How does /k/ feel about women in combat? Do women have the potential

>>33228945
>soldiers
>good
No such thing.

I'm lonely and I wish I had a girlfriend

No.

I don't give a shit what MMA fighter or weightlifter the Left trots around like they're somehow the standard. Physical fitness standards mean jack shit, honestly, even ignoring the fact that PT standards for women are must easier.

Your average woman will NEVER be able to do the shit a man can do. She cannot piss and shit in a fucking jar while in a transport chasing down a routing enemy. She cannot vault an 8 ft fence with 40 lbs of gear on her back unassisted. She cannot carry a 190 lb comrade, again with kit, through a fucking firefight unassisted. And if she ever gets into a situation where it is hand-to-hand combat, I don't give a shit if the guy about to fight her is a 5'6" Chinese manlet: 9 times out of 10, he will fucking destroy her.

It's fucking biology. Men are meant for physical labor and combat. Women are made for homekeeping. There are things women do better than men, combat is not fucking one of them.

I read a study once showing how even women in non-infantry combat roles aren't as good. There are very few female fighter pilots because their reflexes aren't as fast.

You can hold up pictures of Ronda Rousey all day and act like that's what the average woman who joins the military looks like but you and I both know you're full of shit. The average woman who joins the military is just that: an average woman. And an average woman will ALWAYS be more of a liability than an asset to any fireteam she's assigned to.

Putting other people's lives at risk, your own fucking countrymen for Christ's sake, just so you can satisfy your infantile "teehee gurl power!" fantasy and give your father the son he never had is selfish, asinine, and ridiculous.

All of this politically correct bullshit about women in combat roles, trannies and fags, and SJW-culture in regards to being mean to recruits and shit will come to an end the day the United States gets in an actual shooting war with something that's halfway competent.

Oh go away.
Every day with this fucking topic.

>>33229072
>actual shooting war

so never?

>>33229072
rekt

>>33228945
sauserino pretty pls

>>33229072
To add to this, my father was a firefighter for 36 years. He planned on staying on longer, but actually resigned over an issue with a woman being allowed to join his fire company.

She was a black, lesbian woman. Perfect poster child material.

She also scored much worse on all of her tests than every other applicant, even the female ones. She had absolutely no business being a firefighter. And yet my father was told by the (black) fire chief to either hire her or he'll be fired. So my father retired. Affirmative action and political correctness has its place in the office and other comfy, cushy industries. Not in anything that is a matter of life or death.

Think of it this way, if it came down to it, would you want Shanequa trying to pull your ass from a fire when she could barely even pull the fire hose? Would you want Little Miss Soldier grabbing your ass by your collar and trying to pull you out of the line of fire of a MG after you'd been tagged?

A friend of mine recently joined the Marine Corps. She honestly thinks she belongs there. During one of the prep PT classes or whatever you do before basic with a bunch of other enlistees, she actually complained that it was "unfair" that she was expected to lift the same weights as the men, because she "isn't strong enough for that like a man." And guess what? They let her sit out those exercises while the men made up for it. They had to lift logs and carry them in a team of six. But, because she got to sit out, only five men were expected to lift it and carry it and compete with other teams that got to keep their six people.

When the day comes, the United States military will be the team of five trying to do the job that requires a team of six. China, or Russia, or whoever, will have a team of six.

>>33229072
>>33229072
>>33229072

God I love it when anon drops reality bombs without sounding like a fuming retard.

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>>33229072
>>33229128

>>33229128
>They let her sit out those exercises while the men made up for it. They had to lift logs and carry them in a team of six. But, because she got to sit out, only five men were expected to lift it and carry it and compete with other teams that got to keep their six people.
this. women in combat are nothing but deadweight. maybe theyre useful on a submarine as ballast but not in a firefight

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>>33228945
A handful of them have the potential.

For the most part you can expect >>33229072 and >>33229128 instead. Murphy's law. Plus the handful of women that do have the potential also have lots and lots of other options, soldiers don't really get paid well or anything, they can do better and work a lot less for it, take a lot less risks for it.

It's not like every man is born a perfect soldier either, but a lot more of them have the combination of mental and physical characteristics needed.

Plus there's a lot of overhead just in getting a huge organization like the US Army ready to handle even just the tiny trickle that could conceivably do the job. There are all sorts of things that have to be thought out ahead of time or will become distractions in the field. Once they spent a lot of time and money getting ready for women in the force, the urge to lower the bar until they can actually recruit enough women to make that seem worthwhile is nearly irresistible.

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>>33228945
Fucking faggot op. I was hoping for a webm, no a fucking pic.

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No

>>33229120
ArabsExposed 16 09 29 Apolonia

>>33229316
aint opening that

>>33229425
Me neither, but you wanted the source. I found it by making a reverse image search that brought me to a /r/ thread.

>>33229316
thank you kind sir

>>33228945

Of course they have; aiming and firing a modern gun can be done by 7-year-olds

The problem lies in strength, carrying capacity and monthly periods that can have a significant effect on their health/stamina

As for bravery, I cannot say, those Kurdish female fighters seem like they are just as brave as every other man, females fought bravely in WW2 on the Sovjet side, I think it is about culture more than biology

>>33228945
>Guys who get kidnapped in war are usually sexually assaulted, abused, and then beheaded, not in that order
>Imagine what happens to a female combatant when she tears her ACL for the 14th time and shes on her cycle.

>>33229425
why not?

>>33229072

>You can hold up pictures of Ronda Rousey all day and act like that's what the average woman who joins the military looks like but you and I both know you're full of shit.

Except the average man (who does regular sports) would absolutely DESTROY her, unless she does some incredibly lucky wrestling lock to make him pass out, which still is absurd.

The first time I got attacked by a woman I was scared, because she was as tall as me 6ft (she played college level hockey).. After the initial fear was gone and I got hit a few times, I "gently" pushed her away and she flew against a wall.

>There are things women do better than men, combat is not fucking one of them.

The only thing women are better at than men, is manipulating the opposite sex with sex.

>>33229072
>Women are at much higher risk of tearing ACL and muscle degeneration
>Testosterone is what allows guys who never go to the gym to be able to bench and squat 2X as much as a dedicated female body builder
>The standard Ruck weight is around 80 lbs, which is 2/3s of a girls body weight, nvm an actual combat load with weapons and gear
>No Woman will be able to carry a comrade (MALE OR FEMALE) through a firefight, nvm staying effective and combat ready
>Imagine the morale effect when a girl is captured by insurgents during combat in the war on terror.

The only position females should be occupying in the military is rear echelon medical technicians, because they are far better at treating and comforting physiological trauma.

>>33229072
I agree with you. Women in combat positions are terrible. But I'll go further, women in first responder roles are just as bad. Going through police academy we had female recruits that would just plain give up, and the men had to pick up the slack. They scored the lowest in firearms training, they were terrible drivers, and they'd freeze up at mock exercises.

Even after the academy women officers were useless. One got overpowered and handcuffed by a suspect, another accidentally shot a handcuffed suspect in the face with a taser while he was sitting down on the curb, and another had accidentally locked herself in the back seat of her patrol car during a traffic stop. I even had a female officer clear a building with me on an open door call and she had her gun trained on my back the entire time, until I made her go back to her car. I refuse to trust a female officer, they're retarded.

>>33229578
>arabs

i'm sure some women would be capable in combat/grunt roles. obviously, the majority of female applicants probably will not meet the standards that a male applicant is subject to, but i'm sure there's that 1 out of 100 or 1000 that will make the cut.

I'd be concerned that captured female soldiers would be more likely to be raped than male soldiers, and the risk of forced impregnation is there too.

>>33229666
and?

>>33229786
there's probably subliminar shit trying to convert you while you watch their porn-

>>33229607
>Except the average man (who does regular sports) would absolutely DESTROY her

Rousey is an Olympic level Judo player. Unless you're talking like at least a Division I college wrestler I don't think they would destroy her. An average college wrestler who is in season may beat her no-gi.

Your average guy with no grappling experience is much more likely to get destroyed.

>>33228945
Women don't belong in combat, but if we're going to allow them in the military, they need to have entirely segregated operations. They can not perform at the same level as men, so they shouldn't be in a situation where they can drag men down or impair real combat operations.

The world is peaceful enough right now, and America is rich enough, that we can afford to entertain the delusion that women can be the same as men if only given a chance, but as soon as times get harder, or we go to actual war, that's going to change. Women and fags won't be allowed in the military and they won't want to serve anyway. Also, >>33229072 is 100% correct.

>>33228945
who is this i want to jack off to her

>>33228945
Can I get a sauce on that, sauce boss?

>>33230179
>>33230220
are you guys braindead>>33229316

>>33229128
>Affirmative action and political correctness has its place in the office and other comfy, cushy industries.
It doesn't have a place in those industries either. This is how the 2008 financial crisis happened. Niggers giving loans to other niggers who didn't deserve them.

>>33230115
>Rousey is an Olympic level Judo player. Unless you're talking like at least a Division I college wrestler I don't think they would destroy her.

A Brazilian dyke destroyed her, nearly knocked her out with the first punch. She couldn't even get a single punch in or defend herself from solid punches that connected with her face, like a typical girl. Rousey is a weakling princess.

>>33229666
AV actress is latino, lol

>>33230304
what's her name?

>>33229315
>she flops face first into the ditch
I laffed

>>33230285
A Brazilian tranny, but the point stands. Rousey was known for being a lazy show-off but even a woman with state-of-the-art training couldn't take a man who simply does physical labor.

>>33230115

>Rousey is an Olympic level Judo player.

You say that like its a real life factor.

You ever been in a fight?

There is a reason why low kicks arent allowed in bitch MMA/UFC "sports".

>>33228945
If I was ever gonna fight with women I would have three conditions
1: They can DEMONSTRABLY pull their weight.
Look I understand they might never be able to get up to male PT standards. Hell some of the men can't really either. But it's not special forces so they don't need to be fucking spartans. There's always gonna be a job you can give to the skinny kid.
2: They need to know the physical risk.
I'm not talking about being raped while captured, there's enough sick fucks that everyone faces that now. I'm talking about wearing down bones and tearing muscles.
3: They've got to understand grunt culture isn't going to change for them, they need to change for it.

Women in Combat probably won't happen
Women in combat arms MOS's is happening.

All it is is an indication of what jobs are useful and which are not.
Women have always played a supportive role, nurses, clerks etc. However with women able to go into jobs such as infantry it shows that the military is moving away from simple foot soldiers, they are no longer needed.
The people making these discussions aren't stupid they know exactly what is going on, it doesn't mean the downfall of the US military like some triggered keyboard warriors seem to believe (this guy >>33229072 )

Women however are not in special operations, we still us SF, rangers etc. War isn't how it use to be. People are fighting less and less and even when it happens it first world countries manipulating the third word.

tl;dr women are in infantry because infantry is no longer needed
women will never be in jobs are that needed.

don't spurge out and get triggered

>>33229607
>the average man (who does regular sports) would absolutely DESTROY her
i'm guessing you're one of these average i.e. untrained men. you should go to an mma gym and test your hypothesis

>>33228945
this is interesting...

>>33230304
Latinos have Moor heritage.

>>33230362
>Apolonia

What the fuck do you think, retard?

>>33229541
No, its biological, and a wee bit cultural, but mistly the fact that women are worse than men in almost every conceivable way in combat roles

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I've met some female marines who are harder than a lot of grunts I've seen. As long as they hold there weight, I see nothing wrong with it
I know a lot of them are fuckin tougher than me. But I'm just a comms pog so idk

>>33228945
yes

>>33230172
>make entire separate company for women
>Alpha company will be conducting an assault on this district, Cervix company will assault this other district
>Alpha company completes its objective in a timely manner
>Cervix Co. Hasn't reached their destination
>5 humvees crashed on the way there
>3 stops to allow them to take a piss break
>half of the company needed to go back and see the corpsman for hip fractures suffered from jumping off the 7 Tons
>get to destination
>tired, M4s and pack are heavy.
>girl gets shot
>everyone stops to take a selfie with her
>nobody is strong enough to carry her since she's wearing her gear
>they get captured
>raped repeatedly
>end up pregnant
>everybody gets a medal of Honor since not enough women have gotten one before

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>>33229128

>let her sit out of exercises

What the fuck happened? Can you imagine if a male recruit asked to sit out of exercises because they were too hard?

>pic mildly related
>also /r/ing sauce on OP's pic

>>33230895
That's like saying every German has Russian heritage

Well the shit skins use them for bomb delivery. Does that count...

>>33230895
They also have roman and iberian.

>>33231443
Is it bad that I want her to forcibly rape me until I'm spent?

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today i will remind them

>>33232328
This. This is why i hate women. They all think they're better than us, even after failing MULTIPLE times at something. Then, when someone accommodates the rules for THEM, they rub it in our faces.

Fucking women are the degenerates of our world. They helped create gender studies that we find at uni, they help create gun free zones, and they helped lower the standards of combat ready units.

Fuck women in tge military.

That reminds me. They're the reason WE have to take rape classes, not them. THEY need to learn what rape is.

>>33229425
Bigot. Dune coons need dick too, and as long as there are goats they're out of luck.

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>>33232328
>this whole image

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>>33228945
Do women have the potential to be good soldiers?
Yes. Anyone who disagrees is a counterrevolutionary traitor.

>>33233054
I bet everyone else in her squad ate her ass

>>33229072
Isnt this the same line of reason people used against minorities joining the military?

>>33233132
Would you trust your life to Tray'quanius, the Affirmative Action squaddie? As long as there is a quota system, you can't trust those who benefit from it.

>>33233132
No, it isn't. Nobody was saying that minorities aren't capable of doing the same things whites can do. With women it is that they are PHYSICALLY incapable of doing the things men can do.

>>33233097
that hairy unwashed Russian twat

send me to Siberia please

>>33233097
Hell, I would have

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Just an example of PT standards for women in the military.

The answer is always no to women in combat.

>>33233132
What do you mean? We always had minorities serving in combat roles. It's just they used to be segregated, and the progressive shift was towards integration. I'm not aware of any push against minorities joining the military.

>>33230556
>556
Check'd

>>33229316
Good shit Anon, this is my fetish

>>33229541

It's biological. And it's so obvious it's biological that if you think it's more "cultural" then you have no business using scientific words.

Also, every side spoke of woman soldiers to demoralize the enemy. Typical Russian propaganda. And now you're being fed the same shit.

>>33231443

0311 here. I never met a female POG tougher than anyone in a ca mos, not even tougher than a male POG.

I just saw women who ACTED like they were tough. Perhaps though, you're just one of those guys in the Marines that everyone scratches their head and wonder how and why, and most women are tougher than YOU.

>>33233054

>commie propaganda

Let's just say that it was true. For the sake of the argument. That's a one in a 300,000 chance for a female like that.

Allowing females in combat hoping to find one like this is stupid because the other 299,999 will cause more inconvenience and waste of resources than that one single female sniper can ever make up for.

Russians didn't have a choice with the lack of men. Sure, if man power is at an end then you obviously will have no choice but to use women.

>>33229072
FUCKING THIS

t. veteran

>>33233132
black soldiers and hispanics are fine, but they need to stop allowing africans who barely speak english enlist.

i met like 4-5 africans of varying MOS in the army.

every single one was
>a bad shooter
>incompetent at his job
>lazy as fuck
>constantly trying to rape drunk white girls

seriously stop this equality meme.

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>>33229072
>cucks pushing for women in combat.
>women get rekt by ISIS.
>ISIS makes films of women getting raped to death.
>ultamate cuckhold porn.
>it was their plan the whole time.
>mfw.

>>33231443
Acting tough != being tough
Female marines are great at acting tough but it's an act.

>>33233481
kek I'm a civilian fatbody with a manual labor job and I can do that shit.

>>33230400
>You say that like its a real life factor.

Lol
>You ever been in a fight?
Yes, in and out of the ring. Have you?

>There is a reason why low kicks arent allowed in bitch MMA/UFC "sports".

Jesus lol this must be a troll.

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>>33234067
/b/'s face when

>>33233365
>Nobody was saying that minorities aren't capable of doing the same things whites can do

They actually were.

“If slaves will make good soldiers our whole theory of slavery is wrong” - Howell Cobb on the idea of enlisting negroes in exchange for their freedom.

https://jubiloemancipationcentury.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/if-slaves-will-make-good-soldiers-our-whole-theory-of-slavery-is-wrong-confederate-howell-cobb-on-black-enlistment/

>>33236137

>implying confederate traitors were American citizens and not filthy foreign combatants

What about female pilots

>>33228945
There are plenty of non-combat logistical, mechanical, etc. roles on the home front that women can fill just fine that will free up capable men for the front lines. The WAFS are a perfect example of women doing a good thing to help.

Women in the army: good
Women on the front lines: bad

FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT WOMEN ARE THE ONES WHO MADE THE WEAPONS IN WW2

>>33229072
>She cannot piss and shit in a fucking jar while in a transport chasing down a routing enemy.
Why is it that every time we have a women in combat thread on /k/, someone brings up pissing into a bottle/jar?

You guys really take your piss bottles that seriously?

>>33232173
>That's like saying every German has Russian heritage
It would be true if Germany was ruled by Russia for over 500 years like Moors in Spain

>>33228945
They make good excuses for guys to give about why they're not lazy fucks by comparison. So much whiny bitching

>>33231225
Yes she undoubtedly uses her birth name when getting Eiffel Tower'd and no girl in porn has ever pretended to be from another ethnicity in order to participate in ethnic porn, astute observation.

>>33229072
Think of it this way: If you get shot, who do you want to grab you and drag you to safety, a man, or a woman? Who has a fucking chance in hell of actually dragging your sorry ass loaded with full kit 100 feet over rubble?

>>33228945
Woman have the potential to do anything as long as you take away the RNB culture from them.

>>33229072

Are you implying that ANY of we get Manley's could manage even ONE of those tasks?