>Russians and poorfags will unironically defend this

Rifle is fine

>>33193070
whats bad about it?

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>>33193078

>>33193092
Not OP but

>rimfire
>corrosive ammo
no thanks

>>33193070
https://youtu.be/a-CTa2lMGN0
Rifle is fine

>>33193070
>one of the worst triggers ever
>bayonets often don't even fit
>bayonets which do fit often have to be removed with a hammer
>medicore accuracy at best
>uses rimmed ammo
>high bore axis
>awkwardly short stock designed to fit peasants whose growth was stunted by multiple famines.
>wide front sight makes bars precision
>safety cannot be disengaged when mounting the piece to the shoulder
>poorly shaped steel butt plate batters and bruises shoulders
>barrels, which were not that good to begin with, are often rusted from decades of corrosive ammo.

>>33193099
Dubs confirm

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>Finns and patricians will defend this

>>33193101
>poorly shaped steel butt plate batters and bruises shoulder
P U S S Y

>>33193099
>rimfire
>mosin

anon, I...

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Fag

>>33193099
The cartridge is rimmed, it's not rimfire.

>>33193099
>rimfire
Rimmed cartridges are not the same as rimfire. Modern non-corrosive 54R is widely available.

>>33193195
Is something Donald Trump likes to grab. Meanwhile, I'll be grabbing my rifle with a nice, cushy rubber pad on the buttstock.

>>33193207
Only because third worlders will use literally anything they can get their hands on. Milsurp is cheap. That's why they use it. Not because it is good.

>>33193099

>rimfire

you're a special kind of retarded

>>33193070
It's a perfectly fine club, a spear, a gun to shoot for the lulz and to appreciate guns that are actually good.

>>33193070
You could say the same about the AKM.

>>33193224
>Is something Donald Trump likes to grab.

you still mad Hillary lost?

>>33193099
dont even like mosin but this is poor b8.
>rimmed no rimfire
>modern non corrosive ammo for sale
I dont judge mausers by shitty turkish 8mm grenades.

>>33193272
Very poor balance for a club, better off getting some wind fallen branch instead

>>33193099
So is the Enfield. Almost all military ammo from the period is corrosive.

>>33193572
the battle maybe :^)

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>>33193132
There is a reason the m39 is in the trifecta of milsurp perfection with the k31 and m/96. It's high quality and built like a brick shit house and a half

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>buying a garbage rod

>>33195160
>watching tfb tv

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>>33193099
>rimfire
bruh

>>33195156
>>33193132
>being poor

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>>33195752
>Poor
Hmmm...

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>>33193070

>>33195943
Did you see the one that just sold for $1700? Fuck.

>>33193099

Nooooo
Guuuuuunnnz

>>33195160

>looking like a date rapist

>>33193224
GRAB HER BY THE PUSSY
SEIZE THE MEANS OF REPRODUCTION.

>>33196892
Karl marx

Used to have a 91/30, was meh. Worst thing was the mushy trigger and was less accurate than i thought. If I got another one I'd go for the shorter variants

>>33195160
>using your dads credit cards to buy your guns

>>33196835
Yeah but I didn't screen cap it. This one will probably break $1400 though.

>>33193070
Somthing I never understood. Was the mosins apparently shitty QC just rushed production or was the design actually bad? 91\30s seem to get the most shit, but I usually hear good things about M39s.

>>33197126
Mostly it's people having unrealistic expectations and post war refurbishment. Non refurb 91/30s, even from 42 or 43, are usually just as good as their contemporaries. Hell even most of refurbs are.

>>33197126
It's bad QC and poor finishing or a lack there of by the Russians.

A simple trigger job of polish and cleaning reduces the weight and grind.

Do the same to the bolt and its mating surfaces and the bolt smoothes out.

Put a new spring in for the fitting pin that wasn't made from shit tier tool steel and it becomes easier to cycle.

The safety is admittedly the worst aspect of the rifle only because it's supposed to lock the bolt rather than the trigger itself like today's bolt actions.

People like to think advances in technology have brought us more complex and reliable designs. But compared to say the Cheytak m200, all that's changed is machining is easier to hold to a high degree of precision in mass production, at a cheaper price point, and metalgury.

At least when it comes to bolt actions.

These advances brought about the AK and AR15 and 18, but even those designs are 70 some years old, and are based off of concepts that existed since WW1.

>>33193233
It's cheap and it works

>>33197179
Pre-war Mosins are good too. I love mine.

>>33197523
if you're buying a gun because it's cheap you shouldn't be buying guns

>>33193070
Can't really complain about min, I can easily hit coyote at 400m.

That said, I'd imagine it's like most guns, you get one with a shot out barrel and fucked crown, and expect a sniper, you're going to have a bad time.

Most also have what people assume are drift, but the weapon was sighted in with a bayonet on, as per Soviet Doctrine of the time, put the bayonet on, or adjust the front sight, and you'll notice it shoot a lot straighter

I love my 91/30. It was my first rifle when I was small, and the bore is just as sharp and shiny as when my father gave it to me.

It's rugged, simple, hard to cause problems with. The sights are canted on mine, but they've always been that way and I learned to compensate perfectly a very long time ago.

I'll pass it along someday because I can tell this rifle isn't going anywhere. The most it could use is a replacement stock because this one is cracked and has issues with the finish.

Could you get a better rifle? Sure you could. But I don't need to hit bullseyes on paper, as long as I can shoot a dinnerplate sized target out to 250yrd, I'm happy with it.

I still have my other bases covered, because I am living in America. I have Stevens 870 copy and S&W M&P15 rifle as well.

>>33197654
>poor people shouldn't own guns

This is how you sound

>>33197654

Some people can afford to shell out for quality and some cannot.

Even though I could afford good guns and did decide to get some, I'd still rather have a shitty gun than no gun.

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>>33193070
they're good rifles.

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>>33193224

Something I've always wondered is why people don't make repro Nuggets in modern calibers? wasn't the whole selling point of the Mosin that it was cheap to produce (at least cheaper than the Mauser action)? does Russia just not let anybody?

>>33198893
Because the design is actual shit compared to any modern actions that are simpler

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>>33193070
I make $120K/year and have >40 other guns.

My Mosin is my favorite by far.

>>33198950
This. The Ruger Murkan and Savage Axis are both better designs when combined with modern materials technology and needs (e.g. everyone wants a scope, nobody wants stripper clips, everyone wants detachable magazines, etc.).

No point in trying to go back to an old design when you can come up with something new that works waaaaaay better. Every single Ruger Murkan is free-floated out of the box. And has a detachable magazine. And is drilled and tapped for scopes. Can it really get any better?

Sauce: I worked for Ruger for several years.

>>33198893
It wasn't really cheaper, and the tooling for it has long since disappeared. Plus it has no advantage for a sportsman, the primary user of bolt actions rifles.

>>33193070
>tfw no Kurwa M91/30 in 8x57mm Commie Blaster

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so, suppose I want to start collecting Milsurp. would paying ~250$ for a nugget be worth it then? I want to get all the different bolt guns used in WW2, and I figure the mosin would be a good starting point.

>>33199415
Well, if you want to pay $500 for them in a few years I suppose you can hold off. Otherwise, yeah get one now.

>>33193070

I don't need to justify my fun to you

>>33193099
Congratulations, you're literally retarded.

>>33199415

Prices aren't going down, that's for sure. Do some shopping and try to find one for $200-$250 that's in good condition.

The same applies for stuff like Yugo Mausers (~$300), Enfields (~$400), and so on. Their supply is slowly but surely drying up, so you'd be better off buying them sooner than later.

>>33199781
Different anon here, what about the opposite? Is it possible to find shitty Chinese type 53s real cheap anymore? I want one that's worthless to fuck around with as a project

>>33200545

Chinese Mosins are basically the same price, if not a tad higher due for whatever reason.

>>33201125
I've always heard about how rough the type 53s were, it's kind of retarded to charge a premium for rifles that were literally wrapped in wire and buried. I thought it would be neat to get a shitty one to work on a restoration/accurizing project, but I guess 250 is the norm nowadays.

the age of the Mosin has ended.

It used to be a gun anyone could buy with a days worth of wages, and ammo could be had for what 440 rounds at 80-100 bucks?


Now you might as well just buy a scout rifle in .308 and enjoy the upgrade.

>>33201172

You could maybe get one for $200, but the same can be said about a Russian Mosin.

>>33201216

Pretty much. If you wanted to stay in the realm of surplus, you can also just get a Mauser for ~$300 too.

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>>33193099
>Corrosive ammo
Every fucking gun at that period used corrosive ammo.

If that is bothersome just get this then you faggot

>>33201240

>buy surplus 54R for cheap and then just clean out the rifle after coming back from the range with water and then usual cleaning
>or buy new production ammo and get buttfucked by the prices

>>33201269
>Only shoot non-reloadable ammo
>Pissed when surplus ammo stops being imported
It's good to have foresight and reload.

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>bought 2 crates from cabelas when they were on sale for $80 in 2010

>30 crates stacked in the shed from when they were $180 a crate


MFW

>>33196962
You would if you could too

>>33194999
>Almost all military ammo from the period is corrosive.
Why is this?

>>33201380

because it stores indefinitely.

>>33201380
The primers last longer and are more reliable in extreme conditions.

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>>33193201

>missed out on the opportunity to buy a mosin when they were cheap because I lived with noguns faggots and too much of a pussy to tell them to fuck off and buy guns anyway
>cheapest one I can find is $229
>want one because I love WW2 shit
>on the other hand I won't get to shoot it for a while since I don't have any rifle ranges near my place
>will probably get a .22 instead

Really torn on this. I want a mosin because I grew up playing the old Call of Duty games and loved them in that. On the other hand 200 just doesn't seem worth it for something that I won't get to shoot that often, isn't cheap to shoot and from when I did fire one, wasn't particularly pleasant to shoot.

>>33204213
Look harder in the secondary market. Had an online buddy who bought one in a buy, sell and trade thread for $179 plus shipping. There's also people selling them for $200 around in some online stores. Then you have advertising firearm stores that promote their products online. And don't worry about buying a spoterized Mosin that's only change was the stock (Its how another buddy of mine got a Lee Enfield for $80 bucks). You can get a replacement stock for her and some screws that are widely available online

>>33197737
i know how i sound

if you're buying a firearm that costs less than $1000 you are scum. plain and simple

>>33193207
That's cringey as shit.

>>33193099
>rimfire
el oh el

>>33204429
Lol

>>33204429

Nigga there's a plethora is perfectly good guns for under $1,000. You have your pick of every AR-15, AK, SKS, and so on at that range, all of which can be outstanding rifles.

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>>33204429
So my $500 cz with a $450 scope makes me scum ? Cool

>>33204985
>>33205033
>>33206052

poorfags trying to defend their shitty ass guns. lol

>>33206699
Ill defend my 40$ single shot .22. Its a piece of metal and wood. Successfully shoots pieces of metal out of it the end of it. Its a gun. Defense successful.
Im confused are you trying to make people upset? You've yet to make a point, im just perplexed.

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>>33193101
AR fag located

>>33193099>>33206052
Look like you live in a spec house strip neighborhoodand love Costco alfredo Tyson chicken

>>33207645
If you're going to be retarded at least do it in proper English you creole speaking fuckwit

>>33201338
uncrate them and lay them out and take a pic. it'd be like a family reunion.

>>33195943
>b barrel
We'll, checks out I got my d barrel for 350 I've been looking for a BBQ for awhile

>>33208906
B barrel, fucking phone

>>33193099

>no guns detected

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I just refinished mine today. It wasn't the greatest refinish as it was my first and I just use some of the cheap miniwax "tung oil" to keep it simple.

Lighting isn't great in the pic, but I'm happy with it in person and it's an improvement over the beat up and chipped shellac.

>>33193195
>He lets a weapon cause internal trauma and bleeding to his capillaries
You must like getting ass-fucked with a barbed wire dildo by some ugly bra wearing fuck named Randy.

>>33204429
>he thinks an arbitrary number makes someone scum

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>>33206845
>Using shitty stock images

>>33199415
I managed to find an excellent Polish m44 for 250 just over a year ago. Good deals are out there, you just have to keep an eye out.

>>33193224
You are weak if you need a rubber pad mate, thats all there is to it.

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>>33209373
>Using overpriced, over hyped, over engineered sticks of aluminum and plastic

>>33193101
>one of the worst triggers ever
thats up to the individual rifle. my Mosin trigger is fine
>bayonets often don't even fit
mine fits fine
>bayonets which do fit often have to be removed with a hammer
nope
>medicore accuracy at best
thats up to the individual rifle. watch>>33193100
>uses rimmed ammo
not an issue
>high bore axis
no higher than a Mauser or Enfield
>awkwardly short stock designed to fit peasants whose growth was stunted by multiple famines.
true. the LoP os not ideal
>wide front sight makes bars precision
i vastly prefer my Mosin sights over the sights on my Mausers
>safety cannot be disengaged when mounting the piece to the shoulder
true
>poorly shaped steel butt plate batters and bruises shoulders
no youre just a bitch
>barrels, which were not that good to begin with, are often rusted from decades of corrosive ammo.
not a design flaw. all nations that mattered in WWII used corrosive ammo

it seems like you never owned a Mosin Nagant in good shape

>>33209065
looks good dude, what kinda sling you got? I'm waiting for my mosin to get to my ffl and figure id pick up one for it.

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>>33204429
>if you're buying a firearm that costs less than $1000 you are scum. plain and simple

>$500

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>>33209730
$250

>>33195160
>looking like a guy who would watch you drop your wallet then pick it up and keep it

>>33209687
>>uses rimmed ammo
>not an issue

Actually it is in 95% of them, they all suffer from rimrock due to having the parts of dozens of other guns in them.

>>33197126
wartime QC was shit, illiterate conscripts probably didnt clean their rifles, and then they were re-arsenaled and refurbished by different illiterate conscripts

>>33209805
>Actually it is in 95% of them
you got a source on that ridiculous claim?

the only time i ever had rimlock is because i purposefully loaded the last round behind the 4th round to see what would happen

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It was cheap and I had fun with it soooo

>>33209909

I've had or gone through probably 20 or so mosins all but 2 had rimlock,

>the only time i ever had rimlock is because i purposefully loaded the last round behind the 4th round to see what would happen.

per the mosin design you should never have rimlock, it doesn't matter how you load the rims on a functioning rifle with a functioning interrupter (which holds the rim of the rounds in the magazine low enough so the rims never touch, so rimlock never should happen, you loading the last round behind the 4th and it locking up means yours is just as faulty as the rest.

>>33193070
Better than the Mauser

>>33209805
What?

>>33209994

Load all the rims behind each other and try to cycle the gun, see what happens.

>>33209946
>per the mosin design you should never have rimlock, it doesn't matter how you load the rims on a functioning rifle with a functioning interrupter (which holds the rim of the rounds in the magazine low enough so the rims never touch, so rimlock never should happen, you loading the last round behind the 4th and it locking up means yours is just as faulty as the rest.
i dont believe you have ever owned a mosin

Hey I've been wondering, does anyone have any screenshots of that one guy who apparently named his rifle or some shit and broke up a drug deal or some other bullshit then the rifle talked to him or something? I don't exactly remember everything but I remember that much.

>>33210068

your an idiot who doesn't know anything about how a is supposed to work

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?398305-How-the-interrupter-works-to-prevent-rim-lock-in-Mosins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH03ugoXdvE

https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535316

>>33209805
My hex mosin is 100% original parts, all serial number match. Even the bayonet!

>>33210107
http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=5700

>>33210115

No it isn't, it was forced matched after being assembled with parts from dozens of other rifles.

>>33209687
I own two mosins, and I love them. That being said, your level of denial is incredible.

>>33193070
ordered an arsenal refinished mosin for 305, did i fuck up or did i do alright?

where can I buy one

poorfag here

>>33210107
well if 99% or whatever YUGE percent of Mosins do not function like you say they should, maybe they arent supposed to function they way you think

>>33210184
classic firearms, gunbroker, armslist to name a few. Do some shopping around and find the best deal you're most comfortable making.

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>>33210126

>>33210214

So you have a unrefurbished rifle in all original condition?

>>33210191

> now says mosins are supposed to get rimlock

GG

>>33210228
stock is refurbished
all numbers match

>>33210255

All the numbers were re stamped matching, after ww2 were broken down into invidivual components and mix and matched to make functioning rifles, it's not original at all.

http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/terms_for_matching/index.html

>>33210141
oh, please tell me more about my rifle that you have never held

>>33210236
this is what schizophrenia looks like

>>33210274
Ah
Well I suppose I'm wrong. I didn't know that, I'm actually fairly new to mosins

>>33199054
Between the Ruger and the Axis, which would you recommend for a decent entry-level bolt rifle? Or would you recommend a different option?

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I bought an M44 at an estate sale and they gave me a (see pic related) along with the rifle. What is it?

>>33209687
>>poorly shaped steel butt plate batters and bruises shoulders
>no youre just a bitch

This and so much this, whoever complains about nugget recoil either cannot learn to properly shoulder a rifle (I'm a pretty big guy myself, and even despite the stock being shorter-than-optimal/dwarf size, I can still get pretty comfy with it), or is a weak manlet skeleton bitch (dyel?), no excuses (even women and teenagers shrug off the fun kick).

>>33209690

Late reply but its just a plain dog collar mosin sling.

I'd suggest actually getting one to use as an arm brace while shooting.

Makes it more comfortable to shoot with the weight being divided between your shoulder and bicep and easier to keep steady.

>>33210060
They all feed just fine...?

>>33197840
It still works after 90 years. Quality is fine.

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>>33193070

All these poors in this thread. Nuggets are shit. But keep justifying your purchases on the internet. You even responding to these threads confirms your thin-skinned defense not of the weapon, but of your financial destitution. You should have worked harder and made something of yourselves. But instead you bought a nugget. Pathetic. Those of means might buy a nugget, but only ironically. So his other, superior weapons may laugh.

>>33210739
Not that anon, but no they won't.

If you load 5 rounds into a Mosin without staggering the rounds so no rim of the casing is behind the lower round it'll cause rimlock.

You'll try and work the action, but the bolt will stop because the top rounds rim is stuck behind the lower rounds rim.

It's especially annoying if you're using cheapshit chink stripper clips that let the rounds wiggle

>>33210873
How's it feel paying $2000 for a rifle not even as effective as my $300 rifle?

>>33210656
wheres the best place to pick one up? also trying to imagine using the sling as a brace and i can't picture it.

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>>33210873
Ok chief.

>350$ USD for an M44 in Canada

JDIMSA

>>33211714
Where

>>33211730

CGN Forums. I just want a carbine length Mosin but I don't want to pay double the price.

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>>33211170
https://www.amazon.com/Flagaway-Mosin-Nagant-Sling/dp/B0030C67PM

Hey I think mosins are fine they are not the best but are decent rifles cheap ugly but works fine like hi points

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>>33193099
>rimfire

>>33211791
thanks senpai, also being new to mosins is there anything i should know before handling this beast?

My mosin is a finn, fuck off

>>33210496
looks like a can opener

Would I be retarded to buy a "good condition" arsenal refinished Mosin on the internet?
Will I get garbage?

>>33211918
I was thinking that it was something the deceased had made to help him push cartridges down into the magazine.

>>33211972
also wondering this

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>>33212089
Lay the fuck off my Nuggets.

>>33212115
well i bought one while drunk and want to know what im in for so blow me.

>>33212143
I'll blow you but only because I'm a faggot, not because you told me to.

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>>33212164
im a faggot too so i guess this works out rather nicely.

>>33212143
It's pretty hard to break one of these things
if it arrives packed in cosmoline then it's nearly certain some old commie armorer looked it over before it was stored and declared it good enough to fight capitalists with

>>33193070
>going for $329.99
>thinking these guns are still for poorfags.

>>33212194
fucking forgot about cosmoline, whats the best way to go about cleaning it off?

>>33212228
heat lamps > the sun > oven > paper towels > shouting блядь at it > making cosmoline soup > ignoring it and hoping it's fine > urine

>>33212253
what about a blow dryer since i don't own a heat lap, theres fucking snow outside, and fuck if im making my entire kitchen smell like cosmo.

>>33212228
Heat it off the wood.
Hit the metal with a good solvent like brake cleaner or simple green and wipe it down.

>>33212228
Wipe as much off the exterior as possible with mineral spirits, then shoot the rest out.

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>>33211808
>Cheap
Uhhhh.....

>>33212286
It's not on the list things I've seen /k/ use do you'd be in virgin territory. If I had to guess it's probably still better than paper towels.

>>33212286
>>33212361
i did it, it's fine
keep the bursts short, or you'll bubble the shellac. It works fine if you use common sense.

I just bought a mosin saturday. Very faint tula post 28 arrow inside the star with CH marking on it. IIRC CH or CN is marksman. Anyways. Front sight is missing, barrel wasn't free floated (fixed that), and several blemishes in the stock needed sanding.

What wood stain do I buy as well as grease/oil. Maintainance tips? And where do I buy a front sight post?

>>33193101
>Over a century old rifle isn't perfect!
>People will defend this!
okay

>>33193099
digits confirm retardation

>>33193101
In response to the steel stock plate and its shortness. The rifle was built like that because of the russian winter coats being so thick that a regular stock would be awkward to handle.

>>33193070
it was reasonably modern when it was first adopted, and for about 35 years afterwards.