sport shooter etc. It doesn't need to be in rifle to be illegal.

>>33305725
Black poster rifles Will be in category C - with gun licence.

why they fuck do the eu leftists insist on ruining Swiss gun laws

https://twitter.com/EUgunrights/status/841774323799068672

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How should they enforce this rule?!

Here in germany they are allowed to check your safe and weapons. But it barely happens because there are only a few guys who do it and some million legal gun owners.

There is no fucking way this will come or will be enforced.

And what if i own several 30rd mags, am i now an illigal in my own state?

>>33305132
Just look at how fucking many MEPs were present - fucking none!!! All MEPs that didn't show up for voting should get their fucking salary cut and no more bodyguard service and no more security service for all of them!

>>33304027
Those fedpol twats can't do shit if we launch a referendum. The fucking piano player will shit in her pants when she'll have to explain to the EU that Switzerland cannot apply the directive as it is but still wants to be a member of Schengen.

>>33312315

yeah, my thoughts exactly.

there are to many magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rds in germany.
Everything will stay the same:
you are allowed to have 30rd mags but you should only load 10rds into it at the range.

There is no way to control this.

>>33312315
Its not illegal to own the mags. You just loose your guns if you do.

Hassan with his illegal AK can have as many 30 rounders he like

>>33305132
Vicky Ford is a fucking joke, same goes for Julian King. Vicky Ford told me that law-abiding shooters will be able to continue with their sport without problem. When I told her that law-abiding Jews also could continue with their lives as usual in nazi Germany as long as they wore a yellow star and registered at the local Gestapo station she stopped replying.

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>>33312393
>When I told her that law-abiding Jews also could continue with their lives as usual in nazi Germany as long as they wore a yellow star and registered at the local Gestapo station she stopped replying.
kek
stealing that analogy

>>33300910
Goo that this finally went through, now Europe will see what effective gun control does just like here in australia.

To all Europeans on the board, we celebrate your step towards community safety and a brighter, safer future for our children.

>>33310158
>It doesn't need to be in rifle to be illegal.
it also say any mag over 10 rounds for any semi auto gun. so you better melt down those fg42 mags your collecting, or you loose your hunting rifles.

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>>33305660
>year 2525
>look at this wonderful pistol from the third world war
>its a browning m2
>mfw history will be forever fucked thanks to ATFs retarded classification of guns.

>>33303541
Go away Janoş

>>33312417
Gr8 b8.

Fuck off you statist faggot. Ausfailia is an orewellian nanny state.

RIP SWITZERLAND GUN RIGHTS

>>33312393
At least she replied to you. I tried contacting her in the summer to express my displeasure in what she was doing. This was pre-brexit, and her (and others) lack of response made up my mind which way I voted.

>>33312909
Must be because I'm so good looking.

https://firearms-united.com/2017/03/15/eugunban-outcome-vote/ does this mean we won?

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>>33303798
TRITTST IM MORGENROT DAHER

>>33313026
No. The directive passed.

Swiss gun laws are fucked eternally.

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>>33313063
SEH ICH DICH IM STRAHLENMEER

swiss are pussies who will take the big eu dick and do nothing

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There was a protest in Prague today

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>>33313010
I know how you know, but how did she know?

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=AMD&format=PDF&reference=A8-0251/2016&secondRef=107-107&language=EN

(ii) in category A, the following points are added:
"6. Automatic firearms which have been converted into semi-automatic firearms, without prejudice to Article 7(4a).
7. Any of the following centre-fire semi-automatic firearms:
(a) short firearms which allow the firing of more than 21 rounds without reloading, if:
(i) a loading device with a capacity exceeding 20 rounds is part of that firearm; or
(ii) a detachable loading device with a capacity exceeding 20 rounds is inserted into it;
(b) long firearms which allow the firing of more than 11 rounds without reloading, if:
(i) a loading device with a capacity exceeding 10 rounds is part of that firearm; or
(ii) a detachable loading device with a capacity exceeding 10 rounds is inserted into it.

I really want to see how each country will adjust it's laws to comply with this. I wonder if there would be possibility to use a drum mag on a borrowed rifle.

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>>33312315
>>33312370
It'll happen slowly and over-time

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>eurobros who have already strict gun laws get even more regulation because "they're bad mmkay"

This really grinds my gears

>>33312370
>Hallo Police station? Herr Hansmann here at the shooting club! Ich muss report something: there are zese guys that have high capacity magazines bitte send die Gestapo schnell!!!

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>>33313102
DICH DU HOCHERHABENER HERRLICHER !

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>>33316962
WENN DER ALPENFIRN SICH RÖTET

>>33316579
>*Herr Goldstein

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'M DONE WITH THIS FUCKING SHITHOLE SOCIALIST COUNTRY THAT FRANCE IS
I'M OUT
PICK A COUNTRY FOR ME ,I DARE YOU

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>>33317002
BETET, FREIE SCHWEIZER, BETET !

>>33317145

Come to America, Anon.
We'd love to have you as long as you're not a Muslim.

Does this effect us britcucks? Half of the shit on that list isnt legal over here anyway.

>no semi autos you baby killing super terrorist
>here's a .50 cal though, as long as you load one round at a time

>>33317145
le pen will save france

>>33318014

>Does this effect us britcucks
The deactivation standards will affect you, the rest of it probably doesn't since you already have tighter laws.

>>33317231
He's not black either so i don't think he would be welcome

>>33318238
>>33318014
No it won't, not even the deactivation standards because we already have the highest deactivation standards already.

So what are the chances of Le Pen crashing the EU with no survivors now that Fillon got charged?

>>33300910
Directive may not affect (the majority of) us Finns - "high capacity" magazines will be legal under the new directive for sport/reservist shooting, and most semi-automatic rifle permits are under that clause already.

Shame about those few people who bought theirs for hunting, because after the new directive takes effect they won't be able to practice with 30-rounders.