Couple of things about Glocks. Can you tell when they're

>Seems like a bad design.

Which is why the gadget perfected Glock.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gadget-a-striker-control-device

>>33257868
>Can you tell when they're cocked?
you can tell if its cocked or not by trigger position

>>33257868
Not being a retard is uaually a safe bet when shooting a glock

OP probably shouldn't own one.

PS.
>nice b8. Got me to respond. Enjoy your (you)

>>33257896
This

>>33257896
This.

>>33257877
>>33257868

Same fag trying to get fags to go to his faggy website. What a fag.

When it's cocked and there is a round in the chamber the extractor sticks out more than when there is no round in the chamber

you can feel the difference blindfolded

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>>33257868

Glocks are "Safe Action" so they are never "cocked" pulling the trigger moves the striker back and "cocks" the pistol as you pull it, kind of like a revolver in double action. There is not enough energy in the firing pin to set off the firearm without pulling the trigger

so they can't just "go off"

that's why there is no striker indicator like there is on a Springfield XD, you don't need one on a GLOCK since it cocks by pulling the trigger, it's also why you don't need the grip safety like you do on the XD, the XD is carried cocked all the time, a glock is not

>>33257868
>Any motion that pulls the trigger by accident also disengages the safety'.

you mean just like every double action revolver?

>>33258538
xds fucking suck

>>33258580
>xds fucking suck

I don't like them either

>>33257868
>Pulling the trigger discharges the gun

This is not a design flaw.

GLOCKS are the best, deal with it OP

>>33258538
>There is not enough energy in the firing pin to set off the firearm without pulling the trigger
That is incorrect. The Striker is under constant tension and contains enough power to discharge a round, it's been tested and verified by different armorers.

It's not really an issue because you have a firing pin block, however, the firing pin block isn't as robust as it could be, to be honest, but obviously it is good enough since there are no real reports of glocks just going off without the trigger being pressed.

Here are two truths:
The Glock is not perfect.
Nearly all modern handguns are extremely safe.

>>33257868
theres a round in chamber indicator on the right, a lever will protrude slightly

>>33258802
>That is incorrect. The Striker is under constant tension and contains enough power to discharge a round, it's been tested and verified by different armorers.

there is not supposed to be enough energy in the system without finishing the cocking action by pulling the trigger, that's part of the safety

pls provide proof the striker can set off the primer from the position it is in pre trigger pull

>>33258855
Just shake your Glock. You will hear a "rattke". This is the striker. If you shake it hard enough while a round is in chamber you gonna have slamfire. Thats why many cops shot themselves.

>>33258872
>Just shake your Glock. You will hear a "rattke". This is the striker. If you shake it hard enough while a round is in chamber you gonna have slamfire. Thats why many cops shot themselves.

buuuuuuuuullllshit

if the striker were that loose it would prove my point it's not coked, anyway there is a safety that sits in front of the striker and does not move till the trigger is pulled

the only way a GLOCK can go off is if you pull the trigger

"firing pin saftey"

https://us.glock.com/technology/safe-action

>>33258791
>GLOCKS are the best

At what?

>>33258905

at being guns

>>33258915
They're not even good at it, let alone being the best at anything. Glock = Block

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>>33258999
Trips confirms truth

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>>33258872
>If you shake it hard enough while a round is in chamber you gonna have slamfire.

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>>33258872

A loaded Glock is cocked and Glocked

>>33258855
Not looking it up again just google it yourself.

A GLOCK will not go off unless you pull the fucking trigger, they are probably the safest firearm commonly carried

>>33259029
Sig = nig(ger)

>>33258999
Nice opinion. For most people's needs, theyre as good as you can get out of the box, which explains their market share.

>>33259073
>A GLOCK will not go off unless you pull the fucking trigger, they are probably the safest firearm commonly carried

That can literally be said about all modern handguns.

>>33259097
>That can literally be said about all modern handguns.

but a GLOCK does it without a bunch of switches or levers to move on the side of the firearm or different trigger pulls from one shot to another or any other bullshit

want to fire it? pull the trigger, end of story

no decocking or lever to push first

>>33258999
They are the best mid priced carry guns. There is a lot of bias in the gun world. People say things like "the Sig p328 is the best ccw firearm on the market." Bias. Sao with a manual safety is a preference. And what if I don't want 9mm? What if I want a single stack .45 carry gun? I'm sol if I'm a Sig fanboy.

Glock has something for everyone. Every gunstore will have them. The aftermarket for them is probably the best out of any brand.

>>33259136
>What if I want a single stack .45 carry gun?

sig P220 is single stack .45

>>33259158
>sig P220 is single stack .45

it's the size of a double stack though, always wondered why it is so thick

>>33259219
>it's the size of a double stack though,

true

>>33257868
>Any motion that pulls the trigger by accident also disengages the safety'.
Nope. It also needs to cover the entire trigger to depress the safety lever.

Which means that things such as clothing or part of the holsters catching on the side of the trigger is not going to make the gun fire.

That's the whole point. Trigger safety is not supposed to protect you from your own incompetence, it's supposed to prevent accidental discharges that would be beyond your control.

>>33258905
Marketing.

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>>33259136
Except grips made for human hands...

Are Glocks good for lefties?

>>33259448
>Are Glocks good for lefties?

yes the new ones even have a swapable mag release for left handed people

>>33259448
Yeah.

You can easily hit the mag release with your index finger just as easily as a right-handed person would with a thumb, or swap it to the other side on gen4. That said as a leftie I actually prefer the right-handed mag release, got used to it. Also, gen3 mags are not compatible with gen4 glocks if you swap the mag release.

You won't be able to release the slide stop, so you will have to slingshot instead. Not an issue since it's the preferable method anyways.

No safety so it's not a factor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI0pBp45xv8

>>33259439
Have you considered not having tiny child hands?

>>33259042
>>33259059
>noguns confirmed
Its true, the same goes for the AR-15 because of the missing firing pin spring

Post a gun the same price or less than a GLOCK that's any better

oh wait you cant

>>33259815
Every AK-47

>>33257896
This

>>33259819

any decent AK costs more than a GLOCK anon

>>33259439
My hands are small but i make it work.

I vote for Glock

>>33259956

me too

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>>33259815

>>33260180

jesus wept

>>33257868
A gun designed for duty/carry/self-defense shouldn't really have a manual safety IMO. The fewer steps needed to draw and fire the weapon the better in a high-pressure life or death situation. Trigger safety keeps the gun from going off if it's just dropped, that's what it's designed for. You should always assume that a GLOCK (or other similar carry / service pistol) is cocked and loaded, it would be silly to carry it in any other condition. It takes less than a second to drop the magazine and rack the slide if you want to fingerfuck it.

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>>33257868
I agree with you about the safety, but asking whether or not a striker fired pistol is cocked is laughable, so much so i have no choice but to call you a noguns faggot and tell you to lurk more and also kill yourself

>>33261009
>I agree with you about the safety, but asking whether or not a striker fired pistol is cocked is laughable,

Springfield XDs are cocked all the time and they are striker fire

>>33258872
This guy knows what's up, everybody else ITT is either memeing or is actually retarted

>>33261027
It's a retarded question to ask, since it implies that striker fired pistols can be DA/SA

And no, im pretty sure the XD is "half-cocked", like other striker fired handguns. Although I freely admit I may be wrong about that, a fully cocked striker gun is part of what makes the Hudson 9 unique

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>>33259389

Yet people still shot themselves simply because a leather holster folded, and engaged the trigger.

>>33261111
>And no, im pretty sure the XD is "half-cocked",

wrong

the XD is SAO single action only

that's why it has the 1911 grip safety, dry fire one and put your finger on the striker sticking out the back of the pistol, when you fire it all the striker does is fall forward like a cocked hammer

GLOCKs half cock like you are saying but XDs only release the striker

>>33261157

Please explain to me how a single action only striker fired pistol can he half cocked.

>>33261157
>>33261188

Nevermind I looked it up.

>>33261111

some striker fired pistols are DAO double action only and can double tap a primer that does not go off with a second pull of the trigger just like a revolver, striker fired pistols can be SAO or DAO but the most famous, the GLOCK is neither so people think they are all that way but it's not true

Some Walther striker fired pistols even have a decocker

>>33261202
>Some Walther striker fired pistols even have a decocker

fucking walther man

>>33257868
glocks play by big boy rules, if youre not a big boy, dont own one.

/thread

>>33259118
That's the whole problem.

Anything gets into the bangswitch cover, whether it's a boogerpicker or not, it goes off.

>>33259819
>costs more
>not a handgun
>"but muh wasr"
>"but muh I.O."

nope.

CONFIRMED NOGUNS

>>33261409
>Anything gets into the bangswitch cover, whether it's a boogerpicker or not, it goes off.

just like every double action revolver ever made

>>33261409
>use a kydex holster.

holy shit im a wizard.

>>33261409
>Anything gets into the bangswitch cover, whether it's a boogerpicker or not, it goes off.

same thing with sigs and shit loads of other guns, pull the trigger and they tend to fire

>>33260180
>Hi-Patriot

>>33259118
>want to fire it? pull the trigger, end of story
Plenty of guns before it and after it are also DAO, from Beretta 92D (DAO, hard to find but widely regarded as having an amazing trigger) to tons of revolvers, obviously.

>>33261452
>same thing with sigs and shit loads of other guns, pull the trigger and they tend to fire

DESIGN FLAW!!

>>33261452
>same thing with sigs and shit loads of other guns, pull the trigger and they tend to fire
Unless the safety is on. Which the glock does not have.

>>33262189
>Unless the safety is on. Which the glock does not have.

there are DAO sigs with no external safety levers

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>>33262189
>Unless the safety is on. Which the glock does not have.

?

Many sigs are DA/SA and have no "safety"

pull the trigger and it goes bang

a decocker is not the same thing as a safety

>>33262189
>Unless the safety is on. Which the glock does not have.

hello noguns

>>33262189
A Sig does not have a safety.
A revolver does not have a safety.

>>33257896

You can also tell when a round is in the chamber, cause the extractor is pushed outwards.

>>33262295
>A Sig does not have a safety.

a Sig (like a GLOCK) has a drop safety, but it moves out of the way when you pull the trigger

if it had no safety and you dropped it and it landed on the hammer it would go off

GOCKS have a safety that blocks the firing pin/striker until the trigger is pulled for the same reason

>>33258538
Huh, I reverse image searched that and there's an album of nudies.

>>33262331
>Huh, I reverse image searched that and there's an album of nudies.

it happens

>>33262314
Obviously it has internal safeties.
You know what I meant.

>>33262295
You have to specify which Sig. You can't just say "Sigs don't have safeties" because many of them do.

You CAN say "Glocks don't have safeties" because there is no commercially available Glock that has an external safety.

>>33262254
You're either retarded or playing a game of semantics. I think everyone on this board understands when we're talking about Glocks not having a safety, we're talking about an external, manual safety.

You're a complete faggot if you're just trying to mince words and you should just abandon any argument you have, since you're playing word games.

Just like when someone talks about a 1911 style safety, no one is actually talking about the Grip Safety. When we talk about the Beretta safety we're not talking about the firing pin block.

Yes, the Glock has a "safety trigger" and a "safe" action, but it does not have a manual, external safety.

So, to the point, if you take a Glock and you put your finger on the trigger and you pull it, it fires. If anything catches the trigger and the trigger leaf and pulls it, it will fire.

Take a gun with an EXTERNAL MANUAL SAFETY SWITCH (Beretta 92, PX4, 1911s, P229s, etc), WITH THE SAFETY ON, and pull the trigger, or shove a dick in the trigger guard, it will not fire.

That is the point.

Also I have more guns than you.

>>33262608
>You CAN say "Glocks don't have safeties" because there is no commercially available Glock that has an external safety.

it has an external safety, it's located in the middle of the trigger and must be disengaged to fire the weapon

>>33262608
>Yes, the Glock has a "safety trigger" and a "safe" action, but it does not have a manual, external safety.

neither do most sigs

>>33262608
>So, to the point, if you take a Glock and you put your finger on the trigger and you pull it, it fires. If anything catches the trigger and the trigger leaf and pulls it, it will fire.

same is true for most sigs

>>33262639
>>33262625
The trigger safety is a shitty safety then. If you want to call it an external manual safety, it's a shitty, shitty safety. It's a terrible safety. It's literally the worst possible safety since it doesn't prevent 99% of accidental trigger contact NDs.

Look up "Glock leg." Look up ND rates after agencies switch to Glock. Look up pictures of people who used leather holsters and ND'd the Glock.

If you want to argue an SA/DA gun vs Glock on pulling the trigger, the Glock has a 5.5lb trigger standard and most SA/DA guns will be around 12lbs.

So the SA/DA is then "Twice as safe."

Look, you guys love Glocks. Great. I like Glocks too. They're fine. I own one. But there are valid criticisms of them that you should learn to accept.

>>33259448
Very. My dad is lefty and has nothing but glocks and has no problems

>>33262672
>So the SA/DA is then "Twice as safe."

So go put this in your GLOCK if you don't like it

http://www.rockyourglock.com/custom/GLO-7412BK1.htm

>>33262672
>The trigger safety is a shitty safety then. If you want to call it an external manual safety, it's a shitty, shitty safety. It's a terrible safety. It's literally the worst possible safety since it doesn't prevent 99% of accidental trigger contact NDs.

if you don't want your gun to go off you should not be pulling the trigger anon

i suggest you never buy a revolver

>>33262723
>triggered
>mfw taking the bait
K. I'm done. Seeya.

There's a reason why NDs among issued fire arms went way up after the adoption of the Glock.

SA/DA and Revolver DA pulls are around 12lbs. Double the Glock. You can also holster them with your thumb on the hammer to feel any resistance if there was accidental trigger pressure.

There's a reason NY cops get Glocks that have 8 or 12lb DA triggers.

There's a reason.

>>33262847
>There's a reason why NDs among issued fire arms went way up after the adoption of the Glock.

proof pls

>>33262847
>There's a reason NY cops get Glocks that have 8 or 12lb DA triggers.

yeah the same reason they banned mags over 7 rounds in NY

they're retarded

>>33262723
>seriously suggesting a super heavy DA revolver trigger pull is any way close to a Glock trigger pull

Wew lad

>>33257868
>Seems like a bad design.

FUCKER TALKED SHIT ABOUT MY PLASTIC9

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>33262863
Some examples:

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-sheriff-guns-20150614-story.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/dcpolice/deadlyforce/police4page1.htm

You might argue that these cases were fundamentally training issues, and I would generally agree with you. However, bear in mind that both of these departments are large and well-funded and that their police are already trained to a higher standard than the national average. If anything, these two cases support the points previously raised by different anons about Glocks and safety.

Out of all modern firearms, Glocks/Glock clones are among the most unforgiving of mistakes in handling. Yes, it is true that they will only go off if their triggers are pulled. The same applies to a cocked and loaded single-action gun with no manual safety or its manual safety disenagaged, which most people recognize to be an unsafe configuration for carry even if the single-action gun in question has a firing pin block/drop safety.

>>33262305
Starting at gen 3.

>>33262874
this

>>33262331
yeah, really gross ones