Gear Queer Thread - /GQ/

>>33222066
first for normies

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I found it weird Crye opted for plastic buckles on the AVS system.

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>>33221974
Here's a pic. I already took the gloves out. Shit fits but doesn't really fold and go into the pouch symmetrically.

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>>33222066
postan again cause i can.

>>33222126
I used a belt once with those pinchers on it though like that has, to prevent the belt from losing its place after you tighten it. Pretty good actually, much better than I had expected. But yeah im surprised for the price that crye doesn't shill into cobra buckles.

>>33222140
Interesting I think someone else here has one, maybe they could tell you a hidden secret or something.

>>33222066
still waiting on china. just gonna sit here and be gearless for a while. pls post pics.

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>>33222140
>>33221803
It's a small little fucking thing man. I had to get some compact shit to fit a basic blowout kit in there. Currently has:
-2x chest seals
-4" pressure bandage
-3x iodine prep pads
-8x strips of frog tape
-2x med gloves
-1x gauze
-NPA
-2x jelly lube packets

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Basic bitch setup

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>>33222290
and i said biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch

>>33222269
damn chinaman

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>>33222308
And i say thats a decent ass ifak you got there. I have a first spear one that is kinda meh. It was great when i first got it but over time the thing has begun to stretch and the inner tear away sleeve is kinda loose and floppy.

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>>33222066
this radio pouch is dope as fuck.

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Need some advice or ideas on modifying Chicom chest rigs.

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Belts, you say?

>>33222274
Didn't you use the micro chest seals or whatever they are called?

>>33222391
>>33222391
Thanks, nice ranger beads or anal beads. Either way, ya I haven't had this one for long yet, so we will see how it holds up, but so far im pleased.

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>>33222478
Just the basic hyfin compact chest seals.

http://www.1110gear.com/hyfin-vent-compact-chest-seal-twin-pack/

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>>33222421
Is that the 117 one? I like my gearcraft one, leaves the buttons open and has elastic around it to hold it tight

>>33222601
yes, the 117 one, it has the really nice 117 style molle attachment, wings that allow PTT button connections, the bottom has a buckle adjustment to allow everything from bowchangs to PRC152s. has gutted paracord top closure, similar to how tactical taylor makes theirs i think? very nice pouch.

I need a good ruck, something that is high quality and simple, also I need like a decent day pack and a good belt.

I need to get it into Canada or inside Canada.

>>33222668
gear isn't restricted to buy up here unless its armor or gun parts.
look into Mystery Ranch, Hill People Gear, hell even Velocity Systems makes a dope looking pack now

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Post competition gear!

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>>33222140
Alright here it is. Pardon the scratches, armored cars are, ironically, not designed for people wearing pistol belts.

>>33222917
yeah you can tell its jammed pack haha but hey thats alright. Youll rip it all apart if you need it anyway.

Any advice on light operator boots?
Around $200 price range is preferable.

>>33222917
Jesus my phone camera is a potato in bad light.

>>33222942
Salomon Quests are based.
https://www.tacticaldistributors.com/products/salomon-quest-4d-forces-burro?variant=13498824455

>>33222487
Yeah thise are the pull tabs for the inner sleeve of the IFAK

>>33222668
Whats your budget?

>>33222126
your wife mows your grass. you're not an "operator"

>>33222942
I don't have too much experience with shoes except for some Merrell MOAB for hiking and Under Armor Valsetz for work.

MOABs are great. Still together after 2 years with only the little Merrell medallion on the tongue falling off.

The Valsetz laces suck and will break but those are easily replaced. They fit and breathe well (I've used them up to 140F, nothing is comfortable at that temp but they were better than the SWAT boots we're given). The sole is starting to come off the left boot on the inner side a little after 3 years of use, Overall I'd recommend them, but take my advice with a grain of salt and weigh it against others.

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>>33223279
realistically Operators have their wives mow the lawns.
if anything I'm closer to being operator than you

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>>33213542
True, didn't want to spend the 250+ on the Comtacs since I hardly use my radio anyway, for now my Baofeng with a shoulder speaker that has an 3.5mm jack to go to my Peltors (has 3.5mm in jack on it) will work alright.

>>33216143
Damn those are nice.

>>33216157
Why take it off?

>>33216612
>>33216704
>>33216728
>>33216740
>>33216754
I got it for 50 dollars and is a lot better than expected, the shroud holds the rhino with no wobble (have to push down onto the rhino a bit to get it to lock in just like my ACH bracket mount) Obviously going to secure it down with piece of paracord like my ACH just to make sure if it falls off it doesn't hit the ground, could always put a real shroud on it too. I got this because I couldn't find any Protecs at a decent price and don't want to spend the money on a real Opscore until later and this was really the only go between as my ACH just had too much tilt and droop in the system.

>>33222226
God damn milled 5.56 AKs must suck.

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>>33222391

Nice rack. I'd recommend some shoulder pads though. those narrow straps get to be a pain fter a while.

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>>33223399
Thanks man, ive had it for years and before that I used an ATS chest rig that had similar straps. Im fine with it the way it is because i dont like tons of padding under my ruck straps.

Anyone of you have a holster for a USP 45 Tac? Having trouble finding anything.

>>33222733
Oh my fucking God its you holy shit I've been blessed. I really meant like I need to be able to have it shipped to Canada without getting fucked on shipping or get it in Canada. I'll look into those, but I'm a poor bebe right now.

>>33223180
Ruck: $450 CDN

Day Pack: $450 CDN

Belt: $250, I already have an inner belt I just need webbing

>>33223529
rampart corp, DStactical, 911 supply are all within canada and have great selection

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Pls r8, no h8, m8

>>33223353
>realistically Operators have their wives mow the lawns.
This is especially important if you don't want to get cucked. If you pay Pablo to mow the lawn he might end up fucking your wife.

>>33223574
thanks

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>>33223385
They were great, no complaints exceot for the fact they were old and beat up. The whole fuddlore "AKs can survive being run over by a tank" was a pervasive concept at my last unit. Those AKs looked like they fought in WW3 and WW4.

As for taking the eyecup off on NODs, not that anon but its annoying as fuck especially when wearing NODs for hours on end, and you lose all periphery in that eye.

>>33223453
That Woodland kit and ACH tho

9/10

>>33223608
where did you get the smegh without the tassels

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I'm looking into upgrading from my howard leight electronic earpro to something higher end and that I can mount to my ops core helmet, I have looked at the Sordin Supreme X and a number of the 3m Comtac 3 models and am having a hard time deciding, also it seems kind of confusing what the difference between the various Comtac 3 models is, I'm most interested in the non mic Commtac 3 as shown in the image and am wondering if they are really better than the Sordin Supreme X if I am going for a non mic model and if the non mic Comtac 3 still has a line in for my radio even if it doesn't have a line out. Also wanting to know what helmet adapters you guys like, I was looking at this Unity MARK model which seems pretty good and can be ordered with adapter clips for the Sordins.
https://tnvc.com/shop/unity-tactical-mark-modular-attached-rail-kit/

Im also up for non Sordin/Peltor suggestions.

>>33223608
Good for general outdoors/camping. Kinda in the weird territory where your not in camo buT you still look tactical.

>>33223608
because I am a waste of my fathers sperm, I forgot to add that the Utility pouch on the side of the Hazard 4, contains wire strippers/wire cutters, cards, a utility exacto, clear electrical tape/hockey sock tape, a 3rd lighter, several pencils, 10 feet of 550 Chord, 5 AA batteries, a USB Wall/Car charger, Two (2) 5 metre USB lightening chords and two (2) 1 feet USB Android charging chords.

>>33223672
My uncle. He is a huge military fan and works for several big film companies as a charactor dresser. He gave it to me when I visited him.

>>33223702
Yeah, the only camo I would want to wear is woodland or like a heavy winter Multicam jacket, OR CADPAT if the gods smile upon me one day.

>>33223691
imo peltors are more solid and well made

>>33223756
What model do you have or would recommend, do you know if the non mic model loses any other features than the mic?

>>33223353
Maybe if I tell this to my wife, she'll start mowing.

>>33223569
Heres what i recomend then and this is just my approach

>day pack
AWS assault pack - very similar to the the eagle beaver tail but a little better. IMO becasuse you can removed the beaver tail portion and have pals webbing for any pouches you may want.
These things are in the 130 USD range


AWS Recon Pack - very similar design to the LBT 3day assault. Which has been one of the best all around packs for a long time due to its simplicity. AWS makes good kit that wont break the bamk and its a simple design that may not be gucci or cool these days but its a damn good bag. These are 85 USD.

The reason i recomend these is to save some money to apply to the ruck.

Mystery ranch is nice but its spendy. Now for the belt is that 250 for belt and pouches or just belt? if its just the belt look into ATS tactical. Their war belt is damn good quality and about 45 USD. That will allow you to save some cash to put towards a nice ruck but still get good quality gear.

>>33223635
Thanks man

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>>33223735
Neat I traded some kit to a bong for some old SAS issue shemagh.
The only thing I don't like about is those tassels and loose strings.

>>33222126
What holster?

>>33222126
would you like some gear with that velcro?

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>>33223691
>>33223756
>>33223831
Also here is a pic of the Unity Tactical adapters, they have a somewhat smaller arc rail footprint it seems than the more typical designs but I was wondering if anyone had any comments on what ears adapters they have/like for their setups.

>>33223882
otghex ADR mk IV or whatever the light bearing one is.

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Anyone here a handmic fag? I only ever used one after dreadful experiences with the Harris "Frogman" headset, and I preferred the ease of use and volume of the handmics.

There was never a tie where a handmic wasnt a viable, poorfag option instead of fucking with pulling the radio to your face every time.

>>33224194
I am interested in non headset mounted mic solutions, have pics of your setup or descriptions/ want to comment on various methods you have tried?

>>33223060
>>33223314
Thanks senpaitachi.

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>>33223635
So I'm guessing you went to Bulgaria for the training stuff? or somewhere else and you just got a random 5.56 AK? Just interesting info, I'd hate to have to carry a milled AK all day long, not sure why the Bulgarians went with milled for there military.

I can always fold the cup up I guess, just got this helmet so haven't gone walking around the woods with it yet, do you prefer NVG over dominate or non dominate eye?

>>33223935
I have some used Peltor ones for mine that i got off ebay, they are solid, they will also fit any peltor that uses the standard wire "keyway" so you can switch out the plastic links that attach to the muff, I think the Comtacs are larger than the standard infomercial Peltors so i switched mine out.

Are comtac 3s XP any different than regular 3s?

>>33224447
What is the conversion process like for those, can you go over it step by step for me from a off the shelf headband model?

>>33224535
I also have this question.

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>>33222066

do the pistol and magazines have that one slide clip on them or are they just laying on the belt? I wonder if you can still use a magazine if you put one of those CC slide clips on it.

>>33224523
>>33224544
Sorry, meant to reply to the XP question, not mine.

>>33224523
To be exact that's 3M Peltor Comtac III (MT17H682FB-09 FG) model with gel cups. Should i get these for $300?

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>>33224535
Cut off band for Peltor of your choosing (or if you have some of the older models that are separate just take it off ) watch for the cord that connects both muffs. Once that's done you need to check what is include with your arc rail to Peltor adapter, mine had the clamps that connect the muff to the wire already installed but the commercial Peltors seem to use a different size than the Comtac (Comtac too large) so if they have them remove them be pulling them all the way out and turning left or right 90 degrees while lightly pulling and they will pull off (near the end or the wire is a smashed piece of the steel that turns into flat piece that's wider than the rod section than goes back to standard wire rod, this is the "keyway" i was talking about so the adapters will only come off if they are in a turned position that's physically impossible to turn to if the adapters are connected to the muffs since when attached they cant move 90 degrees). Than take what ever adapters you have on your muffs and turn them 90 degrees so if they are on your ear they are pointing towards your eyes/back of your head than push them off and they will pop off (you can see how they come on and off by looking at them) than once all 4 are off attach them to the wire using the reverse of what I told you before by turning 90 degrees than pushing up and they should go on, than once all 4 are on by attaching the adapters to the muffs by using reverse method as above from takeing them off, the wires have a bit of play so you can go 1 by 1 when attaching adapter to muff. And that should be it, I used this with Peltor Range guards as they were cheap, I already had Peltor Sport 100 but didn't want to cut the band off those to sacrifice it for helmet. This same method can be used with the Howard lights but the wire adapters for the Howards dont use the keyway so they will just slide off the wire if you pull too hard down so I wouldn't recommend using those.
Posting old helmet now.

>>33224668
https://www.botach.com/3m-peltor-comtac-iii-hearing-defender-w-gel-ear-cushions/
Arfcom seems to like to buy here, though these are without the com kit with the mic but that can be added later according to the reviews.

>>33224777
What helmet is that?

>>33224777
Thanks for the step by step.

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>>33224777
Damn my lucky post ran out of room, just reply if you have any questions, the whole thing took me maybe 20 minutes long but could be done faster if i didn't want to try and somewhat save the band that came with the Range-guards. Also try and test the Peltors you get and make sure they work before cutting off the band but any Peltor model should work.

>>33224795
Always wanted to try the gelcups but they are fucking expensive and dont want to pay 40 plus on something I may not like and cant really try out.

>>33224806
Surplus ACH helmet with side cut. Got mine with rhino mount from a gunshow, just sucked for holding NVGs and kept tilting down.

>>33224829
No prob

>>33222470
add snaps or velcro closers and a buckle to the back if you want.

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New ATS small IFAK

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IFAK contents

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BFG pouches inbound. Figured if I can't ((run)) a chest rig/pc at the moment I should feed the inner beltfag

>>33222470
backstrap buckle is crucial.

Chicombro OG fashioned an admin pouch out of a ziploc that hangs behind the rig. Seems like he anchored it with rubberbands or binder clips (?). Probably duct tape. He loves duct tape.

Most important mod of all - remove /k/ patch

>>33223453
Drop a DD stock on there and you've got a copy of my brother's rifle. p comfy

>>33225224
>quikclot
unwise, even if it's in bandage form. /$0.02

>>33225411
>quikclot
>unwise

I have a feeling that you are stuck in the past, friend.

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>>33225411
>Chicombro OG fashioned an admin pouch out of a ziploc that hangs behind the rig. Seems like he anchored it with rubberbands or binder clips (?). Probably duct tape. He loves duct tape.
Heard someone talkin about me.
>>33223860
used wood toggles and made loops with paracord

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>>33225522
I also used strips of MTP clothing as a means to reinforce the ducktape lanyard holes.

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>>33225522
>those dubs
my lord...

>>33225510
except, I'm the one with the celox...?

>>33223831
Not that anon, but a comtac owner. The 'Hearing defender' or whatever is just a comtac without a mic. It loses no extra features. Think of it as howard leights but way better. Also I don't think it has a radio downlead, I've only ever used IIs in the army and IIIs in the civvie world.

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Can HSGI TACOs be trusted to retain magazines under intense stress? If I were doing something extreme, like jumping out of an airplane, scrambling up and vaulting over walls, being inverted completely upside-down somehow, or whatever?

>>33225735
if you're really worried about it you can buy bungee tabs and install them on them.

>>33222917
how do you find being an armoured car driver?

Where can I buy replacement lenses for Mframe 2.0s? I bought them used so I don't know where to find legit lenses. Being Oakley's it seems like there are a lot of fakes out there.

>>33225735
Jumping out of a plane will rip your mags right the fuck out of your pouches

>>33222308
Looks like you pieced together the interior contents yourself instead of buying a bozo kit. That is a really sick setup. Mind naming off a few things, I wouldn't mind having a nearly identical setup to that.

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I'm trying to move to Nevada in a couple years and dick around on cheap property, might raise goats. What's the best camo for the desert out there?

>>33226577
Memecam obviously.

>>33223353
>deploy for 9 months
>come home in July
>literally fucking trees growing in my backyard
>grass up to the waist
>God damn safari adventure

Bro my wife is lazy as fuck. She cooks and fucks. I've been training her to do the laundry though.

>>33226577
It's memecam. Lived here since 94.

>>33225735
TACOs come with removable retention bungies. You can also glue small pieces of hook-side Velcro to interface with the loop-side that HSGI sews into the pouch.

>>33227025
Glue hook-side to your mags, I mean.

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>>33225735
Yes, they will hold, you can adjust the retention to whatever you want on them

>>33226555
Thanks, yeah it's all "custom filled".
Contents are as follows

CAT TQ (on outside)
2 hyfin chest seals
2 compressed guaze
2 combat guaze
1 sharpie
1 medical sheers
1 roll of the 100mph tape
2 gloves
1 medical card (w/ small bungie to attach to person)
1 NPA
1 small bag of misc items (steri strips, minor stuff)

Sometimes I add or remove items based on what I'm doing, but this is roughly what I'll have in there.

>>33227046
Do you like your 6b47? Is the suspension comfy?

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>>33224194
>>33224286
Not our OPFOR friend, but I used mics a lot on deployment and hated the headsets as well. I went with an offset "porkchop" handmic mounted on the weak side chest of my plate carrier.

It always worked, and it was a good solution for when other people had to jump in and use my radio (because their coolguy antenna setups broke).

Pic related is not me (I think it's airshit), but it's pretty close to what I did for a mic.

>>33223672
Cause of Berry Compliance, Im not sure if they are directly Bulgarian or middle manned so as to claim "American". However they were full auto so definitely not some chintzy shit.

And I was in Romania when I went to another country for training. Our unit owned the AKs, but Im not sure.

>>33224286
Handmic on a baofeng, single ptt and volume high enough that I can hear it. I have used Sordins before and the thing was I didnt like that the ambient sounds would cut out when recieving transmissions. Multitasking isnt easy with a closed system like that.

However, Lm sure someone might chime in that a closed system is inherently more integrated and quieter since its funneled directly to your ears and not just openly producing sound.

I tried a frogman (?) Headset that had one earcup and that was uncomfortable after a while and the boom mic was spotty at best.

Not to mention headsets in hot weather turn nasty and short of taking halts to dump the sweat out and let them air out, there is no easy way barring the rail mounts to mitigate these issues on the fly.

Plus I dont really do super secret stealthy shit so just keeping a moderate volume on a handmic and ratcheting it up when firing has worked fine.

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>>33227243
I love it, I don't even notice it's on after a while.

Should i bother using a cvc helm for some protection?

>>33227359
Good luck finding one. ACH's are 70 bucks.

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102nd for Team "tactical Japanese Pillow Extraction Brand Gear".

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>>33227379
Checked their prices, why would I buy that over a Tyr?

>>33227367
A shit ton of them on ebay for practically nothing. I just like how it looks.

>>33227392
I see 4 either with no liner or in shit condition exceeding $90, the rest are horribly butchered by airsofters. Other sites only carry non-ballistic fiberglass shells.

>I just like how it looks.
Not particularly cheap or ventilated in comparison to a modern bump helmet. If you want to cosplay, go for it.

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>>33227389
Are you just looking for reasons to convince yourself or an actual comparison?

I don't have the Tyr but everyone got the Gunfighter and from what I heard here are the few differences: (Between the Ronin Senshi / Taskforce which is what I have)

Senshi/TF is VERY stiff. The belt basically stands on its own if held horizontally, comes with D ring and new Cobra buckle (Gunfighter looks like it comes with the older one), and otherwise looks like it has PALS webbing a little further out length by length than the Tyr (not that that's gonna make much of a difference).

The more comparable to the Tyr Gunfighter is the Ronin Shooters belt. Tyr sells the equivalent for $10 cheaper so I'd still go Tyr. But if you want all the neat High drag lo speed doodads then the Ronin is basically the only belt I've found with them all, especially the standalone stiffness of the belt.

>>33227422
Pretty much this, id go with whatever one you can get cheaper/quicker.

>>33227359
No, its too cumbersome for use moving, you will have a loose cable dangling, and less coverage than an ACH. Plus many are old and I dont trust them to be ballistically more capable than any regular combat helmet.

>>33227427
Meh. Go with what you need. Unless you're .mil and want shit before next deployment (even then you can usually get stuff shipped overseas to a base) then get what you want or have a need for more. If you want or need a D ring and no other belts (obviously lots of other belts) have it then get the one with the D ring.

Just worth considering. I'm very happy with mine, most other anon's / blu give the Tyr a good review as well.

>>33222126

Can you give deets on your whole sexy ass holster system ya got there?

Is there a chest rig that can act like a plate carrier in terms of molle space and size?

Ex. Back molle, side cumberbund, chest molle, as well as only coming down to my midriff?

Every one I've seen has that standard chicom build that they all share.

>>33227493
They make admin panels that fit on most any standalone chest rig. Also, full MOLLE panels and hydration panels exist which either come with a chest rig, or which can substitute the standard straps on the back.

The real question is what they fuck are you loading onto yourself with that much MOLLE?

>>33227505

The main thing I want is space for an admin pouch and my hydration carrier/daypack

Aside from that I want to attach my mag pouch

>>33227418
>>33227468
Whelp i wanted to get just the shell and use surplus ach pads and harness on it.

>>33227519
UCR+hydration stap.

It's got a hidden map pocket for admin shit, along with 4 pistol mag sized slots. It has an extra admin panel option if you reeealllly want it.

Personally, a dedicated admin panel is overkill unless you're significantly loaded down and it sounds like you aren't.

Or just buy a FLC or a ChiCom and a seperate hydration pack which fills the same purpose.

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>>33226722
>be me
>leave for 21 days of TDY
>didnt mow lawn before i left
>wife paid a neighbor kid 100 bucks to mow 1/4 of an acre back yard
>mfw

>not being single and having boots cut each blade of grass with sewing scissors at the barracks

>>33227422
Gotcha, thanks

>>33227359
>>33227525

There are two versions of the CVC the alpha version is Fiber glass i think and if not its a very thin layer of kevlar that wont stop shit. but the bravo version it the same thickness and balistic rating as an ACH. If you find a bravo for cheap jump on it.

If you just want a bump helmet by the time you would be done with the after getting a shroud, suspension system, and getting the hard war and doing the conversion you will be kinda close to an ops core bump or decently set up pro tech. If you want a bump there are better options in regard to time and money spent on converting a CVC into some SOHA helmet

>>33227606
>Living in the baracks

No thanks

>>33227654
Alright, thanks, i'll look for the B version.

As i said i just want it mostly for the looks, i already have an ops-core fast as my primary helmet.

>>33227525
Have fun drilling and experimenting. Its your prerogative but all I can say is do some research if you are that dead set on it. Maybe someone else has done it and has a guide out.

>>33227720
>Have fun drilling and experimenting.
That's the goal basically, thanks.

>>33227718
Gotcha best of luck its a fun conversion to do. Milapec monkey had a conversion guide on his site. This was years ago so I'm not sure if its still up.

>>33227945
If you like fucking around with stuff, get a sewing machine and start trying to make some gear or modify it.

I started out with a basic sewing machine and just started fucking around and eventually made a simple molle chest rig and a belt. Just a fun thing to do to kill some time and learn a skill.

>>33228141
While sewing do sounds like the dankest idea ever, i probably don't have time for that. Plus i can have my gear modified or even custom-made for pretty cheap around here.

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>>33222066
K

>>33228284
What are left and right side pouches for?

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>>33228470
Speed loaders.

Who's seen this? lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO-zwdyaLM8

>>33228606
didnt know GT made a new video

>>33228606
AESTHETIC

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Old pic, taking new one when spring break starts next week with updated gear

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>>33228284
lel he had been issued a 22lr wheel gun.

>>33228703
Kind of what I'd imagine young people to look like if there was a civil war in the states

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I'm tl;dr-ing this whole thing. (listing these just in case)
IFAK= Individual First Aid Kit
PC= Plate Carrier
BB= Battle Belt

Don't like IFAK on PC, don't like IFAK on BB, like idea of IFAK fanny pack. Like idea of up-armored BB (done one before, nice lower back support).

IFAK fanny pack + uparmor BB = shit idea or novel OC gear?

>>33229487
Seems like you have too much and it will be covered by everything. I got mine on my plate carrier because if I got to ditch my plates shit is really going down and a booboo kit wont help much

>>33229516
Can you elaborate on "Seems like you have too much and it will be covered by everything."

Also, why would you ditch your plates if it's really going down? Like if the plates are shot to hell? Or you're trying to GTFO ASAMFGDP?

>>33229487
If you can design it like that then good idea, but if you buy one premarital it'll look all janky and shit. Plus where will you connect The fanny?

>>33229487
>listing these just in case
Most people here know those but belt's short enough.

Checked out Ferro Dangler? Hangs from PC, you need some sort of hook and loop on the bottom be that a plate pocket, cummerbund attachment panel, whatever.
https://ferroconcepts.com/products/the-dangler


http://www.tyrtactical.com/products/details/travelers-general-purpose-bags/tactical-medical-waist-pack/
This is pretty big but kind of what you're looking for?

Maybe something like this

http://www.bdstacticalgear.com/pd-bds-tactical-medical-fanny-pack.cfm

>uparmor BB
Soft armor war belts are cool but are fucking huge and heavy so if it's your thing and you don't have a problem with them then by all means...

That's just a LOT of stuff to be wearing at your waist line. Running and bending especially will be harder.


90's MARSOC dudes ran a fannypack IFAK so it's not a terrible idea just have it sinched down so it's not flopping everywhere. Because it's another strap that won't go on your riggers belt (Pants holding belt) that'd be three straps to worry about. Fanny pack, pants belt, and battle belt. Just a LOT of stuff at your waist line. Like pretty much as much as possible without a pack kidney pads as well.

I don't think it's a good idea. Run a slimmer IFAK or one on carrier imo.

>>33229546
>covered by everything
You plan on running all 3? I am not picturing where you would fit the fanny pack, battle belt and plate carrier and have good access to all 3 while still being mobile
>Like if the plates are shot to hell? Or you're trying to GTFO ASAMFGDP?
yes. Gear ditching is a last ditch move and if you have to do it you are doing something severely wrong

>>33229570
If you're running ceramic (which you should be) then after getting shot 5-10 times the plates won't be doing so well and neither will your carrier, or you fall in water / a hole and need to get yourself up. I don't know about you but I can't do a pullup with 40lb of shit on me. That's certainly a goal, but it's a consideration that has to be made for all us non hard mother fucking oper8r dudes that can do that.

So there are times you'll find yourself in need of dropping your carrier. This requires two things to work

One, first line gear. Your belt. Something you'd never really take off. On there you shouldn't have too much, not too much weight, not too much bulk. Usually the consensus the thread is an ifak, pistol holster and at max 2 rifle mags 2 pistol mags. More than that is fine if you have more real estate or are bigger but that's the "average".

>>33229634
Yeah I know all that. So Where would you connect your fanny pack? Like the other guy said it's gonna cause you to have straps everywhere

>>33229659
If I were to run a fanny pack I would preferably run the strap at my belt line. If it's possible to get your pouches on your belt (assuming no war or molle belt, just normal riggers belt) around the fanny pack strap as well that's be great.

If not then as low and close as possible to the other belt. It won't have a buckle of sorts so you won't get the issue caused by two cobra or metal buckles catching like you do with a traditional battle belt.

Ronin promotional video covers this well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjxcbHpPoJk

So, as close to your pants belt as possible. If you're running a battle belt this might be an issue however because now you're stacking belts. So your fanny pack can't go past your riggers, and your battle belt will sit on top of that unable to go any lower so now you have more of a kidney pad than a "belt".

>>33229570
>Plus where will you connect The fanny?
Good question, I have a couple of ideas. One is to attached the fanny to the PC and hang over the belt buckle area, this is obviously the least amount of work but the most crowded.

The other is to resew the belt and fanny into one unit so the the strap from the fanny is now the inner belt of the BB, buckle placement would have to be off to one side or the other.

>>33229585
The BDS is pretty close to what I've envisioned for the IFAK portion. I gotcha about the multiple straps, that is a lot.

>>33229631
>you are doing something severely wrong
Agreed.


Ideally to doff this fanny pack belt combo it'll be one buckle and that's it. My sketch is probably insufficient to relay my idea to ya'll. Really I'm just looking for 1) a better IFAK option and 2) it ain't nothing but something to do with all the damn kevlar and Cordura I've got at the house. I could do it for the entertainment value alone, worst case is I go back to an IFAK on the PC rubbing my inner arm raw.

>>33228282
yeah I will say it takes time to learn and takes time to get a design worked out and sewn properly.

>>33229724
I'd go the way of the rest of the thread and pick up a "slim molle belt" (for lack of a better term) like the Tyr Gunfighter or any of the Ronin belts.

mount your stuff to that, and then running a fanny pack won't be as much of an issue / actually possible. You'll have to skip out on the armored part though. Up to you. What you COULD try to do is loop the straps of the fanny pack through the battle belt as well. It would make getting to your battle belts buckle a bitch but you've now resolved the problem of three straps and brought it down to two.

I'm still not a fan of having to run two separate belts, ie pants belt and lbe belt but still that's an option.

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>>33229724
Put your IFAK on the back or front of the carrier / wear sleeves.

/gq/ I know aesthetics aren't everything but do you ever feel like you have too much of one color gear? So far my PC, all pouches, and pack are all coyote, I feel like I need to throw in some OD or M81 just to keep it from washing out, make sense?

>>33229894
I would, I have but it's sooo annoying to me. Normally if I'm just using the PC, it's 3 mag shingle up front, and radio or double pistol mag pouch at about 10 or 11 o'clock. I like to keep my 2 to 3 o'clock open because I like to hang my rifle there and I tend to "dangle" my right arm in that position when not holding my weapon. Hence the whole IFAK fanny pack idea.

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>>33229901
MULTICOLOR?

>>33229932
Something, I'm in a pretty arid area and I'm fond of solid color gear over camo.

P.S. The blob kinda takes away from your shot, have you tried Pixelot?

>>33229958
Mspaint > all
It's a bathroom selfie. Maybe if I get some buddies to take range picture I'll instagram opsec filter them..

Have you tried multicam then? Meme tier I know but it works well in arid areas, all gear comes in multicam. For solid colors just go Coyoto Brown and Coyote Tan.

>>33229982
I'll consider it, my "uniform" is multicam. I know it's a hipster thing to say but I was buying multicam before it was even a thing, back when you could only get it from Crye. Got one of their caps and Durka patch when it first came out, its all bleached out now but pulled 6 years in Iraq.

>>33226348
Can anyone help me with this?

>>33229901
>be poor
>buy the cheapest thing, doesn't matter what colour

problemo solved.

I've been looking for some goggles that fit comfortably over glasses; the cheap ones I have now don't fit unless I cram them against my face, and it makes wearing earmuffs difficult with two sets of legs between them and my head. What do you guys use?

>>33230280
Don't, I've done it and it's terrible. After about 8 hours I had to take them off and just walked around with shittier vision. Either get contacts or prescription goggles or ballistic glasses

>>33230504
This. Even those "glasses compatable" snowboard goggles" still don't really do the job.

Also holy shit can these house numbers fuck off literally solid minute of captcha.

>>33230504
>>33230555
Yeah I kind of figured it'd be tough to find something that works. Any recommendations on what Rx goggles/ballistics are good?

How is OPS UR Tactical?
http://www.ur-tactical.com/index.php/component/virtuemart/view/productdetails/virtuemart_product_id/4531/virtuemart_category_id/1205

Looks pretty good but I'd like to get a second opinion.

>>33230693
Check out ESS Eye Pro.

>>33231192
It's a legit Austria Alpine Cobra buckle so that's good to go, and it says it's 500D but I don't know the rated weight support on that. So if you don't plan on doing any vehicle ops (Not a ton of point to a D ring then other than as a gloves carabiner spot then, but that's what I use mine for) then it looks solid and is really inexpensive as well.

Good find.

>>33222290
Hey fatass, nice knock-knees!

>>33231498
The entire company looks pretty based for a Chinese knockoff one.

I was thinking of picking up one of their plate carriers with the belt.

>>33231931
Yeah for a knockoff company this isn't that bad. Not quite AWS tier since AWS actually makes stuff deployed dudes use all the time but it's not actually that bad of stuff for the pricing. Only thing I'd be worried about is stitching.

Materials aren't a huge part of the cost for gear it's man hours and manufacturing hours.

>>33222290
switch to a more formal type of shoe or a sneaker, add a wrist watch and you're early 90's CIA.

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Have any of you guys dyed fabric before?
I have a set of very fadedt Multicam an army friend gave me after his deployment. I'd love to do dye it green but I don't know what shade of dye I would need

>>33232133
I've dyed UCP with some kind of dark green by Rite. It came out okish.

Don't expect to get "green multicam" since dyes will overpower the existing colors and mute their distinctions. Your pic related is about what I'd expect from subjecting a uniform to green dye. Though the velcro gets weaker and sometimes a little fuckity. In your pic related, to my eye, they added the velcro on after the fact.

>>33232288
My pic is exactly what I'd like to get actually.
The multicam is extremely faded, especially on the shoulders and upper chest/back.

Good to know, I won't be putting any name tapes on it but maybe a shitposting patch on the sleeves.

I found a recipe for OD RIT, its their dark green with a splash of brown. Think I should go with that, or just green since the base color is more or less tan already?

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>>33232342
What is the foliage like where you would wear your stuff? If it is super bright maple woods green, go straight green. If it is more conifer, add the brown.

>Kelly green on UCP

>>33230693
>>33231442
ESS makes a prescription lens holder that works with many of their goggles that attaches inside and fits lenses in order to suspend them between your eyes and the inside of the goggle lenses, those should be the kind of thing you are looking for, right?

>>33233282
Those things suck ass.

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>>33233322
Sorry never tried em, I just said fuck it and went without until it got bad enough I decided to spend the money on lasic, what sucks about them?
http://www.esseyepro.com/U-Rx-Insert_191_detail.html

>>33233451
They fog up easily and quickly and there is no easy way to quickly wipe them without removing them from the glasses.

They also have a tendency to sit very close to the eye and annoying hit the eyelash constantly.

And you look like a nerd.

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putting patches on battle belt, dumb? y/n

>>33233494
Meh. Kinda weird since who looks at belt line. Gimmicky and you'll get the "whataboutvisibility" anon's but who actually wears a lot of patches around.

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>>33233494
patches at all are dumb

>>33233494
Depends, if your pouch has a bit of velcro there then by not. But dont over do it. Patches generally make things look airsofter tier. No one really wears special snowflake patches irl operatin. Just normal .mil ones are fine, or an occasional pirate flag or something.

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>>33233565
>not wearing your /k/ patch while operating

ive got a banshee pc and the shoulder straps start to loosen after a while. how fix?

>>33224563
Just laying on the belt, not connected in anyway. Waiting on holster to be made, and waiting for esstac to make G43 holsters for new ETS 8Rnd Mags

>>33233822
There should be an adjustment tab, no?

>>33233951
Meant for
>>33233809

>>33233951
On what? The G43 and mags I just laid on the belt, there is molle as shown for you to put attachments on, but I just put them there to show where ill be placing them.

The ifak is attached however.

>>33233959
ignore this then>>33233966
haha i was pretty confused

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>>33222066
Gear question.
>A good value flashlight pouch?
Standard molle pistol mags are too short for a 1" diameter, 6" long Flashlight. I don't like TACO's and they're thirty bucks.
Anyone had this problem before too?

>>33233494
morale patches are silly and i think you'll look dumb but if you want to do it go ahead

at that pint its a matter of taste

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>>33233997
More GEEEAR

>>33233982
I'm dumb and messed up.

As for the plate carrier adjustment there should be a plastic friction buckle and with that you can lift that up so it's parallel with straps and then pull said straps to desired length which adjusts the length of the shoulder straps.

>>33233997
I put mine in a pocket or just drop it in my map pouch.

>>33233997
Pocket. If you need to get at it fast then gp or admin pouch. Super fast then taco. Even faster then use weapon light.

>>33233997
What's wrong with a taco? Just curious. The one's I've bought are closer to $15 if you don't mind not getting it in 2 days. I've also seen regular flash light or 'tool' pouches that can fit 6" lights on amazon.

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>>33234054
My autism demands 1 weapon light, 1 90 degree light, and 1 regular hand flashlight
>>33234066
For $15 I'd give them a go, just not a fan of the typical $27 tag, dangling bungee cords, and mallice clips, source? Pls and Thnks

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>>33234092
Looks like they are actually $11 right now, free shipping if you have prime. The brand (Onetigris) is known for making dog vests/dog gear, but they've gotten into other things in the last couple years and the stuff I have has been really good quality for the money.

https://www.amazon.com/OneTigris-Open-Top-Single-Adjustable-Magazine/dp/B01JOTYZCG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488939784&sr=8-1&keywords=onetigris%2Btaco&th=1

Depends on how you feel about taking a risk on a lesser known brand. Pic related, it's the double decker taco I got from them. Not perfect but pretty darn good considering the price tag.

>>33234165
Thanks for the tip on that brand, was looking for green though. I'll keep my eye out, might just cave and get try a TACO

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>>33234228
>green
Sometimes I wonder why people do green stuff and then I remember there are people who don't live in a desert, lol.

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>>33234264
I wouldn't mind the dessert, currently suffering in Jew York.

>>33234333
where at inna city?

>>33234407
That's be even worse. Inna Burbs. There's affordable housing near, and in Rochester, so plenty of riff raff

>>33234433
Where are you at nigga I need more NY gearbros

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>>33234433
Western NY is best NY.

Which is still pretty bad.

>>33234447
the 14616. Currently going to SUNY Brockport. You?

>>33234433
Rochester is fucking horrible. I went to RIT.
>>33234495
>>33234499
>Jew York
Get out before they fence you in and force you to pay taxes until you die.

NY is a fucking shithole. I left that fucking place almost 2 years ago, thank God.

>>33234499
14454 here. You been to Allstar Tactical? I just noticed they exist and was wondering if they were worth a visit.

>>33234495
If Cuomo wasn't such a fag it would be bearable, but pistol permit renewals and no "assault" weapons, come on now

>>33234530
He is just setting the stage for his presidential run.

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>>33228846

>>33234527
No, heard of them though, never realized how close they were to me. Never had a reason to go. I hit up a private FFL in Henrietta for bulk ammo and AR lowers. The Firing Pin in Brockport for shootin.

I was at the January Gun Show in Henrietta too

>>33234525
Where'd you move to? I was thinking maybe Wisconsin, or well anywhere cold and red, even though Wisconsin is technically purple, but anyway...

>>33234599
Colorado. There's some annoying shit to deal with ("universal" background checks and a 15rd mag limit that no one cares about) but it is overall a lot better then Jew York.

>>33228470
>>33228556
Close. You place 6 loose shells in there, and when you reload you pull down on it and they dump into your hand.

>>33228846
It's a S&W M&P. So yea pretty much a .22

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>>33234630
Why do you hurt me like this? I lived in a little ranching and hunting town in NW Colorado until I was ten, then moved to WNY. The homing pigeon urge is almost overwhelming sometimes.

>>33234495
bronx ;_;

>>33234664
Western NY is so shit. Might as well be Canada. My girlfriend grew up in Buffalo. I hate having to go there for family bullshit.

The only places shittier that WNY are downstate and the fucking city.

>>33234685
>The only thing in NY worse than WNY is the rest

Sounds about right.

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>>33234721
NY is bretty big, sempai.

Sullivan is red becasue it's fucking full of jews.

pic related.

>>33234777
What you DONT live in a jew colony?

fuck man they have their little colonies everywhere its horrible to watch

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>>33234792
Colony? That's way too kind. I've been inside one or two of the camps and they are full on concentration camps. They won't even let health/building inspectors inside.

Driving on a Saturday in the countryside is a fucking shit show with all the jews walking inthe fucking middle of the road.

Fuck. It infuriates me to just remember it.

>>33234850
I have a house there m8 and I be of the hook-nose. I hate them so much.

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LBT 9022b

>>33234777
I know it. I am in Livingston and have to explain using small words and the occasional puppet that I am not from NYC. I was at Ft. Sam for a while and people were shocked to see pictures of NY that lacked the statue of liberty or pizza.

>>33222066
What's your favorite way of carrying a combat knife? Shoulder, hip, butt?

>>33234946
depends on what the purpose is

if you think you're going to use it to cut someone off you then you want it somewhere you can get at it with either hand.

otherwise wherever you won't cut yourself resheathing in the dark.

Still no Chicom

8 weeks 5 days so far

FeelsLikeALongWaitMan

>>33235115
>fly to vietnam
>go to village
>get real chicom

all less than 24 hrs away anon

>>33235115
Sometimes, I like to buy chinkshit from Ebay, wait a few weeks, and request a refund. They always give it, and the item almost always comes in a month or two anyway.

>>33235160
>>33235128

I ordered a Rig From 762tactical
its like a modernized chicom

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Does anyone make a plate carrier or chest rig in multicam tropic?

>>33234946

Shoulder carry is retarded after you put a pack on.

New Peltor Comtacs arriving tomorrow.

>>33235667
OP tactical has some Mayflower chest rigs in tropic.

>>33234896
Lets see that thing mounted.

Did you get the med kit made for it or buy components? If so, what did you put in it?

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>>33235946
Those Mayflower UWCR IVs are sexy man...considering giving one a shot in ranger green.

>>33236309
Don't have a final belt setup yet, still waffling over the AWS belt, the Ronin belt, the Crye MRB, etc. I bought components. In there there's a Quikclot gauze, OLAES bandage, and NAR s-fold gauze. I'm going to add a twin pack of Hyfin vent chest seals now that I know they'll fit. Everything's in a ziplock bag to keep the elements out and keep everything together when I pull the release.

>>33235667
LBT makes plate carriers in Tropic. Not sure if their Multicam Madness sale is still going on or not.

>>33236360
Well you can send it to me so we can see what it looks like on a ronin belt.

What kind of quikclot? Combat gauze or shorter gauze?

who has that body armor 101?

and is body armor 102 ready yet?

need me some plates

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https://deliberatedynamics.com/shop/protective_gear/plate-carriers/deliberate-dynamics-gen-2-shooters-cut-plate-carrier/

Has anyone ever seen these before?
I'm having a hard time finding much info on them. Kinda looks shittily made, but don't really know.

I emailed them and they did say that it was 500d cordura.

I'm really would just want it for the plate pockets and shoulder straps

>>33237165
Now that I'm looking at it, it looks like the cuts are different angles...

>>33237165
looks pretty basic. can't be that hard to make, right? it's for the more angular plates and not sapi ones

>>33236754
they only make it in the large size unfortunately

tfw you're a small and the only places that make small multicam tropic are mayflower who is all sold out of tropic smalls and airsoft companies

>>33237165
Now I can wear ALL OF MY PATCHES

>>33237220
The lower velcro is generally there for chest rigs. Hence why there's slits for swift clips beside the top velcro.

>>33237220
That's what the pig brigandine is for

>>33236360
IMO don't put the stuff in a plastic bag, the bandages all are in water proof seals anyway assuming you didn't already open them. It's just going to make it harder for you to get what you need quickly. If you have your bandages long enough where the plastic starts to become worn from just sitting in your ifak, you need to replace them. Take them out and use them tor training and then buy new ones

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ATS War Belt

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>>33229487
Going prone is one of the first things you do if you don't have adequate cover.
and going prone in that wouldn't be fun, especial when you can't shift it to one side or the other, but hey if you're a doorkicker SWAT guy it would be GTG.

>>33233494
It's dumb but I had a weeb "Shimapan" Velcro Patch on my IFAK indicator velcro on my dump pouch

>>33229901
whatever floats your boat.
if I ever NEED to I can always rattle can my kit.

>>33234499
Did i buy a nugget off of you last year?

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>>33222066
Gonna get an inner riggers belt with a cobra buckle I think

>>33237052
Just got my HESCO Medium SAPIs (level 4) in the mail. Heavier than an ESAPI but not by much. Also 360 for both plates total.

Ill save you the effort. Google life and liberty gear based in Colorado.

>>33236944
it's not the sponge garbage, it's the same kind of gauze as z-fold combat gauze but in roll form (was cheaper)

>>33237847
The thing is there's literally no organization in the LBT 9022b. so once you pull the tab everything inside literally just falls out the bottom. So if the bandages, gauze, etc aren't in some kind of bag you have to pick all that shit up.

>>33237948
You think if you were to cut the left and right tabs off that serpa MOLLE adapter it would still hold well?

I ordered one and just realized the belt I ordered with it only has 3 columns of molle webbing on the hip sections. Can't imagine cutting one of the tabs off would make a big difference, but what about two?

>>33238686
Why would you cut them though, why not just not use them

>>33238592
I always thought it was meant to be mounted with the opening upward.

>>33238846
no, it's meant to go opening down. Makes it easier to release that way

>>33238853
I guess I would just be mounting it upside down then.

>>33238878
you could but the release is awkward to get to from the top when you're wearing gear

honestly i want a AWS low vis blowout kit now, the LBT quality is definitely slipping

>>33238592
Ah. I see, ya might have to consider a new kit, at least one that doesn't jizz out supplies in a bad way

>>33237948
Is that the TDI? Knife?

>>33238096
Is there an insert for that belt? Seems like it wouldn't be stiff enough

>>33238834
read my post, I only have 3 columns of molle available, the adapter uses 4

>>33238967
>>33238834
>>33238686
>>33237948
Actually nevermind, I just found a Safariland SLS on ebay for $9 kek

I got a molle fork for it, will fit much better with my belt.

Should i get an armor carrier guys?
What's the use to it now, when the meta is pc + belt?

What's the verdict on Trident Tactical Solutions?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262884168811

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mfw i have been posting without a trip.
>y live

I feel like I got a really good deal here.

>>33239337
hey they are located about 1.5 hours away from me. I am curious as well, now.

>>33238916
I think I'm gonna end up going with the bfg micro tkn any way. Holds shit together, but no retarded ass buckles or zippers.

>>33239352
You definitely did. Good stuff.

>>33239352
Are you a lefty?

>>33239369
Aw yiss. Cheapest I can find this holster is $124 (with thigh mount). This was $9 just the holster, but I wasn't going to use the mount anyway.

>>33239376
Of course. Southpaw is best paw.

>>33239123
>armor carrier
You looking for a soft armor carrier for the BALCS/CIRAS style 3a soft armor or a plate carrier?

The "meta" is mobility. Especially for civvie use, there's literally no need for turtle vests or butt/crotch pads or any of that. It's all about load bearing options. So if you don't want to fuck with armor then don't buy a plate carrier, but a chest rig.

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What are you alls thoughts on making a holster out of milk jug plastic and jean denim?

>>33239836
Instead of spending 3 hours making a crappy item, spend 3 hours working at a fast food restaurant and use the money to buy something good.

>>33239836
Post true low vis low expectation build yes thank you

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Merrell

good shit

>>33239861
I'm digging it desu. Obviously not as robust as Kordura or Nylon anything but it's kinda cool to see what anon's can DIY and if it's functional. Like that one DIY plate carrier that other anon posted. Said it wasn't all that comfortable and he didn't like how the chicom on the front couldn't be removed but it's still probably one of the coolest thing's I've seen in the thread.

>>33239916
How much did you use it?

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>>33239916
I have those exact same shoes, what did you do to them?

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>>33239916
my last pair of moabs were destroyed after about a month and 100 miles rucked. never again

>>33239923
10 months total
8 of those months have been everyday

>>33239928
wore them

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>>33239936
lowas are in my future.

i also need separate boots for work and hiking.

>>33239937
I've used mine for 2 years and they're still fine as fuck

>>33239836
Milk jug plastic may be too elastic and prone to snags or tears. Try bleach jug material instead.

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>>33239957
im very fond of my salomons. they feel like running shoes. i have fucked up knees and I would be in so much pain after a 12 or so mile ruck in my moabs i could barely move the enxt day. havent had any knee pain with my salomons. moabs are decent for kicking around but arent designed for load bearing.

>>33239937
I've been wearing them every day for ~4 months. Starting to show some wear on the rubber on the toe and heel but nothing serious. I guess we'll see. Would you buy them again if you had the chance?

>>33239999
> they feel like running shoes
Almost yeah. They have great arch and heel support imo. Fit well and more importantly bend well and don't chafe.

>>33240148
Would not buy again

>>33239999
interesting. kinda a toss up between solomon and lowa

>>33240374
no personal experience with lowa but i hear good things

>>33227243
Adding to because I can, make sure to get the right size, or size up if you need electronic ear pro. Otherwise is comfortable as fuck.

>>33240374
>>33240287
>>33239999
Go back to your own thread
fuck you hoosier you fucking leaf!

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>>33239352
Just bought the vest, hopefully it's good.

1000d condura so if the stitching is there then it should be a pretty baller vest.

>>33240668
Holy shit it just sent out like 2 minutes after I ordered it.

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Comtacs arrived

>>33240676
Did you get a tracking number? In theory you can mark shipped and just not give a number. So not really have it shipped yet.

But if its a large seller they may have stuff already packaged.

>>33240684
Yeah got a number and everything

>>33240720
Nice. Did it come with mag pouches or no?

Are you getting plates?

>>33240668
Keep me updated senpai

If it's good I might drive south a bit and pick one up in person.

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Still on deployment and cant wait to get back and drop 300$ on gear after I buy my handguns.

>>33240819
What are youo gonna get?

>>33240882
I'm getting a Glock 17 and still deciding on either a RIA GI 1911 or a GP100 in 357. Gear wise I'm buying some taco pouches at the PX because it's like 5 to 10$ cheaper and tax free. I need comms too but I'll progressively buy everything

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>>33240726

Looks like it has built in pouches on the cummerbund and a 3 mag bungie on the front of the carrier

>>33240726
I'll get the AR500 level iii or iv plates eventually.

>>33233607
who sells that /k/ shield?

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>>33241030
do not buy steel plates

>>33241086
Alright I'll go for soft armor

>>33241185
get ceramic level IV plates if you're going to get hard plates, the ones sold on ar500armor are find just make sure what you're getting is ceramic if you're getting hard armor. Steel has various "issues"

>>33241202
> are find
are fine*

steel plates have issues stopping high velocity rounds and get raped by m855a1

>>33241046
https://kommandostore.com/

>>33240808
Where did you find the information on that company. I searched them on Google and it brought up some ex seal who made a training course for civvies

>>33234028
i get all that but im a pretty small person and the angle the buckles sit at allow them to loosen over time when i wear it. so i put it on where i want it then after a few hours its slid down enough to fuck with my back.

>>33241744
>>33241744
dat new new

>>33233494
>>33233607
where to cop pikachu. my girlfriend wants it